A List management question

2015-12-09 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I may need to change my email address for IBM Main purposes. I know how to turn mail on and off. How do I change the address? BTW I may soon be needing to use a new address for all communication, not just the List. Please see below. Another BTW I'm sending this note as plain text with no

Re: HCD Switch Report

2015-12-09 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I can't really contribute to answering the original question because I've never tried it. At this shop we use HCM, which gives a comprehensive graphical representation of everything included in the IODF, including switch connections. I highly recommend it despite the obvious learning curve. .

JES2/3 Initialization member not reflecting current running system was Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

2015-12-09 Thread J O Skip Robinson
LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 9:29 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: (External):Re: Inquire intrdr default job class > >On 2015-12-08, at 10:05, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > >> When you're the only kid in the toy store, you hav

Re: Mime digests [was: IBM-MAIN Digest [snip]]

2015-12-09 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Ouch. I've been (gently) scolded for failing to remove the execrable 'External' carbuncle attached nowadays to all email subject lines coming from outside. But I have not heard about Unicode problems. I can try setting 'simple text' instead of default HTML. Will that help? . . . J.O.Skip

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

2015-12-08 Thread J O Skip Robinson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Inquire intrdr default job class On 2015-12-07 09:58, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > Gil's point raises an issue more critical than just the question at h

Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-08 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I can't speak for catalog, but RLS for HSM CDS gave us a huge boost in performance. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com or jo.skip.robin...@att.net

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

2015-12-08 Thread J O Skip Robinson
: (External):Re: Inquire intrdr default job class On 2015-12-08, at 10:05, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > When you're the only kid in the toy store, you have free reign. Even z HMC > uses the 'write-back' function for tuning updates. But z/OS is a complex > shared environment. You can't all

Re: Inquire intrdr default job class

2015-12-07 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Gil's point raises an issue more critical than just the question at hand. Once upon a time, 'reading JES2 parms' would have been a reasonable strategy in general for determining how JES2 runs. Since the advent of pervasive dynamic changes, however, the init deck as coded is no longer a reliable

Re: POLICY CHANGE PENDING - DELETE

2015-12-07 Thread J O Skip Robinson
The reason you had to FORCE these structures is that from the beginning of parallel sysplex and CF, disconnected DB2 structures live in a perpetual state of 'failed persistent'. Many CF structures are deleted by XCF when their exploiters go away. For the sake of DB2 recovery, associated

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-12-02 Thread J O Skip Robinson
at 10:57 PM, J O Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com> said: >MVCIN was indeed a useful instruction. I encountered it (IIRC) on a >4381. I assumed that, like typical new instructions, it would stick >around for the duration. I was later shocked to discover that it had >be

Re: What's a "ton" of JCL? [was:RE: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?]

2015-12-02 Thread J O Skip Robinson
a "ton" of JCL? [was:RE: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?] On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:02:01 -0600, Dana Mitchell wrote: >On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 23:03:59 +0000, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > >>(This whole season feels like Friday.) A doughnut, on the o

Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-12-02 Thread J O Skip Robinson
l very much > > Lizette > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson > > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:09 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >

Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-12-02 Thread J O Skip Robinson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] User Cats and Replication Sites Touche. We had a near catastrophic catalog problem some time back. Of course the replicated copy faithfully mirrored

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-12-01 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Timeframe was 1980 plus or minus. I was a true novice sysprog and kept an arm's length from OS innards. It was during that two-year gig that MVS/SP was announced, so not likely available just yet. I only remember being impressed with the clever workaround that kept the Amdahl useful. P.S. The

Re: What's a "ton" of JCL? [was:RE: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?]

2015-12-01 Thread J O Skip Robinson
(This whole season feels like Friday.) A doughnut, on the other hand, requires the hole for its very definition. The hole supplies no mass or nutritional value, but without it the thing is not a doughnut. By contrast a punch card requires the solid part to give the holes meaning; they would

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-12-01 Thread J O Skip Robinson
MVCIN was indeed a useful instruction. I encountered it (IIRC) on a 4381. I assumed that, like typical new instructions, it would stick around for the duration. I was later shocked to discover that it had been abandoned on a siding somewhere along the railway to the future. Probably still there

Re: IBM Automatic (COBOL) Binary Optimizer Now Availabile

2015-11-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
In early discussions of this facility at SHARE, several customers owned up to the iffy practice of sharing load libraries across boundaries such that shared PDSEs would be unworkable. This practice is fixable, of course, but a considerable amount of work might be required in the application

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-11-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I'm reaching back a long way to stretch the notion of 'straightforward', but here goes. When I was a novice sysprog, my shop had an Amdahl. MVS at that time predated 'system product'. (Way back.) IBM shipped a new level of MVS that executed instructions not present our Amdahl. Amdahl responded

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-11-29 Thread J O Skip Robinson
a z10. My boss wants something more user-friendly than a S0C1. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Straightf

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-11-29 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I confess to not having slogged through this thread, but from the beginning I've wondered why no one has suggested the static system symbol System symbols can be queried from pretty much any environment. They're set automatically at IPL. Maybe OP needs more detail... . . . J.O.Skip Robinson

Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-11-29 Thread J O Skip Robinson
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:53:09 +, J O Skip Robinson wrote: >Nothing beats replication, the more the better. Hmmm - unless you happen to have a critical error in the source. Replicating that quietly everywhere can leave you with non-IPLable systems *everywhere*. Which you may not find out ab

Re: (External):Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-11-25 Thread J O Skip Robinson
In order to make a 'foreign' catalog available, I don't believe you DEFINE RECAT because the catalog already exists. IMPORT CONNECT (whereby you name the volume) creates all the necessary pointers in the current system's master catalog. Furthermore, IMPORT CONNECT does not require that the

Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-11-25 Thread J O Skip Robinson
(Reposting with edited subject. Sorry that I forget to massage it so often.) In order to make a 'foreign' catalog available, I don't believe you DEFINE RECAT because the catalog already exists. IMPORT CONNECT (whereby you name the volume) creates all the necessary pointers in the current

Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-11-25 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:09 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: User Cats and Replication Sites > > (Reposting with edited subject. Sorry that I forg

Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-11-25 Thread J O Skip Robinson
helpful. Thanks all very much Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:09 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: User Cats and

Re: SMPE apply excluding certain FMID's?

2015-11-23 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Being able to install maintenance separately can be very important depending on your shop's organization and the distribution of duties among (even a small number of) folks. I see two classes of components: 1) Those closely akin to z/OS that install on and migrate with sysres. 2) Those not in

Re: (External):Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
None of my cards has been chipified, surprising considering the size of the issuing institutions. I shopped yesterday at an upscale supermarket using my magstripe card. The clerk pointed out that the card machine included a chip reader but allowed that it had not yet been activated, so I would

Re: (External):Re: Deleting all members of a pds

2015-11-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Can also be accomplished with PDS[85] command or StarTool product. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: TSO RECEIVE under UNIX Rexx (was: REXX-question)

2015-11-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
The OUTPUT command (at least here) shows only Held output. XMITted files must be in (non-held) Output. If I try to see my file via OUTPUT, I get IKJ56339I NO HELD OUTPUT FOR JOB my-userid . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program

Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry (also RECEIVE)

2015-11-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
, November 19, 2015 2:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry (also RECEIVE) On 2015-11-17 15:23, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > An XMITted file sits in the JES output queue in a designated class (usually > B) with the recipient's userid a

Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry

2015-11-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I haven't experimented with this, but going with NOSCRATCH is likely to cause big problems with DASD GDGs. A data set residing on an SMS-managed volume must be cataloged. It cannot just sit there uncataloged. Irresistible force meets unmovable object. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern

Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

2015-11-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's? In <sn1pr0101mb1520b1e7af45d8e84a4d2023ce...@sn1pr0101mb1520.prod.exchangelabs.com>, on 11/18/2015 at 05:19 PM, J O Skip Ro

Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

2015-11-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Since IBM does define any model larger than a Mod-9, usage of other Mod-xx terms is user defined. I would think, however, that the historical derivation of model terminology is based on capacity relative to a (mythical?) Mod-1. In any case, a Mod-9 is 3x the size of a Mod-3, so I would expect a

Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

2015-11-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
So now I was moved to look at our actual sizes. Mod-9: 10016 cyls Mod-27: 30050 cyls (3x would be 30048 cyls) Mod-54: 60101 cyls (6x would be 60096 cyls) I'm not a storage guy; just reporting what I see. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler

Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry

2015-11-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
This happened some years ago, different incident. We had a nightly job that ran on four different parallel sysplexes to [list catalog stuff]. Don’t remember the details. Essentially the same job ran on three sysplexes in about 2 minutes. On the fourth it ran over 20 minutes. I looked at the

Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry

2015-11-17 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Unlike CLIST, REXX is tricky for handling subcommands and prompt responses, which need to be QUEUEd (or PUSHed) onto the stack before the main command is issued. This can be problematic when the response cannot be known in advance of issuing the command. For example, the data set name to use

Re: (External):Re: Moving a Sysplex

2015-11-17 Thread J O Skip Robinson
sday, November 17, 2015 2:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Moving a Sysplex Thanks for the information. Do you remember how long your outage was? We're being told (using one solution) that the outage will be on the order of two hours. Mark Jacobs > J O Skip Robinson <mailto:jo.

Re: Moving a Sysplex

2015-11-17 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Others may know something I don't, but I would answer No. I don't believe you can run a (parallel) sysplex over that distance because of CF link limitations. Furthermore, assuming that you could somehow get one sysplex member sharing across that distance, you would have to switch from using

Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry (also RECEIVE)

2015-11-17 Thread J O Skip Robinson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry (also RECEIVE) On 2015-11-17 12:00, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > Unlike CLIST, REXX is tricky for handling subcommands and pro

Re: (External):Re: RSU APPLY

2015-11-16 Thread J O Skip Robinson
In a memorable scene from Lethal Weapon 3, Mel Gibson and Rene Russo compare battle scars. Many of us could easily step into that scene and compete. RSU* might represent some of our scars. OTOH RSU* might have prevented some of those scars. Maintenance is an art, not a science. There's no magic

Re: (External):Re: Applications in a Sysplex/CICSplex

2015-11-13 Thread J O Skip Robinson
We have an application that utilizes an RYO record locking mechanism. I believe that it predates even LPAR, when all CICS regions ran on a single OS image that occupied an entire CEC. The locks live in a CSA table, which is great for regions running in the same image but problematic for regions

Re: (External):Re: IPL wait state

2015-11-13 Thread J O Skip Robinson
z/OS does indeed behave this way. Every volume is initialized with the non-sysres wait state code. This is how IBM can document the consequence of IPLing from a non-sysres volume. The wait state code gets overwritten by properly formed IPL text. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California

Re: Premature SYMBOL substitution in SYSIN?

2015-11-13 Thread J O Skip Robinson
A Friday musing. We at SHARE pounded on IBM for years to implement symbol substitution in batch. IBM's defense of the status quo was that unlike STC and TSO, where execution is immediate on a known system, a batch job could wander all around the JES network on its way from submit to execute.

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I can contribute one factoid to this discussion. We use IBM's TWS for job scheduling. Because of the scheduling's extreme sensitivity to time stamps and because of a negative incident we had a few years back, we've been accustomed to bouncing TWS shortly after the 'fallback' time change. This

Re: Question on IMS and dr volume backups

2015-11-09 Thread J O Skip Robinson
This may be OT for your actual question, but an alarm went off in my head while reading this post. If you carefully shut down your systems before copying to your DR site, you may well find yourself in a world of hurt in the event of a real disaster. If systems die a sudden death without

Re: (External):Re: OMVS mount failure

2015-11-03 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Too much time on my hands. BPMTEXT EF096058 : Description: HFS-compat mount, - error attaching aggregate or was found not to be HFS-compat. Action: Ensure

Re: (External):Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

2015-11-02 Thread J O Skip Robinson
After grousing about terminology in my previous post, I need to elaborate. I used 'console command' as a straw dog for API. Actually various groups in SHARE have been clamoring for *decades* for improved APIs, particularly to facilitate automation. What we have been offered for the most part is

Re: 'Secure' 'Remote' access/control of the HMC(s)

2015-11-02 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Brian Valentine has presented a session at SHARE called "Top Ten Things You Should be Doing on Your HMC but You're Not". It includes security tips. In our case, we come into the company network remotely via VPN, which defines the various applications that we (by userid) are allowed to access.

Re: (External):Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-10-31 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Not mentioned in the article is a motivation I heard from childhood: tending one's garden. As part of the general war effort, the populace were encouraged to grow at least some of their own food in order to free up commercial agriculture for the troops. These so-called Victory Gardens were

Re: (External):Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

2015-10-31 Thread J O Skip Robinson
(It must be Friday somewhere.) My first encounter with APIs was a (likely fictitious) anecdote about an engineer who went to a programmer and asked for a program to calculate a square root. "Are you sure that's all you want? Just a calculation?" The engineer insisted that's all he needed. The

Re: (External):Re: HMC/Browser access and JAVA

2015-10-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
If the SHARE Singalong were still running in high gear, we could write an anti-romantic ballad about the despair of 'Java compatibility'. I would suggest that each new Java release contains antibodies to all previous releases and--of course--to all future releases. The love doctor will advise

Re: (External):Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-10-26 Thread J O Skip Robinson
OP did not state whether GMT is set to UTC or local. I would have thought by now shops would have converted to UTC. I understand that the hit is much bigger for shops located in the Eastern Hemisphere because the change requires shutting down--once--for a prodigious period, but in the Western

Re: (External):Re: Redirect or hide IEBCOPY output when using the TSO RECEIVE Command

2015-10-24 Thread J O Skip Robinson
The sysout keyword goes on the response to the RECEIVE prompt, e.g. da(myds) shr sysout(x) . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -Original

Re: (External):Re: z/OS version by Sysres Module

2015-10-23 Thread J O Skip Robinson
OP asked literally about 'z/OS version'. Several fine answers followed. But if OP is actually interested in something like 'maintenance level', then the answer is that nothing will tell you that unless you have zapped some literal into a user-modifiable area such as (for example) NUCLEUS. We do

Re: (External):Re: Unicode Query

2015-10-23 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I don't understand the reference to IPLTEXT, which is not part of the fix. Otherwise, as already noted, you could just copy the three module (plus one alias!) to the appropriate libraries and IPL. We have been known to take such an action, but there has to be a good reason not to clone the

Re: (External):Re: Is there an alternative to SYSDSN(fully.qual.dataset.name) that DOES NOT Recall Migrated Datasets

2015-10-23 Thread J O Skip Robinson
The requirement is 'onerous' if you're determined--or required--to run a Rexx in a non-TSO environment such as batch via PGM=IRXJCL. The Rexx manual documents a number of functions as 'TSO/E extensions' that are usable only if PGM=IKJEFTxx. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison

Re: (External):Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I've never heard that a severance package is required by law in the US, although it would likely be a state issue rather than Federal. From war stories I've encountered I'd say almost certainly not. Large responsible companies usually offer something. Terms vary, but it's designed to keep torch

Re: (External):Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
severance and employment are taxed differently I think severance is at higher tax rate Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2015, at 5:21 PM, J O Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com> > wrote: > > I've never heard that a severance package is required by law in the US, > alt

Re: (External):Re: Subscribe to RACF-L

2015-10-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
A new colleague recently had great difficulty subscribing to IBM-MAIN. The problem turned out to be on our side but not specific to IBM-MAIN. Some time ago a filter was put in place to reject email whose Envelope Sender was blank. This was supposedly to ward off unsolicited, unwanted list

Re: (External):Re: Bookmanager BUILD and z/OS V2.2

2015-10-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
A more outrageous example. Some years ago management decided that we did not really need Netview, so they refused to order the next upgrade that was actually quite a bit more expensive. BUILDMCS came to the rescue. By comparison with Book Mgr, Netview is very complicated. Had elements in

Re: IBM's PDUU utility

2015-10-20 Thread J O Skip Robinson
PDDU is totally new to me. For years I've used PUTDOC to send all manner of doc to IBM. If someone has used both, could you post a short compare-and-contrast review? . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager

Re: (External):Re: Logrec and EREP

2015-10-20 Thread J O Skip Robinson
There have been times when I preferred to send raw unformatted LOGREC data if only to create a smaller attachment. But I've never found any way to select a from-to range of raw data, so I end up running EREP just to make use of selection criteria. We all send 'raw' SVC dumps, right? No one

Re: (External):Re: Coupling facility users

2015-10-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Lizette, I'm not sure what you're looking for. CF Sizer does calculations for 'Enhanced Catalog Sharing' and for 'DFSMShsm Common Recall Queue'. Is there some other function you're trying to size? . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS

Re: (External):Re: AW: Re: IEAVAPE2/IEAVPSE2 another address space

2015-10-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I've known Tom for twenty years and never knew what the 'G' was for. OTOH I get address as 'JO' all the time. A sure mark of spam. ;-) . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile

Re: (External):Re: AW: Re: IEAVAPE2/IEAVPSE2 another address space

2015-10-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
: (External):Re: AW: Re: IEAVAPE2/IEAVPSE2 another address space So you must go by Skip...? On Monday, October 19, 2015, J O Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com> wrote: > I've known Tom for twenty years and never knew what the 'G' was for. > OTOH I get address as 'JO' all the

Problem subscribing to IBM-Main

2015-10-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I don't know where to direct this. A colleague is having trouble subscribing to the List. He can successfully send INFO IBM-MAIN, but when he sends SUBSCRIBE, nothing happens. No reply at all from UA.EDU. His userid is on the same corporate domain as mine. OTOH he has subscribed from his

Re: (External):Re: Problem subscribing to IBM-Main

2015-10-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Looks like I jumped the gun a bit. Our email guru found something on our side he hadn't noticed. Dinesh finally got an acknowledgment from his SUBSCRIBE request. Waiting to see if he actually gets postings delivered... . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon

Re: IBM

2015-10-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
We have sort of the opposite 'problem'. Our network security people run some kind of probe against every device found on our network. When it pokes the HMC, he calls home and reports a possible intruder. Then Support Center opens an incident and our CE gets dragged in. I tried to get the HMCs

Re: (External):HMC/Browser access and JAVA

2015-10-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Both functions are working for me today. Java level: java version "1.8.0_60" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_60-b27) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.60-b23, mixed mode) We have had Java problems off and on but finally standardized on this version after upgrading all HMCs to

Re: (External):Re: Unicode services Red alert

2015-10-16 Thread J O Skip Robinson
The PTF does not update any macro, but as Peter says, it's not a programming interface anyway. One more point. The NUCLEUS element CUNMIIPL has the alias IEAVNPUN. If you choose to put the fix elements in place 'manually' ahead of the next IPL, don't forget the alias. . . . J.O.Skip

Re: (External):Re: Unicode services Red alert

2015-10-16 Thread J O Skip Robinson
OK, what Peter said. I get a C- for the explanation part, but I think the method part is sound. We're now running R13 on sandbox with the fix in place. V2R1 to follow soon. A note on circumvention options. If you are truly out of harm's way for this problem, I don't suppose you have to do

Re: (External):Re: IBM Mobile Systems Remote

2015-10-16 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Remote access--literally getting to an application from outside the glass house--is not intrinsically risky. I'm logged on to my system now from my dining room table. To get to any application--including HMC--I must first VPN into the company network. That requires several hoop jumping steps,

Re: (External):Re: IBM

2015-10-16 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Gotta agree. That wording is not quite the same thing as saying 'there are no back doors'. On balance, however, I usually impugn such wobbly subtext to imprecise verbiage, not to finely crafted misdirection. I give IBM a pass on the statement. But then again, I'm easy. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson

Re: (External):Re: Unicode services Red alert

2015-10-15 Thread J O Skip Robinson
We have installed the R13 PTF and tested with assistance from IBM. To see your vulnerability, use IPCS ACTIVE or Omegamon MLST or Mainview (???) to display data currently in the UCCB control block at +10: 10?+220?+3C?+10 Before the PTF, you will see something like CFA83DBE 87F18D69 , which is

Re: (External):Re: Unicode services Red alert

2015-10-15 Thread J O Skip Robinson
On 2015-10-15, at 21:06, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > I'm piecing together various clues. It appears to me that: > > 1. The UCCB is a defined control block, mapped in several (!) MACLIB members > such as CUNBAIDF. > A more modular design might map it in one macro and call it from

Re: Unicode services Red alert

2015-10-15 Thread J O Skip Robinson
-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 4:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: (External):Re: Unicode

Re: (External):Re: Unicode services Red alert

2015-10-15 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Subject: (External):Re: Unicode services Red alert On 2015-10-15 17:37, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > I think I received the following link internally rather than from IBM-MAIN. > It's a good discussion of the issue. > > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA48941 >

Re: (External):Re: What is a request block prefix?

2015-10-13 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Abend FDB indicates an invalid SVC call. The SVC number is x'DB', or 219, which is in the range of installation defined SVCs. In other words, it's not an official IBM SVC. Either the SVC environment was set up improperly, or it was not an actual SVC call but execution of code that looks like an

Re: (External):Re: Dell - EMC

2015-10-12 Thread J O Skip Robinson
This is reminiscent of Sun buying STK and getting into a business they clearly did not understand. If the pattern holds, Larry Ellison will postpone buying his next island and throw a barrelful of cash at Dell. That he does not understand mainframe hardware either is no obstacle for him. . .

Subscribing to IBM-MAIN

2015-10-08 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Two of my colleagues are trying to join IBM-MAIN. Neither one is successful. Both have sent notes to LISTSERV trying to following the INFO directive: SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN What's with the angle brackets? Required? Prohibited? Nothing seems to work. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I'm guessing that most shops have some STORCLASS that bypasses at least some SMS rules. We have NULL. That bypasses volser assignment, but not all rules. In the absence of ISMF, you really need to get direction from your storage admin. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
So you're getting STORAGECLASS SCLARGE MANAGEMENTCLASS--MCLARGE DATACLASS -OTHER These are all installation defined names. (I don't believe that SMS natively provides default names, but I'm not a storage admin.) There is *no way* to guess what name you could

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
, but getting an answer to such a non-emergency question may take days or more. Hence my attempt to find a way to do it a bit sooner from the expertise on this list. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson

Re: (External):So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

2015-09-29 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Alas. The sysprog that Time forgot. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Testing with dates in the future

2015-09-23 Thread J O Skip Robinson
The ability to IPL a system with a non-current date--past or future--was a response to the myriad problems faced by all mainframe customers preparing for Y2K. Certainly there are products that enable *simulation* of non-current dates, but the h/w capability is free and universal. That is, the

Re: Accept nothing less than Z

2015-09-21 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Well I for one am not voting for Fiorina until she gets this whole thing straightened out. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -Original

Re: Downloading from Shopz

2015-09-21 Thread J O Skip Robinson
IIRC after some big digit calculations, I borrowed a couple of Mod 27s but never actually needed the second one for SererPac work. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile

Re: Recovery routine for ICHRTX00

2015-09-21 Thread J O Skip Robinson
ant to put it in a production environment. Thanks again and best regards, Leo -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 5:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Recove

Re: Recovery routine for ICHRTX00

2015-09-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
My view of recovery routines may have been jaded by an experience early in my career. We sysprogs were implored to debug an application that was taking truly bizarre abends. One repeatable abend was in a DFSORT routine. Another was in a printer error handling routine. Trouble was, it was a

Re: Recovery routine for ICHRTX00

2015-09-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
This may sound heretical, but I lean against recovery actions for system exits. In most cases, the environment in which a system-defined exit runs is protected already. Messages are issued, dumps are taken, and some semblance of order is restored. In many cases the exit is disabled so that

Re: MPF message processing not started for msg

2015-09-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
When you get 'terminated at end of memory', all bets are off. This generally happens when the address space has run out of storage to the point that recovery routines cannot run. No recovery, no message processing, no preservation of sysout, etc. Your MPF entries indicate user exit processing.

Re: Dataset enqueue, how to find the culprit.

2015-09-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Well I'll be darned. I had not looked carefully at OP's message. That is *exactly* the context of the enqueue case I posted generically. SDAA004I is NDM or ConnectDirect depending on your perspective. We seem to have a lot of these self-clashes in our environment. I have not talked with the

Re: IPCS BLS18028I message suppression

2015-09-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I have no particular insight into this design, but I know a few things about TPUT vs. PUTLINE. For one thing, TPUT does not even work at all in batch. Neither can it be captured by OUTTRAP in foreground or background. PUTLINE works for both. So from the evidence presented, I would guess that

Re: Dataset enqueue, how to find the culprit.

2015-09-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
As others have pointed out, enqueue is often a fleeting problem. By the time you get around to looking into it, it's long gone. After experiencing this problem a while back, we instructed our automation product to issue a D GRS command at the time of the conflict based on msgid IKJ56225I.

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

2015-09-16 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I have pitched this idea before. In a process that predates me in this shop, it was recognized that quite apart from auditors' poking around, we sysprogs needed a way to track a 'system package' at it migrated from one system to the next throughout the enterprise. The choice was to attach an

Re: RSU or maintenance level on a system

2015-09-16 Thread J O Skip Robinson
We may be zapping our label in NUC at an unconventional spot. IPLINFO does not show it. Here's what we see at IPL time. IEA008I R13V PARMS FOLLOW FOR z/OS 01.13.00 HBB7780 . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager

Re: IPL Shutdown Problem

2015-09-16 Thread J O Skip Robinson
The problem is OP's shutdown logic. Not all tasks need to be shut down, and those that do not run under JES2 cannot be shut down using JES2 commands. The message IEE707I $DA,XNOT EXECUTED indicates that JES2 itself has already terminated and therefore cannot be called upon to shut

Re: SMPE -removal of USERMOD ++HOLD created instream

2015-09-15 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I thought that ++HOLD records always had a date, which the corresponding ++RELEASE had to match. I just looked at a random held IBM PTF. It has a date. My user hold records have dates. Where did your ++HOLD come from? Could there be a construction error? . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern

Re: SMPE -removal of USERMOD ++HOLD created instream

2015-09-14 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I’m not sure exactly what you're doing, but maybe this will help. I create my own ++HOLD records occasionally to prevent a PTF from installing before a corresponding 'conditioning PTF' is running on all sharing systems. Haven't seen one for a while, but these have typically been for a sysplex

Re: SYMUP - Umod

2015-09-14 Thread J O Skip Robinson
REWORK can be any string you choose up to eight characters. I use REWORK on all of my usermods. I use the sysmod update date in Julian format, e.g. 2015157, which I like because that shows up in an SMPE display of the sysmod. This date format (seven characters) allows you to add an eighth

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