Hi, Rowan
2015-08-03 4:31 GMT-03:00 Rowan Collins :
> On 2 August 2015 23:35:38 GMT+01:00, Marcio Almada
> wrote:
>>This is their email announce the end of their mailing list back in
>>2015
>>https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/rust-dev/2015-January/011558.html
>
> Amusingly, the first reply to t
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 18:36 +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> personally I would prefer moving to something like google groups and doing
> in a way that we can preserve archives (
I have no experience with google groups in a day o day usage basis. So
I can't judge what they might do better. But a fun
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Scott Arciszewski
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Terry Cullen wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tuesday, 4 August 2015, Johannes Schlüter
> > >> wrote:
>
> On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
>
>> On 04/08/15 17:12, Terry Cullen wrote:
>> Redmine would be a good option. http://www.redmine.org/
>>
>> The feature list has most everything covered in this thread.
>> http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/Features
>
> Feature lis
On 04/08/15 17:12, Terry Cullen wrote:
> Redmine would be a good option. http://www.redmine.org/
>
> The feature list has most everything covered in this thread.
> http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/Features
Feature list is nice, but is PHP really unable to provide a similar service?
On 04.08.2015 at 19:30, Stephen Coakley wrote:
> On 08/04/2015 11:36 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
>
>> maybe it just me, but it seems to me, that every time this idea is
>> brought
>> up, not many people from the actual participants of the list speak up,
>> but
>> bunch of people who never before sent
On 08/04/2015 11:36 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Terry Cullen wrote:
On Tuesday, 4 August 2015, Johannes Schlüter
wrote:
On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 17:15 -0500, Stephen Coakley wrote:
You have to admit, NNTP news is an aging technology, with fewer and
fewer readers a
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Scott Arciszewski
wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Terry Cullen wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, 4 August 2015, Johannes Schlüter
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 17:15 -0500, Stephen Coak
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Terry Cullen wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 4 August 2015, Johannes Schlüter
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 17:15 -0500, Stephen Coakley wrote:
>> > > You have to admit, NNTP news is an aging technology, wi
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Terry Cullen wrote:
> On Tuesday, 4 August 2015, Johannes Schlüter
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 17:15 -0500, Stephen Coakley wrote:
> > > You have to admit, NNTP news is an aging technology, with fewer and
> > > fewer readers available as time goes on. Now
On Tuesday, 4 August 2015, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 17:15 -0500, Stephen Coakley wrote:
> > You have to admit, NNTP news is an aging technology, with fewer and
> > fewer readers available as time goes on. Nowadays (for graphical
> > clients), there's Pan, and Thunderbird,
On 08/03/2015 02:31 AM, Rowan Collins wrote:
On 2 August 2015 23:35:38 GMT+01:00, Marcio Almada
wrote:
This is their email announce the end of their mailing list back in
2015
https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/rust-dev/2015-January/011558.html
Amusingly, the first reply to that is someone tr
On 02/08/15 22:56, Stephen Coakley wrote:
> A forum would be a reasonable alternative to a mailing list, however.
Yahoo groups is a forum style on-line but still retains a perfectly
functional email interface. WHY does the discussion have to be 'switch
to a forum' when there are perfectly good exa
> Am 03.08.2015 um 09:31 schrieb Rowan Collins :
>
>> On 2 August 2015 23:35:38 GMT+01:00, Marcio Almada
>> wrote:
>> This is their email announce the end of their mailing list back in
>> 2015
>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/rust-dev/2015-January/011558.html
>
> Amusingly, the first rep
On 2 August 2015 23:35:38 GMT+01:00, Marcio Almada
wrote:
>This is their email announce the end of their mailing list back in
>2015
>https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/rust-dev/2015-January/011558.html
Amusingly, the first reply to that is someone trying to set up an email gateway
to the forum
On 08/02/2015 05:35 PM, Marcio Almada wrote:
I'm not saying that we should do exactly the same thing. PHP is not
Rust. Rust is not PHP. But at least we could stop pretending our
process shouldn't be improved because the walls it offers supposedly
act as a filter for the one "who isn't able to get
Hi,
2015-08-02 17:46 GMT-03:00 Rowan Collins :
> On 02/08/2015 21:19, Marcio Almada wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> 2015-08-02 16:52 GMT-03:00 Rowan Collins :
>>>
>>> On 02/08/2015 20:10, Marcio Almada wrote:
As you pointed github issues, it's worth noting that Rust internals
already use gith
On 08/02/2015 07:52 AM, Rowan Collins wrote:
On 2 August 2015 13:01:57 BST, Dor Tchizik wrote:
I propose that internals discussion to be moved (eventually entirely)
to a
different medium, where the example I have in mind is GitHub issues
(but
that is up for discussion).
While I think a differ
On 08/02/2015 03:34 PM, Rowan Collins wrote:
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 11:04 PM Stig Bakken wrote:
Are you being serious? Can you provide examples of projects that have
successfully replaced their developer mailing lists with GitHub issues?
On 02/08/2015 21:05, Dor Tchizik wrote:
I already hav
On 02/08/2015 21:19, Marcio Almada wrote:
Hi
2015-08-02 16:52 GMT-03:00 Rowan Collins :
On 02/08/2015 20:10, Marcio Almada wrote:
As you pointed github issues, it's worth noting that Rust internals
already use github to manage RFCs:
https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+l
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 11:04 PM Stig Bakken wrote:
Are you being serious? Can you provide examples of projects that have
successfully replaced their developer mailing lists with GitHub issues?
On 02/08/2015 21:05, Dor Tchizik wrote:
I already have. iojs (and soon, nodejs), as well as Rust wh
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 10:05 PM Dor Tchizik wrote:
> I already have. iojs (and soon, nodejs), as well as Rust which was
> mentioned by someone else.
>
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 11:04 PM Stig Bakken wrote:
>
>>
>> Are you being serious? Can you provide examples of projects that have
>> successfull
Hi
2015-08-02 16:52 GMT-03:00 Rowan Collins :
> On 02/08/2015 20:10, Marcio Almada wrote:
>>
>> As you pointed github issues, it's worth noting that Rust internals
>> already use github to manage RFCs:
>> https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3AT-lang
>
>
> That's inter
> On 02 Aug 2015, at 22:03, Niklas Keller wrote:
>
>>
>> I remember it being pretty trivial - enter my e-mail address, verify my
>> e-mail address, skim-read the etiquette doc, start discussing.
>
>
> I agree with that. Getting RFC karma isn't that hard, at least not if your
> mail doesn't ge
I already have. iojs (and soon, nodejs), as well as Rust which was
mentioned by someone else.
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 11:04 PM Stig Bakken wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM Dor Tchizik wrote:
>
>> Hello internals!
>>
>> I wanted to propose a change to how PHP discussions are made.
>>
>> Cu
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM Dor Tchizik wrote:
> Hello internals!
>
> I wanted to propose a change to how PHP discussions are made.
>
> Currently, PHP discussions are held on the various mailing lists, managed
> by an old mailing list system, without any proper alternative interface to
> follo
>
> I remember it being pretty trivial - enter my e-mail address, verify my
> e-mail address, skim-read the etiquette doc, start discussing.
I agree with that. Getting RFC karma isn't that hard, at least not if your
mail doesn't get lost during hot discussions.
If you're not interested in a part
On 02/08/2015 20:10, Marcio Almada wrote:
As you pointed github issues, it's worth noting that Rust internals
already use github to manage RFCs:
https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3AT-lang
That's interesting. Do you have a link to any documentation on the
process
On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 19:17 +, Dor Tchizik wrote:
> Now, I get that the RFC process in PHP is different, but why is it that to
> even GET on the mailing list one needs to go through seven hells, only to
> be in the discussion (often completely irrelevant to what he's trying to
> do) for several
On 02/08/2015 20:00, Dor Tchizik wrote:
The mailinglist might be far from perfect (which some people also say
about PHP so there's a good match) but it is a well established way of
communication in the PHP-community. I strongly believe that it would be
counterproductive to change the way of commu
This is what I think. The best way to deter the community from making
contributions is to make it hard to contribute. My C/C++ savvy buddy told
me about an awesome feature he wants to see in iojs, I can tell him to go
on GitHub and raise the issue, discussion took place, and he'd submitted a
pull r
Hi,
2015-08-02 9:01 GMT-03:00 Dor Tchizik :
> Hello internals!
>
> I wanted to propose a change to how PHP discussions are made.
>
> Currently, PHP discussions are held on the various mailing lists, managed
> by an old mailing list system, without any proper alternative interface to
> follow and r
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 5:29 PM Andreas Heigl wrote:
> Hi Dor.
>
> > Am 02.08.2015 um 14:01 schrieb Dor Tchizik :
> >
> > Hello internals!
> >
> > I wanted to propose a change to how PHP discussions are made.
> >
> > Currently, PHP discussions are held on the various mailing lists, managed
> > by
On 02/08/15 15:29, Andreas Heigl wrote:
> And I'm not sure Whether I want someone messing arround with the language
> that powers 80% of the WorldWideWeb who isn't able to get his tools set up
> properly. But that's just my 2 arrogant cent.
Nothing arrogant about the comment ... what is more of
Hi Dor.
> Am 02.08.2015 um 14:01 schrieb Dor Tchizik :
>
> Hello internals!
>
> I wanted to propose a change to how PHP discussions are made.
>
> Currently, PHP discussions are held on the various mailing lists, managed
> by an old mailing list system, without any proper alternative interface
On 02/08/15 13:52, Rowan Collins wrote:
> As a final note, while encouraging new users is definitely a good thing, any
> project the size of PHP will always have a core set of developers who spend a
> lot of time working on and discussing it. If you make those people's lives
> difficult, no amou
On 2 August 2015 13:01:57 BST, Dor Tchizik wrote:
>I propose that internals discussion to be moved (eventually entirely)
>to a
>different medium, where the example I have in mind is GitHub issues
>(but
>that is up for discussion).
While I think a different medium could be worth considering, I don
Hello internals!
I wanted to propose a change to how PHP discussions are made.
Currently, PHP discussions are held on the various mailing lists, managed
by an old mailing list system, without any proper alternative interface to
follow and respond outside of mailing.
The discussion is hidden away,
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