Re: SMS processing setup for secondary extents

2012-06-25 Thread Ron Hawkins
Or use IEBDG... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] SMS processing setup for secondary extents On 06/21/2012

Re: RES: Sad News About Rick Fochtman

2012-07-02 Thread Ron Hawkins
Sad news indeed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] RES: Sad News About Rick Fochtman Please, send

Re: Converting to SMS for the first time

2012-07-05 Thread Ron Hawkins
, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Ron Hawkins wrote: I would urge you to consider vertical pooling rather than horizontal pooling. ... My key point is to go horizontal, and avoid vertical pooling. Vertical against horizontal? Perhaps I missed something

Re: Converting to SMS for the first time

2012-07-06 Thread Ron Hawkins
:56 PM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Rob, I have seen the small and large dataset concept discussed since the early days of DFSMS. To tell the truth I have never seen the benefit of doing this. It has been suggested that it helps reduce allocation failures

Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

2012-07-30 Thread Ron Hawkins
Fair dinkum mate? I thought you were comin' the raw prawn with me. We could blow the froth off a few and jaw wag about that for ages. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:11 AM

Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
Radoslaw, Infrequent but not illogical. I've used it for datasets that are only opened and written to on a weekly or monthly basis. The secondary extents are allocated and used when anything is written. You will also find empty datasets with space released to zero tracks. This is one of the

Re: TSO LOGON Reconnect confirmation.

2012-08-29 Thread Ron Hawkins
With TN3270 reconnect works fine, and so far always for at least half a decade. I rely on it to switch from my laptop to my desktop and back. Yes there is the proviso of the same screen size. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: WLM Resource Group not working.

2012-08-29 Thread Ron Hawkins
Kees, I've just done some trial and error setup for a service unit based resource group. This one is running about 300 jobs at once. We've noticed the behavior when submitting all these jobs after some inactivity is the work in the resource group will run unconstrained for a few minutes, and

Re: DFDSS

2012-09-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
VOLCOUNT - http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2U2B1/2.3.13.6 .52?SHELF=dgt2bkb1DT=20120113165441CASE= I'm not aware of a restriction for ZFS files. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: UNABLE TO DO A FULL VOLUME RESTORE - DFDSS

2012-09-10 Thread Ron Hawkins
John, Mate, when you restore a volume with COPYVOLID, and there is a volume online with the same volser, the restored volume will be taken offline as described elsewhere in this thread. Just like when you try to vary a duplicate volser online, the original volume is unaffected by the restore,

Re: UTILITY TO READ SMF RECORDS

2012-09-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
John, You can read the SMF files on one LPAR through FTP on another where you have SAS and MXG installed. You can do this using the FTP keyword in the FILENAME statement. On Windows the syntax for a concatenation is: FILENAME SMF FTP(

Re: DASD and Cache Fast Write DS8800/DS8700

2012-11-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ken, I believe that DFW cannot be turned off on 2105 and 2107 emulation. CFW can still be set inactive, but the recommendation for HDS is to leave it turned on. CFW reduces cache usage significantly as there is only one copy of the write, and the CFW queues are treated differently to DFW. There

Re: multi-volume SMS file allocation

2012-11-06 Thread Ron Hawkins
Jean Louis, Use a guaranteed space storage class, and specify a unit count in the JCL - e.g. UNIT=(,5). Specify a VOLSER list if you want the chunks in a particular volume order. This will allocate the primary extent requested on each of five volumes. When you write to it sequentially the five

Re: multi-volume SMS file allocation

2012-11-07 Thread Ron Hawkins
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of DEBERT Jean-Louis Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 1:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] multi-volume SMS file allocation Ron Hawkins wrote: Use a guaranteed space storage class

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-07 Thread Ron Hawkins
Workload Manager is your friend. Cram on this before attempting anything else. It is your primary tool to accomplish your objectives, but you need to understand how the tool works. If you don't know which end of the hammer to hold you'll never drive in the nail. If you don't have SAS and MXG,

Re: Unit-count default with UNIT=group-name?

2013-10-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Charles, Yes you have implicitly requested one volume. Assuming the DATACLAS has 1 or blank for the unit count field you have effectively coded a unit count of 1 in this JCL. You would have to code UNIT=(SYSDA,p) where p is 1, or multiple volsers to increase the unit count. Ron -Original

Re: IBM now employs more workers in India than US

2013-10-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ed, That's great news. Good for the economy of a very poor country. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] IBM now

Re: Something to Think About - Optimal PDS Blocking

2013-12-09 Thread Ron Hawkins
Gil, They're not really virtualized. They are encpsulated.  Ron Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® 8.0, an ATT 4G LTE tablet Original message From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com Date: 12/07/2013 09:49 (GMT-08:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: VARY OFFLINE fat finger

2013-12-19 Thread Ron Hawkins
I regularly vary 1000s of volumes online/offline several times a day, and sometimes several times in a few minutes. I don't want no steenkin' changes unless the default remains as it is now. I do recall doing this on the z9 was a major pain and slow as watching grass grow, but on a z196 it's all

Re: VARY OFFLINE fat finger

2013-12-19 Thread Ron Hawkins
behavior as the default. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] VARY OFFLINE fat finger Ron Hawkins

Re: hexadecimal?

2013-12-22 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ye Gods, I work for Hitachi. Should I leave the list? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 11:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] hexadecimal? Btw

Re: Local Page dataset sizing/quantity ROT?

2013-12-26 Thread Ron Hawkins
David, Perhaps with a different twist, what problems are you trying to prevent :-) I wouldn't go to the level of Controller separation anymore - it'd s bit of overkill. However I'd still look for some level of hardware separation within the controller to ensure paging runs as fast possible

Re: Local Page dataset sizing/quantity ROT?

2014-01-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
Art, Channels paths, ports, Front End Directors and ports are easy to map so that locals can be allocated across every possible path. The missing part of most strategies is understanding the parallelism from the cache to the disk and array group. There are many schema available for RAID and

Re: Scary Sysprogs

2014-01-07 Thread Ron Hawkins
All, My history with z/OS is more about performance and tuning, rather than hardcore sysprogging. Tuning is almost always about doing it a new way, and I only wish there were more newbies in this field with no preconceived ideas about how it has always worked. Back when I was not Mr Congeniality

Re: Local Page dataset sizing/quantity ROT?

2014-01-07 Thread Ron Hawkins
it the foremost attribute these days? Rob Schramm On Jan 3, 2014 4:15 PM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Art, Channels paths, ports, Front End Directors and ports are easy to map so that locals can be allocated across every possible path. The missing part of most strategies

Re: Darren seems to be alive but....

2014-01-07 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ed, You're original question to the list, and I quote verbatim: Is the owner of IBM-MAIN alive or dead? Darren's first sentence in his response: Yes, Ed, I'm still alive. What part of your original question was not answered? Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: ISMF QUESTIONS - VIEWING STORAGE GROUP STATS

2014-01-29 Thread Ron Hawkins
I wish they fix the ISMF panels to be whole screen length on a 60 line screen first... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 7:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: Disposal of storage devices/med

2014-01-29 Thread Ron Hawkins
Radoslaw, One of the problems I see with Host based overwrite is that you can only overwrite the current location of the logical volume. If you are using IBM's Eazytier, or Hitachi's HDT you really do not know the past location of the chunks of the volume, only the last location. The same

Re: Was: Implicit VVDS creation now: FDR VVDS's

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Can you release extents on legacy VSAM dataset? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Was: Implicit

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bill, Think EAV volume... I just had a lot of fun with this very scenario building DEFRAG experiments. 2x1 track dataset, and then delete every second dataset across 256 volumes. Who would have thought that the UCAT size would be my biggest problem (5 million datasets). Ron

Re: Large Multi-Volume Physical Sequential allocation question

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bob, It's usually simpler to specify UNIT=(3390,7) and forget the VOL parm altogether. An explicit unit count is not ignored for SMS managed datasets. I used to use ACC/SRS to force all DSORG=PS datasets to be allocated with a unit count of 5 - solved my X37 nightmares big time. Blew TIOT in a

Re: What are the EAV disks capacity most big Z/OS MF customers use?

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Shai, I'd hazard a guess that shops using some type of thin provisioning would simply make the volume the maximum size supported by the controller, even if the planned to just put the JES2 Checkpoint on the volume. In this case a 10 CYL dataset on a 262K CYL volume is not a problem, or a waste.

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
I recall it was 1/3 of the way in, and the idea was nuked by cache (3880-13/23). No point clustering your busiest datasets together 1/3 or 1/2 of the way into the volume when they are usually cache resident. You create a nice quiet area on the platter for seeking between those less busy

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
That sounds like GTFPARS. It used to read a GTF trace and generate IEHLIST for the volumes it found. It used to generate a kewl seek histogram, and a dataset seek activity report you could use to tune the location of your busiest datasets. I used to tune SYSRES dataset positions using this,

Re: VLF or PDSE cache

2013-06-04 Thread Ron Hawkins
Miklos, As it is a PDSE load library, LLA freeze can probably help you first. VLF will not do anything for PDSE that are not load library or REXX. You'll need to tune your PDSE buffering parms to get improvements. Lizette has a lot of experience with this... Ron -Original Message-

Re: VLF or PDSE cache

2013-06-06 Thread Ron Hawkins
$d4617230$@sbcglobal.net, on 06/04/2013 at 08:14 AM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net said: VLF will not do anything for PDSE that are not load library or REXX. CLIST. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We

Re: Question about LSR vs HiperBatch

2013-06-18 Thread Ron Hawkins
Norma, In terms of the buffering algorithm Hiperbatch and BLSR are really chalk and cheese. Hiperbatch is designed for buffering sequential access from multiple, concurrent jobs where the buffering is designed to have trailing jobs catch up to the leading job, and then have the leading job prime

Re: XRC Problem HDS (9980)

2013-06-18 Thread Ron Hawkins
Manshadi, I'm a bit confused. You mention the HDS 9980 and XRC in the caption, the HDS USP and asynch in the content. There are three asynchronous remote copy methods supported in the 9980 and USP: - XRC - TrueCopy Asynch - Universal Replicator (HUR) It's hard

Re: zHPF

2013-08-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ed, Actually the TCW has a shorter path length to process on the storage side, at least on HDS kit. On the VSP we see an improvement in response time, tens of microseconds, and an increase in max throughput of a VSD (Virtual Storage Director - the MP that handles almost everything except data

Re: RACF Database protection

2013-08-18 Thread Ron Hawkins
Skip, There was an method posted many years ago that used a lexicon of common words, and passwords, to encrypt a UID and match it to the value stored in RACF. Is this what you are referring to? The OP of that post mentioned this as an auditing tool, but I recall a lengthy and robust discussion

Re: comparing binary file

2013-08-18 Thread Ron Hawkins
Paul, A B Just omit the duplicates, but keep the 1st one... Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN]

Re: comparing binary file

2013-08-18 Thread Ron Hawkins
] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 4:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] comparing binary file On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 15:48:17 -0700, Ron Hawkins wrote: A B Just omit the duplicates, but keep the 1st one... On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:24:43

Re: zHPF

2013-08-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
If your company is interested in doing this sort of benchmarking on a regular basis, or having access to analysis and benchmarks outside of IBM I suggest you look into the PAI/O Driver from Performance Associates. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-31 Thread Ron Hawkins
I forget when it was, but quite some time ago, perhaps pre-SMS, allocation started massaging the Eligible Device list so that unit addresses already allocated to a DD in a step were moved to the bottom of the EDL. The reason for this was to prevent the behavior I think you are describing below -

Re: DASD space management

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Hawkins
I'm with Lizette in thinking you could do a this a hundred different ways with DCOLLECT and MXG, and pretty cheaply on a workstation if you have SAS for Windows. I also agree that going ES/EA from the get go would be a benefit. Did that 15 years ago and it worked a treat. Ron Sent via the

Re: z/OS FBA Services (Was: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5)

2013-09-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
traditional British dd/mm/yy? Surely you meant to say almost all of the rest of the world... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 5:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: MIH Setting for DS8100/DS8300

2014-02-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bobby, From our default IEAIOSnn member. MIH DASD=01:00 HYPERPAV=YES ZHPF=YES Individual addresses can be used to override these values. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Herring, Bobby Sent:

Re: SSD in DFSMS

2014-03-06 Thread Ron Hawkins
Radoslaw, I always thought that HDP or Eazytier would render this feature useless, but who knows. There was a Share presentation two years ago by the development team that talked about this and some of the details of the mechanism. My recollection is that a Storage Class with an MSR of 3ms

Re: Assign Dataclass via Storeclass ACS routine

2014-04-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bill, The problem for you is that changing the DATACLAS to one with EA, or changing the existing DATACLAS to support EA will not change the attributes of the files already allocated. Think of DATACLAS as JCL DD statement. It described the attributes of the dataset to be allocated. Those

Re: Extended Addressibility (was: ZFS - Allocation Failure)

2014-04-18 Thread Ron Hawkins
I did exactly this shop wide for VSAM KSDS in 1997. It was a seamless change. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-29 Thread Ron Hawkins
Because 1.14 would not sit well with the Cantonese... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 10:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Beyond the EC12

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-29 Thread Ron Hawkins
Reminds me of a Hong Kong building I was living in. The floors went 11, 12, 12a, 14, 15... Which was strange seeing 14 is unlucky for the Cantonese (that's twice I've used this - boring...) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-30 Thread Ron Hawkins
, 2014 11:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Beyond the EC12 Ron Hawkins wrote: Reminds me of a Hong Kong building I was living in. The floors went 11, 12, 12a, 14, 15... Weird. If you truly believe in God, you really don't need all those superstitions. Perhaps

Re: New install library size

2014-05-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
All, Shmuel's reply prompts me to suggest that you consider what lies outside the nine dots. Firstly, would you consider thin provisioning of the installation volumes and SYSRES? This will get you onto 3390-A for these volumes using any size you want. Why is this good? Because DVE is also

Re: New install library size

2014-05-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
Yeah, what he said. This goes along with my response to this thread: people are still piddling around with mod 9's and even mod 3's? Once dynamic pooling became available on our Hitachi VSP I reconfigured all our volumes to mod 54's. I've provisioned volumes with 120% of the array's

Re: New install library size

2014-05-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
DS8870 does, but don't know if it was an option. Ken On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Yeah, what he said. This goes along with my response to this thread: people are still piddling around with mod 9's and even mod 3's? Once dynamic

Re: Performance for DFDSS with ORACLE Tape Drives VSM5 ( was Change tape block size)

2014-05-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
Victor, If I understand problem at the root of your questions, you are trying to speed up DFSMSdss logical dumps, especially for compressed PS-E data sets. From your questions you are focusing on the tape output rate as the gating factor for the elapsed time of the dump, but have you looked at

Re: Auxiliary Storage Usage Problem

2014-05-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Juergen, You need to allow for some double accounting of unchanged pages on AUX. While it may not be at the root of what you are seeing, pages that are paged in from AUX and are not changed will remain on AUX. There is some growth in AUX over time because of this. I have no measurement, but I

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-18 Thread Ron Hawkins
No it's not faster. DFSMSdss calls repro under the covers for most VSAM data set copy operations, but buffering is limited to whatever was used when the data set was defined. I hope everyone uses a large BUFSP or BUFND value for REPRO (like 849920). Ron -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: z/OS 1.13 ADRDSSU ECB WAIT

2014-06-19 Thread Ron Hawkins
Gary, I may be having a senior moment but I think I have seen this when there are a lot of logical dumps starting that all hit the same catalog. Even your INCLUDE(**) is going to spend a big hunk of time searching the catalogs and volumes for datasets before it starts to dump anything. My

Re: z/OS 1.13 ADRDSSU ECB WAIT

2014-06-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
ADRDSSU ECB WAIT On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 05:47:40 -0700, Ron Hawkins wrote: Gary, I may be having a senior moment but I think I have seen this when there are a lot of logical dumps starting that all hit the same catalog. Even your INCLUDE(**) is going to spend a big hunk of time searching

Re: international cuisine; was Re: OT: Re: Freebie software; was Feebie software

2014-07-08 Thread Ron Hawkins
I love pork chitlins, or chicheron baboy is great with a beer. Used to buy Haggis in Hong Kong that came in a vacuum sealed plastic pouch. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gross, Randall [PRI-1PP] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Freebie software; was Feebie software

2014-07-09 Thread Ron Hawkins
That works both ways Ed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 9:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Freebie software; was Feebie software Shane: That an

Re: Cleanup Sort Volumes

2014-07-14 Thread Ron Hawkins
Agree with you Ted. (finally :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 10:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Cleanup Sort Volumes Shouldn't the real

Re: multi-volume SMS file allocation

2012-11-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Jean Louis, I'm sorry if my advice led you astray. I know I had a solution for this many years ago, and it used to work fine for multi volume SAS datasets. I trying to find some time to do some testing to remind myself of how this worked. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: dsf to write over entire volume

2012-12-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
Mike, While this will erase the logical track presented to a CKD host, it does not actually erase the data on the physical drive. You need to use the vendor's secure erase facility if the controller has one, or actually overwrite the whole volume with your favorite data generation or copy

Re: dsf to write over entire volume

2012-12-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
, and it can be checked/confirmed. [Ron Hawkins] If you are using any of the current day wide striping or thin provisioning products from IBM, EMC and HDS then this sort of mapping will be near impossible. The closest you'll get is the array groups that make up the pool. If you are using any dynamic

Re: dsf to write over entire volume

2012-12-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
Radosalw, Yes, it depends. It can depend on things you described, but also on the detail level. Usually you can map logical volume to the dasd array ;-) but sometimes it you can go down into details liek raid group. [Ron Hawkins] Mapping a HDP pool is a bit like mapping a log structured

Re: dsf to write over entire volume

2012-12-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
each volume so much it did not result in any decreased elapsed time. Erasing 1 volume on 20 8-packs at once over 8 ESCON cables did not result in slow downs. Speed for other DASD devices I erased had different timings and will vary for you. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Ron Hawkins

Re: dsf to write over entire volume

2012-12-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
written before the next record is sent. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Mike, Have you confirmed with each DASD vendor that the contents of the channel command generated by TRKFMT ERASDATA are actually passed to the disk drive for drive types

Re: dsf to write over entire volume

2012-12-15 Thread Ron Hawkins
: [IBM-MAIN] dsf to write over entire volume W dniu 2012-12-13 18:22, Ron Hawkins pisze: Radosalw, (Radoslaw, pronounced like Radoslav ;-) ) Encryption is a matter of time and cost. The question is WHEN I will decrypt the data, not IF. And WHEN depends on my budget (the more money

Re: Deleting old HSM backups

2013-02-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
David, Why not just delete the unnecessary datasets? The backups will follow. G, D, R Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David G. Schlecht Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: DS8870 - Ranks - RAID issue

2013-02-19 Thread Ron Hawkins
Raju, If memory serves me correctly, with IBM DASD aren't you required to define the first two ranks as R5 6D+1P+1S, where S is the floating Dynamic Spare? Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Raju Reddy Sent: Friday,

Re: Improve LLA/VLF usage

2013-02-19 Thread Ron Hawkins
Leonardo, Try the Type 64 subtype 64 record. Be aware that some addresses do not write an interval record, so best to include an IPL in your data collection. This will allow you to split directory processing our from the total IO count. Type 14/15 records do not show the dataset name in a

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Don, I'm can't speak for the EMC and IBM iterations, but with HDS HDP setting up mirrored configurations is just way to easy. I'm guessing it would be similarly easy on the other vendors wide stripe configurations. It's not exactly what you are asking for, but in the lab we are setting up and

Re: Reducing Backup Time (Was: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed)

2013-02-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ed, While it's not perfect, what if you did the FlashCopy to a completely controller? If you have HDS DASD, you could virtualize some brand-x midrange disk and FlashCopy or Shadowimage the zFS files/volumes to the midrange storage. Using FlashCopy Incremental means that you only copy what

Re: Improve LLA/VLF usage

2013-02-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Yes I did. I'll blame the Percocet tablets for that brain fart... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Improve LLA/VLF

Re: XRC Consistency Group Time Report.

2013-02-26 Thread Ron Hawkins
Manshadi, 1- How can I find consistency group time and the delay time? Look at the XQUERY command. I think it would be something like XQUERY VOLUME(ALL) STATUS but check the manual. This is issued against the STM and it is the consistency time of records applied to the secondary volumes, and not

Re: Enqueue during VSAM REPRO - Who is the culprit

2013-03-09 Thread Ron Hawkins
Gil, Sounds like it is just being Windows compatible - File is in use by another user - right down to the how you identify the user... Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, March 09,

Re: Speed up DASD copy

2013-03-09 Thread Ron Hawkins
Miklos, Others may want to correct me, but from what I've observed OPT(4) is only used for the DUMP command. COPY will accept OPT(4), but all you seem to get is OPT(3). Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Miklos

Re: Flash Cards on MVS

2013-03-09 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ed, While it does not directly answer your question, we have a bunch of Flash Drives (SSD Drives) installed for about two years now that we use for performance testing. We don't use them every day, but when we do use them we beat the begeezus out of them with both reads and writes. Our Open

Re: DS6800 3390 quesation

2013-03-09 Thread Ron Hawkins
Get an EMC or HDS engineer to do it... (G, D, R). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] DS6800 3390 quesation

Re: SMS QUESTION

2013-03-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
David, Yes, your understanding is the same as mine. The primary eligible device list contains volumes that will not exceed the max threshold if the primary space is allocated there. This is sorted on performance criteria. The secondary eligible device list has volumes with enough free space to

Re: mainframe DASD

2013-03-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Fred, For Hitachi, if you select the PARTNERS tab at WWW.HDS.COM the first item on the action bar is BUY THROUGH A PARTNER. Selecting this launches a new window where you can search for a partner in your country, state and city. Or you can just click on this link after checking for text

Re: Making DASD shared - IODF

2013-03-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Peter, Make sure you are not converting reserves for the devices that will be defined as shared in the IOCDS. If the LPARs sharing the devices are not in a common sysplex or GRSplex then the hardware reserves converted to an ENQ will not be seen by the other system. If you don't let RESERVE

Re: Dasd - Converting from Mod-9 to Mod-27

2013-04-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
Peter, You cannot convert a 10017 Cyl 3390-9 to a 32760 Cyl 3390-9. You can use DFSMSdss or similar to physically copy from a 10017 Cyl to a 32760 Cyl volume, and this must be followed by a REFVTOC so the VTOC is aware of the new volume size. You cannot merge three volumes into one unless you do

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

2014-08-26 Thread Ron Hawkins
DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:18:21 -0700, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net wrote: A three tier strategy using HDD or SSD for Tier 1, Nearline SAS for ML2, and virtualized Brand-X midrange storage for Tier 3 presents a new paradigm for archiving inactive

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

2014-08-26 Thread Ron Hawkins
Rex, It is based on an IO per hour rate for the page. Occasionally referencing a page, or thousands of pages will not cause the page(s) to be promoted from tier 3 unless the activity is prolonged or intense enough to change the IO/hour. There are both short and long term IO/hour measures that are

Re: FW: DFSORT buffering

2014-08-26 Thread Ron Hawkins
Kieth, Why aren't you looking at the IO time for the input and output datasets? Surely the Type 42 subtype 6 record will tell you more about the difference in IO behavior than cpu time. I don't see a comparison of SSCH count mentioned anywhere in the thread. Ron -Original Message-

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

2014-08-26 Thread Ron Hawkins
Glenn, I work for one of the three vendors, and so I am very surprised to hear that HDS thinks that Tape is clearly the best storage media for long term data archiving. Would you happen to know who it is that represents HDS hardware/software that agrees with this? I for one strongly disagree

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD

2014-08-26 Thread Ron Hawkins
] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 3:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] General question on moving DFHSM work from mix TAPE/DASD to More DASD On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:18:21 -0700, Ron Hawkins wrote: ... but I drank

Re: What happenned to z/OS?

2015-10-17 Thread Ron Hawkins
Same place as AIX I guess... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] What happenned to z/OS? A Mac person accused me of

Re: What happenned to z/OS?

2015-10-17 Thread Ron Hawkins
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/ -Original Message- From: Ron Hawkins [mailto:ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:24 PM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: RE: [IBM-MAIN] What happenned to z/OS? Same place as

Re: (External):Re: IBM

2015-10-17 Thread Ron Hawkins
I'm thinking they just want to improve on the copies of Hercules that has been freely available to them for years. Doesn't the EC require IBM to give the same sort of access to source code? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: File Placement Utility

2015-10-10 Thread Ron Hawkins
Chuck, I'm a performance guy, so when you say "balance" I immediately think of IO activity. I'm sure you mean something else. Do you mean balanced in terms of space, number of datasets, or do you simply need them spread randomly across "up to" 70 volumes. Ron -Original Message- From:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] File Placement Utility

2015-10-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
Chuck, I'll start with three assumptions: 1) The 70 volumes are in there own Storage Group (let's call it SGCHUCK0) 2) The datasets already exist 3) They have some qualifiers that will allow you to identify them with a mask If those assumptions are true, then my approach

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] File Placement Utility

2015-10-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
Then run a CONVERTV and an Alter Storage group and remove the volumes from SMS after the DFSMSDSS copy has completed. Otherwise run a DCOLLECT, and use that as input to REXX or SAS to generate the JCL you need to round robin 22 datasets per volume. Use your utility of chpice. Neither of these

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Ron Hawkins
Peter, Space constraint relief is part of the DATACLAS construct, not the Storage Class. These are the collective functions that will cause SPACE requests to be overridden, space reduction, and additional volumes to be added to you dataset. You will need to use a DATACLAS that has Space

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-10-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bob, All VSAM IO is handled by Media Manager, not just SMS. You description below is attributing facilities to Media Manager that I have not heard of or observed before. Can you elaborate on " Media Manager consolidates the extents?" Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Watching paint dry ....

2015-10-02 Thread Ron Hawkins
LOL, you're trying to tell a Queeenslander there are better beaches somewhere else? You may as well take coal to Newcastle... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 5:43 AM

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