Re: KR> Bolt hole reemer

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

If you really want to get "nut-so" and it is a tight fit (i.e., bolt to WAF
hole w/interference) you could always toss the bolt into your deep freezer
before insertion. You should definitely see a reduction greater than 0.0005"
- of course you could do a trial with a calibrated micrometer (if you can
afford one with the proper resolution - remember the 10:1 rules of
precision) and see how much reduction in diameter you actually get between
70F and =20F (where I keep my deep freezer - steaks last forever). As usual,
your results may vary.

Mark W
N952MW (res)

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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 6:29 PM
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Subject: Re: KR> Bolt hole reemer

On 12/18/2020 5:38 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
>
> I use straight reamers to ream valve guides to the perfect size after 
> installation

++

I'm guessing that would not be a job for a "Sears" drill bit. Sometimes 
us "high school physics engineers" survive in spite of ourselves.

Larry Flesner


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Re: KR> Wing tanks

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Okay, maybe I'm not too bright... I need to understand how you get reduced
load on the wafs with fuel in the outer wing. Assuming 6 pounds per gallon,
how does (for example) a 10 gallon wing tank reduce stress on the waf if
(lift issues aside) you maneuver in any direction, considering inertia and
mass, that the 60 pounds in each outer wing doesn't affect the load on the
wafs? 

If the fuel is in the wing stubs and/or a header tank, I could see how the
'load' on the wafs might be neutral (all things considered), but with moment
arm considerations, wouldn't hanging that 60 pounds or so out at the outer
wing increase the flex load at the waf? 

Just asking for a friend. The CG issue would (I would think) depend on
placement of the tanks - wing or tip - relative to the "normal" CG
calculations for the airframe.

Blue skies, calm winds.

Mark W
N952MW (res) still workin on it.

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Stirewalt via KRnet
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 5:34 PM
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Cc: laser...@juno.com
Subject: KR> Wing tanks

Larry said, 

> "Fuel in the outer wings also reduce the weight carried by the
W.A.F.'s."

That is so true.  Tip tanks, or outer wing tanks, carry with them great
advantages.  Not only do they carry weight without affecting CG to any
significant extent, but unloads stress at the wing root, making for a
more resiliant structure.  A third virtue, at least with tip tanks, is
their reduction of tip vortice drag, acting as winglets.

Mike
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Re: KR> cost to build airplane

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

And you'll be 50% short! :) 

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Subject: KR> cost to build airplane


I've been ordering (and installing) parts on the KR and the Challenger 
recently and I'm reminded that to estimate the cost of building an 
airplane you take you best guess, double it, then add a 20% cushion.

Larry Flesner


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Re: KR> ADS-B out

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Hey Larry; did you take the opportunity to remind Uavonix that the market for 
their product is probably larger in the experimental crowd (maybe not KR, but 
how about RV?) than certificated... the certificated guys have money to buy 
Garmin and other solutions and probably will because it integrates better with 
what they already have.

JMHO.

Still collecting parts...

Mark W
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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 5:12 PM
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Subject: KR> ADS-B out


I've been putting off buying an ADS-B out unit for months now.  I 
intended to purchase the tail light unit for ease of install. Then I 
heard sale on those units would end and only available as "certified" 
units.  I placed an order for one at the last place they were available 
and missed it by a day or two.  NO LONGER AVAILABLE.  So, plan B was a 
wing tip unit but I wasn't looking forward to making a mount on my 
Horner style tips with a 22.5 degree slant.  Uavionics claimed 12 
degrees was the max angle off vertical for a mount.  I wasn't too 
excited about making a spacer and figuring how to mount the whole unit 
to a single layer of glass over foam on the tip.

I spent the day at the airport and made a .016 aluminum mount.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vigzoag6ch4nhw9/image00%20copy%202.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/52lov8inb6xf1pg/image00-1%20copy.jpg?dl=0

Now that it is mounted and working I'll go back tomorrow and remove the 
entire unit (I used quick disconnects on the wiring) and use the mount 
as a template to make a new one with the addition of a tab on the bottom 
to take the flex out of the mount.  I'll clean up the nicks and dings I 
put on the wing tip and next time I'll wait for the paint to totally dry 
before handling.  You know how it goes, paint feels dry, can't wait, get 
fingerprints  and dirt on the fresh paint.  Then I can program it, if I 
don't do that before I remove it, and do an air test next week.

When I called Uavionics last week to inquire about the mount angle I 
expressed my disappointment (and the experimental crowd) about how 
Uavionics let the experimental crowd prove their product and then quit 
selling the unit to experimental fliers and jack the price up $500.  If 
they had equal competition, price and produce, I would have gone with a 
competitor.

Updates to follow..

Larry Flesner

Southern Illinois



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Re: KR> fixed trim tabs

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Keep in mind that I am still a 'wanna be', but it seems to me that if one
were to take some 1" X 3 or 4" boards of the appropriate length, placed top
and bottom, and use a couple of wood working clamps over the tabs/ailerons,
Mark Jones attachment method would allow you to bend the tabs to your
heart's content without damaging anything. i.e., the boards would take the
load from bending... aluminum is pretty soft; 0.010" to 0.030" thick. Much
thicker might be a problem. JMHO

Mark W
N952MW

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Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 9:15 AM
To: Mark Jones via KRnet
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Subject: Re: KR> fixed trim tabs

Mark Jones wrote:

 >> I too had this style trim tab on my aileron. The way I mounted mine 
was with 3M double sided tape and I put over 500 hours flight time on it 
and it never loosened up. Mounting it this way is just another way to 
reduce a little drag.  <<

I mounted mine with screws because bending the aluminum while mounted 
could damage the trailing edge of the control surface.  I guess if you 
used .010" aluminum sheet that would probably work though, but then I'd 
worry about flutter (I'm not happy if I'm not worried about something). 
With screws I can remove it in half a minute, measure it, bend it on the 
brake, and reinstall without damaging anything.That's getting it 
dialed in to start with, but a prop change later can also require 
another adjustment.  With N891JF, tiny drag contributors are not 
something I worry about, and I'm not sure how sturdy these trailing 
edges were constructed

Mark Langford
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Re: KR> Who are you?

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

I think it is pretty simple. If you intend to build, reserve your N number with 
the FAA... I've had mine (N952MW) reserved for too long, but I renew the 
reservation every year. It is about 10 bucks and identifies you to the aviation 
community, and when you get your plane (KR-2(S) or any other) you have already 
reserved the ID for personalizing your freedom machine. 

I have a project purchased from a guy in Mechanicsville New York (Robert Smith) 
that is awesome work and have been collecting parts for over 10 years (I'm 
running out of excuses). 

All that aside, you can set your e-mail to attach any signature, or multiple 
signatures to choose from... it makes no difference if it is gmail, yahoo mail, 
outlook, or whatever: they all work the same. You can even set your response to 
be identical to the mail you are responding to (i.e., text for text, etc.)

Even the Microsoft e-mail Ap lets you do the same.

CAVU to everyone.

Mark W
N952MW

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Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 5:03 PM
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Subject: Re: KR> Who are you?

Just so everyone knows, I am not pointing a finger at anyone as there are way 
too many people that post and don’t sign it. Would you trust someone’s comments 
and suggestions in a post that they will not even put their name on. I don’t 
care how smart a post is written if it is not signed by the author why should 
we trust our lives to it. Oh don’t even start on it being a liability issue. 

Airplane kits will start looking like an airplane if you don’t give up working 
on it. 

Mark Jones
Oldsmar, Fl

N771MJ  “WunderBird”
www.flykr2s.com
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> On May 10, 2020, at 5:42 PM, John Martindale via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Quite right Mark and my apologies to all for omitting my name on my last 
> post about autopilots if it is that to which you refer. An innocent oversight 
> on my part.
> 
> Regards. 
> John Martindale 
> Sapphire Beach
> Australia
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 May 2020, at 10:29 pm, Mark Jones via KRnet  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For the life of me I can not understand why people post on our Net and 
>> continue not to sign your post so we know who we are hearing from. You don’t 
>> have to reveal any personal info about you but at least a name would be nice 
>> if it is just a first name. Besides it is just plain courteous to do so. 
>> 
>> Mark Jones
>> Oldsmar, Fl
>> 
>> N771MJ  “WunderBird”
>> www.flykr2s.com
>> flyk...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: KR> ADS-B Out

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

For those with nothing better to do, you could always read this
document from the FAA technical guys:
https://www.gps.gov/technical/ps/2008-WAAS-performance-standard.pdf -
it's a little out of date, but I 'm sure there is one more current out
there.
Happy reading!
Mark WN952MW (res)

-From: "Jeff Scott via KRnet"

To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: "Jeff Scott"
Sent: Monday January 13 2020 10:20:43AM
Subject: Re: KR> ADS-B Out

 You are into a gray area there. There is WAAS, and then there is high
integrity WAAS, which is what the FAA is requiring for ADS-B out. The
ADS-B Out system will report the GPS integrity level, and you can read
it in your PAPR report.

 -Jeff Scott

 >
 > But maybe I didn't answer Joe's questionI assume any GPS will
work
 > with itit's just a + and - battery connection and a single data
 > line...three wires total. It needs to be WAAS for accuracy, and I'm
not
 > clear on whether or not certification with an ADS-b is reliant on a
 > specific GPS, but I'm guessing anything WAAS-capable would suffice.
I'm
 > sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong
 >
 > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
 > ML "at" N56ML.com
 > www.N56ML.com

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KR> Corvair engine mount for KR2S

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Yeah I know, most of you guys would say "quit being lazy" and weld up your
own, but does anyone have a FWF engine mount for a Corvair suitable for a
KR2S? Just the mount, don't need extras!

Thanks!

Mark W.

N952MW (res)


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Re: KR> Very quiet.

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

As a response to Craig's comment... the KRnet site is pretty good as a text
based vehicle... having said that, nothing prevents anyone from providing a
link. You can get a pretty good site for free with WordPress, Yahoo groups
is changing, but is an opportunity, and as Craig mentioned FB will work. 

So, having said that, post your link on the krnet site - everyone can get
there if you provide a direct link (tiny url is okay, but not needed if you
have your own site). 

JMHO, and as the saying goes, your mileage may vary! Happy flying! 

Mark W
N952MW (res)

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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:06 PM
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Subject: Re: KR> Very quiet.

I think it's because your limited on the file size here.  Over on the
facebook page we get alot of pics and 


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Re: KR> cover material

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Hi Stef;

A little outside the box, but potentially easy. Even though you are in the
EU, you may be able to go on Amazon and buy a car cover (they are
waterproof/resistant and most have a soft lining) for about $20 (US)) cut it
down to the size you need and have someone baste the edges and add grommets
to fit the size you need. Use long bungees to hold it on.  If you plan the
cuts, you may be able to make two or three canopy covers out of it!

Just my thoughts, and if it doesn't work, you are only out less than $50 US
and some time. As the netters like to say, your mileage may vary. Good Luck.

Regards,

Mark W.
N952MW (res) - still working on it.

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM Stef den Boer via KRnet  HI,
>
> I need to buy a cover over my canopy, what do you use for material. I
> tought to use a old blanket, but last weekend I was at a flyin and see the
> other stuff (soft on the canopy side and water proof on the outside)
>
> Is there someone of you made your own cover..what kind of materiall did
> you use and where did you buy it?
>
> Hope some of you have a cheap solution.
>
>
> Stef
>


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Re: KR> top end overhaul

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Larry Flesner wrote: 
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Sent: Monday, June 3, 


Why do we "break in the rings" on an aircraft engine and not on our 
automobiles, trucks, tractors, lawn mowers, outboard motors, etc.?  Just 
wondering..

When you buy a new car your just go out and drive it home.  On my new 
mower last week I just started it and mowed the lawn.  What am I missing?

Larry Flesner

[Mark Wegmet] >

Maybe it is different in 2019 (or somewhat earlier), but when I bought my new 
2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe with the two liter turbocharged motor, there were 
specific break-in instructions provided - keep it between 2000 and 4000 rpm for 
the first 500 miles: don't exceed 50 miles an hour and vary the speed and 
loading (change gears often and vary the rpm) for the first 50 miles, etc. 
After the first fifty and up to 500 don't exceed 60 mph (~2000 rpm in top 
gear).  So my question would be, is it true that car and trucks don't need any 
special break in? Today's motors would be race motors 'back in the day' (think 
'60s and '70s) and they are nearly bullet proof. I put 276K on my '96 Firebird 
with an LT1 before blowing a head gasket due to overheating. It came with a 
much lesser drive train warranty than the Hyundai (2 years vs the 10 year 
Hyundai drive train). 

All motors (and drive trains) need proper rebuild and break in discipline. 
Doesn't make any difference if it is at 0 AGL or 10K AGL, the motor doesn't 
know where it is. 
As many on this forum like to say... your mileage may vary and JMHO.

Mark W.
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KR> Mr. Langeschwische's book

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

https://www.amazon.com/Stick-Rudder-Explanation-Art-Flying/dp/0070362408/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Z3XM6LKE412W&keywords=stick+and+rudder+by+wolfgang+langewiesche&qid=1555795395&s=gateway&sprefix=stick+and+rudder%2Caps%2C209&sr=8-1

probably the best $17 you'll spent... even if you have been flying for 
decades...

Cheaper and less aggravating than taking the grand kids to breakfast!

Normal disclaimer: JMHO and your mileage may vary! :)

Mark W
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Re: KR> Green Foam Board

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

As a suggestion, you might want to look at "Advanced Composite Techniques" by 
Zeke Smith (available on Amazon and other places). Also the Glassair site has 
some interesting info. 

Back in the beginning when I thought I had money, I looked into the Glassair 
III RG (I'd buy one if I could afford it) and was sent a package with just 
epoxy reinforced glass (I'm familiar, I used to build circuit boards), foam, 
and an epoxy/glass fabric/foam sandwich... the last was "bullet proof", the 
others not so much. The stress matrix of the sandwich is significantly higher 
than the individual components (i.e., the whole is greater...).  So the foam 
does contribute to the overall strength of the structure. 

The reference explains the technical elements of the physics of the composite 
structure that even quality engineers / operations guys like me can understand. 
I think I spent about $15 for the book - well worth the investment if you want 
to earn the right to sing the sanding song. As usual, JMHO, and your results 
may vary.

Mark W. 
N952MW (res)

Virg (and others) wrote 

-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Virgil via KRnet
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:51 PM
To: Ken Henderson via KRnet
Cc: Virgil
Subject: Re: KR> Green Foam Board

 The foam is just for shaping. The loads are carried by the fiberglass 
skin, 

Virg

On 4/10/19 9:39 PM, Ken Henderson via KRnet wrote:
> Parley,
>
> Not knowing the original color I cannot make that..


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Re: KR> Rotax 912

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Just my opinion, but to respond...

-

Larry F wrote

Knowing the KR crowd, I'd say it's because $16,500 to $20,000 new for 80 
to 100 hp is a bit on the pricey side.  Even used at half price is still 
what most builders spend on that level hp new.

I wish I had the money for a Franklin 4A-235, 125 hp for $15,900.  A 
lightweight 2S with that kind of hp and a good aerodynamic cleanup and 
you could be dusting RV's.

Hey, I can dream, can't I?

Larry Flesner
> 

Not to mention, the motors cited cost as much as some folks have in the KR they 
fly nice to see the rich guys think the KR series is a viable flyer!! :). I 
had sticker shock big time when Garmin announced their "affordable" 
experimental glass panel 10 years ago+ @ 25K! 

I'm still working on projects started by others... hope to fly before I die!

Mark W.
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Re: KR> Ads-b

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Lee and netters:

https://uavionix.com/products/skybeacon

I'm surprised that KRNET folks haven't been talking about this. It started out 
as for experimentals, and now has STC's for a lot of certificated aircraft. 
This plus Stratux (you can build your own for ~$200) will give you an easy to 
implement cost effective package. I've built the Stratux, it is easy and took 
about a half a day/a day including making sure it works. You'd be out a 
week-end and about $2K.

Mark W.
N952MW (res)
>-
Lee Van Dyke wrote:

What is the best option to upgrade my plane.  I’m not talking cheapest, more 
like ease of install, and quality, as well as cheap


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Re: KR> KitPlanes comment by Mark L...

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

An additional benefit if you are a subscriber is that you can now download
pdf copies of all of the issues. This has cleared a huge amount of space
physically in my 'library' and keeps the recycle guys in business. A thumb
drive or CD takes up a lot less space than the magazine hardcopy.  Even
before the new editor, there was a lot of good info in the publication.

Mark W. 
N952W (res)

Mark Langford wrote... regarding KitPlanes 

-Original Message-
>From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark
Langford via KRnet
>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 2:27 PM
>To: KRnet
>Cc: Mark Langford
>Subject: KR> gluing foam to foam with ..

>.If you're not subscribing to KitPlanes magazine, you've been missing a 
>lot for the last few years.  The new editor is a serious breath of fresh 
>air, and has lit the place on "technical fire"!  It's easily twice or 
>three times as good as before.  I read almost every page of every  issue
 >of Kitplanes as I receive it.  I have a .
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KR> 5046 vs. 5048 airfoil

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

In addition to the below, is the 5046 airfoil designed for the standard RAF
48 spars? I recall the 5048 airfoil requires 'taller' spars. I am still
working with a project KR2S that was originally set up with the spars for
the RAF 48 airfoil and would rather not add the weight of laminating extra
material to the spar top and bottoms to use the 5048 airfoil.

Thanks,

Mark W
N952MW (res)

Mike Stirewalt wrote:

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Stirewalt via KRnet
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 3:48 PM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: laser...@juno.com
Subject: KR> Stall speed

MJ said, 

> "She will settle in as smooth as a babys and touch down around 70
mph."

Mark . . . did you put the new airfoil on this one?  

and question for anyone . . .

Does the new airfoil increase stall speed and, if so, by how much?  (just
curious)

For that matter, how much faster is it in cruise?  I'm sure the answer to
these last two questions are in the archive but rather than digging I
thought I'd ask it on the forum 



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Re: KR> EAA archives

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Hi Paul and Netters;

It looks like EAA made some changes. While the below links might not take you 
to the exact same place as the one Paul shared, the first one is for the 
Webinars with a link to the archive, and the second is for all the EAA videos. 

http://www.eaavideo.org/category/videos/webinars 
https://video.eaa.org/ 

I tested them and they work for non-EAA members as well.

Mark W.
N952MW (res)

Paul Visk wrote;

-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Ppaulvsk via 
KRnet
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:13 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Ppaulvsk
Subject: Re: KR> EAA archives

Chris said:  There is a huge amount of information in archives, just like the 
collected KR newsletters. Just about any question can be answered You're right 
Chris. I listen to The Archives quite often and most live presentations on 
Wednesday night also.  
https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-education-and-resources/aviation-videos-and-aviation-photos/eaa-webinarsOn
 10/30 the subject for that nights webinar is flying to the Bahamas.  I 
definitely won't miss that one. 😉Paul ViskBelleville Il.618-406-4705
 Original message From: Chris Kinnaman via KRnet 
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KR> tail wheel

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

To those of you that fly (actually takeoff, land, and taxi) with a tail
wheel set up, if you built one again from scratch, how would you do it and
which set up (brand/type) would you use?

Thanks for your time.

Regards,

Mark W.
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Re: KR> Carburetor throttle cable screws and how are other guys securing it

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

You may also want to check high performance auto sources for methanol rated 
braided stainless steel reinforced fuel lines with AN fittings. If it works on 
pro-stock and top fuel cars (nitro methane) with their associated vibration and 
stress, it will probably work on your KR. A typical set up is rigid up the 
firewall with a fitting similar to the first link that Larry posted, followed 
by braided SS with a loop to allow for motion while minimizing flex issues at 
each end of the hose.

Mark W.
N952MW
>--
Larry Flessner wrote:

These of correct size are good for fuel line.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/ms21919clamps.php?clickkey=3764

The flex hose from gascolator to carb should be mostly self supporting 
to allow for movement.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r0tppoor96tl9yz/IMG_9046.JPG?dl=0

See what length you need and go to a local race shop..


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Re: KR> Oshkosh 2019

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Another smaller option would be Burlington Municipal (KBUU) which is a
smaller non-towered airport with a nice paved runway and easy access to
town. Again, contact with airport management would be needed - I don't know
if they allow camping or have enough facilities for a large group, although
the FBO is accessible 24/7 with prior notice. Details are on the site. Check
http://www.burlington-wi.gov/130/Airport for contact info. It is also about
the same distance by air and avoids the melee around Whitman and the
surrounding airports.

Mark W.
N952MW

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Langford
via KRnet
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 6:48 AM
To: KRnet
Cc: m...@n56ml.com
Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh 2019

Mark Wegmet wrote:

> A fair number of folks use Kenosha Regional (KENW) as a stopping
> off/practice location.

I guess I'm borderline anti-social, but I'd rather stop at a small
airport that's not so popular.  I think the idea is a great onewe
used to go to Mark Jones' place in Stevens Point, and we had a blast
hanging out and swapping stories, cooking out, and have a beer or two
the night before, leaving early the next morning.  I do like the idea of
furthering this tradition, and second the motion of finding a suitable
place next year to do this...maybe even this year.   I regret that it'll
cost us money to stay in a hotel, but it'll be worth it to get in early,
beating the crosswinds and more importantly, the traffic. It might even
be possible to camp at the airport, if we can get that lucky. It also
helps us get a great parking space out in front of Homebuilders
Headquarters, and eliminates a lot of potential weather problems when
you're only a half hour away.  

One thing I'd like to add to Larry's excellent OSH writeup is to feel
free to go back to Ripon if things get too bunched up in front of you. 
It wouldn't be an OSH arrival if several folks didn't descend or climb
up in front of you, gutting your gap in half.  It makes maintaining 90
knots and 1800' a lot harder than it sounds.  One year I went back to
Ripon twice before I finally got lucky and made it all the way in.  The
best way for KRs to do this is to all go in together, with our speed,
altitude, and spacing all set up as we get to Ripon, forcing everybody
else to work around us.  If we go in early though, traffic shouldn't be
a big deal.

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com



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Re: KR> Oshkosh 2019

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

A fair number of folks use Kenosha Regional (KENW) as a stopping
off/practice location. You would need to contact the airport directly, but
there are a number of hotels/motels and other conveniences available. Check
with EAA, I would think that there is someone there who knows the right
contacts to make. (BTW, I work across the street from the airport and can
tell you that during the weeks before Osh' I get to watch War Birds and
Aerobatic folks often)... just sayin'. You would be about 45 minutes air
time in the Osh madness from touchdown at Whitman. You could also (surprise)
contact EAA directly for help.

Mark W.
N952MW (res)

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hurley
via KRnet
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 3:59 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Ken Hurley
Subject: KR> Oshkosh 2019

How about organizing a location close to Oshkosh that we meet at and then
fly together to Oshkosh? We got a year to plan.

Can we talk about it at our gathering in September?

Ken Hurley
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Re: KR> Gear legs

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

I’m just an engineer, it’s about geometry… just do the math. JMHO
 
Mark W.
N952MW
 
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Scott via 
KRnet
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:39 PM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: Jeff Scott
Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs
 
Man, I keep reading over and over that you can't just turn the gear brackets 
around to change the mains from a trigear to a tail dragger or vice versa.  
Sure glad the KRNet and all this knowledge didn't exist when I bought mine as a 
project.  It was a trigear then.  I turned the gear around and have flown as a 
taildragger for 1200 hours now just blissfully ignorant about having apparently 
done the impossible.  Perhaps I got away with it because I have the 30" gear 
legs, so had sufficient aft and forward "sweep" without changing the gear 
angles.  But what I do know is that I just remounted the gear brackets to the 
other side of the spar without redrilling anything and moved on with building 
the rest of the plane.
 
-Jeff Scott
Cherokee Village, AR
  
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 1:11 PM
From: "Sid Wood via KRnet" 
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: "Sid Wood" 
Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs
I have the template I used for my KR-2 Tri-gear using the Grumman blanks.
The template is for the aft facing gear legs. Tri-gear and tail dragger
legs are not interchangeable. The Grumman blanks are 1-inch thick; you will
need to plane them down to 3/4-inch thick. A bench mounted power planer
will do the job; just make several passes to gradually get it done. The
glass fibers are tough.
The difference for the aft facing and forward facing gear legs is the
location of the bolt holes and the sweep angle of the leg after it leaves
the spar mounting bracket. The forward facing gear leg does not sweep as
much as the aft facing leg. The toe is established when you drill the holes
for the axle adapter bracket. Fine adjustments for toe and camber can be
made with shims at the axle mounting bolts. Do it correctly when you drill
the holes in the fiberglass and you will not need the shims.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
California, MD, USA
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Re: KR> landing gear

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Which one gives better ground handling though? Isn't that what we are
looking for?

Mark W.
N952MW

-
Mark L wrote...

...gear leg castings as close as possible to the fuselage.  This yielded an
airplane that just 
barely fits into the back of a typical U-Haul

N56ML's castings were located considerably further out the spar to give 
it a wider stance...

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Re: KR> Keeping engine lubed

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

See below for Mike Stirewalt's original message...

One of the tactics that was used years ago on engines that had an oil pump
driven by the distributor was to pull the distributor and use a shaft with
the same engagement groove on the end with a variable speed drill to drive
the oil pump at low rpm while moving the crank with a wrench (optional). If
you don't move the crank, just reinsert the distributor/mag at the same
timing position as when it was removed... if you turn the crank, it is a
little more challenging to get the timing close. Not sure if Corvair and VW
engines have similar oil pump drives, but if they do, this might provide
some insurance on a restart of an engine that has been sitting. Mike's plan
for Marvel Mystery oil in the cylinders was also part of the method - the
oil pump static will not flood/coat the cylinders with oil, just all of the
oil galleys and bearing journals in the motor. Your results may vary. 

This in conjunction with STP/break-in lube on new motor's bearing surfaces
was common practice.

Mark W.
N952MW (res)

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Stirewalt via KRnet
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 1:41 PM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: laser...@juno.com
Subject: KR> Keeping engine lubed


"I had hand-turned the prop for 30 revolutions once a 
month to keep the parts lubricated."

I used to think this was a good idea and I'm not going to say it's a
_bad_ idea, however someone (perhaps Jeff) on the list pointed out many
years ago that unless the engine is turning at an RPM sufficient to get
the oil pump pumping, periodically turning the prop by hand doesn't bring
any oil up and onto the cam lobes and cylinder walls.



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Re: KR> Toe in or Toe out?

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Off point but, toe in / toe out is for "steerable" wheels... i.e., when you
take your high performance car into a hard corner, the toe as well as the
camber sets the stance of the car through the corner. When exiting, the toe
helps bring the wheels back to center along with the camber. Main wheels on
an aircraft are stationary relative to the suspension, so I would think that
camber might be more significant than toe. Again, JMHO.

Mark W. 
N952MW

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry Flesner
via KRnet
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 7:17 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Larry Flesner
Subject: Re: KR> Toe in or Toe out?


>
>where the wheel castings attach to the landing bar I can be Toe-in, 
>Neutral, or Toe-out. I've read some articles that promote Toe-out, but 
>they don't say how many degrees.
>Any suggestions, experience, or thoughts would be much appreciated.
>Ken Hurley
+

I've never really bought the theory for toe-in or toe-out and went with  as
zero-zero as I could get and zero camber when loaded.  Glad I did.  650
hours and my KR handles great on the ground.  Tire wear is non existent.  I
can't imagine that any aircraft using toe-in or toe-out could handle any
better than my KR.

Just wondering, do aircraft like Mustangs, Corsairs, DC3, B17, use toe-in,
toe-out, or neutral?

Larry Flesner 


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KR> There is already a yahoo KR2 group

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/kr2Sport

Doesn't get much traffic, but has been around for a while. Might be a good idea 
to see if a group (for anything) exists before starting another.
JMHO

Mark W.
N952MW (res)


-Original Message-
Owen wrote:

Hi Chris,  

Yes, sorry.  KRnet does not have facilities for files or pictures.  

The links were to an Osprey user group on Yahoo that I’ve been on since 2000.  

I just put together a KRaircraft Yahoo group to facilitate exchange of pictures 
and files.

You’ll have to join the group (just by requesting to join), then you’ll have 
access to the files, pictures, and forum.

You can get there though this link:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KRaircraft/info 


Cheers,
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Re: KR> KR Gathering at OSH?

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Maybe I'm not too bright, but isn't Whitman (sp) field (OSH) open all year
round? If EAA is open to the idea, why not see if they will "host" a KR
gathering at some other time than the circus (AirVenture). There is plenty
of real estate/camping and amenities, 'town' is not far away and the museum
is awesome. JMHO.

Mark W.
N952MW (res)

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hurley
via KRnet
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 8:12 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Ken Hurley
Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering at OSH?

Last year was my first year to attend. I thought the get-together was
excellent. This year's event hasn't happened but it sounds like Rob is doing
a great job. I won't for to this year's event but will in 18'. I live in SW
Missouri and I thought about hosting in 19. However maybe someone would like
to host it.

I'll be posting some pics of my new to me KR2 soon.

On Aug 24, 2017 7:54 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
>
> Some other groups host a fly-in near Oshkosh as an alternative to 
> Oshkosh, but also close enough that the members can hop over to 
> Oshkosh for a day or two if they choose.  For example, the SuperCub 
> crowd does a great Fly In over an New Holstein, WI.  They hold a STOL 
> contest, Fly Young Eagles, do several Fly Outs, and hold a pig roast.  
> It goes on all week.  That way those like me that would just as soon 
> avoid the mass of humanity can, and those that want to go join the 
> masses can do so.  But it's also important to keep in mind that these 
> guys have numerous fly-ins all over the country every year, so they get
together as a group a lot.
>
> From my personal perspective, if the KR Gathering moved to Oshkosh, I 
> would simply be done with the gatherings.  You would find me over at 
> New Holstein with the SuperCub bunch.  I suspect I am far from the 
> only one that would skip OSH. I simply do not like being part of the 
> masses of humanity and I could care less about watching military and 
> aerobatic air shows.  If I was going to fly into OSH, I would likely 
> fly the Supercub so I can haul all my camping gear.  The KR Gathering 
> is all about KRs.  In my opinion, it would be disastrous to dilute the 
> KR folks into the masses at Oshkosh.
>
> As for moving the Gathering all over the country, you are a bit late 
> to that discussion.  We moved it to Chino,CA in 2014, then to 
> McMinnville, OR in 2015.  That pretty much excluded the east coast 
> folks and many of the midwesterners for 2 years.  There were only a 
> couple of us that flew to both.  In the time I have been attending the 
> Gatherings, it has been hosted in AR, CA, OK, IL, KY, OR, and this 
> year will be in MO.  I would call that spreading it around.  During 
> that time, we found that there is no place that offers us the quality 
> of venue at a central location like what Larry Flesner found for us by 
> hosting in Mt Vernon, IL.  It is simply a perfect venue with a large 
> open airport, multiple runways, lots of ramp space, available hangar 
> space, available meeting rooms, restaurant on the field to cater, 
> camping and showers on the airport, etc, etc, etc.  It simply doesn't 
> get any better than that, and they make it clear that whether Larry 
> hosts or not, Mt Vernon always wants us back.  That's the reason why 
> we have agreed to the central location with a fabulous venue and 
> incredible hospitality on an every other year basis.  It wasn't an
accident.  We love that place just like the SuperCub guys love New Holstein.
>
> If your interest is in OSH, I would suggest you host a get together on 
> Monday of the convention as there are a few KRs there and some of the 
> KR guys, namely Mark with Larry's help, host the KR forum.  You will 
> find some of the KR faithful at the forum.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
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Re: KR> torque wrench

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Speaking as a Quality Engineer for a company that builds torque instruments
for orthopedic surgeries, I would suggest that you find a calibration lab
nearby that can qualify your torque wrench to a standard traceable to NIST
(like we do!). However, keep in mind that torque is a byproduct of what you
really want to measure - clamping force, which is based on the tensile
strength/elongation characteristics of the material(s) in question - back in
the day, when tightening some fasteners (like connecting rod bolts) we
always used new, properly graded bolts and actually measured the change in
bolt length.

Just sayin'

Mark W.
N952MW

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of n357cj via
KRnet
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:09 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: n357cj
Subject: Re: KR> torque wrench

OOH...It's Friday and this so begs for an answer. 
   I've heard that everyone has a guy. A guy to fix the car,... a guy to mow
the lawn, a guy to clean the gutters, plumbing, electric, and on and on..I
figure I'm the guy, no body touches or does anything for me that I can do
myself, At church I'm the guy, At work ...I'm the guy, Heck that is even how
I sold myself to the beautiful girl that I'm engaged to... so send that bad
boy wrench on over -I'll figure out how to calibrate the stink right out of
it. But hey there is a flip side to being the guy. On  that rare occasion
that God forbid I might be wrong. I just would tell ya that I have far more
opportunity to make a mistake just because ...you know... " I'm the guy"...
name being withheld for safety reasons...


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F verify my torque wrench is in calibration when I start engine assembly in
the next few days.

That begs the question: Who calibrates the calibrator, who inspects the
inspector, and who answers questions for the answer man? Just
wondering...

Larry Flesner
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Re: KR> Dynon Duel Band ADS-B

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

It's been on the net before, but as a reminder... Raspberry Pi with Stratux 
(google Stratux for all the info)... you can build the same functionality for 
about $80 if you want cheap, and about $120 if you want fancy. It is open 
source and it only took about 2 hours for my first one, and I expect (now that 
I know what I'm doing) it will take about 30 - 45 minutes for a "fancy" one.

Featured in EAA's Sport Aviation as well as links on this newsletter. 
http://stratux.me/ for those who are 'search challenged'. Fired right up with 
my Foreflight ap on my iPad.

Mark W
N952MW

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Visk via 
KRnet
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:06 PM
To: KR EMAIL BOARD
Cc: Paul Visk
Subject: KR> Dynon Duel Band ADS-B

Just got an email from Dynon.  They now have a dual band a ADS-B receiver.  I 
guess we talk some sence  into Kirk at the McMinnville gathering.  


Paul Visk Belleville Il.
618-406-4705
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Re: KR> OneDrive pics

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

One drive is based on your Microsoft account. If you run a computer with any of 
the recent MS operating systems, part of the installation was registering your 
O/S - as soon as you did that, you set up a MS account which is tied to all of 
your MS apps. Your login would be the same as the one you log in to your 
computer with. If you have your computer set up to launch with no password, the 
password One Drive wants is the one you used initially to set up your computer.

Try that and see if it works.

Mark W
N952MW(res)

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To: KRnet
Cc: pi...@mymts.net
Subject: Re: KR> OneDrive pics

I don't understand why that is. I haven't used ONedrive before ( always 
Dropbox) but apparently it is not supposed to need a password.
 Is there someone more knowledgeable about it?
Bob R

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From: "Daniel Heath via KRnet" 
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Cc: "Daniel Heath" 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:24:46 AM
Subject: Re: KR> OneDrive pics

It is requiring a password?

Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC



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Re: KR> Mole tail

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Wasn't Dana Overall the builder of an RV7 called Black Magic? If so, his
build site is still on line. It is my recollection that he sold it. Nice RV
though.

Mark W.
N952MW(res)


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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Langford
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:56 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Mark Langford
Subject: Re: KR> Mole tail

The Mole Tail was designed by Aeronautical Engineer Richard Mole, after he
did a stability analysis on the KR2 and S "listed" CG range was out of whack
on the aft end, and that the last two inches should be avoided. 
  Dana Overall was given the dimensions and built the tail that I enclosed
this morning.  I don't know the whereabouts of that plane, but it was too
far along for somebody to simply scrap or strip for parts, and it was a
KR2S.  For more on the Mole Tail, see
http://www.krnet.org/misc/mole_tail.pdf .  Richard is almost building a new
plane, and he's probably pushing 80 these days.  I'm hope I'm even half as
sharp  as he is when I get there...

Mark Langford
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Re: KR> insurance claim payouts

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

You might also consider an "umbrella" policy that covers liability costs
above your other insurance policies. Mine is about $400 for 1MM and covers
all of my polices - auto, home, etc. Some have exclusions so be sure to
check.

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via KRnet
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 12:34 PM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: Oscar Zuniga
Subject: KR> insurance claim payouts

Sometimes you just don't have a choice when it comes to carrying liability
insurance.  One of the requirements for renting a hangar at our airport
(tower controlled, with scheduled commercial flights) is to carry $1M of
liability.  Actually not a bad idea when you consider that I could easily
cause that much damage to a bizjet or even a hangar with a couple of loaded
Cirruses parked in it if my throttle jammed open or my hand-prop taildragger
got away from me.


I pay $1/day for liability coverage on my Pietenpol Air Camper.  Worth it.


Oscar Zuniga

Medford, OR
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Re: KR> Melting lead

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Forgot to mention - not a household oven, but an industrial oven - 63/37
SnPb weighs in at about 570#/cu. Ft. 

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Wegmet
via KRnet
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 6:38 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Cc: Mark Wegmet; 'Sid Wood'
Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead

If it is a true eutectic, you can put it in an oven set at 425F - 63/37 SnPb
melts at 361F. If you have a ladle and are VERY careful with appropriate
PPE, you can transfer it to your new pot. If your old pot has a "drain" set
up, again, with proper PPE, you can 'dump' it into the new pot. Obviously,
you will destroy everything on your old pot except the solder pot itself by
doing this.

You could also disassemble your old set up and build a mini kiln with
firebrick/refractory brick and propane or gas torches to accomplish the same
thing.

I hope you are knowledgeable about handling molten metal... this is not a
task for the uninitiated.

BTW, I spent almost 30 years building circuit boards, including assemblies
with SMD fine pitch, wave solder systems, IR/Solder paste, etc. In any event
BE CAREFULL!

Mark W
N952MW

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Sid Wood via
KRnet
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:17 PM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: Sid Wood
Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead

Lead can be melted with direct application of a propane torch.  That does
tend to oxidize the lead, so you do get more slag.  Solder is a mixture of
lead and tin.  These will oxidize at different rates under the torch flame. 
That could change the mixture ratio of the solder.  Maybe not a big deal,
but could be.  If you can get at the underside of the pot, suggest you apply
the torch there.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
--

Speaking of melting lead, I have been trying to figure out for the past few
days how to deal with my solder pot that just crapped out that I use for
mass soldering of circuit boards.  It is a big 2,000 Watt electric pot that
is regulated at 250 degrees C.  I have a new solder pot on the way, but am
trying to figure out the best way to melt out the 75 pounds of solder in the
old pot and put it in the new one.  At today's prices for bar solder it is
$1,500 worth of solder.  It takes about an hour to melt when the pot is
working so I am not sure if I can effectively just remove the pot from the
whole machine and heat on the stove or heat it with a torch.  Withe any luck
the heating element on the new pot is the same as the old one and I can just
transfer it to the old pot.  Can't buy just the heating element.

Brian Kraut
904-536-1780
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Re: KR> Melting lead

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

If it is a true eutectic, you can put it in an oven set at 425F - 63/37 SnPb
melts at 361F. If you have a ladle and are VERY careful with appropriate
PPE, you can transfer it to your new pot. If your old pot has a "drain" set
up, again, with proper PPE, you can 'dump' it into the new pot. Obviously,
you will destroy everything on your old pot except the solder pot itself by
doing this.

You could also disassemble your old set up and build a mini kiln with
firebrick/refractory brick and propane or gas torches to accomplish the same
thing.

I hope you are knowledgeable about handling molten metal... this is not a
task for the uninitiated.

BTW, I spent almost 30 years building circuit boards, including assemblies
with SMD fine pitch, wave solder systems, IR/Solder paste, etc. In any event
BE CAREFULL!

Mark W
N952MW

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Sid Wood via
KRnet
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:17 PM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: Sid Wood
Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead

Lead can be melted with direct application of a propane torch.  That does
tend to oxidize the lead, so you do get more slag.  Solder is a mixture of
lead and tin.  These will oxidize at different rates under the torch flame. 
That could change the mixture ratio of the solder.  Maybe not a big deal,
but could be.  If you can get at the underside of the pot, suggest you apply
the torch there.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
--

Speaking of melting lead, I have been trying to figure out for the past few
days how to deal with my solder pot that just crapped out that I use for
mass soldering of circuit boards.  It is a big 2,000 Watt electric pot that
is regulated at 250 degrees C.  I have a new solder pot on the way, but am
trying to figure out the best way to melt out the 75 pounds of solder in the
old pot and put it in the new one.  At today's prices for bar solder it is
$1,500 worth of solder.  It takes about an hour to melt when the pot is
working so I am not sure if I can effectively just remove the pot from the
whole machine and heat on the stove or heat it with a torch.  Withe any luck
the heating element on the new pot is the same as the old one and I can just
transfer it to the old pot.  Can't buy just the heating element.

Brian Kraut
904-536-1780
br...@eamanuacturing.com






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Re: KR> 4-into-1 exhaust system help?

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Ceramic coating works and has thermal management benefits as well. 

Mark W.
N952MW (res)

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Wright 
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Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 2:00 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Ronald Wright
Subject: Re: KR> 4-into-1 exhaust system help?

Once you get your system built, take it and get it plated and it will last 
forever.  Nickel chrome or some other and it shouldn't be that expensive but 
might be worth checking into.
Ron

  From: Mark Langford via KRnet 
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Cc: Mark Langford 
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:56 AM
 Subject: Re: KR> 4-into-1 exhaust system help?
   
I gave up trying to find an exhaust system that even vaguely resembles what I 
have on N891JF.  I'm going to have to build another one that replicates it, 
unless I want to remove the engine, completely reconfigure the firewall and 
intake system, etc.  Building a new system, as painful as that sounds, is 
easier than the alternative.

I was going to build it out of 321 stainless until I checked the prices. 
  A 321 U-bend is $94, a 304 U-bend is $40, and a mild steel U-bend is $10.  I 
need 8 U-bends (four are actually J-bends, but same price), just to think about 
getting started, we're talking $800, not to mention collector, tailpipe, 
flanges, etc, if built from 321 stainless.  The existing one made it to 600 
hours and was mild steel.  I'll have N56ML back in the air before I put another 
600 hours on this one!

By contrast, my Corvair system was almost reasonable built from 321, because it 
is built so simply using only three U-bends for six cylinders.  But it's not a 
complex 6-into-1 system either, just a pair of simple 3-into-1 pipes.

I have everything I need to start on it, and that's what I'm doing all weekend, 
and probably next weekend as well.  I built two mockup engines, one with the 
old exhaust to measure distances and angles from, and the other as the fixture 
to build the new system onto. We'll see how it goes.

One thing I learned along the way is that Great Plains has no exhaust systems 
built, but they do have fixtures, so they are "to order" with a
30 day lead time.  The configurations are shown on their website at 
http://greatplainsas.com/scexhaust.html , none of which are similar to mine.  
Also, gauge size is not mentioned on their website, but they are 18g (.049"), 
rather than the 16g (.065")like the original exhaust system, so I had to get 
all materials elsewhere.  I did buy flanges from them, but am not enamored with 
them as the mounting holes are huge compared to the 8mm studs, so I'll have to 
carefully center the flanges to the ports before I start welding tubes to them.

Mark Langford
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KR> name issue

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

Didn't know that... makes things easier once you 'get it'. Very nice for us
lazy folks.

Larry Flesner wrote:

Under the new setup, the e-mail address of the sender appears with the KRnet
address when you hit reply.  Just delete the krnet portion of the "to" and
wa-la, you are replying to only the sender.  I like that.  Also, get into
the habit of deleting the individuals address when replying to the group.
That eliminates the sender getting two identical e-mails.  Thanks...

Also, it has yet to catch on about deleting all the unnecessary info in the
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