Dear Nancy
I suspect there is a misunderstanding. In her 'The Technique of Bucks Point
Lace' p.75 Pam Nottingham states that: 'In the past very few patterns had
corners as lace was worked by the length round a pillow. most of the corners
for the narrow, traditional edgings have been designed
Dear All
Don't forget the further problem - even if you have decided that a piece of
black lace started off white, you don't know if it was dyed before or after
sale. I have been given to understand that lace was dyed ecru with coffee or
tea by owners not sellers, and I suspect most of us have
Could I add a couple to Jeri's list:
Honiton, which of course shows Honiton lace - but most of it of much higher
quality than the Honiton in other collections. It's not that far from Bath.
The Bowes Museum has an excellent collection of high quality lace in the
Blackborne collection. Its website
Dear All
Brenda has noted what can be a problem. Could I ask those producing patterns
to be printed out somehow or other to include a scale, just a line marked with
a cm or inch (or both) so that we can check if all is well, or adjust if
necessary. I attended a workshop given by Cathy Barley, the
Dear All
One further thought on prickings: I am working on/working out a fairly complex
Beds pattern, and am at present on version 3. Â I have pricked out, from the
paper draft, the pinholes for the pattern features and trails, and foot and
headside, but on Mrs Underwood's advice, just marked
I have a cover with a layer of carpet-type felt under it for a standard 18inch
cookie/45cm mushroom pillow. Â It has the additional advantage of giving a
slight amount of give which makes sewings using a needlepin much easier -
it's not much worse than using a proper Honiton pillow, and useful for
a proper look at the pricking
and lace, but got stone-walled. Â That project is now back on the list (though
it will be some time before the current would-be masterpiece - mark three and
counting - is off the pillow!)
Kind regards
Leonard
From: Jill Hawkins j...@myhawkins.co.uk
To: Leonard Bazar
Dear All
Just to give lace makers in London (and area) advance notice that
Cockfosters laceday will run next year, on Jan 31. The usual hall has closed,
but Anne and Christine have found a new location, a few minutes walk from
Oakwood tube, but in the other direction - with the added advantage
Dear Jane
In my torchon days, my
favourite was the ctct at the corners, but
honeycomb stitch (ctt pin
ctt) at the centre pins; it seemed to round out the
centre.
For those who like
torchon with as wide a variety of stitches as
possible, or just sight
of a wide range to make a choice,
Dear Jeri
I hope I am proved wrong, but I doubt if anyone working in a
machine lace factory bothered singing to be heard - too much noise (of
machines, not workers).
leonard...@yahoo.com currently attempting the first
flower in Mrs Dickson's Bibilla book - finding it rather tricky, and making
Dear All
As Jill noted, the latest copy of Lace has arrived - and I see that
the introduction book is reprinting. Worth the wait if you are new to
Milanese, or just want the basics (and a bit more) in a convenient form
leonard...@yahoo.com - back from Woking lace day, to which Veronica Main had
Just a couple more - Mrs Read's introductory lessons from Lace were
republished by the Lace Guild, and have now been joined by her Alphabet, good
value at GBP5 and 6 respectively; I assume plus P+P.
Kind regards
leonard...@yahoo.com
-
To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing
Dina's teacher, Suzanne Jarvis, has asked me to put a note onto âArachneâ
that Dina Lecker has died so that her online lace chums will know what
happened.
She died peacefully in her sleep after a year long illness on Monday
20th Jan. her funeral was held on the 21st at Golder's Green
Dear Jeri and Susan
Thanks for the kind comments; I can assure you I did
think very carefully before contradicting Mrs Carter!! I do, however, wear
evening dress, with a dress shirt, at least a couple of times a year at
non-lace events, and like to wear my lace then, if possible, and a full
Dear All
Sue (Babbs) has kindly posted a picture of the demonstration piece I
described earlier, as a few people had asked about it; it seems you have to be
in the US to post to Flickr for some security reason... However, even in the
UK
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/11692789313/ gets me
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:48:02 +
From: laceandbits laceandb...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Freehand Lace with 6 pairs or less
A large
fully-dressed pillow with many bobbins and dense pattern is discouraging and
elicits the usual I don't have the patience!.
Oh how I agree with Jeri on
this
Dear All
It is of course difficult to work out how a textile was made just
by looking at it, but don't forget that the basic tools for making something
can be used in many different ways. Just because something is made with lace
bobbins on a lace pillow does not ensure that it is made using
One thing the discussions of this - using heelball, pricking through original
prickings etc - makes very clear that the photocopiers we now take for granted
are a very modern invention, and most of us can remember when they were
unreliable - distorted, shrunk patterns on odd shiney paper that
Dear All
Just a quick reminder that this book is on sale at the Queen's
Gallery, and that In Fine Style finishes on 6 October - it has a section on
children and their clothes (very upper class only!!)
leonard...@yahoo.com
in an unseasonably warm London, stewing down the last of the
Again, the Queen's Gallery exhibition threw some light on this, certainly on
expensive the laundry skills a lace wearer would need to buy. However, there
were also some thought-provoking comment on how accurately the clothes in the
portraits mirrored what the subjects would have worn. Clearly,
An article in the Weekend Financial Times, at present on line at
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/1b3218fe-8717-11e2-bde6-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2NvNh
cA53 gives an interesting insight into how designers, High Street and couture,
are using lace now. Obviously machine, but it may inspire one of us to wear
-
To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line:
unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to
arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site:
http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
I was delighted to read Amanda's reference to book 2 of Le Pompe being
available in full on the Professor's site (at
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/books/pompe2.pdf) both to have the
resource and to be able to clear something from my draft file. I've only
just been able to catch
Dear All
Apologies for cluttering up the list, but I'd be
grateful for an e mail address for the
Australian/Honiton lace competition. I've been asked
for details but had not kept them
Please reply privately, of course.
With thanks
Leonard
Tamara's comments, as ever, sent me back to the books and reconsidering old
assumptions, especially in the light of Ellen's comments on reproducing old
lace.
Tamara and I went on a course on freehand lace in Prague, and seeing in the
light of that, realised that some early metallic lace would
Sorry, should have added to my last on this the way used in the 19th century
Alexandra Stillwell recommends as working best for her - use a thicker pair of
threads (just one pair) in the footside, and work cloth and twist instead of
cloth with it. Has the vice of its virtue - not surprisingly,
If it's the relative tension of the headside and footside of a point ground or
similar lace that makes a pricking with a corner at 90 degrees produce lace
where the corner isn't, then this may be the same factor that makes a straight
length of Bucks have a ruffled headside when the footside is
I too have been enjoying and learning from this thread. Yet another source for
fillings using this pricking is Decorative Fillings for Bucks Point Lace by
Geraldine Stott. I bought my copy in 1996, and as it has no ISBN, it may have
been privately printed and now difficult to acquire.
Joyce suggested as differences between Bucks and Tønder:
in Bucks a picot is made in the valley at the headside, but in Tønder, at
the valley pin the workers are brought through the headside passives, twisted
twice around the pin, and then taken back through the headside passives and
into the
BBC radio 4 is running a repeat of the history of childhood in Britain The
Invention of Childhood at 9pm in the evenings of this week. Monday night's
episode stated that under the Orders of the Poor 1536 (just after the
dissolution of the monasteries) parishes had to ensure that the children
Just to add to Dianne's review of the exhibition, and answer some of Devon's
queries.
Firstly, yes the exhibition is out of this world, and should be seen by anyone
at all interested in lace, or indeed fine arts or crafts, or textiles or
costume. The pains that have been taken can be shown by
So far it is loads of fun, although my fingers are sore from the pins.
Dear Tanya
Try pricking the pattern with a size larger needle - it can help!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
-
To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Daphne
I don't know whether there is a teacher or not in Melton Mobray, but anyone who
wants to know of groups or classes in the UK can contact the Lace Guild ([EMAIL
PROTECTED]) who keep lists. No recommendations - just people who have provided
their details. We're happy to add to
Note for Lace Guild members - some of us may have received a duplicate magazine
124 This was due to a power failure at the mailing house when the names and
address were being printed - please do not telephone headquarters or post the
second issue back. Why not pass the this second issue on to
A further thought on the cape, inspired by Tamara's comment
it was supposed to have
been a cape, if abbreviated one (more like a Bertha, maybe?).
Looking at the pricking, Tamara has as usual hit a nail on the head - it is
abbreviated! The pricking notes that the upper edge was meant to be
I find the way words change their meanings leaving puzzles for the future
fascinating - Brugge lace turning into witches via Spanish being one!
Happily jumping in with full ignorance, is it possible that piete in the
original posting means exactly what it says, in that it's the French for
Jane's wish was nicely timed, as the latest Lace Guild magazine, just being
distributed, has some details of the April 2007 convention, and a fair bit from
me about efforts to keep the price down! We have secured some (basic, single)
accommodation on campus for GBP30 a night bed and breakfast,
, but I'm sure everyone thinks their
local tradition is the most efficient!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message
From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Leonard Bazar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 8 July, 2006 12:03:38 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Tambouring
Just a lace-related footnote to the reminiscences of sewing machines. In her
fascinating talk on tambouring, Joan Merrifield, the doyenne of Coggeshall lace
making, mentioned that the type of hook she uses for tambouring by hand, and
originally used when beading professionally, is the needle
Dear Jean
I think the leather cloth may go under the bobbins, so
is the worker cloth not the cover cloth. Hilary Booth
described her experiences making lace in Le Puy in the
summer of 1981 (Lace 26, pages 17-18) and said The
pillows are French-style with a roller, and covered in
oilcloth. ...
Tiny
Have just bought the catalogue - it looks as though it
will be excellent. The bulk of the lace is the Fulvia
Lewis collection, examples of which are of course in
her book, and also Santina Levy's Lace, a History.
Other gems are couture, including dresses owned and
worn by Princess Di and
Signing off on the previous posting reminds me - the
2007 Lace Guild convention will be at Reading
University on 14/15 April.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@! come-ons? Let our
Pompi has asked me to forward this to the list - at
last a definitive answer on this, at least for one
major type of pg lace.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re point Ground with out pins - Downton Lace -there
are a number of prickings with out pinholes in the
ground in the collection of Downton Lace
As ever, Miss Channer has some interesting side-lights
on this. It's on p.70 of her Practical Lacemaking,
but unfortunately not one of the sections that made it
into the second edition. It is a warning against
automatically truing up all old patterns on a totally
regular grid.
The pricking of
Reading the quotation of David Springett's comment
that ivory may have been used for ladies' bobbins
reminds me of a favourite remark by the Miss Tebbs in
their The Art of Bobbin Lace of 1907 - an excellent
instruction book, if not quite in comprehensible
English all the time. ... the bobbins
As I write, I'm looking at a collection of 12 of them
(I hope - haven't anticipated the pleasures to come by
turning the pages) - this year's Lace Guild Calendar!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
Win a BlackBerry device from O2
Alice wrote on 9 January
There can be a problem with some laces that use gimp.
Someone once reported that a pattern was almost
impossible to do, as printed in a book. The answer
was that it was printed upside down. When turned
around, the gimp movements were possible.
As Steph noted on 11
Just adding a few odds and ends to this thread.
My favourite book on knitted Shetland lace is
Shetland Lace by Gladys Amedro, published by the
Shetland Times in , ISBN 0 900662 89 1. In addition
to lovely shawls in cobweb and thicker wool, there is
a christening robe (which matches one of the
With apologies for the delay (but possibly a project
for next year?) - another source of angel bodies and
patterns is the UK Lace Guild, where a body and two
patterns are available for GBP1. HQ is now closed
until the New Year, but details of how to order and
pay are on the website -
Dear Bridget and all in SE England
Here are details of next year's Cockfosters Lace Day.
It will be held as usual at:
Oakwood Methodist Church
Westpole Avenue
Cockfosters
Barnet EN4
On Saturday 11th February from 10am-4pm.
Speaker...Jacqui Barber.
Suppliers, Raffle, Refreshments (including
Just a quick reminder of one source of lace books -
the Lace Guild sells off some books donated for
funding purchases of books for its library, etc. The
current list is on the website, under lace suppliers
- books - second hand books. You can order over
the telephone or by e-wise, using a credit
Just to pass on a thought on this. I was told by a
Shetland spinner and lace-knitter that the skill in
producing the yarn was to ply the spun threads in such
a way that the fibres twisted one way by the initial
spin were sent back the other way in the plying, so
that they ran down the length of
July's Lace arrived today, and obviously I most
enjoyed the picture of ME holding (someone else's, I'm
afraid) knitted table cloth.
Fortunately, there are other things for those who
prefer the aesthetically pleasing!
In addition, the Chairman's letter does give the Lace
Guild's general policy on
Just a short note of a couple of lace exhibitions in
the UK (actually England).
There is an exhibition of work by Brooklands College,
City and Guilds students, studying embroidery at
Henrietta Parker Centre, East Molesey and lace
students from Camberley Centre. It's at Weybridge
Library, Church
Dear Tess
Don't know the picture you have in mind, but there is
a photograph of a Miao lady from China woking on a
wooden stool with bamboo bobbins weighted with coins
(spangles!!). She is making a fine silk braid for use
in embroidery - her sleeves are decorated with this
work. There is no
Just to add to Laurie's posting - it is wise to check
with sites what's available and when. On the plus
side, with notice you may gain access to a reserve
collection. The real reason though for posting this
is that the VA's lace room (and some other textile
rooms) are closed at present, for the
I've been reading the instructions and hints on
scrolling the Milanese/duchesse method with great
interest, and thanks to all providing them. I too
hope to do better next time I try - I seem to get a
series of holes just inside the outside edge, which I
don't like in a naturalistic pattern. I
The EG review is illustrated
with 5 color photographs:
a French toile de jouy, embroidered Romanian peasant
blouse, Turkish woman's
robe, North African pierced and appliqued hanging,
plus a painting Decorative
Figure on an Ornamental Background - 1926. The
reviewer says the show
Weldon's started publishing their Practical Needlework
magazines in 1886, producing one a month on various
crafts, and issuing each year's in sequentially
numbered volumes. Vol 10 was published in 1895. So
far, so logical. Unfortunately, the separate monthly
instalments were numbered by topic,
When I wind the bobbins for her, they are better
behaved but, as soon as she has done some reverse
lace, and rewound the bobbins, the problem comes back.
Maybe I ought to let her use the 'class bobbin
winder' and see if it does in fact make a difference.
I don't think it is the left-handed
Just a short note on the Lace Guild AGM in Bristol on
8-10 April; there is to be a message board, which
should allow Arachnes to make contact. I suspect a
good time to meet up would be at the fork buffet/lace
in on the Friday evening, when we'll be able to see
each other and our work. I'll be
For anyone in the area (possibly after the Lace Guild
AGM in Bristol the day before?), Princess Anne is
visiting Honiton Museum on Monday 11 April. In
addition to seeing the permanent exhibitions of lace
and local history, there will be an exhibition
relating to Honiton lace made for royalty put
The Springett's collection included weighted lignum
vitae bobbins, 19th century, large bolbous bobbins
whith compartments which unscrew, believed to have
been used to make gold lace for vestments at York
Minster, no.643 in the auction catalogue, p.74 in
Success to the Lace Pillow. These are not
Dear Steph
Assuing your friend simply needs a full-sized circular
needle - a 100cm one more than takes enough for a 45
square shawl, and far more than can be crammed safely
or not on a set of 5 16 wires (personal experience!).
However, she may find a tip of E Zimmermann's useful:
run a thread
Dear Devon
I suspect the original table you were recalling was in
Pat Earnshaw's Bobbin Needle Laces - Identification
and Care, which tabulates this for various laces, and
includes the figure of 10,000, though not for gros
point. Her figures are based on averaging counts in
1/8 inch squares, so
Dear Lorelei and all
It's not often I jump in on any thread without mulling
it over for a week at least, but in this case I do
feel strongly enough to do so. Of course I agree that
second hand lace is worth what someone is willing to
pay for it, and that lace sold by the maker should
provide a
Firstly, apologies - I think my machine may have sent
the digest to which I was responding as a reply (I
suppose some of the blame is mine, but it should know
me better by now - Tamara's views on technology are
endorsed). Now what I meant to send:
Dear Evelynn
As the replies to date have made
Lise-Aurore said I'm thinking of mixing bobbin lace
and needlelace. Here's the question. Let's say I'm
making a Russian-type lace doily, and have made the
tape/braid in 60/2 linen. Sould I decide to make
needlelace inside the doily, what size of thread would
I use to make the needlelace? Do
As I was in at the beginning of the current round on
the use of diagrams, in that it was triggered by
Tamara commenting on my comments to her, but haven't
actually posted on it, I thought I should set out what
I was interested in, especially as the subsequent
debate has illuminated some of it.
I
The latest OIDFA magazine has arrived, and has a
fascinating article in it which does answer some of
the things I was querying in the earlier posting on
point ground laces. Claire le Goaziou describes a
sample book of black and white silk point ground lace
from Grenoble from a school operating
As I make Bucks point, but not Chantilly, I put
forward my views on the debate on whole and half
stitch in them with diffidence, but it seems to me
that one point that has not been addressed is the
difference made by working in black or white.
One of the features of much white floral Bucks point
Some of us have mentioned the UK Lace Guild's/Pat
Rowley's Art Trade or Mystery - Lace and Lacemaking
in Northamptonshire as having a point ground paisley
pattern in it, though as it's 8 inches wide, with a
4.5 inch repeat, possibly not something to be knocked
off quickly for the top of a blouse!
Karisse
The fillings in your mat are a variant of honeycomb
with tallies, should be no problem, and what Pam
Nottingham calls hexagonal cloth. Details of how to
work it are on page 153 of her Technique of Bucks
Point Lace, in my opinion by far the best book on
true floral Bucks point. The mat
For me one of the highlights of the OIDFA congress was
the lace of the Jewish museum in Prague. We had a
lecture by Dana Veselska, who had been instrumental in
putting the exhibition together and producing the
superb catalogue, which gave some insight into how the
collection had arisen and the
I work Bucks using the unspangled bobtails (aka
thumpers, though the term used to be kept for the very
large ones for gimp etc). I keep the non-working
pairs in bundles, as Steph and others note, but use
strips of crotchet to hold them - it keeps them in
order as well as out of the way. It's
Just a short note from Prague's Agricultural
University, where the conference and the preceding
courses are being held. We're now on the second day
of the courses, so settling in. I'm on the freehand
lace course, which is traditional Slovak lace worked
without a pricking, and just about
Viv
If you do want to try out Honiton without wasting
money on new equipment but without hampering yourself
so you give up unnecessarily, I'd suggest the
following:
Pillow: If you have a 16 inch domed straw pillow, use
it, provided it is firm. If you want to use a
slightly domed polystyrene
There is a picture of a punto in aria maker in a book
of contemporary Venetians in the Museo Correr's
library dated to approximately 1754 (not sure why not
exactly!). She is sitting with her pillow on her lap,
and apart from the fact that it is not on a stand,
very similar to the modern Burano
What I do when cordonettes meet, say when a vein hits
the edge of a leaf, is work the outside one first, ie
the edge of the leaf, then the vein virtually up to
it, cut the padding threads for the vein, loop stitch
over then once or twice to hold them together, and
take the working thread under the
I've been fascinated by the different ways makers of
Binche and the other Flemish laces use diagrams, and
plan and execute their work; not at all like
traditional floral Bucks or Beds. I wonder if there
is any documentary evidence (prickings or diagrams)
indicating how the originals were worked,
Well, I've fallen into the temptation of joining the
Channer debates. They've approached a subject dear to
my heart, working floral Bucks (or Beds) without a
diagram, but the real trigger is the acquisition last
week of a copy of the original 1928 edition of Miss
C's Practical Lacemaking Bucks
A shortish note, as this is possibly going (slightly)
o/t, and my lunch time's nearly over.
If you visit John Lewis, Oxford Street, and/or
Liberty's (both not as good as they were, but still
marvellous) don't miss Mccullough Wallace, in Dering
Street, off Oxford Street, virtually opposite JL's.
I had expressed an interest in Honiton and 3D laces,
and Devon put out 8 carefully selected pieces for us
to look at. Some are also in the IOL list, so I won't
go on too much about them, but there are some aspects
of them that can't be ignored.
The wedding apron, obviously and understandably a
Odd coincidence - part 1 being posted virtually as
Devon posted the preview of the IOL visits planned for
early August. Hope this acts to whet appetites rather
than spoils any surprises (some changes made with that
in mind).
During our lunch break we looked at the few, but
superb, pieces of lace
84 matches
Mail list logo
