Re: Getting into ISPF/Edit from TSO

2014-04-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 16:31:19 -0400, Micheal Butz wrote: Running a Rexx exec from the READY prompt and creating a dataset would anyone know how to display it in ISPF/Edit Start ISPF with address TSO ..., giving it an initial command to perform the EDIT. Details left as a reading exercise for the

Re: FREE DDNAME with concatenated datasets?

2014-04-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 16:25:10 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: As far as I know, gil, that's the way that FREEing a concatenation has always worked. It truly frees the first one, but merely deconcatenates the others. So, yes, I believe you'll need to remember them if you want to be able to truly free

Re: FREE DDNAME with concatenated datasets?

2014-04-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MACLIB //DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MODGEN ... without assigning a specific DDNAME to SYS1.MODGEN; equivalent to what my Rexx sample(s) do. From: Paul Gilmartin Date: 04/02/2014 02:50 PM Subject:Re: FREE DDNAME with concatenated datasets? Sent by:IBM

Re: FREE DDNAME with concatenated datasets?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:34:01 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: I don't see that you dump the S99MSG. stem or check RESULT - the perm concat seems to be failing. Do you not believe that msg(2) suffices? I tested before I posted with error injection, and the allocation messages appeared on my

Re: Software (compiler) PTF or maintenance level

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:19:05 -0700, Jon Perryman wrote: ... z/OS updates are at the module level rather than product level. Depending on which product, as you have acknowledged in another forum. From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net on

Re: FREE DDNAME with concatenated datasets?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:34:01 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: I don't see that you dump the S99MSG. stem or check RESULT - the perm concat seems to be failing. OK. I stand corrected. PERMC appeared in z/OS 2.1; we have only 1.13. But that's reported in RESULT, which I failed to check; allocation

Re: Redirecting stdout to a data set?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 15:36:48 -0500, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Phil Smith wrote: Thank you John! Armed with that knowledge, this worked a treat: //SYSPRINT DD DISP=SHR,DSN=PHS.PDS.DATA(STDOUT) ...where that PDS is VB 1024 (but presumably doesn't need to be that

Re: Redirecting stdout to a data set?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 22:45:52 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: IIRC, there is not only the standard assignment of stdin == DD:SYSIN stdout == DD:SYSPRINT stderr == DD:CEEMSGS Long ago, when I was a novice to MVS, and in a different language, my mentor impelled such choices, at least the first two.

Re: Executing a remote TSO command or CLIST with FTP?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:03:24 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: Just confirming what I RTFM: there is no way for an FTP client to directly execute a TSO command on a remote z/OS system - is that right? Is there some clever hack that I am missing? This would be real useful, no? The ability - in this

Re: Redirecting stdout to a data set?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 23:05:28 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: But: we still have the problem, that the trace output from PL/1-PUT and C printf are not in sync ... that is: due to different buffering in the PL/1 and C RTL, the trace output does not appear in the correct time order. Don't know about

Re: Executing a remote TSO command or CLIST with FTP?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-04-03 15:16, Scott Ford wrote: Charles: FTP exit ? Just a guess … That's getting perilously close to RYO. At a minimum it requires that you have control over configuration of the remote system to install such an exit. Lately, z/OS FTP has support for named pipes. Again, this

Re: need pub to help me with a REXX exec

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 15:58:59 -0700, John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu wrote: Can someone point me to a pub that explains how to debug and/or trace a REXX exec? TRACE z/OS TSO/E REXX Reference SA32-0972-00

Re: Redirecting stdout to a data set?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 19:00:00 -0400, zMan wrote: Just curious: why not just put granular timestamps on the messages? Wouldn't that have been simpler? Perhaps. Depends on how many places messages are issued. If they all funnel through a single formatting routine, easy. BTW, I understand that

Re: Redirecting stdout to a data set?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 19:03:29 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: Older versions of ISPF edit required VB 251 or less. JES2 maximum printable characters on a line is 240. I don't believe that. Must I try it? Almost no one uses lines longer than 132 characters. FSVO 132 VBA 133 should work unless you

Re: Redirecting stdout to a data set?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 19:03:29 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: Older versions of ISPF edit required VB 251 or less. JES2 maximum printable characters on a line is 240. Nope. An SDSF display: SDSF OUTPUT DISPLAY userGENR JOB07738 DSID 103 LINE 0 COLUMNS 421- 552

Re: Executing a remote TSO command or CLIST with FTP?

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 08:23:50 +0300, Itschak Mugzach wrote: Have a look at zen ftp control from william data systems that among othrr things allow remote execution. It used ftp exit. In my view, using an FTP exit is hardly different from coding your own TCP/IP server, except: o it uses the

Re: AW: Re: ISPF dynamically allocating dataset with DISP=OLD?

2014-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 12:40:50 +, Chase, John wrote: Don't blame ISPF. The critical thing is DISP=OLD allocation occurring after a DISP=SHR. Right; that part we understand. We've also learned from our scheduler vendor that it attempts to obtain exclusive control of the library MEMBER,

Logical Choices (was: ISPF dynamically allocating dataset with DISP=OLD?)

2014-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-04-04, at 08:52, Chase, John wrote: Just curious: Does it use the ISPF-style ENQ? We didn't get that level of detail in the vendor's reply, but that would seem to be the most logical choice. So you're saying they didn't do it that way? In the past, we needed a protocol for

Re: FREE DDNAME with concatenated datasets?

2014-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 19:01:22 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: Do you really want this? Not attempting to be correct syntax: Allocate dd(ddn1) dataset(dataset1) Allocate dd(ddn2) dataset(dataset2) Allocate dd(ddn3) dataset(dataset3) Concat ddlist(ddn1,ddn2) Concat ddlist(ddn2,ddn3) Free dd(ddn1) If

Re: Logical Choices (was: ISPF dynamically allocating dataset with DISP=OLD?)

2014-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 20:11:59 +, Chase, John wrote: Update from the vendor: The scheduler DOES NOT attempt to acquire exclusive allocation of a JCL member; it only needs READ access to the JCL library. So, the entire incident is now explained by the errant user somehow obtaining an

Re: OT: How would you like _this_ as your z/OS has hard waited message?

2014-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 07:03:25 -0500, John McKown wrote: The Linux developers are considering using QR codes to encode Kernel OOPS (hard wait) information. Snap a picture of it on the old cell phone, then decode it. It could encode a URL and debug data so that the user could open a bug report using

Re: Logical Choices (was: ISPF dynamically allocating dataset with DISP=OLD?)

2014-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 09:53:03 -0500, John McKown wrote: Hum, I don't see the need to downgrade. From what I understand, when a user does an ISPF editor SAVE command, ISPF does: ENQ SPFEDIT dsn OLD write out to PDS STOW to update the PDS directory DEQ SPFEDIT dsn That is, ISPF does not have a SHR

Re: Logical Choices (was: ISPF dynamically allocating dataset with DISP=OLD?)

2014-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 17:41:42 +, Bob Shannon wrote: Why is it that SYS1.NUCLEUS can't be a PDSE? SYS1.LINKLIB? SYS1.LPALIB, SYS1.PARMLIB? Could it be the short sighted and inadequate implementation? Common Clark. You should already know that NIP is too early in the IPL process to use PDSEs.

Re: Logical Choices (was: ISPF dynamically allocating dataset with DISP=OLD?)

2014-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 10:54:55 -0500, John McKown wrote: Soon, it may be time for a(nother) rant about the difficulty of LMCOPY from a UNIX file to a PDS member. The best I can do is first copy it to a temp DS (or SYSCALL readfile, then LMPUT in a loop). IBM should enhance the UNIX cp command

Re: 3270 .csv spreadsheet

2014-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 19:28:17 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote: Maybe we can fill in the blanks. I just guessed and don't know about cost or cost per seat. Should be able to cut and past into Excel. Or not. Some troublemaker Mail Agent converted this to format=flowed and failed to reflect this in the

Re: 3270 .csv spreadsheet

2014-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 19:28:17 -0400, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: Maybe we can fill in the blanks. I just guessed and don't know about cost or cost per seat. Should be able to cut and past into Excel. Or not. Some troublemaker Mail Agent converted this to format=flowed and failed to

Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

2014-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:29:52 -0500, John McKown wrote: OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming by using Basic on something like an Apple ][? https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/ Heck. A lustrum earlier than the Apple ][. -- gil

USERIDALIASTABLE

2014-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(cross-posting: MVS-OE and IBM-MAIN) We have a problem with secure NFS. Apparently some product requires an exact match, not only of UIDs, but of user names. The comparison is case-sensitive. The standard (convention?) among our open-systems people is user IDs are minuscule. z/OS, on the other

Re: Logical Choices (was: ISPF dynamically allocating dataset with DISP=OLD?)

2014-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 10:11:46 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: Why do YOU need PDSE support at IPL time? As far as I know, it makes no sense to _require_ that PDSE support be available at IPL time. If you have a business case, or a requirement for your code, please state it. I suspect the

Re: Accessing DASD areas that have no DSCB (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:06:22 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: ... most installations (including us) use program protection to restrict users of these utilities. Protecting AMASPZAP and ADRDSSU is, in my opinion, not a good way to protect data from them. Agreed. Protect

Re: Logical Choices (was: ISPF dynamically allocating dataset with DISP=OLD?)

2014-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:26:24 -0500, John McKown wrote: What I, personally, think would be neat would be some sort of R/O page data set. It would be something like the LPA. It would be created and updated to basically contain the z/OS nucleus. NIP would simply allocate the fixed real memory for

Re: Accessing DASD areas that have no DSCB (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:52:07 -0500, John McKown wrote: I don't mind _anybody_ using a program _which they know how to use_. ADRDSSU is generally not one of those. Unfortunately, around here, I sometimes wonder about the COBOL compiler too. Be careful. That view can too easily lead to elitist

IEBGENER PARM='SDB=?????'

2014-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
What value of IEBGENER PARM='SDB=?' is intended to allow SDB to operate and select an optimum BLKSIZE for SYSUT2 regardless of the BLKSIZE of SYSUT1? I have tried all five documented values (YES, NO, LARGE, SMALL, and INPUT), and each case SYSUT2 was created copying BLKSIZE from SYSUT1.

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 and RDz v9.x

2014-04-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:24:05 +, Chase, John wrote: Hi All, I learned via PMR that Rational Developer for System z (RDz) v9.x (latest greatest) does not officially support Enterprise COBOL v5.1. The workaround suggested by RDz Support was to specify COBOL v4.2 and XMLPARSE(XMLSS) in the

Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3

2014-04-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:24:26 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:46:44 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 4/11/2014 1:11 PM, George, William wrote: I received an off list email from Attachmate who stated that after speaking with their support group , Extra doesn't have the ability to

Re: Accessing DASD areas that have no DSCB (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-04-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 14:27:28 +, Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC (US) wrote: When a dataset is deleted, it is scratched and its DSCB in the VTOC is freed. Hence, as far as I know, the dataset's data can only be accessed in one of two ways: Pedantry: have no DSCB? Is there not in fact a DSCB

Re: Accessing DASD areas that have no DSCB (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-04-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:33:39 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: If you deleted a dataset, and the three ways to destroy the data have not occurred, then you use Absolute Track allocation to re-allocate those tracks and read them. The DCB must match, along with directory entries. FSVO match. Nearly

Re: Sorting CSV data that begins with an IP address

2014-04-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:26:17 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: InN order to make it sortable lexicographically just one operation is required: any and all short, less that three-digit, byte values need to be padded out on the left to three digits with zeros. Be quite careful doing that. I once did

Forget: Sorting CSV data that begins with an IP address

2014-04-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:47:47 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh would like to recall the message, Sorting CSV data that begins with an IP address. Paul Gilmartin would like to forget the message, Sorting CSV data that begins with an IP address. -- gil

Re: Sorting CSV data that begins with an IP address

2014-04-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:16:30 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: TSO Rexx does not support multiple tasks executing simultaneously. The ATTACH* functions do attach a new task, but your attaching Rexx waits synchronously for the attached task to complete. I know! Dammit; that sucks! The

Rexx Concurrency (was: Sorting CSV data ...)

2014-04-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:58:10 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: I'm looping some 5000 times in REXX and doing functions (NetView ping, SNMP walk, etc) sequentially. They don't necessarily need to be sequential. I'm just going through a list of printers and I want to test them. So.. Is it

Re: Sorting CSV data that begins with an IP address

2014-04-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:41:12 -0500, Norbert Friemel wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 19:26:17 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: Ok.. Is it possible to fire off other REXXes repetitively (let's say 2 or 3, each doing one function) that will not RETURN to the main, but write their output to a

SORT ando MEMLIMIT best practice

2014-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-04-18, at 03:48, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2014-04-18 01:25, Ed Jaffe pisze: On 4/4/2014 12:47 PM, R.S. wrote: If you specify absolutely nothing about MEMLIMIT anywhere, the system-provided default is 2G so obviously you can't go wrong with that in SMFPRMxx. Right. IBM's provided

Re: SORT ando MEMLIMIT best practice

2014-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 17:54:01 +, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net wrote: ...  Giving a gazillion bytes above the bar to process X does not necessarily mean that process X will ruin system performance.  The gazillion bytes could also have come from below the bar (for some values of

OORexx (was: Sorting CSV data ...)

2014-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 19:20:14 -0400, Scott Ford wrote: Have you looked at Open Object RExx, it has a socket server piece, contact me offline... Much of the value of Rexx is in the host command environments it supports. So, how many of the following are available in OORexx?: address TSO

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 and RDz v9.x

2014-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 21:44:44 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: On 19 Apr 2014 08:00:49 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: No, IBM is not an ISV, as hopefully you know, Mr. Morris. Lately, I seem to have been casting myself in the role of a defender of IBM. That is not my wont, and IBM can

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 and RDz v9.x

2014-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:58:13 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: I do not find Clark Morris's response persuasive. It is not even a 'responsive' one, as lawyers use that term. He used Edward Jaffe's formulation of what constitutes responsible ISV behavior to suggest rhetorically that IBM was not

Re: SORT ando MEMLIMIT best practice

2014-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 07:01:50 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:07:29 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Are there separate pools of real storage for above the bar and below the bar? Pools? No. Pools are a software concept. Real storage with real addresses 2 GiB are below the bar

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 and RDz v9.x

2014-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:09:37 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 4/21/2014 7:59 AM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: DB2 required greater flexibility and control to achieve its performance and data consistency goals than was possible with VSAM keyed-access support. A very cursory look at Experiences Installing

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 and RDz v9.x

2014-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:52:01 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: The German Telefunken mainframe TR440's operating system BS3 also had keyed file access services (different types) and a common run time environment Like LE is supposed to be? for all languages (ALGOL, FORTRAN, PASCAL, PL/1, COBOL, BCPL,

Re: FREE DDNAME with concatenated datasets?

2014-04-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 11:43:28 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: : :OK. I stand corrected. PERMC appeared in z/OS 2.1; we have only 1.13. :But that's reported in RESULT, which I failed to check; allocation messages :go to the terminal; S99MSG is never set. I guess you will need to wait for 2.1. If not

SYSIN Attributes

2014-04-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In z/OS 2.1, the list of parameters: Relationship to other parameters z/OS MVS JCL Reference SA23-1385-00 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieab600/iea3b6_Relationship_to_other_parameters.htm ... compatible with DD */DD DATA (newly) includes

Re: IBM Development Clueless about COBOL DEV activities

2014-04-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 19:32:24 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: Paul Peplinski guesses: Which utility? http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/migration Yes, that was Dana Mitchell's guess, too. However, in this same discussion thread, IBM's Ken Hume -- thank you, Ken -- reported that the IBM

Re: Rexx Concurrency (was: Sorting CSV data ...)

2014-04-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 14:26:51 -0700, Jon Perryman wrote: Submitting JCL is the best solution but submitting 1000 jobs to be a bit much.Submitting 3 or 4 is more reasonable but you will need to use a queue to pull the next IP address. For the queue, you could install / use the REXX interface to

Re: API to determine the memory object that a particular 64 bit address belongs to?

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:50:32 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: I assumed that such an API, which is given the 64 bit address and returns memory object information, must exist. But I cannot find it. Am I too hopeful? What's a memory object? I believe GEMAIN allows obtaining a large block of memory;

Re: API to determine the memory object that a particular 64 bit address belongs to?

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:10:30 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: quote 6.0 IARV64 -- 64-bit virtual storage allocation ... The area above the bar is intended to be used for data only, not for executing programs. ... /quote I had thought that restriction was gradually being relaxed. First, RMODE 64 can

Pages used by PDSE members?

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Just curious. Of course the structure of a PDS is such that the only way to tell how much DASD space is used by a PDS member is to read the member and count blocks/records/bytes. But a PDSE is some sort of (undocumented) indexed structure (B-tree?) So, it ought to be able to determine from the

OMVS password security exposure?

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
OK. From an x3270 OMVS session, I do: user@HOST: ssh UNIX_USER@UNIX_HOST + ssh UNIX_USER@UNIX_HOST FOTS1252 The SSH client cannot be run under OMVS. user@HOST: Well, yeah. This is a well-known deficiency for no good reason, probably, except that IBM is too stubborn to fix it. But then, I try:

Re: Pages used by PDSE members?

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-04-30 11:39, Chase, John wrote: Does the DESERV macro not provide access to most of that information? http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r13/topic/com.ibm.zos.r13.idad500/d5032.htm#d5032 Thanks. There, I read: DESERV returns directory information in system managed

Re: Pages used by PDSE members?

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-04-30 16:52, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 4/30/2014 3:49 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: ... where do I find a map or description of this SMDE format? Macro IGWSMDE in SYS1.MACLIB. Of course! When all attempts to find documentation fail, read the source code! Actually, that's reasonable

Re: Dynamic TSO Submit Exit

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-04-30 18:18, Scott Ford wrote: Dean: It might help us to know some more about what you want to do with it ? Indeed. Presumably Dean wants either to make submit more general or to make it more restrictive. In either case, a TSO submit exit will not affect jobs submitted: o via FTP;

Re: non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape.

2014-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 2 May 2014 07:48:29 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: On Fri, 2 May 2014 06:38:25 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: John McKown wrote: http://www.itworld.com/storage/416783/sony-develops-tape-tech-could-lead-185-tb-cartridges I quickly looked at Sony's LTO tape drives (PetaSite) which uses

Re: Do not FTP DFDSS dump files without tersing them first

2014-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 2 May 2014 18:37:13 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: To those who have advocated sending DFDSS dumps in FTP with block mode and EBCDIC, it works great, except when it doesn't. Got an I/O error today during a restore. DFDSS level 2 said to terse it first, and viola! It worked. So I'm done with

Re: Do not FTP DFDSS dump files without tersing them first

2014-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 2 May 2014 20:48:49 -0500, John McKown wrote: I agree that is the best. I have, so far, been successful simply by using the STRU R command. That is not a SITE option, but a z/OS ftp server command. But it's easy to break STRU R. -- gil

Re: Do not FTP DFDSS dump files without tersing them first

2014-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 3 May 2014 05:45:23 -0500, Barry Merrill wrote: We have lots of users sending SMF and similar data via ftp, and whether the file is tersed or not, the problem we encounter is that about half of the sites have to specify QUOTE PASV to successfully send their data, while the other half

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-05-02, at 12:04, Jousma, David wrote: As for your question, my suggestion is to instead of using IEBUPDTE statements, is to copy the entire source program, and make a SMPE usermod out of it with your changes added to it(sufficiently documented, of course). We already do this

Re: IEBUPDTE alternatives

2014-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 4 May 2014 09:10:57 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: If an ISV, i.e., not IBM, did this, there would be calls to change vendors. IBM should be treated equally and their feet should be held to the fire. Of course, there may be an unintended consequence of OCO. Yet I hear no calls to change

Re: Do not FTP DFDSS dump files without tersing them first

2014-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 2 May 2014 20:48:49 -0500, John McKown wrote: I agree that [TERSE] is the best. I have, so far, been successful simply by using the STRU R command. That is not a SITE option, but a z/OS ftp server command. And see: https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1PI05936

Re: REXX EDIT of Source Code

2014-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 6 May 2014 13:14:50 -0500, Jon Butler wrote: I have a problem where I need to Edit/view source code to vet it for compliance to corporate standards. It may be COBOL, PL/I, etc. I have the following in one Exec ADDRESS ISPEXEC VIEW DATASET ('my_pdse_member') MACRO(my_macro) and in

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 May 2014 08:25:47 -0400, Mark Pace wrote: Has anyone successfully sent data to a Linux FTP server using TLS security from the z/OS FTP client? Is SFTP an option? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 May 2014 10:47:49 -0400, John Eells wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/8/649/ENUSA13-0568/index.htmllang=enrequest_locale=null A Long Time Ago in a Data Center Far, Far Away (well, OK, just down the road from Poughkeepsie in East Fishkill), we

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 May 2014 11:06:32 -0400, Mark Pace wrote: First - thank you for the manual number so that I can look these up. I've no idea what AT-TLS environment means. By rote memorization: Application Transparent Transport Layer Security. Transparent would seem to imply that the Application (in

Re: Use SORT to manipulate a CSV?

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 May 2014 12:28:25 -0400, Bill Ashton wrote: ... The file is a VB file with LRECL=0 and BLKSIZE=4096. ... ??? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Automated JES Spool FTP

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 May 2014 14:55:22 -0500, John McKown wrote: That's an interesting idea. I wonder how you would specify the ftp server, userid, password, and remote file name (with path) to such a WRITER. But, from what I read, the OP want something out of the box from IBM integrated into JES itself.

Re: Automated JES Spool FTP

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 May 2014 21:52:14 -0700, Jon Perryman wrote: Rather than using FTP, I would suggest using NFS or SAMBA (client or server) on z/OS. Both are free on z/OS. Client is easy to setup and you probably have an existing NFS server that is already mapped to the systems wanting access to the

Re: Another C compiler shift bug?

2014-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 8 May 2014 15:16:26 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: Am I missing something here? Consider the following C statement: unsigned long long maxBit = 0x1 (arraySize-3); When arraySize is 66, maxBit is ending up as zero (instead of what I would expect, X'8000'. Am I missing

Re: Another C compiler shift bug?

2014-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 8 May 2014 15:35:39 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: Hmmm. Well, I beat the compiler into submission ... beat? Actually I believe you lulled it into submission. ... SLDL r2,0(r1) LR r0,r3 LR r1,r2 ST r1,maxBit(,r13,248)

Re: Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 9 May 2014 15:25:18 +, Staller, Allan wrote: SUPERC (ISRUPC) will do fine. For the compare. It will easily identify any member mis-matches as well as missing members. It won't be very good at telling you what the differences are. Faced with such a problem once, we compared as

Re: Is it possible to have ADRDSSU dump/copy output files directly onto z/OS USS files ?

2014-05-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
directly to tape. And the output could be a POSIX pipe which coud be fed directly to SSL to a remote site; no large local storage required. Imagine the value of //SYSUT2 DD SUBSYS=AWSTAPE for data interchange! 131$ cat hfsarch // //HOBBITJOB 505303JOB,'Paul Gilmartin', // MSGLEVEL=(1,1),REGION

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 10 May 2014 14:01:56 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: Emphasis does, however, need to be placed on the pronoun 'someone'. If this code had been available not just to someone but to all of us, quite rapid progress might well have been made with a problem perceived to be important to the

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 10 May 2014 15:03:11 -0500, John McKown wrote: Go Debian! It installs from source. Thereby validating it. VM (used to be?) that way. On Sat, 10 May 2014 22:38:01 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: I had a few occurrences of looking at code that way. After looking at a IFCEREP1 module I found a

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 11 May 2014 00:57:05 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: On 10 May 2014 15:58, Ed Jaffe wrote: FWIW, I don't think the source code for Program Products like ADRDSSU was available even in the pre-OCO days. Some IBM Program Products had source code available from the earliest days. For example,

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 11 May 2014 15:11:30 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: If escrow agreements are yet another area where the law and expensive lawyers can't be relied on to produce the best common sense outcome, then perhaps the more apt quote in this context would be the law is an ass. Kenneth Arrow

Re: Good News: Introducing Mobile Workload Pricing (MWP) for z/OS

2014-05-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 May 2014 06:42:13 -0500, Scott Chapman wrote: ... The tool itself is delivered as a self-extracting zip, which produces a .bin file that you upload to the mainframe where it's executed. ... Wouldn't a .xmit be simpler; fewer steps? How does the mainframe execute a .bin? BTW, on

Re: Good News: Introducing Mobile Workload Pricing (MWP) for z/OS

2014-05-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 May 2014 10:51:13 -0500, Dana Mitchell wrote: Once uploaded binary to z/OS, the .bin file contains JCL to run the SCRTTOOL. The object code consists of inline 80 byte ESD and TXT records passed via SYSLIN to LOADER (along with some other paramter files). For ease of

Re: Good News: Introducing Mobile Workload Pricing (MWP) for z/OS

2014-05-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-05-12 14:24, R.S. wrote: o The jar command can (probably) be used to extract the .zip, removing the requirement for a desktop system. o Extracting on z/OS provides verification over more of the transfer path, largely detecting problems caused by EBCDIC, code page, and

Re: Good News: Introducing Mobile Workload Pricing (MWP) for z/OS

2014-05-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 13 May 2014 07:57:04 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 11:32:20 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: o .bin is customarily reserved for DOS executables, which confused me. It is? MS-DOS won't run a .bin file, AFAIK. Are you confusing it with .exe? I stand corrected. If I were

Re: Where are the allocation messages of a USS process?

2014-05-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 13 May 2014 10:38:41 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: often the answer is nowhere. See this for a solution: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.bpxb200%2Fjobpro.htm Hmmm: o NONE specifies that job log messages are not to be written. This is the

Re: Another C compiler shift bug?

2014-05-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:47:39 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: On 8 May 2014 19:34, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: ST doesn't accept a 3-modifier expression, that is an artifact of the XL C/C++ assembler listing format. This is really really annoying, and has been for years. The compiler is now quite

Re: Where are the allocation messages of a USS process?

2014-05-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 13 May 2014 14:58:01 -0700, Jon Perryman wrote: As Tony said, they are all WTO messages. JES decides where it wants to put the message (or not do anything with it). I suspect that some WTO messages are never written in USS as opposed to not being captured. I suspect that IBM disabled

Re: Buying desktop software from IBM

2014-05-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 13 May 2014 15:50:02 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: This list is fascinating both for inclusions and for omissions. I will defer humbly to Radoslaw for opinion on 'Eastern European English', but I lived five years in West Africa. While Nigeria and Ghana, for example, sound pretty similar,

Re: supervisor state vs. problem state

2014-05-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 May 2014 07:28:51 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 5/14/2014 7:23 AM, Klein, Kenneth E wrote: What is the general opinion out there on what portion of CPU cycles should be spent in supervisor state? Is more than 50% a bad thing? I can't imagine 50% is either good or bad. It is what it

Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 15 May 2014 11:30:19 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: Clarification on REWORK. Besides documenting the APPLY date (which SMPE shows anyway), it obviates the need to first RESTORE/REJECT the usermod before re-RECEIVE/APPLY, a hassle I don't see the point of for a usermod whose sysmod structure

Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 15 May 2014 14:40:11 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: I have observed that merely deleting from the SMPPTS and re-RECEIVEing leaves tramp entries in the GLOBAL zone. I'm not surprised. Do it correctly. I wouldn't be surprised if Kurt Q. knows how to clean it up correctly without using

Re: SSH connectivity with OMVS

2014-05-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-05-20, at 06:37, Staller, Allan wrote: snip We are using z/OS 1.13 system and now customer requirement is to connect to OMVS using SSH. Do I need to install IBM porting toolkit to make this ssh connection work or any other way to solve this connectivity issue. /snip

Re: DFSORT SVC

2014-05-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 20 May 2014 08:21:05 -0500, Juergen Kehr wrote: we are using SYNCSORT as primary sort application, but although DFSORT in connection with DB2. Now we plan to install the DFSORT SVC in parallel. SYNCSORT uses SVC 109 routing code 17 (IGX00017). For DFSORT we would like to use SVC 109

Re: Friday Puzzler

2014-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 23 May 2014 16:25:10 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: Check the JCL reference manual under DD DISP parameter. If you have an OLD permanent dataset that was PASSed to the step, the normal disposition is DELETE if the dataset was originally new. FSVO permanent. I hate JCL! -- gil

Re: Special characters for Passwords

2014-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 23 May 2014 23:19:10 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: Since organizations have started requiring special characters in passwords, I have been wondering which special characters are stable across code pages. I know the US dollar sign in EBCDIC is not becoming the pound sterling sign in Britain

Re: Special characters for Passwords

2014-05-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 24 May 2014 16:08:14 -0400, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: (Charles Mills) writes: 1. There is a fallacy that I see a lot, particularly in public policy, that goes something like this: Security is a big problem. It won't help, but we have to DO SOMETHING about security, so let's have the

Re: Special characters for Passwords

2014-05-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 24 May 2014 15:18:04 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: ... They used an egg-shaped device (sorry, I don't recall the brand) that generated a time-sensitive password string. It was poorly designed (i.e., cheap) with an LCD display that was hard to read (my cats don't read over my

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