Re: Access to IBM Z/OS z/VM Documentation

2013-10-29 Thread Scott Ford
John, Almost as funny as I heard a data center within a mile of a river , was housed in a basement, guess what happened, because they were in a flood plainwhatever happened to a four letter word ...p l a n Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-29 Thread David Crayford
On 29/10/2013 4:04 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote: But I now see from what Mr. Gilmore has been saying that I am perhaps wanting too much from a computer language. I will need to depend on the programmer actually doing the proper things in all of his/her programs. So that when I use chorizo in English

Re: Getting the SMF time

2013-10-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Donald Likens wrote: I figured out the problem... The SMFTIME is obtained by TIME BIN which returns BIN returns the time of day as an unsigned 32-bit binary number with the low-order bit equivalent to 0.01 second. The second word of the time value returned is zero. STCK time is based on micro

Re: Is there currently a way to access MongoDB from z/OS LE languages?

2013-10-29 Thread Timothy Sipples
David Crayford writes: I wonder if there is a market for mainframe legacy applications to access NoSQL data stores? Of course. Case in point: the IBM DB2 Analytics Accelerator. The PureData System for Analytics which powers the IDAA is, as it happens, a NoSQL data store. However, applications

Re: Linux on System z (IFL) and Spares

2013-10-29 Thread Timothy Sipples
Bob Shannon writes: Each book has to have at least one configured PU, so the minimum configured PUs for the CEC would be four. Is that true uniquely for the 2827-HA1? It's not true for, say, the 2827-H43 as far as I know. Single engine 2827-H43 machines are reasonably common. Could you be

AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Michael Knigge
Steve, I don't know what's wrong with SPFPRO on Win 8, but maybe it is time for a change. You may want to have a look at SPF/365 (well known as SPF/SE) that is now selled at a much more reduced price. The subscription for one year is at 25 $ US (you can use it after the year, but you get no

Re: example assembler program to update via stow userdata in directory of pds

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Berg
You can only update in the ISPF stats format with LMMSTATS. In this case I suppose there is a whole another format that is needed. Best Regards Thomas Berg ___ Thomas Berg Specialist zOS\RQM\IT Delivery SWEDBANK AB (Publ)

Re: Getting the SMF time

2013-10-29 Thread Barry Merrill
Some of us find SAS's INPUT @3 SMFTIME SMFSTAMP8.; FORMAT SMFTIME DATETIME21.2; PUT SMFTIME=; easier and it prints 27OCT2013:13:14:15.99 Barry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent:

Re: Getting the SMF time

2013-10-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Barry Merrill wrote: Some of us find SAS's INPUT @3 SMFTIME SMFSTAMP8.; FORMAT SMFTIME DATETIME21.2; PUT SMFTIME=; easier and it prints 27OCT2013:13:14:15.99 Indeed, it is very easy and there are many ways to skin this cat with the name SMFTIME. :-) Or if you're a hunter, aim for the

Tape drive speed

2013-10-29 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, I was asked to estimate the change in the time it would take to backup disks when moving from one type of tape drive and cartridge to another. We currently have 3590H’s and it takes about 30 minutes to back up a 3390-54. What would happen if we convert to TS1120’s TS1130’s or TS1140’s. Our

Re: Is there currently a way to access MongoDB from z/OS LE languages?

2013-10-29 Thread David Crayford
On 29/10/2013 4:47 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: David Crayford writes: I wonder if there is a market for mainframe legacy applications to access NoSQL data stores? Of course. Case in point: the IBM DB2 Analytics Accelerator. The PureData System for Analytics which powers the IDAA is, as it

Re: example assembler program to update via stow userdata in directory of pds

2013-10-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
I found this thread from 1998 which references a 1996 thread: http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9806L=rexxlistP=5824 With the following REXX. I think it might be adapted to the OP requirements. From what I understand it is the USERDATA that needs to be updated and saved. Does

Re: example assembler program to update via stow userdata in directory of pds

2013-10-29 Thread don isenstadt
Thanks Dave, I'll try to modify what you've sent me .. I don't know why the crlf got left out but that will be the easiest to fix and as I do that I will be reading the code. -don -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Tape drive speed

2013-10-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-10-29 12:54, גדי בן אבי pisze: Hi, I was asked to estimate the change in the time it would take to backup disks when moving from one type of tape drive and cartridge to another. We currently have 3590H’s and it takes about 30 minutes to back up a 3390-54. What would happen if we

Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Steve Thompson
digest entry From:Steve Comstock Has anybody gotten SPFPRO to run on Windows 8.1 (or even 8.0, for that matter)? Looks like I'll have to give up one of my favorite tools. SNIPPAGE Steve et al: Because of problems I get when updating Windows, I generally run Windows under VMware on a

Re: Tape drive speed

2013-10-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
One other consideration is if you are encrypting the data or not. Encryption will also slow down the read/write of data. If you are encrypting, will it be at the hardware level, the tape drive does the encryption, or at the software level, you have a product like EKM/TLKM. I found that in an

Re: Tape drive speed

2013-10-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
If you have the FICON cards available, do it now regardless. For any of the other solutions, it would be silly (if even supported) to put them on ESCON. This is a no-brainer. You will be very impressed by this alone. I just reviewed a decade-old presentation that had FICON over 5 times faster

Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Klan, Rob (RET-DAY)
Hi Which is the most ISPF like? In reviewing Dave'ss page at: http://www.planetmvs.com/spfeditor/ I also learn of uni-SPF by http://www.wrkgrp.com/index.html ? Just curious -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?)

2013-10-29 Thread Charles Mills
What is a significant, relevant example of a subset implementation of Unicode? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 10:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Lance D. Jackson
Sorry - when I originally replied to Steve's question, I didn't realize that he was running such a dated version of SPFPC. I'm successfully running SPF/SE v6.0 Graphic Edition under Win 8.0 -Original Message- From: Klan, Rob (RET-DAY) [mailto:rob.k...@reedelsevier.com] Sent: Tuesday,

AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Michael Knigge
Rob, uni-SPF is much more like ISPF than SPF/SE - due to the fact that SPF/SE is missing REXX Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?)

2013-10-29 Thread David Crayford
On 29/10/2013 8:48 PM, Charles Mills wrote: What is a significant, relevant example of a subset implementation of Unicode? I'm guessing that John is referring to UTF-32 or UTF-16 and subsets would be encodings with fewer bits. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Lance D. Jackson
Thanks for that insight Michael. -Original Message- From: Michael Knigge [mailto:michael.kni...@set-software.de] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 09:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Rob,uni-SPF is much more like ISPF than SPF/SE - due

Cpc name variable in IEASYMxx

2013-10-29 Thread Jorge Garcia
Hello: We want to add a new variable in our IEASYMxx. A new SITE variable with the last two positions cpc name. The problem is that the HWNAME variable doesn't exist in IEASYMxx and we couldn't obtain the last two positions of this variable. We have defined HWNAME in LOADxx. The new

Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?)

2013-10-29 Thread John Gilmore
David's inference was on the mark. The rationale for the query is less clear to me. Minimal acquaintance with the history andf literature of Unicode would have acq John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN

zIIP simulation

2013-10-29 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi everyone, Does anyone know of a tool that will help us decide if we benefit from adding a zIIP engine to our system? Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-10-29 Thread John McKown
Ref: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2w1b0/20.2 quote The SYS1.PARMLIB member IEAOPTxx provides statement PROJECTCPU. Specifying the PROJECTCPU parameter allows you to project *zIIP* (and zAAP) consumptionwhen a *zIIP* (or zAAP) processor is not yet defined to the

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-10-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Gadi, If you are looking for the $$$ savings that would be achieved by acquiring one or more zIIPs, then I strongly suggest you contact Al Sherkow (a...@sherkow.com) about LCS. I and others have cost-justified both the LCS and zIIP acquisition costs due to the savings achieved. As usual, YMMV.

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-10-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
It will depend on your workload. More and more functions on the Mainframe are using zIIP engines. However, they are not always documented. PROJECTCPU will help you see if a zIIP might be useful. This Techdoc is helpful for PROJECTCPU

Re: SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead

2013-10-29 Thread David Crayford
On 29/10/2013 5:37 AM, Gerhard Adam wrote: As for Google and many of these other companies, they are certainly adequate for the markets they are in, what what technology are they exploiting? Are they demonstrably cheaper to run? Do they require less staff? In short, what is the basis for

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-10-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-10-29 14:32, גדי בן אבי pisze: Hi everyone, Does anyone know of a tool that will help us decide if we benefit from adding a zIIP engine to our system? One of the methods not mentione here is to get zIIP for evaluation. Yes, it is possible to activate zIIP for a period of time - a

Re: SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead

2013-10-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes: Lynn Wheeler's numbers are arithmetically correct, but they are also problematic. Mainframe channels perform multiple concurrent I/O operations that are not adequately reflected in them. my references have been IBM's published numbers for the z196

Re: Access to IBM Z/OS z/VM Documentation

2013-10-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes: Thanks for the pointers. No offense, but I still don't much like InfoCenter. I may learn to like it. Right after I learn to like Lima beans. So, IBM pubs center doesn't have an HA setup. Interesting. I guess they're busy restoring. Have they

Re: SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead

2013-10-29 Thread David Crayford
On 29/10/2013 11:23 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:47:19 -0500, John Gilmore wrote: Lynn Wheeler's numbers are arithmetically correct, but they are also problematic. Mainframe channels perform multiple concurrent I/O operations that are not adequately reflected in them. And

Re: Cpc name variable in IEASYMxx

2013-10-29 Thread Jorge Garcia
I detail more the requirements for this configuration: - Many LOADxx - One IEASYMxx The target is execute a ipl in the lpar in the main site and disaster recovery site with the same IEASYMxx (for less maintenance) but with different LOADxx Regards

Re: Cpc name variable in IEASYMxx

2013-10-29 Thread Richard Peurifoy
On 10/29/2013 8:07 AM, Jorge Garcia wrote: Hello: We want to add a new variable in our IEASYMxx. A new SITE variable with the last two positions cpc name. The problem is that the HWNAME variable doesn't exist in IEASYMxx and we couldn't obtain the last two positions of this variable. We

Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?)

2013-10-29 Thread Charles Mills
UTF-16 and UTF-32 are not subsets, and they are not implementations. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Unicode

Setting Up a TEST sysplex

2013-10-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
It has been quite some time since I set up a test sysplex. Does anyone have a document, spreadsheet, project plan, outline laying around with the mojor considerations? I am try to save some time, hence the request. Saves trying to recall paged out memory from aging brain cells. :) Bob

Re: SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead

2013-10-29 Thread Lynn Wheeler
On 10/28/13 14:47, John Gilmore wrote: Lynn Wheeler's numbers are arithmetically correct, but they are also problematic. Mainframe channels perform multiple concurrent I/O operations that are not adequately reflected in them. my references have been IBM's published numbers for the z196 peak

Re: SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead

2013-10-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes: Part of the issue with serial fibre-optic for fibre channel standard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibre_Channel and similar work going on about the same time with scalable coherent interface (that I also got dragged into)

Re: Getting the SMF time

2013-10-29 Thread Skip Robinson
Speaking of time: US Daylight Saving Time ends this Sunday November 3. We all get to relive one hour. Good for sleeping, but problematic for some software. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office

Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Graham Hobbs
Is the macro language still C? - Original Message - From: Michael Knigge michael.kni...@set-software.de Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:18 AM Subject: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Steve, I don't know

Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?)

2013-10-29 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2013-10-29 16:29, John Gilmore wrote: sharp, acerbic disagreement---has a place here. Many here would disagree with you on that point! -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507

Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?)

2013-10-29 Thread John Gilmore
Acerbically perhaps? John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?)

2013-10-29 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2013-10-29 16:44, John Gilmore wrote: Acerbically perhaps? Hopefully not! ;) -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507 --

Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?)

2013-10-29 Thread Bass, Walter W
Indubitably! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?) Acerbically perhaps? John Gilmore,

Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?)

2013-10-29 Thread Charles Mills
Enjoy your word games. Have fun. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Unicode (was: ... open source ...?) Acerbically

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAAJSdjgyhi03G1nw3MAiT06fMG1Y-=25wpwuuqpq8puga9x...@mail.gmail.com, on 10/28/2013 at 02:08 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: I wasn't wanting to translate words. But when we do a comparison on the z, we basically just do a byte-for-byte compare. While CLC et all basically

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8360084032982097.wa.zatlas1yahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 10/27/2013 at 08:00 AM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com said: because they do not have C and cannot build it. Isn't PCRE written in C? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8164757574306449.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 10/28/2013 at 03:15 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: It's built into LE for z/OS. Locale-sensitive compares, perhaps, but not compares that will treat a word in the middle of a string as having a different locale from

Re: PL/1 and z/OS 2.1

2013-10-29 Thread Gary Jacek
Hi Paul If you are using PL/I for MVS and VM V1.1.1 and you attempt to rebind the resulting PL/1 modules with MQ V7, your bind will likely fail. MQ V7 version of CMQEPP contains declarations for many new entry points that are not supported in the CICS or IMS environments, thus the problem. A

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:39:46 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Locale-sensitive compares, perhaps, but not compares that will treat a word in the middle of a string as having a different locale from the rest of the string. It could be worse than that. How would you compare two strings,

Re: SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead

2013-10-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
dcrayf...@gmail.com (David Crayford) writes: But is that unique to a mainframe? When you compare it to a POWER system or whatever Oracle are flogging these days it doesn't stand out. Even commodity servers hooked up to an enterprise class HBA can handle massive amounts of I/O throughput. re:

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 October 2013 19:36, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: The locale-dependent services will treat a string as being in a single locale, so if you are using an English locale then How much does the chorizo cost? will sort according to US rules. If you are using the

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On October 28 2013 19:36, Seymour J. Metz (Shmuel ) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net said: [Listserv decided that my message had already been posted, and suggests changing a few characters. I have done so, in a way that I trust does not change the meaning of anything that matters.] The locale

Enterprise COBOL V5, Program Objects, PDSE datasets

2013-10-29 Thread Tom Ross
Greetings! All of these discussions of the new requirement that COBOL load libraries be in PDSE datasets has been interesting. It made me realize that I was not clear on the whole story, we started out with the PO and PDSE assumption and went from there, from my perspective. Now that we have

Re: SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead

2013-10-29 Thread Scott Ford
Lynn, Still old adage the channels are slower than the process, hence usually a bottleneck. My past life before development I was a Comm guy ,hardware and software..saw of lot of bottlenecks Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Oct 28,

Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Clark Morris
On 29 Oct 2013 05:28:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Hi Which is the most ISPF like? In reviewing Dave'ss page at: http://www.planetmvs.com/spfeditor/ I also learn of uni-SPF by http://www.wrkgrp.com/index.html ? My recollection of UNI-SPF on HP-UX in 2001-2002 is that it was a

Re: SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead

2013-10-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
scott_j_f...@yahoo.com (Scott Ford) writes: Still old adage the channels are slower than the process, hence usually a bottleneck. My past life before development I was a Comm guy ,hardware and software..saw of lot of bottlenecks re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#94 SHARE Blog: News

Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Steve Comstock
On 10/28/2013 4:15 PM, Dan Skomsky wrote: I have it running Win 98 mode on Windows 7 Pro 32 bit and tried it successfully on the Windows 8 pre-release 32 bit. Hmm. No luck on win 8.1 64-bit. -Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Steve Comstock
On 10/28/2013 11:42 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: Steve, I realize that this isn't exactly the answer you wanted, but While I can get my copy to work on Windows 8.1 (I run it in compatibility mode by right clicking on the executable and choose the compatibility option), I have (as of a couple

Re: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-29 Thread Steve Comstock
On 10/29/2013 3:18 AM, Michael Knigge wrote: Steve, I don't know what's wrong with SPFPRO on Win 8, but maybe it is time for a change. You may want to have a look at SPF/365 (well known as SPF/SE) that is now selled at a much more reduced price. The subscription for one year is at 25 $ US

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-29 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
because they do not have C and cannot build it. Isn't PCRE written in C? Yes, and that's why I had to provide binaries which is NOT ideal, because the binaries are IBM1047 specific ZA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /