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I have data that comes from a server to the mf. It is a plain text report but
has x'8b' to indicate Carriage control.
If I use SDSF to XDC the dataset the x'8b' gets converted to x'F1'
I have tried setting the process to use ASCII and UTF-8 when I save the
So ... you didn't actually want to save it as ASCII?
> On Sep 25, 2017, at 17:22, Lizette Koehler wrote:
>
> When editing the file in SDSF, I need to use the SOURCE ASCII command
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ServerPac supplies a number of default names with three qualifiers such as
SYS1.TCPIP.llq. We routinely eliminate any middle qualifier as being both
redundant and confusing.
1. SMPE knows data sets by llq. SMPE cannot manage hlq.mlq1.llq and
hlq.mlq2.llq concurrently. JCLIN does not know from
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:59:16 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
>Cross posting to ISPF and IBM Main
>
ISPF-L doesn't seem to work very well nowadays.
>I have data that comes from a server to the mf. It is a plain text report but
>has x'8b' to indicate Carriage control.
>
How does the data get from
I think I found my answer.
When editing the file in SDSF, I need to use the SOURCE ASCII command
Then I can create the file to a disk dataset
Lizette
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> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 1:59 PM
> To:
Hi,
Just chiming in with what we do. Note that I will not attempt to
rationalize any of this!
XXX - IBM supplied DSNs. (CSF.**, BDT.**, etc) Distribution/Target
Libraries. Mostly. Lives in the MCAT.
SYS1 - IBM supplied critical DSNs. (SYS1.PARMLIB, SYS1.MANx, SYS1.SIEALNKE
(?))
My SererPac(s) have always come as TCPIP.llq, CEE.llq, ASM.llq etc. and I've
kept them. We did have a collision once before BMC bought IOA. IBM won ...
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I misspoke in my original post. The three-qualifier data set names were our own
choice to preserve the ServerPac qualifier but still fit into our naming
standards. It was not a whimsical choice. We have 7 SAF-plexes to maintain.
Introducing even one new HLQ means a lot of work to make all seven
For me, the easiest way is to display the volume in ISPF 3.4 and verify that no
datasets appear other than the VTOC index and the VVDS, neither of which need
appear.
But you asked for a batch method. You could execute IEHLIST and scan the
output as described above. You can run ISPF in batch
The problem is that if the from volume has a UCAT on it some updates may me
missed in the time it takes to do the copy. Guess I'd start with an INIT'd
volume then duplex to it. If successful break the duplex, make the secondary
primary and reinit the old from volume.
In a message dated
I've worked at a few different shops, and I've seen that SYS2, SYS3, SYS4 HLQ
convention a several times.
It's a hangover from days of yore, around about the 10th century CE, when
link-listed datasets had to be catalogued in the master catalogue. The thinking
went: since SYS1 files are
Hi all
We want to move all datasets from one volume to the other volume.
Could you tell us how to verify whether the volume is empty or not by batch?
Thanks a lot !
Jason Cai
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Have you checked the CBTTAPE.org to see what tools may be there
File # 710 TSO commands to display DASD volume and dataset recds
Lizette
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On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
> We have a staff z/OS systems programmer who claims that:
> "Almost all shops use the SYS3. HLQ to indicate third party software."
>
> So new software installs *have* to follow that "rule". (Past installs did
> not follow
I am unable to get at the handy dandy page that leads to manuals in
their various formats. Anyone else?
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>You need DDF access to the DB2 that has the data and from Lunix/Unix/Windows
>this can be achieved by installing IBM Data Server Client and on z/OS you must
>install DB2 to facilitate this. This DB2 does not need databases, datasharing
>or Sysplex, only IP connectivity to the DB2 with data,
SMF manual, Chapter 10 "EXCP Count" seems to clearly state that EXCP counts are
indeed the number of EXCPs executed. Fields SMF30TEP and SMF30TEX are described
as "Total blocks transferred (accumulated EXCP counts).
I would assume that these fields still contain the number of EXCPs executed
> On Sep 25, 2017, at 6:20 AM, van der Grijn, Bart (B)
> wrote:
>
>
> We have a staff z/OS systems programmer who claims that:
> "Almost all shops use the SYS3. HLQ to indicate third party software."
>
> So new software installs *have* to follow that "rule". (Past
There is an old *convention* that uses that.
I would question "almost all".
You may or may not choose to follow that convention.
I have not used that convention in over 10 years.
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We use XMITIP, a great package, to send out our email via our MS Exchange
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http://manatee.nss.udel.edu/ which get a DNS error. Undoubtedly the
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On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
wrote:
> The source for UDSMTP is included with the XMITIP package in the PDS see
> member UDSMTPS - it is a tar.gz file that was uploaded in binary into the
> PDS.
>
Thanks. I had it, but when I was installing, I
I get there just fine.
Bob
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NOPE, EXCP counts in SMF 30 records can be the count of records, or blocks,
or the number of SSCH (Start Subchannel, was SIO) commands or EXCP commands
issued, depending what the Access Method decided to pass into SMF in the
IFASMFEX exit that accumulates the type 30 EXCP fields.
And zero is a
This is off the top-of-my-head (not much left anymore), but I believe 1 EXCP
can do multiple blocks, as in the number of "Buffers" defined for the I/O so if
multiple blocks have been queued into a single buffer, the buffer would be
written by one EXCP, maybe, I think.
Al Nims
Systems
The source for UDSMTP is included with the XMITIP package in the PDS see member
UDSMTPS - it is a tar.gz file that was uploaded in binary into the PDS.
Hope that helps
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 22:18:05 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>We have a staff z/OS systems programmer who claims that:
>"Almost all shops use the SYS3. HLQ to indicate third party software."
Nonsense. If he wants to use SYS3 for third party software, that's his
business. But to justify it with
Totally agree!
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I checked with my DB2 colleagues to avoid stating things that are not true:
yes, you are right.
You need DDF access to the DB2 that has the data and from Lunix/Unix/Windows
this can be achieved by installing IBM Data Server Client and on z/OS you must
install DB2 to facilitate this. This DB2
Hi Martin
Thank you so much and now I get why '4'
Regards
Peter
On 25-Sep-2017 12:07 PM, "Martin Packer" wrote:
> If you look in the SMF manual at SMF70LAC it talks about long-term
> average. But in practice it DOES mean 4-Hour Rolling Average.
>
> I believe the
Peter wrote:
Hi
Whenever we moved to the higher version of zOS we have applied the
toleration maintenance but never applied fallback.
Fallback is something when we have to move back to the previous version.
So to my understanding if we can Backout all the changes to the previous
level then
Example of what Barry is saying: For QSAM EXCP is number of blocks
transferred. Buffering can make this much greater than the I/O count. The
latter is best seen in SMF 42-6.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
To be a little more precise with the terminology, it
is whatever the IOS driver decided to pass into SMF in
the IFASMFEX exit that accumulates the type 30 EXCP fields.
For example:
For SAM, EXCP (an IOS driver) lets SAM do the calls to
IEASMFEX. For non-SAM use of EXCP, EXCP calls
John McKown wrote:
We use XMITIP, a great package, to send out our email via our MS Exchange
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said to go to the Dignus site to get that package. That site said to go to
http://manatee.nss.udel.edu/ which get a DNS error.
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> John McKown wrote:
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> We use XMITIP, a great package, to send out our email via our MS Exchange
>> Server (boo!). That package uses UDSMTP to actually do the sending.
>> Leonard
>> said to go to the Dignus site to
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Unfortunately and fortunately I've had the opportunity to work in many
different shops, the phrase 'almost all shops use SYS3' is just B.S.
It all comes down to who started or documented the standards for that company
or site, I've worked for companies that added a site ID to a HLQ, the
Run ICKDSF with the INIT parameter then its verified empty :)
Brian
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Edward Finnell <
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> The problem is that if the from volume has a UCAT on it some updates may
> me missed in the time it takes to do
My understanding is the JDBC "Type 4" (pure Java) client for DB2 has the DRDA
protocol "built in", and thus no additional DB2 software is required on the
client. I don't know if I've ever actually tried this, however, so I may not
be correct.
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As others have said, there is no universal rule, just conventions adopted in
each shop--or in each mind! I personally think that 'SYS3' for 3rd party
products is a pretty cute mnemonic, but it's certainly not pervasive. One
requirement that we recently got reminded of is that a link list data
"So if you plan to use anything other than 'SYS1' for such purposes, be sure
that you put the whole set into MCAT."
Or use volsers in your PROGxx members if that's a practical alternative.
In our newer environments (all DB2) we use one single SYSRES and all
link-listed libraries are on that
I think 8B is an ordinary printer channel command, either print-then-space or
space-then-print.
The OP may be confused between ASCII and ASA/ANSI.
Looks like JES2 knew the data was ASCII and displayed it accordingly.
> On Sep 25, 2017, at 17:32, Paul Gilmartin
>
Ed:
Did you find out why they were updating things each time they ran? I wonder if
their updating had to do with keeping usage statistics.
Bill
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Edward Gould
We also use SYS1.CEE instead of IBMs supplied CEE HLQ. (grrr).
I like the IBM ADCD method of DFHnnn for CICS as HLQ etc.
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Edward Gould
wrote:
> > On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
> >
> > We have a staff
Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) wrote:
>Haha, conventions and standards. A famous expression here is: everybody is
>entitled to his own standards.
Standards? Huh? What standards...? ;-D ;-D
Ok, seriously, we have this standards:
SysPlex HLQ (handful of them) - shared by all LPARs including a
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin
> <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 23:27:40 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote:
>
>> Would that there were some sort of standard. :)
>> ...
>> If your Systems Programmer wants to use SYS3, then that's great,
We've never used SYS3 (or SYS2,etc.). Products have their own two HLQ. PRDB2,
PRTWS, PRISP, etc. for R/O datasets that reside on SYSRES. PSDB2, PSTWS, etc
for runtime libraries for the same product.
Bart
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This is only a convention we use sys4
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> On Sep 24, 2017, at 23:09, Ronald Kristel wrote:
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> We have some (IBM) products and no third party software under SYS3. There are
> no rules here to differentiate between the two in SYS% HLQ.
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The way I did it,
Major release new res pack.
PTF’s (this is a depends). Example ICKDSF (IIRC) has one module I copy the old
version to my private library and update the new version and do a F LLA,refresh.
Jes2 is funny the way I do it and it depends on either the HOLD data or
verbiage in the
So conventions are on a shop basis. Whatever the shop wants to use, is the
convention
I have known some shops to use this
SYS1CAfor all CA Products
SYS1IBM for all IBM products
SYS1ORC for all Oracle products and so on
I have known some shops to use this
SYS1 - all IBM
Haha, conventions and standards. A famous expression here is: everybody is
entitled to his own standards. Guess how many you will get.
We used SYS1. dsnames for the first, SYS2. for the second and SYS3. for
datasets on our 3rd system volume, which containes system specific static data
like
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>
> We have a staff z/OS systems programmer who claims that:
> "Almost all shops use the SYS3. HLQ to indicate third party software."
>
> So new software installs *have* to follow that "rule". (Past installs did not
> follow
We changed our philosophy recently.
SYS1 datasets on IPL volume and any needed for IPL.
We now have our CICS HLQ as SYS3 and MQ as SYS3. These both have a SYS1
alias to avoid JCL changes.
So for example, CICS alias is SYS1.CICSTS.SDFHLOAD points to
SYS3.CICSTS ( is a system symbol).
On Mon,
If you look in the SMF manual at SMF70LAC it talks about long-term average. But
in practice it DOES mean 4-Hour Rolling Average.
I believe the figure is generated by the hardware / firmware - from the z/OS
perspective. This is important because I don’t think you can negotiate with IBM
execs to
>Alternatively, I suppose you could run without APF-authorization if you have
>your initial program listed in the PPT as requiring a system key, as running
>in a system key will also allow you to switch to supervisor state. On the
>whole, though, running APF-authorized is probably simpler and
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