Re: implementing one module/ ptf after apply

2020-07-22 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 7/22/2020 8:29 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: I have run an apply for an RSU level for DB2 base. But now I need to implement (move into my run time libraries) one module /PTF without the rest of the maintenance for that RSU level. Can I move in individual modules? or does the RSU level maintenance

TS7760 Cache utilization

2020-07-22 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, How can I find out, using a batch job, the TS7760 cache utilization? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TS7760 Cache utilization

2020-07-22 Thread Roger Lowe
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 11:49:20 +, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: >Hi, >How can I find out, using a batch job, the TS7760 cache utilization? > Gadi, Have a look at BVIR and VEHSTATS. These are part of the IBM TAPETOOLS package and you should be able to download it from

implementing one module/ ptf after apply

2020-07-22 Thread Bill Giannelli
I have run an apply for an RSU level for DB2 base. But now I need to implement (move into my run time libraries) one module /PTF without the rest of the maintenance for that RSU level. Can I move in individual modules? or does the RSU level maintenance need to go in as a whole? I hope my

Re: implementing one module/ ptf after apply

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
Cutting corners very dangerous. I advice you to develop a deployment plan for service that includes appropriate processes for individual PTFs, HIPER, RSU and whatever else you're using. That plan should include QA even for emergency fixes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: TS7760 Cache utilization

2020-07-22 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Request the Historial statistics and filter out the TVCSIZE and TVCUSED values. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi Sent: 22 July 2020 13:49 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TS7760 Cache utilization Hi, How can I find out, using

Re: TS7760 Cache utilization

2020-07-22 Thread Roger Lowe
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 07:12:05 -0500, Roger Lowe wrote: >On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 11:49:20 +, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > >>Hi, >>How can I find out, using a batch job, the TS7760 cache utilization? >> >Gadi, > Have a look at BVIR and VEHSTATS. These are part of the IBM TAPETOOLS > package and you

Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavi

2020-07-22 Thread rhaimowitz
Yes, you can use an OSA ICC 3270 session as a NIP console as long as the device number is in the OS Config NIP console list  Bob Original message From: Brian Westerman Date: 7/22/20 2:43 AM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing

Re: implementing one module/ ptf after apply

2020-07-22 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Does the base have all the pre-sup's to allow apply of that one ptf, IMHO it would be dangerous, on the z/OS side I've only done this to fix a down system and then I eventually packaged that with any other maint on a new sysres and IPL'd again after. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message

Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior

2020-07-22 Thread Brian Westerman
You can use ICC 3270's as z/OS consoles, I think what you are referring to is that you may not be able to use them as NIP consoles. Brian On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:41:59 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: >But, what does 3215 support have to do with the fact that z/OS requires >a special option on

Re: Encrypting z/OS SNMP traps to Windows SNMP server

2020-07-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Grant Taylor wrote: >Why not use "transport" mode vs "tunnel" mode? That should be fine. - - - - - - - - - - Timothy Sipples I.T. Architect Executive Digital Asset & Other Industry Solutions IBM Z & LinuxONE - - - - - - - - - - E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com

Re: Sending email from the Mainframe

2020-07-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Len Sasso wrote: >We are using CSSMTP to send email from the Mainframe. >All our messages must implement TLS 1.2 or higher for >transport level encryption. >What you using? CSSMTP. No problem. IBM explains how to set up TLS with CSSMTP here (current z/OS 2.4 documentation link, subject to

Re: Encrypting z/OS SNMP traps to Windows SNMP server

2020-07-22 Thread Christian Svensson
What about using SNMPv3? It is encrypted if you tell it to enable privacy. On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 19:42 Charles Mills wrote: > Does SNMP flow by TCP or by UDP? UDP would be wrinkle. TLS-UDP is not > unheard of but not super common in my experience. Does AT-TLS support UDP? > > Charles > > >

Re: implementing one module/ ptf after apply

2020-07-22 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020, at 13:19, Bill Giannelli wrote: > I have run an apply for an RSU level for DB2 base. But now I need to > implement (move into my run time libraries) one module /PTF without the > rest of the maintenance for that RSU level. Can I move in individual > modules? or does the RSU

Re: implementing one module/ ptf after apply

2020-07-22 Thread Bill Giannelli
thanks you your help here! so it seems to me you should have one CSI or target/dlib zone to match what is LIVE in production. then if you need a "one-off" ptf...aplly it there for implementation into your run time libraries. thanks Bill

Re: TS7760 Cache utilization

2020-07-22 Thread kekronbekron
In case FTP is blocked... https://public.dhe.ibm.com/storage/tapetool - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:42 PM, Roger Lowe wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 11:49:20 +, Gadi Ben-Avi gad...@malam.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > How can I find out, using a batch job, the

Re: implementing one module/ ptf after apply

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
It's a lot safer to have separate CSI/target/DLIB environments that you apply service to and a robust process for rolling the service forward. Applying service to a live system can cause all sorts of problems. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
WTF? It's true that both used (past tense) the freezing and boiling point of "water" at STP, but since when weren't they defined outside of 0-100?" Because: The centigrade scale was confusing because "centigrade" was also the Spanish and French term for a unit of angular measurement equal to

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
That explains why the term used in the 19th Century was confusing; it has no relevance to the issue of whether the term is limited to temperatures in the range 0-100. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jul 22, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > (BTW, what's the SI unit of Specific Impulse? And the formula for ∆v? Ugh!) > > From wikipedia: “The most common unit for specific impulse is the second, as values are identical

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Gibney, Dave
Actually, the pound is a unit of force in English units. I believe weight is measured in stones. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 4:23 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OOBOL and

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Time for us to go back to school. Lb Foot is not a measure of pressure, it needs to act on area to be a measure of pressure. Lbs / square foot/ PSI etc. are common measurements of pressure (tires etc.). In the 60's we were taught poundals as a measure of force, ie the force required to

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
You have the same mass versus weight issue with pound. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tony Thigpen [t...@vse2pdf.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:31:03 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >Foot pounds is a measure of pressure > ??? Torque? >> -Original Message- >> From: Seymour J Metz >> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:29 PM >> >> Yes, and whyat is lbf? -- gil

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Gibney, Dave
Foot pounds is a measure of pressure > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:29 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? > > Yes, and

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(force) foot-pound force is ft⋅lbf or ft⋅lb -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Gibney, Dave Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 8:31 PM To:

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Mike Schwab
One Stone is 14 pounds on Earth's Surface on average. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:27 PM Gibney, Dave wrote: > > Actually, the pound is a unit of force in English units. I believe weight is > measured in stones. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > >

Re: cURL and security

2020-07-22 Thread Filip Palian
Hey, You can read login credentials from within a script at run time from a separate file containing password. This file should have an adequate permissions and ownership set of course. Alternatively, if you control the target, perhaps you can whitelist your curl/client. I hope that helps.

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
I would prefer "how many kgF I weigh"; I definitely don't like Newtons as a weight unit for, e.g., medicine, sports. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, and whyat is lbf? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Gibney, Dave Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 8:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re:

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
Horse Power?? Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 7/22/20 10:20 PM: On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:31:03 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: Foot pounds is a measure of pressure ??? Torque? -Original Message- From: Seymour J Metz Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:29 PM Yes, and whyat is lbf?

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Mike Schwab
And the metric equivalent is Newton Meters. You can get torque wrenches in either measurement, I would think some have both. Some bolts will fail if too loose or too tight. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:31 PM Gibney, Dave wrote: > > Foot pounds is a measure of pressure > > > -Original

cURL and security

2020-07-22 Thread Luke
Hi All I'm wondering if anyone is using cURL on z/OS in a production setting? I'm interested how to utilise cURL when the target URL requires authentication. We can't use Basic Auth because we are not able to store usernames and password in scripts or batch jobs. We can't easily use

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
WTF? It's true that both used (past tense) the freezing and boiling point of "water" at STP, but since when weren't they defined outside of 0-100? Scare quotes because there is no standard for the percent of Deuterium in the water. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Gibney, Dave
Have to admit that I haven't been in a physics class in 40 years. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After

Re: Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>which means writing a Rexx exec to parse it into > something to match to the output of the other stuff Tim, You can use DFSORT to parse the content. If you need help parsing the contents, then please send me an offline email with the contents to be parsed. Thanks, Kolusu DFSORT Development

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
Actually, i does, but is not as precise: https://www.thoughtco.com/difference-between-celsius-and-centigrade-609226 -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Joe Monk Sent: Wednesday,

Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
Technically it's a no-brainer, but there may be political issues at some sites. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 4:54 PM To:

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-22 Thread Tim Hare
I know there's still a VS FORTRAN compiler on a machine I work on - is it still supported, or does it just "work". Haven't seen updates for it in forever; we are running down what was compiled with it that may still be running. All the important stuff moved to a FORTRAN supplied by another

Re: PIPE command on zOS Platforms

2020-07-22 Thread Steve Horein
NetView has Pipes: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSZJDU_6.3.0/com.ibm.iznetview.doc_6.3.0/dqsmst.html On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 10:28 AM Jasi Grewal wrote: > Hi, > > I have a z/OS System and unfortunately I cannot use PIPE commands in Rexx > Programs. > It states 'PIPE command

Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread Roberto Halais
Thank you all. Got a lot of good information. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:08 PM Kirk Wolf wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:54 PM Lionel B Dyck wrote: > > > > > Be aware you will have to learn a few new tricks with the Co:Z SFTP > server > > from the client side unless you are happy with only

Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread Roberto Halais
"Political issues" Already ran into that. Thank you. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:29 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > Technically it's a no-brainer, but there may be political issues at some > sites. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > >

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
Your PC users are probably using GNU Fortran or equivalent, and any new code they write will probably not compile on VSFORTAN. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 17:05:29 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I took me a while before I realized that, of course, kg is a unit of mass, not >of weight; you weigh tings in kilogram-force (kgf or kgF). > Which of the following would you envision and welcome as an idiomatic alternative?: o ... how

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Centigrade was derived from Celsius, however, both described only the freezing point and boiling point of water at NTP. My physics teachers said don't say >100 centigrade. It's outside the bounds. So physicists use Kelvin. On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:26 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > Actually, i

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
See! SI is a "FANTASTIC" improvement over old stuff. It's all standardized and everyone talks in the same way. (NOT!) Thank you France. Vive la pound, and inch, and mile... (This post was posted with sarcastic mode set to "on".) Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 7/22/20 5:58 PM: On Wed,

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Bob Bridges
If we're going to express sympathy for imperial units, I've always thought the furlong was pretty useful. Not so much when you're driving a car, but for walking it works pretty well. Portages in Minnesota and Ontario are measured in rods, but I could never get my head wrapped around them.

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Bob Bridges wrote: > > Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to > think much about it. It's so easy: 0s are cold, 10s are cool, 20s are > warm, 30s are hot. If 30s are hot, what do you call 40s? We hit 106°F last week, which is

PIPE command on zOS Platforms

2020-07-22 Thread Jasi Grewal
Hi, I have a z/OS System and unfortunately I cannot use PIPE commands in Rexx Programs. It states 'PIPE command not found' and does a Customer have to pay for the z/OS Feature to use PIPE's under Rexx Program. Which Product does a Customer have to order or enable to allow a user to use PIPE

Re: PIPE command on zOS Platforms

2020-07-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Sadly Pipes is not available in native z/OS - it is available in the SmartBatch - the cover letter is here https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=DD=SM=897/ENUS5655-A17 - unfortunately this is really overkill if all you want is Pipes. Here is an RFE you can vote on

Re: Sending email from the Mainframe

2020-07-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck
CSSMTP is a send only SMTP service - it does not receive anything. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message-

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread David Spiegel
Yeah, except that Fahrenheit degrees are smaller. For the same accuracy, you'd have to resort to digits to the right of the decimal point. Feh! On 2020-07-22 12:15, Bob Bridges wrote: Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to think much about it. It's so easy:

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Jackson, Rob
My high school physics teacher would be rolling in his grave about now. You don't weigh anything in kilograms. :) First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:16 PM

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
What about cubits and stadia? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? [External Email. Exercise caution

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
ObColePorter I call 40 °C TDH; in fact, local humidity being what it is, I call 30 °C (86 °F) TDH. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Pew, Curtis G

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Mike Hochee
Is it time to mind our Ps and Qs yet? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After

Re: Sending email from the Mainframe

2020-07-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 7/22/20 2:17 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: CSSMTP. No problem. IBM explains how to set up TLS with CSSMTP here (current z/OS 2.4 documentation link, subject to change): https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.halz002/cssmtp_tls.htm That means that z/OS's

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Joe Monk
Centigrade? It always thought it's Celsius. :) Joe On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 11:16 AM Bob Bridges wrote: > Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to > think much about it. It's so easy: 0s are cold, 10s are cool, 20s are > warm, 30s are hot. > > I get

Fwd: Tell me about COBOL - Planet Mainframe

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Regan
https://www.planetmainframe.com/2020/07/tell-me-about-cobol/ Regards, Mark T. Regan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Bob Bridges
I wondered whether someone would catch me on that. Yeah, I know AltaVista gave up the ghost a while ago. I still ~think~ "AltaVista"; I type "alta" in the address bar and select Yahoo from the list. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Programmer: We've all heard

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Bob Bridges
Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to think much about it. It's so easy: 0s are cold, 10s are cool, 20s are warm, 30s are hot. I get kilometers but I think in miles. For short measurements I like centimeters and millimeters, but I couldn’t tell you how tall

Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Tim Hare
I don't think this function exists, and I'm thinking about writing up a SHARE requirement for it (which I guess these days becomes an RFE but I'm a member of SHARE so I think I'll go that way). I thought I'd ask whether it would be used enough to justify going through that process. What I'm

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
I took me a while before I realized that, of course, kg is a unit of mass, not of weight; you weigh tings in kilogram-force (kgf or kgF). -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Mike Hochee
You might check out www.maxmind.com They offer a variety of 'Geo' prefixed databases, at least one of which contains domain names, possibly eliminating the need to do DSN lookups. HTH, Mike -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
I don't know but it sounds to me like kind of an inappropriate function to graft onto a sort program. Why not dollar to Euro conversion? Or meters to feet? Keep in mind (as @Shmuel said) that one IP address could have multiple "source" domains or URLs, and also that the mapping can change with

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Bob Bridges
I just think the word "Celsius" is ugly; "centigrade" is comparatively euphonious. A personal bias. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Do you know what constitutes a "hate crime"? Put your thinking caps on. What tools do we need to determine whether a crime was

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Jackson, Rob
A kilogram is not a weight, Bob. Never has been; never will be. I'm not one to be anal-retentive. This point is more important than anything like that. I like your quote. That was a wise person. First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
Shirley 98.6. Wiki claims "The normal human body temperature range is typically stated as 36.5–37.5 °C (97.7–99.5 °F)." -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of

SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread Roberto Halais
Listers: My company has decided to forego FTP and go the SFTP way. I have installed OPENSSH and have SFTP working. I installed using the IBM user's guide and everything installed in the default libraries. My concern is, when we migrate to a new z/OS release do I have to do the whole install

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
When I was a kid a hundred years ago, the canonical term was 'centigrade', based I assumed on the 100 degree span between the freezing and boiling points of water. The term was logical and fit into a world view that included metric measurements and decimal currency. And who the heck was Celsius

Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread Allan Staller
OPENSSH is pretty tightly integrated into the /etc file system (separate from the root file system). I have not head of IBM any maint touching /etc in a long time. As long as you don’t replace the /etc physical file , you should be fine. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Tell me about COBOL - Planet Mainframe

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'm all for training more programmers in languages till in use, e.g., COBOL, PL/I, but that won't solve the problems on the fron ends that are not written in, e.g., COBOL, but in languages for which there are lots of programmers. It's not a hardware issue and it's not a language issue; it's a

Re: Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Martin Packer
If it were me I’d probably extract the IP addresses, use another program to look them up, then do a DFSORT / ICETOOL JOIN on the original report and the looked up IP addresses / domains. (And take any ambiguity as inevitable dirtiness in the data.) Cheers, Martin (NOT a DFSORT developer) Sent

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Bob Bridges
For weather I don't feel the need to distinguish between 67°F and 68°F. "High 60s" is close enough for most conversations. I suppose you already know this, but when someone (I forget who) first worked out the normal human temperature, he measured a number of people and arrived at an average

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Bob Bridges
Who doesn't? You may not, but lots of other people do. What am I missing, here? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Jackson, Rob
We have definitely devolved . . . like we always do on this forum. It's fun though, right? I agree on Celsius. The name disturbs me too. Centigrade is more pleasant for some reason. Reminds me of tardigrade. Now that is something we could all ponder and be better off. First Horizon Bank

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread David Spiegel
*98.6 On 2020-07-22 14:38, Bob Bridges wrote: For weather I don't feel the need to distinguish between 67°F and 68°F. "High 60s" is close enough for most conversations. I suppose you already know this, but when someone (I forget who) first worked out the normal human temperature, he

Re: Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
Keep in mind that multiple domain names can map to the same IP address. For that matter, a domain name can map to multiple IP addresses. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
As others of this list will chime in, please look at www.dovetail.com for their CoZ product line. There's the free, with no formal support, and the chargeable, with formal support. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roberto Halais Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread Roberto Halais
Thank you, Allan. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:25 PM Allan Staller wrote: > OPENSSH is pretty tightly integrated into the /etc file system (separate > from the root file system). I have not head of IBM any maint touching /etc > in a long time. > > As long as you don’t replace the /etc physical

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
From wiki: "Anders Celsius, 27 November 1701 – 25 April 1744) was a Swedish astronomer, physicist and mathematician. He was professor of astronomy at Uppsala University from 1730 to 1744, but traveled from 1732 to 1735 visiting notable observatories in Germany, Italy and France. He founded the

Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread Shawn Prenevost
Might be a good idea to have a unique file mount for OPENSSH itself so could easily do a mount swap to test a new version of OPENSSH without any zOS implications. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 1:30 PM Roberto Halais wrote: > Thank you, Allan. > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:25 PM Allan Staller >

Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread Kirk Wolf
IBM z/OS OpenSSH is a base feature of z/OS since V2R2. When you install a new version of z/OS you will get a new version. There are often migration actions from IBM having to do with /etc/ssh configuration settings. When moving releases you would at minimum want to review any changes that you

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Joe Monk
Kelvin (absolute temperature) is converted from Celsius. Centigrade doesn't exist. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 13:46 Jackson, Rob wrote: > We have definitely devolved . . . like we always do on this forum. It's > fun though, right? > > I agree on Celsius. The name disturbs me too. Centigrade is

Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Kirk's wisdom and the doc he references are OUTSTANDING. Co:Z SFTP is something you absolutely need if you want to use SFTP to access z/OS datasets. Be aware you will have to learn a few new tricks with the Co:Z SFTP server from the client side unless you are happy with only binary transfers.

Re: Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Scott Barry
Today this function is performed from within SAS (with reasonable success - some IP-addresses are not known to the z/OS resolver) using the SAS "pipe" engine and the USS "host" command, based on SMF 119 source-information references (the IP-address). Scott Barry SBBTech LLC On Wed, 22 Jul

Re: Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Steve Smith
I see no reason why SORT should be involved. A separate program to process the SORT output would be simpler, more flexible, and more robust. If you insist, an E35 could do it. But as an RFE, I think it's DOA. sas -- For

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020, at 19:41, Bob Bridges wrote: > Who doesn't? You may not, but lots of other people do. What am I missing, > here? That kg is a measure of mass, ie how much there is of something. One kg of sugar on earth is the same amount as 1 kg on the moon. Weight depends on gravity.

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jul 22, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > > Who doesn't? You may not, but lots of other people do. What am I missing, > here? As long as you stay near the earth’s surface, you can treat mass and weight as equivalent. But kilograms measure mass, not weight. If I go into orbit around

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
A kilogram may not technically be a weight, but if not the whole world, at least a large percentage of the world uses it as such. Looking at a package of dried fruit in front of me and it says net weight 340 grams which I believe translates to .34 kilograms. Rex -Original Message-

Re: Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> What I'm thinking about is a function (well, two) to take a binary > IP address and do DNS lookup, retrieving the host/domain name. At > the shop where I'm currently working, many logs don't do the lookup > when logging, to save some overhead. Tim, I think this RFE would be an ideal request

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Joe Monk
The measure of weight is a kgf. Kilogram force. It is a kilogram multiplied by 9.8 (gravity force). But in shorthand we say kilogram. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 15:36 Pommier, Rex wrote: > A kilogram may not technically be a weight, but if not the whole world, at > least a large percentage of the

Re: Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Tim Hare
I could try to do that but I was hoping to use just the tools I have. The nslookup command on z/OS (TSO and "TSO in batch" returns more than one line, which means writing a Rexx exec to parse it into something to match to the output of the other stuff

Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration

2020-07-22 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:54 PM Lionel B Dyck wrote: > > Be aware you will have to learn a few new tricks with the Co:Z SFTP server > from the client side unless you are happy with only binary transfers. And > neither FileZilla or WinSCP provide an escape value to issue the necessary > commands