RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-03-08 Thread Christian Stoller
When do you upgrade to a new release of php e.g. 5.3 - 5.4 - As soon as released - wait for the x.1 release - Once our OpCode cache supports it - When previous version hits EOL - When a new feature warrants the upgrade - When my Framework (Zend/Symfony/cake) or

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-03-07 Thread Niel Archer
When do you upgrade to a new release of php e.g. 5.3 - 5.4 - As soon as released - wait for the x.1 release - Once our OpCode cache supports it - When previous version hits EOL - When a new feature warrants the upgrade - When my Framework (Zend/Symfony/cake) or Software

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-03-07 Thread Leigh
On 5 March 2013 15:13, Paul Reinheimer preinhei...@gmail.com wrote: How many servers do you deploy code to Does this need a dev/test/prod split? I think this question should specifically address production servers only. (I'm not sure how this answer steers PHP as a language, but it might be

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-03-05 Thread Paul Reinheimer
Hi Everyone, So I threw this idea out there, then I sat down and tried to come up with questions I'd want answered. There's a bunch, those questions are easy. Then I tried to focus my questions, I wanted questions that could possibly affect or guide the development of PHP as a language. That got

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-03-05 Thread David Muir
When do you upgrade to a new release of php e.g. 5.3 - 5.4 - As soon as released - wait for the x.1 release - Once our OpCode cache supports it - When previous version hits EOL - When a new feature warrants the upgrade - When my Framework (Zend/Symfony/cake) or Software (Wordpress,

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-03-05 Thread Kris Craig
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:45 PM, David Muir davidkm...@gmail.com wrote: When do you upgrade to a new release of php e.g. 5.3 - 5.4 - As soon as released - wait for the x.1 release - Once our OpCode cache supports it - When previous version hits EOL - When a new feature warrants

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-27 Thread Lester Caine
Paul Reinheimer wrote: So my suggestion is simple, let's ask them: What they want, What they need, how they installed PHP (source, rpm, deb, provided by hosting provider, Zend Server), etc. Let's create a survey, and link to it prominently on php.net. I considered just writing a survey myself,

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-27 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I was in a van with my son-in-law yesterday and we got around to discussing websites and the like. I run his sites, but HE uses Joomla, so although it's PHP he has no interest in the language as such as long as Joomla

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-27 Thread Lester Caine
Pierre Joye wrote: hi, On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I was in a van with my son-in-law yesterday and we got around to discussing websites and the like. I run his sites, but HE uses Joomla, so although it's PHP he has no interest in the language as

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-26 Thread Clint Priest
On 2/20/2013 2:35 PM, Christopher Jones wrote: Hi Paul, My thesis is the other way round. More people in the community need to become PHP core developers. This is historically how PHP development has occurred, since nobody has idle time to adopt projects they are not 100% behind.

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-23 Thread Florin Razvan Patan
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Florin Razvan Patan florinpa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Christopher Jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com wrote: On 02/21/2013 03:02 AM, Florian Anderiasch wrote: On 02/21/2013 08:14 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: I do not have a single

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-22 Thread Florin Razvan Patan
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Christopher Jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com wrote: On 02/21/2013 03:02 AM, Florian Anderiasch wrote: On 02/21/2013 08:14 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: I do not have a single doubt. Why? Surveys are one of many ways to get feedback. They have no contracting

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-21 Thread Florian Anderiasch
On 02/21/2013 08:14 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: I do not have a single doubt. Why? Surveys are one of many ways to get feedback. They have no contracting values but give us some numbers about one rfc or another. That may help us to focus on one feature instead of another if we see a large number

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-21 Thread Christopher Jones
On 02/21/2013 03:02 AM, Florian Anderiasch wrote: On 02/21/2013 08:14 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: I do not have a single doubt. Why? Surveys are one of many ways to get feedback. They have no contracting values but give us some numbers about one rfc or another. That may help us to focus on one

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-20 Thread Kris Craig
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Paul Reinheimer preinhei...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, My apologies for the intrusion, I'll keep this brief. In many discussions over the past few months there has been talk about what the community at large needs. Pierre said just earlier today: I would

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-20 Thread Florin Razvan Patan
Hi Paul, On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Paul Reinheimer preinhei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, My apologies for the intrusion, I'll keep this brief. In many discussions over the past few months there has been talk about what the community at large needs. Pierre said just earlier today: I

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-20 Thread Kris Craig
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Florin Razvan Patan florinpa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paul, On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Paul Reinheimer preinhei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, My apologies for the intrusion, I'll keep this brief. In many discussions over the past few months

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-20 Thread Christopher Jones
On 02/20/2013 12:00 PM, Paul Reinheimer wrote: Hi All, My apologies for the intrusion, I'll keep this brief. In many discussions over the past few months there has been talk about what the community at large needs. Pierre said just earlier today: I would also say it us time for us to get

[PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-20 Thread Paul Reinheimer
Hi All, My apologies for the intrusion, I'll keep this brief. In many discussions over the past few months there has been talk about what the community at large needs. Pierre said just earlier today: I would also say it us time for us to get back in sync with the communities needs. I am not

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-20 Thread Kris Craig
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Christopher Jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com wrote: On 02/20/2013 12:00 PM, Paul Reinheimer wrote: Hi All, My apologies for the intrusion, I'll keep this brief. In many discussions over the past few months there has been talk about what the

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-20 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Chris, On Feb 20, 2013 9:36 PM, Christopher Jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com wrote: My thesis is the other way round. More people in the community need to become PHP core developers. This is historically how PHP development has occurred, since nobody has idle time to adopt projects