Digging throught that thread and the bela discussion of cache.
> There is only one proxy, but you are correct. For each
> transaction, a full snapshot is taken of the real object.
> All access to the object is done through one proxy.
The point being made was that there is another way to do thi
> >
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&g
> 1) POJO pojo = new POJO();
>pojo = (POJO)Versioned.makeVersioned(pojo);
That is really pretty tho :) You need to define the pojo as aspectable
(advisable).
> or
>
> 2) Define a constructor-pointcut on the POJO class (I will
> implement this
> today.)
nice,
marcf
> Agreed. A remote p
\
> What would really help is a forum2email gateway to relay new messages
> to an email address.
>
> I know that begging for features is not allowed here :) so if it an
> option to add that as a module to the new nukes stuff then I can help
> out with that.
OK :)
marcf
> S.
>
>
>
> --
On Thursday, Mar 27, 2003, at 18:25 Europe/Amsterdam, Bill Burke wrote:
We've been trying hard to keep the development forums as the base of
design
discussions. There's a lot of good information there.
The information there is good, but it is a pain to access the forums.
Here are some of the re
bject: Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration
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> Hiram Chirino wrote:
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> > That might be a problem if you have a big object
> > graph. You get a big penalty even if you only modify
> > a small peice of the object graph.
> >
> > You cou
Hiram Chirino wrote:
That might be a problem if you have a big object
graph. You get a big penalty even if you only modify
a small peice of the object graph.
You could do a shallow copy by getting a snapshot of
the fields of the object. Then wrap up the children
objects with "Versioned.makeVersion
Dave Smith:
> May God Bless America and Java.
That is a very humanistic thing that you wish here, but you make a small
typo.
As a friend of Java you know that Java is in Indonesia and Indonesia is the
country with the most Muslims all over the word.
So you should better write God Bless America and
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> That mig
On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 09:57 AM, Bill Burke wrote:
Yes, its a deep copy which is why I require Serializable.
new MarshalledObject(obj).get();
Maybe there is a better way to make copies?
Yes. I wrote an object copier service for just this type for
situation. In CMP the spec requires u
o this now??
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hiram
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> >I'm not sure...The problem with Versioning and Remoting is
> that a proxy
> object is required. You have to return a different object
> than the one
> actu
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> On Thursday, Mar 27, 2003, at 03:28 Europe/Amsterdam, marc fleury wrote:
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> >> So in the quest to impove J2EE have you killed it?
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On Thursday, Mar 27, 2003, at 03:28 Europe/Amsterdam, marc fleury wrote:
So in the quest to impove J2EE have you killed it?
bla bla bla bla
marc fleury wrote:
do you motherfuckers realize how BIG this is?
obviously some of you don't get it, give it time, it will become very
obvious
It would be n
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> Bill,
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> If you use versioning on a POJO that is a the top of
> an object graph, will the children objects also be
> versions when they are modified???
>
>I'm not sure...The problem with Versioning and Remoting is that a proxy
object is required. You have to return a different object than the one
actually constructed.
>You getting me? I'm not sure if this can be done within bytecode
manipulation. I'll have to ask the Javassist guys.
Why? Bas
wrote:
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> Versioning -->
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> Hi bill,
>The v
IMPRESSIVE BILL! Congratulations! Not only does this is impressive, but it
is ridiculously EASY to use.
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on the communication layer.
Karthik
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code from the CVS?
Thanks
Karthi
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> >JBoss
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>JBoss Remoting is much more fabulous. We need to get the word out on
it...
I need to write some darn docs.. Too busy trying to get a new release
out on our side. Not enough hours in a day.
> I totally agree. And yes, a constructor pointcut is the way to go.
The only downside of constructor p
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> Bill,
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&
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> > "
"Pope Paul V ordered Bellarmine to have the Sacred Congregation of the Index
decide on the Copernican theory. The cardinals of the Inquisition met on 24
February 1616 and took evidence from theological experts. They condemned the
teachings of Copernicus, and Bellarmine conveyed their decision to Ga
Bill,
This is fabulous stuff. Good job.
Is there a way we might be able to use the AOP xml to dynamically do
your example below (as well as the clustered and remoting) for POJOs
during construction time? In other words, could you not have an
interceptor on a constructor pointcut that would do th
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> Too bad that the
]
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> :rotfl .. a Frenchman want
:rotfl .. a Frenchman wanting action
This is hot shit. Plain and simple. Take the J2EE spec and piss all over
it. When you wrote it your mind was small and feeble, we have seen the
light.
The question is how long before the world realizes it or does J2EE
implode and we all are paying homag
: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration
>
>
> > So in the quest to impove J2EE have you killed it?
>
> bla bla bla bla
>
> > marc fleury wrote:
> >
> > >do you motherfuckers realize how BIG this is?
>
> obviously some of you don'
> So in the quest to impove J2EE have you killed it?
bla bla bla bla
> marc fleury wrote:
>
> >do you motherfuckers realize how BIG this is?
obviously some of you don't get it, give it time, it will become very
obvious
enough wasted time in the U.N. Time for some good ol' action
marcf
---
Too bad that the whole world is more intretsed whether or not JBOSS will
become J2EE certified.
I was reading an article about Unintended Consequences that made me
think of the current J2EE cerification vs. JBOSS 4.0 with AOP.
In 1349 the black plague was spreading around Europe. In castles
second revolution,
I just can't say how excited I am.
We are doing magic, critical mass.
Julien goes "I got a silly idea.."
bill makes it real, there is war..
we are doing RAW stuff, and rarely
was I that excited about it all...
you ain't seen nothing yet wankers
PLgC
marcf
> -O
do you motherfuckers realize how BIG this is?
no?
there is close to NOTHING in 20,000 pages of J2EE about this.
marcf
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I just want to give credit to Julien Viet as well who pitched that idea
when he was in ATL,
kudos Bill, you are in orbit, the pings in your head, the code in CVS,
let them fight, let's move
marcf
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