KR> Projects for Sale

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi All; 
I am trying to follow up on an email I received when I first posted about my 
projects. It was from someone in Calgary and for whatever reason I can't find 
the info. 
If that person is on here and reads this, could you please contact me. 
There is another fellow in Edmonton interested in some of the parts and I 
thought it might make sense if the two of you could share shipping for the 
parts or aircraft together. 
Thanks and I hope all are getting some flying in these days and staying 
healthy. 
Bob R 

Bob Russell 
Winnipeg Creative Wood Design 
3027 Roblin Blvd. 
Wpg. Mb. 
R3R 0B8 
204-981-0762 

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Re: KR> projects for sale

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

  Good luck finding a new home for your "stuff".

Larry Flesner


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Thanks Larry, I also remember our talks fondly.
Sometimes we have to move from something due to circumstances to clear the way 
for a new path forward.
Cheers and take care in these tumultuous times.
Bob

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KR> projects for sale

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

After a long debate with myself, I have decide to move away from the airplane 
projects that I have been trying to get to. I am interested in selling 
everything I have that is Kr related and there is a substantial amount. 
I have two projects, one is a Kr2 that is currently registered in Canada and 
that is in process of a total refurbishing so is currently dismantled. This had 
been a flying Kr with 64 hours on it but it ended up sitting as it passed 
through a few owners who did not do anything to it. I have all the paperwork 
right from the build of this airplane. It was an early plans build and came in 
at a bit over 400 lbs. with the retracts. 
I also have a Kr project that I picked up in Ohio that is well on the way , 
fuselage tail feathers and wings all done and the workmanship is very nice. I 
do not have any paperwork for this one. 
I also have a lot of extra parts , cowlings, turtledecks, fixed gear 
brackets(new) canopy frame , extra center and outer spars, a complete box of 
foam and some engine mounts. There are also a few propellers. 
I have a zero time Revmaster R2100D that is complete and ready to install. 
Life has taken a few twists lately and so I am just looking to get stuff off my 
plate. 
I would prefer to sell this lock, stock and barrel as a package and whoever 
buys it can probably recoup their investment after they decide what they want 
to keep. 
At this point I would take $4000.00 Canadian for everything and although I know 
we are struggling with border restrictions, I think it would be possible to 
work around that somehow. 

Bob Russell 
Winnipeg Creative Wood Design 
3027 Roblin Blvd. 
Wpg. Mb. 
R3R 0B8 
204-981-0762 

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Re: KR> Sprucing up my KR2.

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Colin.. let me know if you got my email please.
Thanks 

Bob Russell
Winnipeg Creative Wood Design
3027 Roblin Blvd.
Wpg. Mb.
R3R 0B8
204-981-0762

- Original Message -
From: colin hales via KRnet 
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: colin hales 
Sent: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:27:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: KR> Sprucing up my KR2.

Hi there all.

I'm trying to acquire spruce to remake the centre section main spars of my 
damaged KR2

 2.160 inch by 2 inch by 84 inches.

Spruce and Spec don't carry it anymore. They have everything else but nothing 
close to the '2 inch plus' square top and bottom main spar caps. I've got 
feelers out all over the world and I'm waiting for replies.

Either that or if anyone has got a completed set of main and rear centre spars 
kicking around. There is a set here in the UK, but that would mean breaking up 
a boat and wing completed project and I can't face doing that.

Cheers Colin H.
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Re: KR> Sprucing up my KR2.

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hey Colin, I may have a set of spars out in my hangar.If I do, you can have 
them , just pay the shipping and they are yours.
I will go look tomorrow as we just had a huge dump of snow .


Bob Russell
Winnipeg Creative Wood Design
3027 Roblin Blvd.
Wpg. Mb.
R3R 0B8
204-981-0762

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From: colin hales via KRnet 
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Sent: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:27:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: KR> Sprucing up my KR2.

Hi there all.

I'm trying to acquire spruce to remake the centre section main spars of my 
damaged KR2

 2.160 inch by 2 inch by 84 inches.

Spruce and Spec don't carry it anymore. They have everything else but nothing 
close to the '2 inch plus' square top and bottom main spar caps. I've got 
feelers out all over the world and I'm waiting for replies.

Either that or if anyone has got a completed set of main and rear centre spars 
kicking around. There is a set here in the UK, but that would mean breaking up 
a boat and wing completed project and I can't face doing that.

Cheers Colin H.
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Re: KR> KR1 on Craigslist

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi...
Can you give me more information on the Kr2 ?
Is it registered ? What are the issues with the engine and also could you send 
some pictures? 
Thanks
Bob

Bob Russell
Winnipeg Creative Wood Design
3027 Roblin Blvd.
Wpg. Mb.
R3R 0B8
204-981-0762

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From: BOB ROBERT via KRnet 
To: KRnet 
Cc: BOB ROBERT 
Sent: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:28:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: KR> KR1 on Craigslist

BOB  If you are looking for a KR2 in Canada I have one that needs work on
the engine
I am in British Columbia
I have medical issues
You can call me   604-220-0460boblal1...@gmail.com

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:30 AM Robert Russell via KRnet <
krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Hi All;
> In the ad it says "take it down to 49 % and call it your own" . I am just
> curious what that means.
> In Canada , you have to have various inspections along the way while
> building and one of those includes glue joint samples, dated and available
> for testing. Also requires  builders log and pictures etc. I seem to recall
> that it is not that stringent in the U.S.  but I found that statement in
> the ad curious.
> Are you able to buy a project without builders logs etc. and still bring
> it to completion? If so, how do you do that?
> Just curious.
>
> Bob R
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "svd via KRnet" 
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Cc: "svd" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:37:56 AM
> Subject: KR> KR1 on Craigslist
>
> This seems like a great deal:
>
>
> https://greenbay.craigslist.org/avo/d/luxemburg-kit-plane-high-performance-kr/6967555012.html
> <
> https://greenbay.craigslist.org/avo/d/luxemburg-kit-plane-high-performance-kr/6967555012.html
> >
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Re: KR> KR1 on Craigslist

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi All;
In the ad it says "take it down to 49 % and call it your own" . I am just 
curious what that means. 
In Canada , you have to have various inspections along the way while building 
and one of those includes glue joint samples, dated and available for testing. 
Also requires  builders log and pictures etc. I seem to recall that it is not 
that stringent in the U.S.  but I found that statement in the ad curious. 
Are you able to buy a project without builders logs etc. and still bring it to 
completion? If so, how do you do that?
Just curious.

Bob R

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Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:37:56 AM
Subject: KR> KR1 on Craigslist

This seems like a great deal:

https://greenbay.craigslist.org/avo/d/luxemburg-kit-plane-high-performance-kr/6967555012.html
 


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Re: KR> top end overhaul

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

  HI All;
I should have been more clear in my original email. My friend and I did the top 
overhaul so I knew what all went into it. I had run it a few times just to get 
it running right. I did install a brand new carb the other day and yesterday, I 
tied it to the back of my truck and ran it hard for about an hour. WOT gave me 
2900 static and temps were greata ( cowl off)  I have sensors on only the back 
two cylinders so one was in at 200 and the other 175-180. This engine has 
always run about that speed so pretty confident in it now and hope to get 
flying in the nest several days. (weather right now) 
Thanks to everyone for the input 

Bob R

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Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 3:44:40 PM
Subject: Re: KR> top end overhaul

Bob,
Steve Bennett broke in my 2180 VW before he shipped it to me.  He told me he 
ran it for one and a half hours at wide open throttle.  He was careful not to 
let the engine overheat 
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KR> top end overhaul

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

The top end was recently overhauled on my Great Plains 2180 and I have it 
running pretty well. I have run it on the ground a bit to get it tuned 
properly. I want to do a few ground runs and also need to go over a few other 
things on the airplane before getting airborne but I am wondering about methods 
to do the seating of the rings without actually going flying at this point. I 
don't want to glaze the cylinders while I am running it in. All thoughts are 
welcome and thanks in advance guys for all the great info shared here. 
Bob R 


Bob Russell 
Winnipeg Creative Wood Design 
3027 Roblin Blvd. 
Wpg. Mb. 
R3R 0B8 
204-981-0762 

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KR> Krs on Vancouver Island ?

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I am visiting in Victoria for two weeks and wondering if there are any Krs on 
the island. I would love to connect if there is anyone. 
Also any other homebuilders as well. 


Bob R 

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Re: KR> canopy and turtledeck

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks Chris ...

Bob Russell
Winnipeg Creative Wood Design
3027 Roblin Blvd.
Wpg. Mb.
R3R 0B8
204-981-0762

- Original Message -
From: Chris Gardiner via KRnet 
To: KRnet 
Cc: Chris Gardiner 
Sent: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:26:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: KR> canopy and turtledeck

Bob,
I have flaps and the rear of my seat is just 1/2” or so off the plywood floor , 
at the lowest point.
The RR canvas sling seat , I use , is hung on an aluminum tube on Adel clamps 
at the rear spar. The seat cushion is 2” astronaut memory foam that is quite 
comfortable.

I’ll try to photograph it tomorrow and sent a few pics.
My canopy is totally stock height.
Regards
Chris Gardiner


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> On Mar 30, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Robert Russell via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> +++
> 
> Bob,
> 
> I wouldn't worry about the taller canopy affecting airflow over the 
> tail.  My KR is longer but I have a rather tall canopy and standard tail 
> surfaces, no problem.
> 
> Hi Larry;
> Thanks for the info;
> 
> I was out at my hangar today and took a really good look at the seat height 
> and discovered that the back of the seat was about 1.5 inches above the top 
> of the rear spar. I think it had been reworked by someone at some point 
> because it looks like it was originally located close to the bottom of the 
> rear spar. I believe it was raised to accommodate the torque tube for the 
> flaps which appear to have been added after the initial build.
> 
> I removed the seat and did a modification to the fastening system for it and 
> and to the seat itself.  It looks like I can lower it about 2 inches, maybe  
> a bit more. so that will help.
> 
> I have been looking on the KrNet at some of the builds trying to find others 
> who have flaps to see how high their seat is off the bottom at the rear spar 
> but am having trouble finding pictures of that assembly. I know there are 
> quite a few guys who have flaps and I thought there may be a better way to 
> set up the linkage that would allow me to lower the seat even more. That 
> would save having to raise the turtle deck.
> 
> Anyway, if you or anyone else can direct me to pictures of that assembly that 
> others are using that would be helpful. Also, those with flaps, how high is 
> the rear of your seat off the bottom of the rear spar?
> 
> All in all it was great to spend some time working on the airplane even 
> though it was only +1 C today. I am kind of regretting that I am going to be 
> away for two weeks now that I have the building bug .
> 
> As always, thanks in advance  to all.
> Bob R
> Winnipeg
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Re: KR> canopy and turtledeck

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

> +++

Bob,

I wouldn't worry about the taller canopy affecting airflow over the 
tail.  My KR is longer but I have a rather tall canopy and standard tail 
surfaces, no problem.

Hi Larry;
Thanks for the info;

I was out at my hangar today and took a really good look at the seat height and 
discovered that the back of the seat was about 1.5 inches above the top of the 
rear spar. I think it had been reworked by someone at some point because it 
looks like it was originally located close to the bottom of the rear spar. I 
believe it was raised to accommodate the torque tube for the flaps which appear 
to have been added after the initial build.

I removed the seat and did a modification to the fastening system for it and 
and to the seat itself.  It looks like I can lower it about 2 inches, maybe  a 
bit more. so that will help.

I have been looking on the KrNet at some of the builds trying to find others 
who have flaps to see how high their seat is off the bottom at the rear spar 
but am having trouble finding pictures of that assembly. I know there are quite 
a few guys who have flaps and I thought there may be a better way to set up the 
linkage that would allow me to lower the seat even more. That would save having 
to raise the turtle deck.

Anyway, if you or anyone else can direct me to pictures of that assembly that 
others are using that would be helpful. Also, those with flaps, how high is the 
rear of your seat off the bottom of the rear spar?

All in all it was great to spend some time working on the airplane even though 
it was only +1 C today. I am kind of regretting that I am going to be away for 
two weeks now that I have the building bug .

As always, thanks in advance  to all.
Bob R
Winnipeg

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KR> canopy and turtledeck

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi All; 
I know there has been some discussion on this previously and I did look in the 
archives. I found some info but just want to clarify a couple of things. I was 
worried about the canopy height on one of my projects and decided to measure 
the height on both projects I have. 

On Kr ... C -GSJS which is plans built and very true to the original concept, I 
have 17.5 inches from the seat back ( longeron height) to the bottom of the 
turtledeck. On Kr # 2 that same measurement is only 14 inches so no wonder my 
head hits the canopy. 
I was planning on making the turtledeck removable on this one anyway so am 
working on the best method to get a straight ,clean cut along the longeron and 
will follow the fastening methods used by a few of the guys who have removable 
decks. 

What I am wondering is, if I raise the turtledeck and canopy, fairng in the 
area between the front deck and canopy frame to streamline and be pleasing to 
the eye, do I have to do anything to the rudder and horizontal stabilizer to 
reflect the added 3-4 inches of height of the turtledeck? That is to say, will 
the added height interfere with the airflow over those surfaces? I also intend 
to make the HS wider and leave the elevator the same as it is now so if I have 
to do anything else, now is the time. 

The weather is getting a bit better up here in Canada and I am determined to 
get some progress made on both of these KRs. 

The other thing I am curious for feedback on is this. C-GSJS as I said is true 
to the original and has no starter. I would feel better if I were to add one to 
it. The magneto is fastened by way of the original X type of bracket and I 
don't think there is a way to put a starter in as it is close to the firewall.. 
6.5 inches firewall to front of engine mount. I have spare mounts that I could 
use but that moves engine forward about 2 inches or a bit more. That would 
allow me to attach a Diehl case and starter. The thing is of course the W+B 
will be way off. I was wondering if removing the battery from the firewall and 
mounting it further back in the fuselage would be the best way to try and get 
the W+B back in place. The other mod is also to swap the header tank ( one 
large tank) for a small header tank and put tanks in the stub wings as they are 
open currently, or into the wings themselves. I will be doing the tank mod 
anyway to prevent the CG moving around as fuel is burned. 

I have been doing a lot of epoxy work on tables that I build and am pretty 
comfortable with the West system now so want to get on these. 

As always, the expertise and advice of those on this KrNet is always 
appreciated and sought after. 



Bob Russell 
Winnipeg Creative Wood Design 
3027 Roblin Blvd. 
Wpg. Mb. 
R3R 0B8 
204-981-0762 

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Re: KR> Epoxy

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I see AS is selling ecopoxy as well .
Has anyone used it?
Bob R
Winnipeg 
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From: Rllanning via KRnet 
To: KRnet 
Cc: Rllanning 
Sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 21:53:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy

I agree with Brian EZ is by far the best.

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 9:01 PM, brian.kraut--- via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> You really should give EZPoxy a try.  I have tried the all and find it by far 
> the best.  Dug up my old comparison here: 
> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/msg01666.html
> 
> 
> Brian Kraut
> 904-536-1780
> br...@eamanuacturing.com
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: KR> Epoxy
> From: mark jones via KRnet 
> Date: Mon, September 17, 2018 10:36 am
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Cc: mark jones 
> 
> What are the pros and cons of Aeropoxy vs West Systems epoxy. Are they equal 
> for wetting out wing skins?
> 
> Mark Jones
> Oldsmar, Fl
> www.flykr2s.com
> flyk...@gmail.com
> 
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KR> Revmaster for sale

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi All; 
I am not going to be using this engine and so am offering it up for sale... I 
have too many projects on the go and the one this engine was for is being sold. 
For Sale 
This is a totally rebuilt zero time Revmaster 2100RD with a yellow tagged mag 
just done at Eagle Magneto. It is dual ignition , new cylinders, pistons etc 
with a Revflow carb and straight exhaust.I am asking $4500.00 for it and it is 
ready to go. This engine has full history at Revmaster and Joe told me it is 
not restricted to a wooden prop.Please email me at pi...@mts.net if you would 
like to discuss further. 

Thanks 
Bob R 
Winnipeg 
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KR> Top end overhaul vw

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi All
I have dismantled the top end of my Great Plains 2180 which is still on the 
airplane and it occurred to me that replacing the pushrod etc. may present some 
challenges.
Has anyone done this or should I actually remove the block from the airplane? 
Basically just want to hone the cylinders,install new rings and lap the valves.
Thanks
Bob R 
Winnipeg

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KR> Gear legs

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I am wondering if anyone has a template or dimensions that I should cut the 
Grumman gear legs down to for my Kr2.
The original weight of C-GSJS was just over 400 lbs. I don't want to make these 
new legs ( removed the original retracts) too stiff but sure don't want them to 
fail.
I will also be adding tubing for the brake lines as per the archives emails.
I will have to check the measurements but I think 1 inch thick and quite wide.
Thanks
Bob R
Winnipeg 

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KR> Wings

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I picked up AN6-7A bolts and with the correct grip length the wings were pretty 
tight even before tightening.
Also I made progress on the Diehl skins and was able to remove the spars and 
ribs today. 
I will have to remove the rest of the vinylester now and then the skins will be 
good to go.
Bob R
Winnipeg

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KR> Wings

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks Mark,Sid and others for the replies.I feel much more informed and 
confident regarding this now.
I guess the only other concern I have is as I mentioned about grip length on 
the AN6-5A and threads being inside the Wags. Any need for concern there or 
should I just stay with those.
I will look up torque specs on the AN6-5As and tighten them up.
Thanks
Bob R 
Winnipeg

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KR> update re wings

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

An update... after processing all the info I read on the archives ,it occurred 
to me that I might be going at the wiggly wings all wrong. I had occasion to be 
at the hangar for a few minutes today and decided to try the AN6-5A bolts in 
some of the other WAFs that I have .In some, they were a bit loose and in a 
couple of other sets they were a snug fit. I have a feeling that the WAFs on 
that project were made to a slightly different size and I am trying to nail 
that down. I think they might be 10 mm or thereabouts 
Also, I think that the AN5-6A may not be correct anyway because of the grip if 
I am reading things correctly the shear load should not be anywhere on the 
threads and the WAFs plus washers are definitely on the threads on those bolts. 
Now the search beg ins to find the correct bolts and hopefully that will 
resolve my issue . Worst case scenario is either ream the holes to a known and 
functional size or replace the WAFs and I have a few sets that are not drilled 
at all. Every day brings a new adventure . 
Bob R 
Winnipeg 
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KR> wing tip movement

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I have spent some time in the archives and there has been discussion about 
this. When I trial fit the wings on the project I posted pics of the other day 
in the Facebook site, I did not tighten the nuts onto the bolts (just on loose 
) but yesterday I checked for movement at the wing tips and there is indeed 
movement. My question for all is ... before you tightened the nuts ... was 
there any movement. 
I did have the wings on my other project and as I recall even with the bolts 
just through the hole there was no slop or movement. 
It seems to me there should be none ideally and that perhaps the holes are not 
as close tolerance as they should be.Not an insurmountable problem I understand 
and no hurry on this project either. 
As always,I look forward to hearing all thoughts. 
Bob R 
Winnipeg 
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KR> Diehl wing skins

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I have some Diehl skins that someone started but I need to remove the spars and 
ribs so I can start over. They were not done correctly and I wondering what the 
best way to get the vinylester to release and to clean it all out.
All thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks
Bob R
Winnipeg

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Re: KR> landing gear

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

OOOps... I also meant to ask what bolts to fasten and also Mark Langford, you 
mentioned on your site about blind nuts so the legs can be taken off for 
sanding the leading edge. What bolts etc. do you recommend?
Thanks
Bob R
Winnipeg

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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 8:27:08 PM
Subject: KR> landing gear

I am changing the gear on GSJS to fixed and I have my castings to fasten to the 
spar. I am just not sure of the proper placement and the archives appear to be 
having a problem. Can someone tell me how far inboard from the stub wing tip 
they should be? 

Thanks 
Bob 
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KR> landing gear

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I am changing the gear on GSJS to fixed and I have my castings to fasten to the 
spar. I am just not sure of the proper placement and the archives appear to be 
having a problem. Can someone tell me how far inboard from the stub wing tip 
they should be? 

Thanks 
Bob 
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Re: KR> Zinc phosphate

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Well ... I have a can of the zinc phosphate on my shelf ... redoing my wing 
attach fittings on GSJS ... removed and cleaned just need to prime before 
reinstalling.
Bob
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From: Flesner via KRnet 
To: Robert Russell via KRnet 
Cc: Flesner 
Sent: Mon, 28 May 2018 20:14:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: KR> Zinc phosphate

On 5/28/2018 6:30 PM, Robert Russell via KRnet wrote:
> I am wondering if anyone has used zinc phosphate instead of zinc chromate for 
> primer on parts .
> Any thoughts are welcome.
> Thanks
> Bob R
++

Bob,

Why not regular old paint primer?

Larry Flesner

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KR> Zinc phosphate

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I am wondering if anyone has used zinc phosphate instead of zinc chromate for 
primer on parts .
Any thoughts are welcome.
Thanks 
Bob R
Winnipeg

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KR> parts available soon

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi All; 
I will listing a whole group of parts and a project for sale soon. I had been 
gathering bits and pieces as well a few project Kr2 airplanes but have just 
managed to find a Kr2S which don't come up very often. Because there are only 
so many hours in the day and also we have a limited shelf life ourselves,I am 
cutting back on the number of things I have to try and finish. I will be 
concentrating on the 2s so will sell the other parts and the project I picked 
up in Ohio. I have pictures of that project which is well on it's way and will 
take some pics of the parts but just a heads up, I have turtle decks, canopy 
frames , engine cowls, front decks ,gas tanks, complete tail groups, a pair of 
the AS5045 wings, a set of Diehl original wing skins and some other stuff. I 
won't be looking for big money but would like a fair price. I am also motivated 
to move this stuff out of my hangar and somewhere it will get used instead of 
gathering dust. 
I hope to be cleaning up my hangar and getting this together in the next few 
weeks but was just diagnosed with a hernia which I an seeing the surgeon about 
next Saturday so until that is done I can't do any heavy lifting. 
I am in Winnipeg , Manitoba ,Canada and so not sure what the deal is getting 
parts to the U.S. but I think it not too convoluted especially if someone 
drives here to get them. I am not sure if I can transport them into the U.S. or 
not but stuff can also be shipped. 
I am very excited about the 2S and it is still in a stage where I can determine 
how I want to certain things. 
Contact me offline at pi...@mts.net 
Thanks 
Bob R 
Winnipeg 
Preceptor Ultra Pup 
Kr2 C-GSJS 
Kr2s project 


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Re: KR> Tippin’s KR2S

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

No pictures showed up .

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From: "Adam via KRnet" 
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Cc: "Adam" 
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 6:38:02 AM
Subject: KR> Tippin’s KR2S

I have been working on my build and these are my latest pictures of my push rod 
conversion. 
This setup will cover my ailerons and elevator. 
Rudder will stay cable style. 






Adam Tippin
A&P KR2S builder
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Re: KR> KR Zeemaps

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I added mine ... Winnipeg 
Bob Russell 
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Sent: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 18:16:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: KR> KR Zeemaps

Great!  I didn’t know this was out there.  I’ll add a few pins. 

Disregard google map - I’ll kill it.

Cheers,
Owen 


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KR> Redrill prop bolt holes ?

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Has anyone filled or plugged bolt holes and drilled new ones to fit a different 
hub pattern ?
Bob R
Winnipeg 

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Re: KR> Propellers

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks Mark ...your input ad always is valued and appreciated. 
Bob R
Winnipeg 
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Sent: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 20:25:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: KR> Propellers

Bob Russell wrote:

 > Is the prop exchange idea still happening?

The Prop Bank was fairly short lived, partly due to lack of interest, 
and partly because one of the first to use it took several months to pay 
for a prop that was sent to him, even after many requests to either 
return it or pay for it.   I thought it was a great idea, but it turned 
out to be an annoyance instead.

Just to see if there's any interest, how about anybody with a prop to 
sell post details to KRnet and maybe we can swap some props around? 
Send a $250 deposit or something, and try it to see if it'll work.  If 
nothing else, it'll give you some guidance on what size might work best 
for your plane.

I will say that Ed Sterba will make you a VW prop to fit whatever you 
want for $400 (which includes shipping), for anything under a 56" 
diameter prop (or somewhere around that diameter), and maybe $450 for a 
longer one.  They are great props, and he has a pretty good feel for 
what works on which airplane/engine combination, and will re-pitch  it a 
bit for free if needed.

You've probably seen this already, but check out 
http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html for some idea of which props work on 
which airplanes and engines.  Yes, this needs updating, but several 
requests for updated information have yielded no updates.

Mark Langford
m...@n56ml.com
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Re: KR> Aircraft inspection Canada

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi ...
I am the guy Don mentioned and I do live in Winnipeg .It is a bit of a drive 
and I might be able to go and look but since I am retired I couldn't really 
commit due to the expense of such a trip. 
The only way I could go would be if expenses were covered and I feel a bit 
weird about saying that but unfortunately that is the reality.
I don't know anyone in Moose jaw but will see if I could track someone down in 
that area.
Thanks
Bob R
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Sent: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:48:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: KR> Aircraft inspection Canada

Phillip. I'm about 160 miles south of the border in the US. There is a KR
owner near Winnipeg Canada his name is Rob and a member of KRNET email is
pi...@mymts.com good luck and let me know what I can do. Don January
januaryd...@gmail.com  701-259-2111

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Phillip Matheson via KRnet <
krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:

> I  looking at an aircraft in Moose Jaw , Canada it a tin can , not kr, Do
> we have any members or contacts that could help me out.
> Phil. Down under
>
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KR> Propellers

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Is the prop exchange idea still happening? My Revmaster 2100 is pretty much 
finished and although I have props to die Great Plains prop hubs I don't have 
anything ( other than a 64x28 ) to fit a Revmaster hub.
I have some other props I could trade if someone needs a Great Plains style.
I have to go to my hangar to get the sizes and it's hovering around minus 35 - 
40 here .
Thanks 
Bob R

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Re: KR> Christmas flight

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

No flying here in Winnipeg Robert .. it was -28 C    Yes folks  minus 28 
with a wind so effectively around - 40 ish   Merry Christmas  to all  
Bob R
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Sent: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 17:55:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: KR> Christmas flight

I went out the airport this morning, it was a crisp 28 degrees. 
I made three  local landings, after about 45 minutes total flight I 
couldn't feel my toes so I headed back to my heated hanger. You eather get 
what you want, or you get what you deserve.Robert Pesak

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Re: KR> Get it done!

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Welcome  ... the KR2S are great airplanes... you are fortunate to find the S 
version 
Bob R 
Winnipeg
Canada
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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:08:23 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Get it done!

Hi my name is Brian. I am considering taking over a KR2S project.

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Re: KR> Get it done!

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I have accumulated a lot of parts and have two projects on the go... my 
official retirement was yesterday and I intend to spend some time on my 
projects ( weather permitting) but once spring arrives I will be all out on 
them. I will also have parts to help others gain ground in their builds. Once I 
take stock of what I need I will post a list of available parts.
Keep working guys , and I agree with Mark... mine won't be pretty but I need to 
have them flying.
Bob R
Winnipeg

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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 8:21:17 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Get it done!

I agree with Mark also. I took pieces of my KR-2  and helped other builders
get closer to

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Re: KR> Retracts, NOW, STARTER RELAY INFO

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

- Original Message -
From: "Leif G Alstadsæter via KRnet" 
To: "Ronald Wright" , "KRnet" 
Cc: "Leif G Alstadsæter" 
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 3:46:20 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Retracts, NOW, STARTER RELAY INFO

Hi Bill
No the drawing do not came through
Leif

Sendt fra min iPad

6. okt. 2017 kl. 21:59 skrev Ronald Wright via KRnet 
mailto:krnet@list.krnet.org>>:

Guys/Gals, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE WHEN YOU CHANGE THE TOPIC, PLEASE..  Makes 
it impossible to find things in the Archives when searching for information.
Ron

Vero Beach, FL

Yes please change the subject header as Ron said, and also delete most of the 
original method. The moderator has been very patient about this but it is a bit 
frustrating when searching out info.
Bob R




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Re: KR> Rebuilding my canopy

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

That is an accomplishment with just tow hour tailwheel time. How many hours did 
you have at the time of the first flight?
Bob R 
Winnipeg Mb.
Canada





  I had
just over two and a half hours tail wheel when I got in it the first time
and it didn't take me long to become somewhat comfortable during takeoff
and landing.  Since then I've flown it from around local quite a bit and
made trips from Arkansas to Florida before moving down here.




-- 
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Re: KR> Parts to save?

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

 Hi Noel;
I live in Winnipeg so am not that far from Regina. I have a few KR projects and 
have had a look at your pics. I was one of the guys who said to check it again 
and I will say that based on the pics and as Mark said there are a few concerns 
that are more evident in these pics.
I guess the main point is that if you want an S then yes start over. Some have 
cut and stretched a regular Kr but that seems a bit too much to me.
I have quite a few Kr parts on hand so we should talk. Many can be adapted to 
work on an S model. I have bought some yellow cedar with the idea of eventually 
building an S too.
I was just at my first Kr Gathering and was so fortunate to get a flight in a 
Kr2S with Robert Pesak. It is an amazing airplane. I did not get up in a 
regular Kr so I can't make a real comparison as to handling but I know there 
were and are lots of guys with a regular Kr who are quite happy. That said ,if 
I was starting from scratch.. it would be a 2S with several modifications as 
seen at the gathering and on the KrNet.
Feel free to give me a call 204-885-2443 .

Bob R 
Winnipeg 
Preceptor Ultra Pup
2 Kr s


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From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: "Mark Langford" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 6:23:46 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Parts to save?

On 10/3/2017 10:51 PM, Noel McAvena via KRnet wrote:

 > I guess the consensus is first ask the question is it really that bad?

Is that a 2x4 that I see as a seat back?  If so, that's got to go.  You 



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Re: KR> Parts to save?

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

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Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:58:12 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Parts to save?

Noel,

It’d be a shame if that boat really isn’t up to snuff. I might have 
someone else take a look at it before you write it off, because that’s a big 
step backwards. Your KR is right about where mine was when I purchased it, and 
I think a lot of builders run out of steam at about that spot.


I would have to agree, have someone else take a look. From the pictures I can't 
see anything that is scary. There is a lot of knowledge here that will help you 
if there are repairs that need to take place. I also am not looking at building 
the perfect airplane but wanting a safe,finished one that I can fly and modify 
as needed.
Try to find a builder in your area to show the things you see as issues.
Welcome to the show that never ends .!!! It's a great group of people here.
Bob R 
Winnipeg 
Canada

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Re: KR> made it home

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I arrived home in Winnipeg about 2 pm today. Sorry I was not able to stay for 
the dinner but so appreciative of the effort and result of the organizers of 
this year's gathering. Thanks again to Robert for my first ride in a Kr. I am 
inspired to get to work on mine and to attend next year's gathering. I will 
plan to stay for the whole event. So many nice Krs and great folks , finally to 
put faces to names I have seen so often.
Thanks for  great Kr experience
Bob Russell 
Winnipeg Canada

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Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 1:27:29 PM
Subject: KR> made it home

 I made it home at around 11:45 am GREAT TIME ROB .
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KR> Gathering

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I don't think I will be trailering my Kr down as I want to bring my pop up 
trailer to stay in. 
I imagine there will be a place to set it up ? 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> KR2 World wide register

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I think this is out of date because C-GSJS is my KR2 and it is registered here 
in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada not British Columbia any longer.
That looks like a lot more KRs in Canada than there are on the Canadian Civil 
Aircraft Registry.
Bob R
Winnipeg 

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From: "Hendrik van Rooyen via KRnet" 
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Cc: "Hendrik van Rooyen" 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 11:56:52 AM
Subject: KR> KR2 World wide register

Hi all,

Just found this - a list of all registered KR2s around the world:

http://www.airport-data.com/search/search2.html?field=model&search=Search&code=Rand%20KR-2

Henni,
South Africa

-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry Flesner 
via KRnet
Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 3:15 PM
To: KRnet 
Cc: Larry Flesner 
Subject: KR> KR Gathering

At 07:51 AM 9/11/2017, you wrote:
>Too everyone, I hope you all had fun at the gathering, I come down with 
>a cold and was not able to come.next time .
>+


Joel,

Get well soon and you can still make it.  See 
http://www.krgathering.net

Larry Flesner

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Re: KR> Crash

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

So sorry to hear this... glad you are going to be okay though. Take your time 
and heal well.
Bob R
Winnipeg
Canada

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KR> vw gaskets

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi All 
I have received my disassembled Revmaster R2100D and am wondering what is the 
proper gasket set to but to re assemble it. 
Is it something I can buy locally at the vw dealer or auto parts store or do I 
need to order something different. 
Thanks 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> engine start

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks Mark
No rebuilds , they are engines I picked up with my Ohio projects .
I don't know the history on them but will give them a good look over before 
doing anything with them.
l appreciate your details about oil etc.
I am certainly looking forward to the gathering. 
Bob R
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From: Mark Langford via KRnet 
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Sent: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 14:05:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: KR> engine start

Bob Russell wrote:

> I am wanting to start some vw conversions that I have and was
wondering if anyone has been able to start them without a prop on.
> I could put one on but since we are having quite a bit of rain, I
> was
thinking of doing it in my hangar.
> It seems to me that it should run as there is a flywheel( and I will
put a fan in front to cool).

I've gotten in the habit of setting the timing without the prop on my 
VW. There's a lot less drama, and the timing is far easier to nail down 
perfectly when there's not a 100 mph wind blowing everything around. 
This probably doesn't work if you have a vacuum advance though, which 
you shouldn't.  And obviously, don't run it for more than a couple of 
minutes.  It won't heat up too much in two minutes.

I have a lightened flywheel on the back also, so running it for a few 
minutes without a prop doesn't concern me.  The risk is that if you 
start it, you'd better make sure it's not going to hit 6000 rpm 
instantly...definitely start with throttle barely cracked, because 
there's no load on it at all.

Another thing I've learned with mine is that priming it with oil is not 
easy, if it's a fresh rebuild.  I've learned to lube the oil pump gears 
with thicker grease that improves the seal between gears and housing, 
put a little extra oil in it, and leave it sitting with the tail up in 
the air overnight to make sure the oil is available to the pump.  Then I 
backfill with more oil through the oil pressure sensor hole (near the 
distributor) to fill that oil passage up, and hopefully put more oil 
into the pump.  Then I fill that NPT hole with a mechanical oil temp 
gauge and spin the engine over with the starter with all plugs removed 
and spark plugs removed but still connected to plug wires, and grounded 
(laid across the cylinders as a ground), so I can check spark at the 
same time).

Contrast this with the Corvair, where you simply fill the engine with 
oil, use the distributor drive gear to spin the pump up for a few 
seconds until you hear oil splashing all around the engine, reinstall 
the distributor, and fire it up!

Mark Langford
m...@n56ml.com
http://www.n56ml.com

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KR> engine start

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I am wanting to start some vw conversions that I have and was wondering if 
anyone has been able to start them without a prop on. 
I could put one on but since we are having quite a bit of rain, I was thinking 
of doing it in my hangar. 
It seems to me that it should run as there is a flywheel( and I will put a fan 
in front to cool). 
Interested in your comments. 
Thanks 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> N811RJ joins the ranks of flying KR2S'

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

- Original Message -
From: "dennis lacy via KRnet" 
To: "KRnet" 
Cc: "dennis lacy" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:46:33 PM
Subject: Re: KR> N811RJ joins the ranks of flying KR2S'

 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Huge congratulations! What a milestone! And I agree with Jeff; 
teaser post! Lol!


Congratulations on a milestone. I look forward to it myself one day.
Bob R

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Re: KR> epoxy

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Air bubbles in the pumps can sometimes bias the mix ratio unless you check 
every batch.
Chris Gardiner

Thanks Chris...I will do that.
Bob R

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KR> landing gear question

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I picked up the landing gear yesterday from the guy I bought C-GSJS from. It is 
( I think) from a Grumman or something similar. The fireglass legs are quite 
wide and heavy so will need to be cut down and streamlined and the axles are 
1.5 in. I am wondering if there are wheels I can use fort he KR with that axle 
size or if I need to come up with a different plan.I did search the archives 
and came across a thread where someone made their gear legs from the bar used 
in the original retracts. 
Everyday is a new research area. Thanks for all the feedback guys. 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> Turtle deck extending.

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

-
Because the angle from the fuselage is different. 
See how we did it. http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2/styled-10/index.html
Good luck 
Stef



That is an amazing feat you have done. Great work guys, I am sure it will give 
others the information to do it as well.
Bob R

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Re: KR> progress finally

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

What a nice clean engine and install, happy for you that they finally arrived.
Bob R

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Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 7:55:47 PM
Subject: KR> progress finally




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KR> epoxy

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I picked up my West System pumps and some epoxy today. 
I will try some gluing some small pieces to get the feeling and a bit of 
experience with it before moving on to anything really critical. Have never 
really worked with it before. 
Also started pulling some of the new cables into place so I hope to finish 
those up this weekend. 

Bob R 
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Re: KR> aileron pushrods

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I just made two push rods for my auto pilot and will be making my aileron' push 
rods shortly.   
Paul Visk Belleville Il.
618-406-4705

Wow... thanks for all that info Paul and including all the part numbers. I 
thought I couldn't be the only one on the net at this stage.
Bob R


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Re: KR> aileron pushrods

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

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bearings and made them to fit.  You can trust my memory or not.  I don't. :-)

Larry Flesner


I have managed to clean mine up pretty nicely , now it's just getting the rod 
end bearings loosened up . One spins really easily, the other 3 are a bit tight 
but the more I keep working them the better they seem to get. I wonder if a bit 
of WD40 would be okay on them.
Thanks Larry for the reply
Bob R

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KR> aileron pushrods

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Does anybody have part numbers and/or vendors for the aileron pushrods or 
parts? 
I have pair but they need some work so I thought to just replace them. Started 
making my control cables and hope to do the rest on the weekend. 
Thanks 
Bob R 

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KR> Peter Johnson

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I am trying to reach Peter Johnson of Kenora Ontario. Has anybody heard 
anything from him? Last email here was in 2015. 

Thanks 
Bob R 
Winnpeg 
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Re: KR> swage tool

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

God thought Larry... I will look into how to do that but in the meantime I 
swaged one with the other tool that I got from AS which incidentally covers the 
whole sleeve and compresses the whole thing. That is actually probably better 
than two individual crimps on one sleeve. These crimps look exactly like the 
original sleeves on the old cables and are within the gauge specs.
I am a slow learner until I have all the facts.
Bob R 

To eliminate any doubts about your cables do a load test after you 
swage them.  Just don't exceed the load capability of the cable.

Larry Flesner


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Re: KR> swage tool

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Interestingly, I just watched an EAA video where the guy was making a 3/32 
cable. He used two sleeves each with one crimp and spread out from each other 
by about 1/2 inch.
It seems there are many ways to accomplish the same end goal of strength. I 
kind of like the two sleeve idea s we all know redundancy in systems is a good 
thing along with regular inspections.
Bob R

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Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 9:04:10 AM
Subject: Re: KR> swage tool

Bob,  Do you have a tech advisor you can talk to from your EAA chapter. He 
should be able to giving some hands on advice.


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KR> swage tool

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I received my swaging tool and gauge from AS yesterday and checked the crimps I 
had made with my Princess Auto tool. they are correct and so now the only thing 
I am trying to come to terms with is that the info I read says 2 crimps per 
sleeve but there is really only room for 1 per sleeve unless the 2 crimps 
overlap the ends of the sleeve which leaves a bump/ring around the middle of 
the sleeve. Someone did say that 1 crimp is sufficient and I assume that would 
just be in the middle of the sleeve. 
Any other thoughts on this? 
Thanks 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> building stub wings

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks SidThat is exactly what I was thinking would be best.
Good thoughts on the access panels, I started to make some for the elevator and 
rudder as I am currently replacing cables as well.
My registration came in the mail yesterday so once it is all done another 
KR will fly.
Happy dance 
Bob R


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Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 11:56:26 AM
Subject: Re: KR> building stub wings

Bob,
Put the already built outer wings on the airplane.  Whatever it takes: build 

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KR> building stub wings

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I have my stub wings stripped down to the spars and am now looking at getting 
them rebuilt. Waiting for supplies to do new cables but in the meantime I am 
wondering if trial fitting the wings onto the airplane (this is a previously 
flying one) as I make the ribs to go in that area would be a good way to get 
everything aligned back to original. I was thinking that if I do that and they 
form a good continuous wing shape all the way to the fuselage, then angle of 
incidence etc. would all be just as the original setup which from the logs 
indicates it was a gentle and solid flyer. I am just wondering what everyone's 
thoughts are on this and if you see any pitfalls to that instead of trying to 
build the stub wings according to plans etc. as it seems each airplane is a bit 
different or unique. 
Thanks to all for putting up with all my crazy ideas and giving me such 
valuable advice. 
Bob R 


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KR> swaging tool

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I should have done my test before posting the previous email about the Princess 
Auto tool. 
The jaws only allow for two crimps as they are too wide for three on a sleeve 
and don't seem as tight as they should be. I will order the "economy swaging 
tool" from AS because that should work. better. 
Every day is a learning experience for me. 
Bob R 

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KR> go no go gauge

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I just ordered the go no go gauge from Aircraft Spruce for checking my 
nicopress sleeves but I have a few questions. The tool I bought is from 
Princess Auto and is not an actual nicopress brand. I have been reading a lot 
about swaging and wondering if others have used sleeves/tools/ gauges that are 
not all from the same company. 
If you use the gauge and the fitting is in the correct slot does it really 
matter if you use a matching tool? 
I know that is the common thought but is that just because of liability issues 
for the companies because of use on certified aircraft ? 
I want my cables to be safe but also don't want to spend a small fortune on a 
tool I will only use a few times. 
The gauge should arrive by the end of the week or on Monday so I will try a 
test fit first but would appreciate thoughts on this issue. 
Thanks 
Bob R 

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Re: KR> Cables and Nico press sleeves.

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Yes, thank you Colin for the info.
Bob R



Thanks Colin! Bill Jacobs Daytona Beach, Fl.

  From: colin hales via KRnet 
 To: "krnet@list.krnet.org"  
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 Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 3:18 PM
 Subject: KR> Cables and Nico press sleeves.
   
While everyone is barking on about what fluid to use in a compass, there was 
not sufficient good advice given to Bob R. on which Nico Press sleeves to use, 
far more critical and important.

Regards,


Colin H.

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Re: KR> nico press sleeves

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks Jeff, I appreciaite the input.
Bob R

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Subject: Re: KR> nico press sleeves


 .  FWIW, I found the copper sleeves ordered from Aircraft Spruce to be less 
expensive than buying the cheapo aluminum sleeves from the hardware store.

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KR> nico press sleeves

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

What nico press sleeves are people using for control cables ? 
I see there aluminum, copper, zinc plated and stainless steel. 
It seems Aircraft Spruce sells just the copper or zinc plated. 
What are people's opinions on these various types? 
Thanks 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> RAF 48 templates

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Oh Oh ... a seniors moment for me. Sorry abut that. I must have accidentaly 
deleted that email .
Bob R

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Subject: Re: KR> RAF 48 templates

I told you Bob I'd be glad to assist in getting you some templates of my
rib's


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KR> RAF 48 templates

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I was looking in the archives for a link to an electronic version of the full 
size RAF 48 templates to take to a printer. I can find the AS5046 on Mark's 
page but not the RAF 48 . Does anybody know where I can find those? 
Thanks 
Bob R 
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KR> plywood feedback

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I have been looking a t plywood to replace the ribs in the stub wings and have 
come across some Baltic Birch 5 ply (90 degree) 3 mm and although it is not 
specified as Aircraft Grade I am thinking it should be fine fort he ribs since 
there is foam as well and then glass. What are your thoughts anyone? 
Thanks 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> Control Cable

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks Sid
Bob R

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Subject: Re: KR> Control Cable

7x19 strand is much more flexible and will last much longer going around 
pulleys.  

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KR> control cable

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

In the archives it mentions 3/32 cable for the Kr. I am wondering if 3/32 7x7 
galvanized is okay as that is what seems to be readily available here. I can 
find 3?32 7x19 but have to order it in. What are the current thoughts on the 
cable to use? 
Thanks 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> Rand Robinson's early epoxy (was Wing Attach Fittings)

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

>From one of the Newsletters:

RR epoxy is Shell 
Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com

Thanks Mark


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KR> Gillespie mods

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

This is also mentioned in the documents I have. Can't find reference in the 
archives. Is this in the newsletters somewhere? 
I think one is firewall reinforcement but unclear about any others. 
Thanks 
Bob 
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Re: KR> wing attach fittings

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Following up late last night ,I poured through the documentation I have for 
GSJS. I found a section where he states in regards to the center spars and 
WAFs, "all bolt holes were filled with R.R.epoxy prior to bolts being 
inserted". So this was in 1975/76 . I have been looking in the archives to try 
and determine the make up of that epoxy at that time but can't find anything 
definitive. Does anybody have that info ?
Thanks
Bob R

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Subject: KR> wing attach fittings


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Re: KR> wing attach fittings

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks Oscar It's more about trying to save the spars. I have more WAFs but 
the spars are good and this was a flying Kr so everything is setup properly. I 
just thought I would try to put the new WAFs on but will just clean the 
originals up really well I guess. If they don't come out well, I can always 
replace spars ( have some others that are new ) and WAFs all together.
Bob R

If you were only trying to salvage the WAFs and sacrifice the spars and bolts, 
you could try heating the bolts.  

Medford, OR
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KR> wing attach fittings

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I did a bit more work on cleaning up the center spars on one project and was 
going to change or repaint the WAFs but I can't seem to get the bolts to loosen 
up. I suspect they may have been epoxied into the spars. Can't turn them and 
they don't move with any gentle persuasion. Has anyone run into this? I gave up 
on that and proceeded to start cleaning up the WAFs that are on there. They 
have a bit of surface rust in a few spots due to paint coming off and sitting 
over time but are still solid . I will have to repaint them with a small brush 
I guess 
Also, in removing the glass from the tops of the spars, there are a couple of 
spots where small slivers of the top cap came up with the glass. Nothing major 
so I think I can fill them in to level with a bit of extra epoxy before final 
glassing. Any thoughts? 

Bob R 
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KR> landin gear

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Just another crazy question, this time about landing gear. Has anyone tried or 
thought about laminated wooden gear sandwiched or covered with fiberglass? 
It is just a thought that crossed my mind. I don't know if it makes any sense 
or would be strong enough but thought I would throw it out there for 
discussion. 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Yes, I was very pleased to hear that when I contacted Joe as well.


Bob R
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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 4:43:08 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

I just spoke with Joe at Revmaster. He confirmed that the Revmaster engines 
with their extra bearing and case design are fine with composite propellers 
(including IVOprops). Other VW conversions may not be depending on how modified 
the design is from the auto engine. In fact, Joe told me that the Revmaster was 
originally designed to work with a 14 lb aluminum propeller!

All this direct from the Revmaster man himself.

Panic over.


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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

oops.. sorry forgot to trim the original message
Bob R

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Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I have a Revmaster RD2100 on order(used) and after checking with Revmaster, 
they told me that particular one is not restricted to wooden props. I gave them 
the serial # and that was their response.
Bob R

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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:28:37 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

"use wood or wood core props only on VW conversion engines" that do not have
a redrive . . . . .

L D Mueller
Mueller Aviation
Cuba City WI 53807
Hanger 46 KPVB
LDMueller.COM

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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:22 AM
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Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 2100D Conversion progress

To echo what Steve said, the rigidity of the carbon fiber blades on the IVO
prop as well as the Warp Drive props are known to cause harmonic vibrations
that are detrimental to the life of the crankshaft in that the harmonics can
cause crankshafts to crack and eventually fail.  It is strongly recommended
to use wood or wood core props only on VW conversion engines.

Of course with Experimental Aircraft, you are allowed to build contrary to
recommendations.  But please be aware of the potential issues.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

--

Unless something has changed IVO props are not approved for a VW engine.

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash.

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 08:15, Tristan Vincent-Philpot via KRnet
 wrote:
>
> I popped in to see the KR-1 engine swap progress today. The 2100D required
a ~6 inch extension to the cowling (top and bottom), a custom internal
exhaust, new mount, modified intakes, and a new adapter for the IVOProp.
It's getting there. Totally new look with the longer nose and no front
exhaust stubs.
>
> Tristan

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Re: KR> RAF rib templates

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi Don;
I emailed you but it bounced back.I may call you just to chat a bit.
Thanks
Bob

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Subject: Re: KR> RAF rib templates

Bob hello. I have the rib's 

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Re: KR> RAF rib templates

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks,,having the instructions would be  a great help. I am going to look at 
the plans when I get home as apparently they are the same.
Thanks for the reply and let me know if you can send the instructions to me. I 
still have a vhs player so that would be great.
Thanks again
Bob R

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I have the original ribs that I can make u a template of if that will help u.  
Also have the original installation instructoions. At one time I had the VHS 
installation tape. I will look for it
Garry Cowles   Orlando FL



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Re: KR> RAF rib templates

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Oh, okay then I can just use the ones form the plans. I thought they were 
different but thanks for bringing me up to speed.
Bob R

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The rib temples are in with the drawings with the plans. I don't think there 
available on line with out buying the planes from NVaero.  


Paul Visk Belleville Il.
618-406-4705


I have been searching for templates for the ribs used in the RAF 48 Diehl wing 
skins and don't seem to be having any luck. I see the ones for the AS5046 but 
cannot find the others. 

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KR> RAF rib templates

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I have been searching for templates for the ribs used in the RAF 48 Diehl wing 
skins and don't seem to be having any luck. I see the ones for the AS5046 but 
cannot find the others. 
Can anybody point me to those? I also saw a link on Craig's Sea Fury page to a 
pdf for the Diehl wing skin installation but it goes to the Diehl site and is 
not active. Does anyone know of another place to download that or could send it 
to me? 
Thanks 
Bob R 

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KR> Diehl ribs

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I have a set o Diehl wing skins but since I am having to remove the bad spars 
that are in them(just fastened to one side) I need to get new ribs as well. 
What are acceptable practice? Should I be contacting NvAero and try to buy just 
the rib sheet or can I make them out of something else? 
Bob R 
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KR> Sid Wood

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I sent emails to the address about the molds from Sid but they bounced back. 
Sid if you get this could you email me ?
If they are still available I would like to get them.
Thanks 
Bob R
piney@mts. net

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KR> project

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

After cleaning up my hangar yesterday,I spent some time going a bit deeper into 
the darker of the two projects. 
John Shaffer had some comments when he saw it about the plywood used as some of 
it was delaminating. Turns out the web on the spars is too thin and I suspect 
is just some type of mahogany playwood. The builder also seems to have used 
wood screws and also left nails in the plywood that poke through the spruce 
formers. I am pretty much writing this one off and will salvage as much sitka 
as I can. It was largely for parts anyway and came with the Diehl skins, as 
well as all instrumentation and cowling, turtledeck, Also some hardware that 
can be salvaged. 
Once I sort through, I will have a lot of parts available to purchase. If 
anyone needs items please keep in touch with me through my personal email. 
It was still great to spend a total airplane weekend even though it was around 
-20 Celsius. 
Bob R 
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KR> pics added

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks to Mike I have it figured out and added a few more pics. 
These are all of the darker of the two projects, it has the deck cloth over the 
entire fuselage and the shots of the inside show the additional light coloured 
wood which I think was added to accommodate the older style canopy. My question 
is, is this common practice and does it matter what kind of wood it is ? The 
deck cloth is extended above the line where it joins. 
I picked up a small cutoff toll from Princess Auto ( like your Haror Frieght ) 
and was going to cut the turtle deck off today. 
Also, not sure about the "control " cab;e on this one. Does anybody else have 
that type of thing on their KR? 
Thanks again for the help guys 
Bob R 
CJL5 



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Re: KR> OneDrive

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi Mke;

I think I have it now

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AlIpgIDxR_sxg36UQVzVtOGFI5pu

Thanks for the schooling... that is why I am here... I learn something every 
day.  Thanks Mike

I will be adding some pics and always appreciate thoughts and opinions.

For the record, I like the email format... simple and efficient.

Bob R 
CJL5 

So, Bob R. . . . go to your album of pictures, find the option that says
"Get a Link".  That's the link you want to share.  It couldn't be
simpler.  

Mike S.
KSEE



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KR> turtledeck question

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

In the pictures I posted , there a few of the inside of the fuselage on the one 
project. I assume the additional wood at the top above the sitka longerons is 
there to raise the turtle deck to accommodate the old style canopy. 
What I am wondering is if that wood is providing any structural strength or 
just to raise the turtle deck. I don't even know what kind of wood it is but 
the whole fuselage is covered with a layer of deck cloth as well. 
I would appreciate any thoughts about this area. 
Thanks 
Bob R 

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Re: KR> OneDrive pics

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Well, here is a link to my Facbook album with the pics in it. Try this one, the 
others are confusing me.

 
https://www.facebook.com/bob.russell.731/media_set?set=a.10154950447215390.1073741829.536500389&type=3



Bob R

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Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:30:44 AM
Subject: Re: KR> OneDrive pics

I don't understand why that is. I haven't used ONedrive before ( always 
Dropbox) but apparently it is not supposed to need a password.
 Is there someone more knowledgeable about it?
Bob R

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Re: KR> OneDrive pics

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I don't understand why that is. I haven't used ONedrive before ( always 
Dropbox) but apparently it is not supposed to need a password.
 Is there someone more knowledgeable about it?
Bob R

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Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:24:46 AM
Subject: Re: KR> OneDrive pics

It is requiring a password?

Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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KR> OneDrive pics

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Okay, I have the pics in OneDrive , here is the link. Hopefully this will work 
for all. 

https://onedrive.live.com/?id=31FB47F180802952%21510&cid=31FB47F180802952 

Thanks 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> pics of new projects

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I will take a look at that... Thanks
Bob R

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Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:12:10 AM
Subject: KR> pics of new projects


> "Bob, Can you send them so I don't have to have a DropBox account like
other DropBox people."

I've got the same issue when I went to look at the Dropbox pictures. 

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Re: KR> Liquid cooled VW angines

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Liquid cooled , wow never heard of that. I am certainly interested in hearing 
about them.
Bob R
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Sent: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 18:29:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: KR> Liquid cooled VW angines

I am a new member: Hi, guys! Can anyone tell me whether there are any other
liquid-cooled Great Plains engines flying? It is a 2180 VW with compression
upped from 7/1 to 9/1. Mine has been flying for nine years and I LOVE  that
engine. But before the maker went out of business (retired) he told me only
a very few had been sold. Would like to hear from any other owner.
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Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 62

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Try this one... I guess I had not yet created th elink. Let me know please if 
it works for you.
  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4gle3do12l35onz/AAA5kfmqEQp83IY5iih0Tzhfa?dl=0


Thanks
Bob R



Thanks
Bob R

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Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 1:32:19 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 62

Hi Bob,

The link din’t work for me.

I think you need to put the pictures folder in your “Public” dropbox folder.  
Then share the link to the pictures folder within your “Public” folder.

Cheers,
Owen



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Re: KR> fiber glassed fuselage

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

That makes good sense and any weight gain is incentive to lose it off my belly 
!!!
Bob R

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Subject: Re: KR> fiber glassed fuselage

I glassed my fuselage exterior with light weight deck cloth (1.5 oz) 

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KR> pics of new projects

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Here is a link to the projects I picked up in Ohio this week. 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/KR%20Projects 


What an adventure shared with my oldest friend and we met lots of our friendly 
American neighbours on the journey. Also learned a lot about trailering KRs for 
any future such adventures. 
I welcome any thoughts/feedback/observations. 
Bob R 
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Re: KR> fiber glassed fuselage

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Oh it's not that.
one of my projects has a layer of glass or maybe it's deck cloth already on it.
I just am trying to understand why it may have been done.
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Sent: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:40:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: KR> fiber glassed fuselage

why do you think the original fuselage design is not strong? I dont
recall any of these breaking except in a "hi-g landing" (crash)

> I am wondering if there have been any fuselages built that have the plywood 
> as well as fiber glass over the top of it?
> I k. now that would add weight but am curious about strength added as well.
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