Much bigger than bees knees too...
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:53:46 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote:
... a TSO under VS/1 product that we were looking at.
Did you get the opportunity to try it ?. I thought it was the ducks
John,
This is part of the process we are looking for: unload - batch modify - reload
of a policy.
This tool does the reload (install) part. This is, together with unload, is the
easiest part, it can be done online, because in the OP's and my situation, we
have a running system.
What is
Hi,
Is it possible to use RECEIVE ORDER for a specific FMID?
I am running SMP/E 36.11 on z/OS 1.13.
Thanks
Gadi
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(להלן : החברה) וזכויות החתימה בהן, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם
Hi all,
I think the simplest solution for an audit trail is z/OSMF 2.1. The WLM Policy
Manager in z/OSMF keeps an audit trail of every change you make, AND keeps a
history of previous definitions and policies. Whey create a new system when one
already exists? You're going to need to go to
Gadi,
I don't think that is possible. Unless, of course, some product consists of
a single FMID. But you can't, for instance, only order TCPIP independently
of z/OS. At least, I cannot see any way to do that.
As an aside, if possible, could you adjust your email software to left
justify your
Hi,
Is this the manual you're thinking of?
SC23-6855-02z/OS (2.1) DFSMS Using Data Sets -
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dgt3d402.pdf
Best regards,
Cheryl
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Watson Walker, Inc.
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cell text: 941-266-6609
Hi Lizette,
Here's an item from our latest Tuning Letter (2014 No. 3). This might help a
little.
Page Data Set Usage
Tom Kelman of Xerox Business Services, LLC asked: I have heard that the
process where the paging subsystem attempts to block pages together to send
them to the paging data
Thanks to all with help on this topic.
Cheryl. Thanks very much. I was hoping to find a formula to determine the
number of slots, but I think MXG can help with that.
I also was trying to determine if I can swap out 20 Mod3s for 2 Mod27s and
not have to create little datasets on the Mod54.
I
Hi,
AFAIK normal RECEIVE ORDER does not have such a function to include or exclude
FMIDs, but there is an offering of IBM Germany which allows to specify a
BLACKLIST or a WHITELIST of FMIDs to be included or excluded, when you order
service. You'll find some information about this product
You might:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21225816
3.0 Ordering Products in Shop zSeries
Mainframe product orders are placed through the Shop zSeries Web site. If you
have already purchased the product and are current on your MLC (machine-level
control) or OTC SS license, you
Hi Lizette,
I think with swapping 20 small ones for 2 large ones, you are going to hit
another paging problem: performance. When ASM needs to do a (mass) page out,
you can help ASM by providing as many parallel paths as possible, so 20 will
page out faster than 2.
Kees.
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If I understand. I can use the larger volumes but I should allocate my
Local Page Datasets in MOD3 or MOD9 sizes. So one Mod27 could have for one
LPAR 3 MOD9 Size Page or 9 MOD3 size Pages. And I should not mix LPAR1 and
LPAR2 Page Datasets on the same MOD27.
Is that correct?
Lizette
Cheryl,
No, they're talking about a book that describes the SYS1.* datasets.
I found an old copy online:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea1g510.pdf
In article 26cfc99c-f886-46db-9e93-baf552eeb...@gmail.com you wrote:
Hi,
Is this the manual you're thinking of?
SC23-6855-02
Hi Lizette,
Did you take a look at that Techdoc? It shows you how to calculate the number
of slots.
Regarding using larger rather than smaller data sets, it depends on what
happens to your online performance during an SVC dump. In most installations,
the only paging occurs during an SVC dump.
There is nothing you should or shouldn't, but keep all metrics in mind.
Allocate enough GB's on enough volumes. When we formatted our DS8800, we ended
up with a number of 3390-12's and I put 2 page datasets on each of them.
How much enough is depends, as you can guess.
You could try to find a
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Hi,
Is it possible to use RECEIVE ORDER for a specific FMID?
I am running SMP/E 36.11 on z/OS 1.13.
Yes, but only if the specific FMID is the only FMID in a
I am not sure what you are asking exactly for, but I do not think there are any
pictures of the units side-by-side, not even in the same room.
IBM 7090:
http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/BRL61-0548.jpg
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP7090.html
For the IBM 370MP,
Okay, I get that.
However, I seem to be using a high amount of Page Datasets and the only
thing I can see is zFS. In fact I am right now trying to size the zFS
environment so it uses a smaller foot print. There are no frequent SVC
Dumps on this system.
I will ask for zFLASH to be looked at.
What release of z/OS are you running Lizette? I know the defaults for zfs
memory usage went up in 1.13. Pretty sure these are the defaults too:
meta_cache_size=100M
metaback_cache_size=415M
trace_table_size=200M
user_cache_size=515M
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07:41:14 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21225816
You can order maintenance in the following ways:
individual PTFs
PTFs for individual APARs
service for individual installed FMIDs
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:01 AM
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07:41:14 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21225816
You can order maintenance in the
I think Gadi can accomplish what he wants if he first does a RECEIVE
ORDER.TRANSFERONLY. Then does a RECEIVE FROMNTS with the FORFMID.
Yep, still ordering and downloading all available maintenance, but not
receiving it all. I don’t see the benefit or the need, just trying to
Current mainframe are usually about 1 refrigerator sized box. Past
mainframes were often several connected boxes of this size.
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_album.html
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Nims,Alva John (Al) ajn...@ufl.edu wrote:
I am not sure what
This is just a curiosity question. How many lines of SYSLOG output do you
produce in an average day? I just did a quick look at last week's SYSLOG
and saw about 1.5 million lines for a 7 day period on two, rather small,
systems.
Why am I curious? From a previous thread on doing a tail -f on the
Our combined operlog is about 2M lines per day.
_
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Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H
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Actually, upon closer examination, closer to 5M lines a day during the week.
The prior 2M lines comment was a weekend day.
_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:43:03 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote:
Current mainframe are usually about 1 refrigerator sized box. Past
mainframes were often several connected boxes of this size.
Your refrigerator is quite a bit bigger than mine. I've seen that description
for years but it is not accurate.
There's a thread on ISPF-L where the OP wants to launch a
browser for a URL in an ISPF panel. Evidently he's looking
for a terminal-emulator-specific solution and got several
suggestions.
But how about running the browser on z/OS? Lynx is
Curses-constrained. Are there any others, perhaps based
I'm surprised, but it looks like on an average day the SYSLOG generates 1.3
million lines.
Regards,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company
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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:34
The Kitchenaid French Door model we just installed measures 35.5 x 35.5 x 69.5,
so it's not the worst comparison one could make.
--
Donald Grinsell
State of Montana
406-444-2983
dgrins...@mt.gov
Hell is other people.
~ Jean-Paul Sartre
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From: IBM Mainframe
There was a cute marketing tool for the 9672(CMOS) that was like the
Russian dolls. Slide out the
3090 box and there's a 9021 and slide out the other way and there's a 9672.
Very effective and simple. I loaned mine to the director for a board
meeting and never got it back(my grand kids loved
many OSes have terminal commands that
take an object name as an argument and launch the associated
application. For example, a browser for a URL; a file manager for
a directory; or an editor for a text file.
SimpList works like that. A single line of code (such as in a user written REXX
Windows start - but most likely a Windows terminal emulator would use
the ShellExecute function to start an external browser session.
About 6 months ago I was working on compiling Info-Zip (c source code).
Wiki claims it is The Third Most Portable Program in the World, so
you can imagine all
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Tom Brennan t...@tombrennansoftware.com
wrote:
Windows start - but most likely a Windows terminal emulator would use
the ShellExecute function to start an external browser session.
About 6 months ago I was working on compiling Info-Zip (c source code).
Wiki
25million
On 24 November 2014 at 18:07, Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com wrote:
I'm surprised, but it looks like on an average day the SYSLOG generates
1.3 million lines.
Regards,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Graham Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote:
25million
Ouch. Which leads to another question: How is this information used? At
that density I simply don't see a way for a unaugmented human to do much of
anything with it.
I would hope that most of that is
I'm using MFM (Module Fetch Monitor) and CP-Expert and we found
that we needed to increase the cache for CSVLLA. So we set it up
to 32MB (from the default of 16MB).
Well we ran for a bit like this to find that we need to set it
higher because of how often we are going through trim.
Is there
I have a COBOL program that is getting a SOC1 and produces a dump when the
SYSUDUMP DD is code in the failing step. If CEEDUMP is coded instead of
SYSUDUMP no dump is produced.
This program is complied with the same COBOL parameters and run in the same LE
environment as other COBOL programs
Dump information is only written to CEEDUMP following an S0C1 abend,
if the S0C1 was handled by LE. This should be the normal case in a LE
environment.
But in this case, if you don't get CEEDUMP information written following
the
S0C1, I guess that THIS S0C1 is not handled by LE, but it is a
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:16:45 -0600, Ed Gould wrote:
Is there a picture available that shows say a 7090, 370MP (or close)
and an EC box?
This is just for size comparisons as its hard to visualize (to me).
Would probably need to be one of the vendors. I was impresses when I went over
to the
One more idea:
I once had a strange S0C1 abend because due to an index range error
large parts of the program code were overwritten, and even the LE error
handler was unable to diagnose the error correctly, although under normal
circumstances it should be able to do so.
This was PL/1, not
How is your termthdact coded for the le environment?
Lizette
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From: Peter Ten Eyck peter_tene...@farmfamily.com
Sent: Nov 24, 2014 2:38 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP
I have a COBOL program that is getting a SOC1 and produces a
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On Behalf Of Bernd Oppolzer
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP
One more idea:
I once had a strange S0C1 abend
On 11/24/2014 4:30 PM, Steve Thompson wrote:
I'm using MFM (Module Fetch Monitor) and CP-Expert and we found that we
needed to increase the cache for CSVLLA. So we set it up to 32MB (from
the default of 16MB).
Well we ran for a bit like this to find that we need to set it higher
because of how
I had ASCII trouble with Info-zip too. Someone apparently added code to
ignore the -a (ascii conversion) option if the input data looks binary.
Well, EBCDIC text looked binary to the new code, so the -a option
wouldn't work at all on MVS.
That's one downside to #ifdef's - you really need to
From looking at the old iealg510 manual, it really would need a lot of
work to make it more accurate. It should mention all system data sets
that have special requirements - e.g., must be cataloged in Master
Catalog, must be on the SYSRES or the IPL volume, must be PDS not PDSE,
must exist but
I would hope that most of that is basically irrelevant status type
messages (job started / ended type stuff).
So would I!! :)
I would imagine most information in 'the log' is largely irrelevant from a
day-to-day point of view, until such time as you need to find out 'what
happened' in
Hi Don,
Thanks for the manual. I remember that one now.
I just checked with IBM, and here's what they said:
Our records show that z/OS MVS System Data Set Definition was removed on August
24, 2004. Here's the explanation:
Deleted: z/OS MVS System Data Set Definition, SA22-7629:
Thanks,
I was hoping for a side by side, by side.
Ed
On Nov 24, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote:
I am not sure what you are asking exactly for, but I do not think
there are any pictures of the units side-by-side, not even in the
same room.
IBM 7090:
Paul,
Way back when I was having a similar issue with applies so I asked
IBM (SHARE REQ) for apply forfmid.
I was lucky I asked for it and got it the the next SHARE so I am
guessing it was in the works already.
Ed
On Nov 24, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014
In
CAAJSdjgAWPxbUCR=czms7m6qx8hbbqwohpoc6upgro4rxkb...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/24/2014
at 08:05 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
As an aside, if possible, could you adjust your email software to
left justify your English text?
While I see extraneous blanks in his From: and To:
Hi all,
We are facing a abnormal Hardware error message on our HMC console. Is this
critical, do we need to fix it now or its a warning message.
could anyone help me please on this.
Hardware Messages - P002DAB7:LPAR1
Select Date Time Message Text
Select Date Time
For urgent issues, it is better to open a SEV1 case with IBM support.
Lizette
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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Fwd: HMC
On 11/24/2014 05:29 PM, Thomas Conley wrote:
On 11/24/2014 4:30 PM, Steve Thompson wrote:
SNIP
Is there a ROT for setting of the MAXVIRT for CSVLLA class?
SNIP
I'm thinking we should go to 64MB, but perhaps we should go
higher. I'm
just not aware of anything that gives us an idea of how
On 11/24/2014 09:30 AM, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote:
I am not sure what you are asking exactly for, but I do not think there are
any pictures of the units side-by-side, not even in the same room.
IBM 7090:
http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/BRL61-0548.jpg
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
IBM wants z/OS to be friendly.
They've turned down a lot of requirements that would have made it friendlier.
And audit improvement requests too. :-(
IBM wants things that will improve their cash flow, possibly at the expense of
long term profit.
Indeed. Think
Disclaimer: I (or we) don't have z/OSMF and z/OS v2.1, maybe next year, when we
are deemed not be naughty SysOps... ;-)
Cheryl Walker wrote:
But the reason to go to z/OSMF is not because people want cheap labor, but
because it's simply better (at least in 2.1).
John McKown is talking about
It appears your HMC as lost its link to the outside world, particularly to IBM.
Did a cable get unplugged? Did IBM's url change? Has someone reconfigured
your network or firewall? Did anyone update the remote support parameters?
If your system is up and running normally, it probably is not
Deleted: z/OS MVS System Data Set Definition, SA22-7629: Information about
system data sets is available with the information sent with the z/OS install
package. There is no replacement reference for MVS System Data Set
Definition, except for references to cataloging. In that one instance,
Hi, all,
We have some older piece of software ( part of a larger
software-package), that uses dataspaces and therefore DSPSERVE-CREATE
and -DELETE and ALESERV-ADD, but no ALESERV-DELETE.
It is running flawlessly even at customers with very high number of
workunits.
And since yesterday
Thanks you, we have raised a hardware call and waiting for CE.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:06 PM, retired mainframer
retired-mainfra...@q.com wrote:
It appears your HMC as lost its link to the outside world, particularly to
IBM. Did a cable get unplugged? Did IBM's url change? Has someone
1 million per day.
We actively use MPF list/exits to trim messages, both from the operator console
and from syslog/operlog, deleting those messages that we really don't need.
Kees.
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