how to copy JES2 Report that contains ASCII Chars to a dataset in SDSF and retain ASCII

2017-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
Cross posting to ISPF and IBM Main I have data that comes from a server to the mf. It is a plain text report but has x'8b' to indicate Carriage control. If I use SDSF to XDC the dataset the x'8b' gets converted to x'F1' I have tried setting the process to use ASCII and UTF-8 when I save the

Re: how to copy JES2 Report that contains ASCII Chars to a dataset in SDSF and retain ASCII

2017-09-25 Thread J R
So ... you didn't actually want to save it as ASCII? > On Sep 25, 2017, at 17:22, Lizette Koehler wrote: > > When editing the file in SDSF, I need to use the SOURCE ASCII command -- For IBM-MAIN

SYS1 names (was SYS3 datasets)

2017-09-25 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
ServerPac supplies a number of default names with three qualifiers such as SYS1.TCPIP.llq. We routinely eliminate any middle qualifier as being both redundant and confusing. 1. SMPE knows data sets by llq. SMPE cannot manage hlq.mlq1.llq and hlq.mlq2.llq concurrently. JCLIN does not know from

Re: how to copy JES2 Report that contains ASCII Chars to a dataset in SDSF and retain ASCII

2017-09-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:59:16 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >Cross posting to ISPF and IBM Main > ISPF-L doesn't seem to work very well nowadays. >I have data that comes from a server to the mf. It is a plain text report but >has x'8b' to indicate Carriage control. > How does the data get from

Re: how to copy JES2 Report that contains ASCII Chars to a dataset in SDSF and retain ASCII

2017-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think I found my answer. When editing the file in SDSF, I need to use the SOURCE ASCII command Then I can create the file to a disk dataset Lizette > -Original Message- > From: Lizette Koehler [mailto:stars...@mindspring.com] > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 1:59 PM > To:

Re: SYS1 names (was SYS3 datasets)

2017-09-25 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi, Just chiming in with what we do. Note that I will not attempt to rationalize any of this! XXX - IBM supplied DSNs. (CSF.**, BDT.**, etc) Distribution/Target Libraries. Mostly. Lives in the MCAT. SYS1 - IBM supplied critical DSNs. (SYS1.PARMLIB, SYS1.MANx, SYS1.SIEALNKE (?))

Re: SYS1 names (was SYS3 datasets)

2017-09-25 Thread Gibney, Dave
My SererPac(s) have always come as TCPIP.llq, CEE.llq, ASM.llq etc. and I've kept them. We did have a collision once before BMC bought IOA. IBM won ... > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson > Sent:

Re: SYS1 names (was SYS3 datasets)

2017-09-25 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I misspoke in my original post. The three-qualifier data set names were our own choice to preserve the ServerPac qualifier but still fit into our naming standards. It was not a whimsical choice. We have 7 SAF-plexes to maintain. Introducing even one new HLQ means a lot of work to make all seven

Re: how to verify whether the volume is empty or not?

2017-09-25 Thread retired mainframer
For me, the easiest way is to display the volume in ISPF 3.4 and verify that no datasets appear other than the VTOC index and the VVDS, neither of which need appear. But you asked for a batch method. You could execute IEHLIST and scan the output as described above. You can run ISPF in batch

Re: how to verify whether the volume is empty or not?

2017-09-25 Thread Edward Finnell
The problem is that if the from volume has a UCAT on it some updates may me missed in the time it takes to do the copy. Guess I'd start with an INIT'd volume then duplex to it. If successful break the duplex, make the secondary primary and reinit the old from volume.    In a message dated

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Anthony Thompson
I've worked at a few different shops, and I've seen that SYS2, SYS3, SYS4 HLQ convention a several times. It's a hangover from days of yore, around about the 10th century CE, when link-listed datasets had to be catalogued in the master catalogue. The thinking went: since SYS1 files are

how to verify whether the volume is empty or not?

2017-09-25 Thread ibmm...@foxmail.com
Hi all We want to move all datasets from one volume to the other volume. Could you tell us how to verify whether the volume is empty or not by batch? Thanks a lot ! Jason Cai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: how to verify whether the volume is empty or not?

2017-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
Have you checked the CBTTAPE.org to see what tools may be there File # 710 TSO commands to display DASD volume and dataset recds Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of ibmm...@foxmail.com > Sent: Monday,

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread John McKown
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > We have a staff z/OS systems programmer who claims that: > "Almost all shops use the SYS3. HLQ to indicate third party software." > > So new software installs *have* to follow that "rule". (Past installs did > not follow

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2017-09-25 Thread Gord Tomlin
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Re: 503 Service Unavailable - www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/

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AW: Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-25 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>You need DDF access to the DB2 that has the data and from Lunix/Unix/Windows >this can be achieved by installing IBM Data Server Client and on z/OS you must >install DB2 to facilitate this. This DB2 does not need databases, datasharing >or Sysplex, only IP connectivity to the DB2 with data,

SMF30 EXCP count confusion

2017-09-25 Thread Peter Hunkeler
SMF manual, Chapter 10 "EXCP Count" seems to clearly state that EXCP counts are indeed the number of EXCPs executed. Fields SMF30TEP and SMF30TEX are described as "Total blocks transferred (accumulated EXCP counts). I would assume that these fields still contain the number of EXCPs executed

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Edward Gould
> On Sep 25, 2017, at 6:20 AM, van der Grijn, Bart (B) > wrote: > > > We have a staff z/OS systems programmer who claims that: > "Almost all shops use the SYS3. HLQ to indicate third party software." > > So new software installs *have* to follow that "rule". (Past

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Allan Staller
There is an old *convention* that uses that. I would question "almost all". You may or may not choose to follow that convention. I have not used that convention in over 10 years. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Source code to UDSMTP used by XMITIP?

2017-09-25 Thread John McKown
We use XMITIP, a great package, to send out our email via our MS Exchange Server (boo!). That package uses UDSMTP to actually do the sending. Leonard said to go to the Dignus site to get that package. That site said to go to http://manatee.nss.udel.edu/ which get a DNS error. Undoubtedly the

Please don't feed the trolls

2017-09-25 Thread Tom Marchant
When we reply to people who come back repeatedly to disturb the list with their off-topic posts, we give them the forum that they want. It is better to simply ignore them. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: [EXTERNAL] Source code to UDSMTP used by XMITIP?

2017-09-25 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote: > The source for UDSMTP is included with the XMITIP package in the PDS see > member UDSMTPS - it is a tar.gz file that was uploaded in binary into the > PDS. > ​Thanks. I had it, but when I was installing, I

Re: 503 Service Unavailable - www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/

2017-09-25 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I get there just fine. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gord Tomlin Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 9:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: 503 Service Unavailable -

Re: SMF30 EXCP count confusion

2017-09-25 Thread Barry Merrill
NOPE, EXCP counts in SMF 30 records can be the count of records, or blocks, or the number of SSCH (Start Subchannel, was SIO) commands or EXCP commands issued, depending what the Access Method decided to pass into SMF in the IFASMFEX exit that accumulates the type 30 EXCP fields. And zero is a

Re: SMF30 EXCP count confusion

2017-09-25 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
This is off the top-of-my-head (not much left anymore), but I believe 1 EXCP can do multiple blocks, as in the number of "Buffers" defined for the I/O so if multiple blocks have been queued into a single buffer, the buffer would be written by one EXCP, maybe, I think. Al Nims Systems

Re: [EXTERNAL] Source code to UDSMTP used by XMITIP?

2017-09-25 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
The source for UDSMTP is included with the XMITIP package in the PDS see member UDSMTPS - it is a tar.gz file that was uploaded in binary into the PDS. Hope that helps -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 22:18:05 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: >We have a staff z/OS systems programmer who claims that: >"Almost all shops use the SYS3. HLQ to indicate third party software." Nonsense. If he wants to use SYS3 for third party software, that's his business. But to justify it with

Re: Please don't feed the trolls

2017-09-25 Thread Sasso, Leonard
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Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-25 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
I checked with my DB2 colleagues to avoid stating things that are not true: yes, you are right. You need DDF access to the DB2 that has the data and from Lunix/Unix/Windows this can be achieved by installing IBM Data Server Client and on z/OS you must install DB2 to facilitate this. This DB2

Re: What is 4 Hour rolling average

2017-09-25 Thread Peter
Hi Martin Thank you so much and now I get why '4' Regards Peter On 25-Sep-2017 12:07 PM, "Martin Packer" wrote: > If you look in the SMF manual at SMF70LAC it talks about long-term > average. But in practice it DOES mean 4-Hour Rolling Average. > > I believe the

Re: Fallback PTF or Backout ?

2017-09-25 Thread John Eells
Peter wrote: Hi Whenever we moved to the higher version of zOS we have applied the toleration maintenance but never applied fallback. Fallback is something when we have to move back to the previous version. So to my understanding if we can Backout all the changes to the previous level then

Re: SMF30 EXCP count confusion

2017-09-25 Thread Martin Packer
Example of what Barry is saying: For QSAM EXCP is number of blocks transferred. Buffering can make this much greater than the I/O count. The latter is best seen in SMF 42-6. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM

Re: SMF30 EXCP count confusion

2017-09-25 Thread Jim Mulder
To be a little more precise with the terminology, it is whatever the IOS driver decided to pass into SMF in the IFASMFEX exit that accumulates the type 30 EXCP fields. For example: For SAM, EXCP (an IOS driver) lets SAM do the calls to IEASMFEX. For non-SAM use of EXCP, EXCP calls

Re: Source code to UDSMTP used by XMITIP?

2017-09-25 Thread Thomas David Rivers
John McKown wrote: We use XMITIP, a great package, to send out our email via our MS Exchange Server (boo!). That package uses UDSMTP to actually do the sending. Leonard said to go to the Dignus site to get that package. That site said to go to http://manatee.nss.udel.edu/ which get a DNS error.

Re: Source code to UDSMTP used by XMITIP?

2017-09-25 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > John McKown wrote: > > We use XMITIP, a great package, to send out our email via our MS Exchange >> Server (boo!). That package uses UDSMTP to actually do the sending. >> Leonard >> said to go to the Dignus site to

AW: Re: SMF30 EXCP count confusion

2017-09-25 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Thank you all for the delightfully funny insight. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Unfortunately and fortunately I've had the opportunity to work in many different shops, the phrase 'almost all shops use SYS3' is just B.S. It all comes down to who started or documented the standards for that company or site, I've worked for companies that added a site ID to a HLQ, the

Re: how to verify whether the volume is empty or not?

2017-09-25 Thread Brian Fraser
Run ICKDSF with the INIT parameter then its verified empty :) Brian On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Edward Finnell < 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > The problem is that if the from volume has a UCAT on it some updates may > me missed in the time it takes to do

Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-25 Thread Frank Swarbrick
My understanding is the JDBC "Type 4" (pure Java) client for DB2 has the DRDA protocol "built in", and thus no additional DB2 software is required on the client. I don't know if I've ever actually tried this, however, so I may not be correct. From: IBM

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
As others have said, there is no universal rule, just conventions adopted in each shop--or in each mind! I personally think that 'SYS3' for 3rd party products is a pretty cute mnemonic, but it's certainly not pervasive. One requirement that we recently got reminded of is that a link list data

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
"So if you plan to use anything other than 'SYS1' for such purposes, be sure that you put the whole set into MCAT." Or use volsers in your PROGxx members if that's a practical alternative. In our newer environments (all DB2) we use one single SYSRES and all link-listed libraries are on that

Re: how to copy JES2 Report that contains ASCII Chars to a dataset in SDSF and retain ASCII

2017-09-25 Thread J R
I think 8B is an ordinary printer channel command, either print-then-space or space-then-print. The OP may be confused between ASCII and ASA/ANSI. Looks like JES2 knew the data was ASCII and displayed it accordingly. > On Sep 25, 2017, at 17:32, Paul Gilmartin >

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Bill Wilkie
Ed: Did you find out why they were updating things each time they ran? I wonder if their updating had to do with keeping usage statistics. Bill From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Edward Gould

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
We also use SYS1.CEE instead of IBMs supplied CEE HLQ. (grrr). I like the IBM ADCD method of DFHnnn for CICS as HLQ etc. On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Edward Gould wrote: > > On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > > > > We have a staff

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) wrote: >Haha, conventions and standards. A famous expression here is: everybody is >entitled to his own standards. Standards? Huh? What standards...? ;-D ;-D Ok, seriously, we have this standards: SysPlex HLQ (handful of them) - shared by all LPARs including a

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Edward Gould
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 23:27:40 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote: > >> Would that there were some sort of standard. :) >> ... >> If your Systems Programmer wants to use SYS3, then that's great,

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
We've never used SYS3 (or SYS2,etc.). Products have their own two HLQ. PRDB2, PRTWS, PRISP, etc. for R/O datasets that reside on SYSRES. PSDB2, PSTWS, etc for runtime libraries for the same product. Bart -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Eric Mendelson
This is only a convention we use sys4 Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2017, at 23:09, Ronald Kristel wrote: > > We have some (IBM) products and no third party software under SYS3. There are > no rules here to differentiate between the two in SYS% HLQ. > > - > Ronald

Re: Fallback PTF or Backout ?

2017-09-25 Thread Edward Gould
The way I did it, Major release new res pack. PTF’s (this is a depends). Example ICKDSF (IIRC) has one module I copy the old version to my private library and update the new version and do a F LLA,refresh. Jes2 is funny the way I do it and it depends on either the HOLD data or verbiage in the

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
So conventions are on a shop basis. Whatever the shop wants to use, is the convention I have known some shops to use this SYS1CAfor all CA Products SYS1IBM for all IBM products SYS1ORC for all Oracle products and so on I have known some shops to use this SYS1 - all IBM

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Haha, conventions and standards. A famous expression here is: everybody is entitled to his own standards. Guess how many you will get. We used SYS1. dsnames for the first, SYS2. for the second and SYS3. for datasets on our 3rd system volume, which containes system specific static data like

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Edward Gould
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > > We have a staff z/OS systems programmer who claims that: > "Almost all shops use the SYS3. HLQ to indicate third party software." > > So new software installs *have* to follow that "rule". (Past installs did not > follow

Re: SYS3 datasets

2017-09-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
We changed our philosophy recently. SYS1 datasets on IPL volume and any needed for IPL. We now have our CICS HLQ as SYS3 and MQ as SYS3. These both have a SYS1 alias to avoid JCL changes. So for example, CICS alias is SYS1.CICSTS.SDFHLOAD points to SYS3.CICSTS ( is a system symbol). On Mon,

Re: What is 4 Hour rolling average

2017-09-25 Thread Martin Packer
If you look in the SMF manual at SMF70LAC it talks about long-term average. But in practice it DOES mean 4-Hour Rolling Average. I believe the figure is generated by the hardware / firmware - from the z/OS perspective. This is important because I don’t think you can negotiate with IBM execs to

AW: Re: STC - APF - confusion

2017-09-25 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Alternatively, I suppose you could run without APF-authorization if you have >your initial program listed in the PPT as requiring a system key, as running >in a system key will also allow you to switch to supervisor state. On the >whole, though, running APF-authorized is probably simpler and