I may need to change my email address for IBM Main purposes. I know how to turn
mail on and off. How do I change the address?
BTW I may soon be needing to use a new address for all communication, not just
the List. Please see below.
Another BTW I'm sending this note as plain text with no
I can't really contribute to answering the original question because I've never
tried it. At this shop we use HCM, which gives a comprehensive graphical
representation of everything included in the IODF, including switch
connections. I highly recommend it despite the obvious learning curve.
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>On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
>Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 9:29 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: (External):Re: Inquire intrdr default job class
>
>On 2015-12-08, at 10:05, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
>
>> When you're the only kid in the toy store, you hav
Ouch. I've been (gently) scolded for failing to remove the execrable 'External'
carbuncle attached nowadays to all email subject lines coming from outside. But
I have not heard about Unicode problems. I can try setting 'simple text'
instead of default HTML. Will that help?
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J.O.Skip
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: Inquire intrdr default job class
On 2015-12-07 09:58, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
> Gil's point raises an issue more critical than just the question at h
I can't speak for catalog, but RLS for HSM CDS gave us a huge boost in
performance.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
or
jo.skip.robin...@att.net
: (External):Re: Inquire intrdr default job class
On 2015-12-08, at 10:05, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
> When you're the only kid in the toy store, you have free reign. Even z HMC
> uses the 'write-back' function for tuning updates. But z/OS is a complex
> shared environment. You can't all
Gil's point raises an issue more critical than just the question at hand. Once
upon a time, 'reading JES2 parms' would have been a reasonable strategy in
general for determining how JES2 runs. Since the advent of pervasive dynamic
changes, however, the init deck as coded is no longer a reliable
The reason you had to FORCE these structures is that from the beginning of
parallel sysplex and CF, disconnected DB2 structures live in a perpetual state
of 'failed persistent'. Many CF structures are deleted by XCF when their
exploiters go away. For the sake of DB2 recovery, associated
at 10:57 PM, J O Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com> said:
>MVCIN was indeed a useful instruction. I encountered it (IIRC) on a
>4381. I assumed that, like typical new instructions, it would stick
>around for the duration. I was later shocked to discover that it had
>be
a "ton" of JCL? [was:RE: Straightforward way to
determine hardware architecture level?]
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:02:01 -0600, Dana Mitchell wrote:
>On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 23:03:59 +0000, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
>
>>(This whole season feels like Friday.) A doughnut, on the o
l very much
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:09 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of J O Skip Robinson
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:55 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] User Cats and Replication Sites
Touche. We had a near catastrophic catalog problem some time back. Of course
the replicated copy faithfully mirrored
Timeframe was 1980 plus or minus. I was a true novice sysprog and kept an arm's
length from OS innards. It was during that two-year gig that MVS/SP was
announced, so not likely available just yet. I only remember being impressed
with the clever workaround that kept the Amdahl useful.
P.S. The
(This whole season feels like Friday.) A doughnut, on the other hand, requires
the hole for its very definition. The hole supplies no mass or nutritional
value, but without it the thing is not a doughnut. By contrast a punch card
requires the solid part to give the holes meaning; they would
MVCIN was indeed a useful instruction. I encountered it (IIRC) on a 4381. I
assumed that, like typical new instructions, it would stick around for the
duration. I was later shocked to discover that it had been abandoned on a
siding somewhere along the railway to the future. Probably still there
In early discussions of this facility at SHARE, several customers owned up to
the iffy practice of sharing load libraries across boundaries such that shared
PDSEs would be unworkable. This practice is fixable, of course, but a
considerable amount of work might be required in the application
I'm reaching back a long way to stretch the notion of 'straightforward', but
here goes. When I was a novice sysprog, my shop had an Amdahl. MVS at that time
predated 'system product'. (Way back.) IBM shipped a new level of MVS that
executed instructions not present our Amdahl. Amdahl responded
a z10. My boss wants something
more user-friendly than a S0C1.
Charles
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Of J O Skip Robinson
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Straightf
I confess to not having slogged through this thread, but from the beginning
I've wondered why no one has suggested the static system symbol
System symbols can be queried from pretty much any environment. They're set
automatically at IPL. Maybe OP needs more detail...
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J.O.Skip Robinson
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:53:09 +, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
>Nothing beats replication, the more the better.
Hmmm - unless you happen to have a critical error in the source. Replicating
that quietly everywhere can leave you with non-IPLable systems *everywhere*.
Which you may not find out ab
In order to make a 'foreign' catalog available, I don't believe you DEFINE
RECAT because the catalog already exists. IMPORT CONNECT (whereby you name the
volume) creates all the necessary pointers in the current system's master
catalog. Furthermore, IMPORT CONNECT does not require that the
(Reposting with edited subject. Sorry that I forget to massage it so often.)
In order to make a 'foreign' catalog available, I don't believe you DEFINE
RECAT because the catalog already exists. IMPORT CONNECT (whereby you name the
volume) creates all the necessary pointers in the current
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> On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:09 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: User Cats and Replication Sites
>
> (Reposting with edited subject. Sorry that I forg
helpful.
Thanks all very much
Lizette
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:09 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: User Cats and
Being able to install maintenance separately can be very important depending on
your shop's organization and the distribution of duties among (even a small
number of) folks. I see two classes of components:
1) Those closely akin to z/OS that install on and migrate with sysres.
2) Those not in
None of my cards has been chipified, surprising considering the size of the
issuing institutions. I shopped yesterday at an upscale supermarket using my
magstripe card. The clerk pointed out that the card machine included a chip
reader but allowed that it had not yet been activated, so I would
Can also be accomplished with PDS[85] command or StarTool product.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
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From: IBM
The OUTPUT command (at least here) shows only Held output. XMITted files must
be in (non-held) Output. If I try to see my file via OUTPUT, I get
IKJ56339I NO HELD OUTPUT FOR JOB my-userid
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program
, November 19, 2015 2:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry (also RECEIVE)
On 2015-11-17 15:23, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
> An XMITted file sits in the JES output queue in a designated class (usually
> B) with the recipient's userid a
I haven't experimented with this, but going with NOSCRATCH is likely to cause
big problems with DASD GDGs. A data set residing on an SMS-managed volume must
be cataloged. It cannot just sit there uncataloged. Irresistible force meets
unmovable object.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern
Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:43 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?
In
<sn1pr0101mb1520b1e7af45d8e84a4d2023ce...@sn1pr0101mb1520.prod.exchangelabs.com>,
on 11/18/2015
at 05:19 PM, J O Skip Ro
Since IBM does define any model larger than a Mod-9, usage of other Mod-xx
terms is user defined. I would think, however, that the historical derivation
of model terminology is based on capacity relative to a (mythical?) Mod-1. In
any case, a Mod-9 is 3x the size of a Mod-3, so I would expect a
So now I was moved to look at our actual sizes.
Mod-9: 10016 cyls
Mod-27: 30050 cyls (3x would be 30048 cyls)
Mod-54: 60101 cyls (6x would be 60096 cyls)
I'm not a storage guy; just reporting what I see.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
This happened some years ago, different incident. We had a nightly job that ran
on four different parallel sysplexes to [list catalog stuff]. Don’t remember
the details. Essentially the same job ran on three sysplexes in about 2
minutes. On the fourth it ran over 20 minutes. I looked at the
Unlike CLIST, REXX is tricky for handling subcommands and prompt responses,
which need to be QUEUEd (or PUSHed) onto the stack before the main command is
issued. This can be problematic when the response cannot be known in advance of
issuing the command. For example, the data set name to use
sday, November 17, 2015 2:51 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Moving a Sysplex
Thanks for the information. Do you remember how long your outage was?
We're being told (using one solution) that the outage will be on the order of
two hours.
Mark Jacobs
> J O Skip Robinson <mailto:jo.
Others may know something I don't, but I would answer No. I don't believe you
can run a (parallel) sysplex over that distance because of CF link limitations.
Furthermore, assuming that you could somehow get one sysplex member sharing
across that distance, you would have to switch from using
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry (also RECEIVE)
On 2015-11-17 12:00, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
> Unlike CLIST, REXX is tricky for handling subcommands and pro
In a memorable scene from Lethal Weapon 3, Mel Gibson and Rene Russo compare
battle scars. Many of us could easily step into that scene and compete. RSU*
might represent some of our scars. OTOH RSU* might have prevented some of those
scars. Maintenance is an art, not a science. There's no magic
We have an application that utilizes an RYO record locking mechanism. I believe
that it predates even LPAR, when all CICS regions ran on a single OS image that
occupied an entire CEC. The locks live in a CSA table, which is great for
regions running in the same image but problematic for regions
z/OS does indeed behave this way. Every volume is initialized with the
non-sysres wait state code. This is how IBM can document the consequence of
IPLing from a non-sysres volume. The wait state code gets overwritten by
properly formed IPL text.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California
A Friday musing. We at SHARE pounded on IBM for years to implement symbol
substitution in batch. IBM's defense of the status quo was that unlike STC and
TSO, where execution is immediate on a known system, a batch job could wander
all around the JES network on its way from submit to execute.
I can contribute one factoid to this discussion. We use IBM's TWS for job
scheduling. Because of the scheduling's extreme sensitivity to time stamps and
because of a negative incident we had a few years back, we've been accustomed
to bouncing TWS shortly after the 'fallback' time change. This
This may be OT for your actual question, but an alarm went off in my head while
reading this post. If you carefully shut down your systems before copying to
your DR site, you may well find yourself in a world of hurt in the event of a
real disaster. If systems die a sudden death without
Too much time on my hands. BPMTEXT EF096058 :
Description: HFS-compat mount, - error attaching aggregate or was found not to
be HFS-compat.
Action: Ensure
After grousing about terminology in my previous post, I need to elaborate. I
used 'console command' as a straw dog for API. Actually various groups in SHARE
have been clamoring for *decades* for improved APIs, particularly to facilitate
automation. What we have been offered for the most part is
Brian Valentine has presented a session at SHARE called "Top Ten Things You
Should be Doing on Your HMC but You're Not". It includes security tips. In our
case, we come into the company network remotely via VPN, which defines the
various applications that we (by userid) are allowed to access.
Not mentioned in the article is a motivation I heard from childhood: tending
one's garden. As part of the general war effort, the populace were encouraged
to grow at least some of their own food in order to free up commercial
agriculture for the troops. These so-called Victory Gardens were
(It must be Friday somewhere.) My first encounter with APIs was a (likely
fictitious) anecdote about an engineer who went to a programmer and asked for a
program to calculate a square root. "Are you sure that's all you want? Just a
calculation?" The engineer insisted that's all he needed. The
If the SHARE Singalong were still running in high gear, we could write an
anti-romantic ballad about the despair of 'Java compatibility'. I would suggest
that each new Java release contains antibodies to all previous releases and--of
course--to all future releases. The love doctor will advise
OP did not state whether GMT is set to UTC or local. I would have thought by
now shops would have converted to UTC. I understand that the hit is much bigger
for shops located in the Eastern Hemisphere because the change requires
shutting down--once--for a prodigious period, but in the Western
The sysout keyword goes on the response to the RECEIVE prompt, e.g.
da(myds) shr sysout(x)
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
-Original
OP asked literally about 'z/OS version'. Several fine answers followed. But if
OP is actually interested in something like 'maintenance level', then the
answer is that nothing will tell you that unless you have zapped some literal
into a user-modifiable area such as (for example) NUCLEUS. We do
I don't understand the reference to IPLTEXT, which is not part of the fix.
Otherwise, as already noted, you could just copy the three module (plus one
alias!) to the appropriate libraries and IPL. We have been known to take such
an action, but there has to be a good reason not to clone the
The requirement is 'onerous' if you're determined--or required--to run a Rexx
in a non-TSO environment such as batch via PGM=IRXJCL. The Rexx manual
documents a number of functions as 'TSO/E extensions' that are usable only if
PGM=IKJEFTxx.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison
I've never heard that a severance package is required by law in the US,
although it would likely be a state issue rather than Federal. From war stories
I've encountered I'd say almost certainly not. Large responsible companies
usually offer something. Terms vary, but it's designed to keep torch
severance and employment are taxed differently I think severance is at
higher tax rate
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 5:21 PM, J O Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com>
> wrote:
>
> I've never heard that a severance package is required by law in the US,
> alt
A new colleague recently had great difficulty subscribing to IBM-MAIN. The
problem turned out to be on our side but not specific to IBM-MAIN. Some time
ago a filter was put in place to reject email whose Envelope Sender was blank.
This was supposedly to ward off unsolicited, unwanted list
A more outrageous example. Some years ago management decided that we did not
really need Netview, so they refused to order the next upgrade that was
actually quite a bit more expensive. BUILDMCS came to the rescue. By comparison
with Book Mgr, Netview is very complicated. Had elements in
PDDU is totally new to me. For years I've used PUTDOC to send all manner of doc
to IBM. If someone has used both, could you post a short compare-and-contrast
review?
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
There have been times when I preferred to send raw unformatted LOGREC data if
only to create a smaller attachment. But I've never found any way to select a
from-to range of raw data, so I end up running EREP just to make use of
selection criteria. We all send 'raw' SVC dumps, right? No one
Lizette, I'm not sure what you're looking for. CF Sizer does calculations for
'Enhanced Catalog Sharing' and for 'DFSMShsm Common Recall Queue'. Is there
some other function you're trying to size?
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS
I've known Tom for twenty years and never knew what the 'G' was for. OTOH I get
address as 'JO' all the time. A sure mark of spam. ;-)
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
: (External):Re: AW: Re: IEAVAPE2/IEAVPSE2 another address space
So you must go by Skip...?
On Monday, October 19, 2015, J O Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com>
wrote:
> I've known Tom for twenty years and never knew what the 'G' was for.
> OTOH I get address as 'JO' all the
I don't know where to direct this. A colleague is having trouble subscribing to
the List. He can successfully send INFO IBM-MAIN, but when he sends SUBSCRIBE,
nothing happens. No reply at all from UA.EDU. His userid is on the same
corporate domain as mine. OTOH he has subscribed from his
Looks like I jumped the gun a bit. Our email guru found something on our side
he hadn't noticed. Dinesh finally got an acknowledgment from his SUBSCRIBE
request. Waiting to see if he actually gets postings delivered...
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon
We have sort of the opposite 'problem'. Our network security people run some
kind of probe against every device found on our network. When it pokes the HMC,
he calls home and reports a possible intruder. Then Support Center opens an
incident and our CE gets dragged in. I tried to get the HMCs
Both functions are working for me today. Java level:
java version "1.8.0_60"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_60-b27)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.60-b23, mixed mode)
We have had Java problems off and on but finally standardized on this version
after upgrading all HMCs to
The PTF does not update any macro, but as Peter says, it's not a programming
interface anyway.
One more point. The NUCLEUS element CUNMIIPL has the alias IEAVNPUN. If you
choose to put the fix elements in place 'manually' ahead of the next IPL, don't
forget the alias.
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J.O.Skip
OK, what Peter said. I get a C- for the explanation part, but I think the
method part is sound. We're now running R13 on sandbox with the fix in place.
V2R1 to follow soon.
A note on circumvention options. If you are truly out of harm's way for this
problem, I don't suppose you have to do
Remote access--literally getting to an application from outside the glass
house--is not intrinsically risky. I'm logged on to my system now from my
dining room table. To get to any application--including HMC--I must first VPN
into the company network. That requires several hoop jumping steps,
Gotta agree. That wording is not quite the same thing as saying 'there are no
back doors'. On balance, however, I usually impugn such wobbly subtext to
imprecise verbiage, not to finely crafted misdirection. I give IBM a pass on
the statement. But then again, I'm easy.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
We have installed the R13 PTF and tested with assistance from IBM. To see your
vulnerability, use IPCS ACTIVE or Omegamon MLST or Mainview (???) to display
data currently in the UCCB control block at +10:
10?+220?+3C?+10
Before the PTF, you will see something like CFA83DBE 87F18D69 , which is
On 2015-10-15, at 21:06, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
> I'm piecing together various clues. It appears to me that:
>
> 1. The UCCB is a defined control block, mapped in several (!) MACLIB members
> such as CUNBAIDF.
>
A more modular design might map it in one macro and call it from
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of J O Skip Robinson
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 4:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: (External):Re: Unicode
Subject: (External):Re: Unicode services Red alert
On 2015-10-15 17:37, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
> I think I received the following link internally rather than from IBM-MAIN.
> It's a good discussion of the issue.
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA48941
>
Abend FDB indicates an invalid SVC call. The SVC number is x'DB', or 219, which
is in the range of installation defined SVCs. In other words, it's not an
official IBM SVC. Either the SVC environment was set up improperly, or it was
not an actual SVC call but execution of code that looks like an
This is reminiscent of Sun buying STK and getting into a business they clearly
did not understand. If the pattern holds, Larry Ellison will postpone buying
his next island and throw a barrelful of cash at Dell. That he does not
understand mainframe hardware either is no obstacle for him.
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Two of my colleagues are trying to join IBM-MAIN. Neither one is successful.
Both have sent notes to LISTSERV trying to following the INFO directive:
SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN
What's with the angle brackets? Required? Prohibited? Nothing seems to work.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California
I'm guessing that most shops have some STORCLASS that bypasses at least some
SMS rules. We have NULL. That bypasses volser assignment, but not all rules. In
the absence of ISMF, you really need to get direction from your storage admin.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
So you're getting
STORAGECLASS SCLARGE MANAGEMENTCLASS--MCLARGE
DATACLASS -OTHER
These are all installation defined names. (I don't believe that SMS natively
provides default names, but I'm not a storage admin.) There is *no way* to
guess what name you could
, but getting an answer to such a
non-emergency question may take days or more. Hence my attempt to find a way
to do it a bit sooner from the expertise on this list.
Peter
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of J O Skip Robinson
Alas. The sysprog that Time forgot.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
The ability to IPL a system with a non-current date--past or future--was a
response to the myriad problems faced by all mainframe customers preparing for
Y2K. Certainly there are products that enable *simulation* of non-current
dates, but the h/w capability is free and universal. That is, the
Well I for one am not voting for Fiorina until she gets this whole thing
straightened out.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
-Original
IIRC after some big digit calculations, I borrowed a couple of Mod 27s but
never actually needed the second one for SererPac work.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
ant to put it in a production environment.
Thanks again and best regards,
Leo
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of J O Skip Robinson
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 5:10 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Recove
My view of recovery routines may have been jaded by an experience early in my
career. We sysprogs were implored to debug an application that was taking truly
bizarre abends. One repeatable abend was in a DFSORT routine. Another was in a
printer error handling routine. Trouble was, it was a
This may sound heretical, but I lean against recovery actions for system exits.
In most cases, the environment in which a system-defined exit runs is protected
already. Messages are issued, dumps are taken, and some semblance of order is
restored. In many cases the exit is disabled so that
When you get 'terminated at end of memory', all bets are off. This generally
happens when the address space has run out of storage to the point that
recovery routines cannot run. No recovery, no message processing, no
preservation of sysout, etc. Your MPF entries indicate user exit processing.
Well I'll be darned. I had not looked carefully at OP's message. That is
*exactly* the context of the enqueue case I posted generically. SDAA004I is NDM
or ConnectDirect depending on your perspective. We seem to have a lot of these
self-clashes in our environment. I have not talked with the
I have no particular insight into this design, but I know a few things about
TPUT vs. PUTLINE. For one thing, TPUT does not even work at all in batch.
Neither can it be captured by OUTTRAP in foreground or background. PUTLINE
works for both. So from the evidence presented, I would guess that
As others have pointed out, enqueue is often a fleeting problem. By the time
you get around to looking into it, it's long gone. After experiencing this
problem a while back, we instructed our automation product to issue a D GRS
command at the time of the conflict based on msgid IKJ56225I.
I have pitched this idea before. In a process that predates me in this shop, it
was recognized that quite apart from auditors' poking around, we sysprogs
needed a way to track a 'system package' at it migrated from one system to the
next throughout the enterprise. The choice was to attach an
We may be zapping our label in NUC at an unconventional spot. IPLINFO does not
show it. Here's what we see at IPL time.
IEA008I R13V PARMS FOLLOW FOR z/OS 01.13.00 HBB7780
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
The problem is OP's shutdown logic. Not all tasks need to be shut down, and
those that do not run under JES2 cannot be shut down using JES2 commands. The
message
IEE707I $DA,XNOT EXECUTED
indicates that JES2 itself has already terminated and therefore cannot be
called upon to shut
I thought that ++HOLD records always had a date, which the corresponding
++RELEASE had to match. I just looked at a random held IBM PTF. It has a date.
My user hold records have dates.
Where did your ++HOLD come from? Could there be a construction error?
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern
I’m not sure exactly what you're doing, but maybe this will help. I create my
own ++HOLD records occasionally to prevent a PTF from installing before a
corresponding 'conditioning PTF' is running on all sharing systems. Haven't
seen one for a while, but these have typically been for a sysplex
REWORK can be any string you choose up to eight characters. I use REWORK on all
of my usermods. I use the sysmod update date in Julian format, e.g. 2015157,
which I like because that shows up in an SMPE display of the sysmod. This date
format (seven characters) allows you to add an eighth
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