Dear Sue et al, This has been discussed already on Arachne several years ago.
I am one who is patiently waiting to make my Tonder lace in linen. Alex
Stillwell told me it was due to the fact that linen thread is now made
exclusively by machine, and those machines won't accept the very long fib
Thanks for weighing in on this issue Brenda! I’ve annotated my Threads for
Lace accordingly. My search has identified all kinds of linen threads/yarns
that I’d never heard of. Most of them are heavier weight to please the knitters
& book binders. BUT, perhaps I’ve hit a nerve here. Lacemakers a
Knoxâs and J Harris & Sons were discontinued many years ago, as were DMC
linen threads and the finer C&F. I thought that the best chance of still
getting a fine linen thread would be from Bart and Francis, but their 130/2
isnât showing on their website. Several years ago they were looking at
Pulling out my Paternoster/6, I see the following linen threads are in
range:Bart & Francis 130/2, 34wpc; Bouc 110, 37wpc and 140, 46wpc; C&F 120, 37
wpc, 140, 46wpc; DMC Lin Floche150, 40wpc; DMC Lin pour Dentelles, 70, 40wpc;
Fresia 140/2, 36wpc; J Harris & Sons Pure Flax Lace Thread 140, 44wp
To follow up—apparently Bockens has discontinued 120/2 linen (34wcm) so Holly
is offering Fil au Chinois, 1500m. Seems like a 3 lifetime supply plus I was
aiming for a slightly finer thread. I’ve been working with YLI Fine metallics
(39wcm) on a 3mm isometric grid. It’s a good fit for that scal
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Subject: [lace] Linen thread
Hello All! Quick question—it seems like semi-fine linen thread in the 40wcm range
is not available in the US. What gives? I want to make a bangle Christmas ornament
& try linen. Cotton isn’t my first choice. Any thoughts? Many thank
Hello All! Quick question—it seems like semi-fine linen thread in the 40wcm
range is not available in the US. What gives? I want to make a bangle Christmas
ornament & try linen. Cotton isn’t my first choice. Any thoughts? Many thanks.
Sincerely, Susan Hottle, South Florida, USA
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Hi Arachnids
Researching Mechlin using a Veho microscope I found that much of it was made
using linen thread finer than 240/2 Egyptian cotton, a few with thread as
thick as 200/2 and none with thicker thread. Also most were made using single
ply thread, the flax fibres being sufficiently long that
i live in the desert in southern Nevada USA and at the most humid we get to
about 45%. we only get 12" of rain each year (mostly within two months).
storing threads like linen (and cotton) is a challenge so i mostly use
silk and when i need the others, i only order what i need so i don't have
to
Thatâs a lot dryer than UK - we are 70%-90% relative humidity.
A fine mist of water into the atmosphere around the cabinet, not directly onto
the linen, from time to time should help especially in the drier/summer
months.
Acid free tape and an acid free marker sound fine to me.
Brenda
> On 14
Hi Joseph,
As you know I live in Adelaide and we have an extremely dry climate with
quite low humidity. This is fatal when using linen threads in our
summer as they tend to just disintegrate very quickly. I refrain from
using linen threads during our summer months.
Cheers,
Shirley T. -
I live in South Australia.
We dont live in the desert, we have an average humidity of 35-55%. I wouldnt
know how to rate that as dry or mildly damp.
I have a small cabinet that has a mesh front, and a couple of shelves. It will
fit in the bathroom. I will make some trays to put the thread in.
H
> We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement.
>
> What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that
i
> can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage?
>
> At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the
>
Thanks for your reply.
I am looking at buying Freesia Linen and Bocken's Linen, I am open to any
recommendations for other linen threads.
We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement.
What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i
can keep with the th
Dear Joseph,
A couple years ago, I heard from someone with a museum lace collection that
they had determined that some varieties of Acid Free tissue were drying.
And so, they were changing their procedures. Perhaps Devon can share some
light on the subject.
The other thing to consider i
Thank you Brenda,
We don't live in a centrally heated house, so that's not a problem.
I can install a small ventilated cabinet in the bathroom if need be. I was more
thinking about some sort of humidor.
I have some Acid-Free tissue on order at the moment.
Thanks again.
--
Regards,
Joseph
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>
> I would like to start buying some linen thread as i really like the texture
and the while concept of a fiber that you can grow (other than cotton and the
likes). I do know that linen threads store really well, but are difficult to
store.
Like any textile fibre linen is best stored in the dark.
Hi Everyone,
I have been reading up on long term storage of linen. I like to collect
supplies when i can get them, I call myself a collector, others call me a
hoarder.
I would like to start buying some linen thread as i really like the texture and
the while concept of a fiber that you can grow
> I seem to remember many years ago reading that the cultivars of flax that
made the finest threads were deliberately destroyed during the French
Revolution, along with any saved seeds. However, all may not be lost! Flax is
a diploid plant with perfect flowers, an inbreeding system, and an annual
h
>> The size of
>> the linen is size 50, 60, and 70. The brand is Campbell' s made in
Ireland.
>> What type of lace would you recommend for this linen I also acquired a few
>> skeins of linen years agoà 6 skeins size 60 thread W. J. Knox LTP LC on
the
>> label and 3 size 20 with the same maker. Wh
Hello,I have read with interest the discussion regarding linen threads. I know
I have missed part of it since I don't subscribe to the digest, so please
forgive me if I am repeating something that has already been said.Â
I seem to remember many years ago reading that the cultivars of flax that m
First of all, I just recently got some linen thread off Ebay. The size of
the linen is size 50, 60, and 70. The brand is Campbell' s made in Ireland.
What type of lace would you recommend for this linen I also acquired a few
skeins of linen years ago 6 skeins size 60 thread W. J. Knox LTP LC on
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> On 17 Oct 2016, at 16:23, Jeriames@AOL.
>
> Thank you Jeri for once again taking the time and trouble to post a lengthy
> email full of interesting history about lace related facts. I'm sure that
> many of us who complai
Original October 16 question:
Hello All! May I ask what brand linen thread you are using & why? I'm a
bit steamed to find big hunks of lint stuck in 90/2 linen thread & unsure
of whether to pick it out & risk breaking the thread or cutting it out &
adding a new bobbin. While I realize th
I have not seen slubs in old linen thread that made the very fine laces. In
fact, I believe it is the extremely long staple of the linen that made it
capable of being spun so thin. Jean suggests that it may be due to the hand
processing of the flax that makes the difference, as opposed to industria
Thank you Alice! When you mentioned Fresia linen thread, the lightbulb finally
went on. When I was buying my thread in an assortment of sizes, my choices
were between Fresia & the other one. The one I bought has a more matte finish
& the explanation was that Fresia is mercerized. So I just r
I have seen many fine old Binche pieces in the German Lace Guild's museum, and
the threads were extremely fine. Even a tiny slub would have affected the
quality of the lace! In the old flax, not only were the fibers much finer, but
they were also much longer, so that allowed fine threads which
My perspective is that there a variety of qualities of linen that give us
multiple options when planning a project. Some threads are fairly smooth, and
others have lots of slubs. The art of matching the thread to the design is
part of the fun!
Clay
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> On Oct 16, 2016, at 2:
On 17 Oct 2016, at 09:12, Kathleen Harris wrote:
> They told me that the old varieties of flax, which were used to produce linen
> thread fine enough to make, for instance, Binche lace, have been lost.
> Today's flax varieties just do not have fine enough fibres.
I have heard that too, but won
I have spun flax into linen thread, fine enough to make lace, but only just! I
made a small owl with it (Gill Dye's design?). I have discussed linen thread
with tutors from the Kantcentrum in Bruges. They told me that the old varieties
of flax, which were used to produce linen thread fine enough
Not all brands of linen are the same. I used Fresia brand linen in the
tablecloth I finished this year. It was quite smooth. The few slubs were
far apart. I think the Fresia thread was made for lacemaking. The linen
that is full of slubs was probably made for weaving, and the slubs were
i
Thank you Adele! I particularly appreciate your reference to linen clothing as
there as some very fine linen clothes out there. Beautiful to wear &
launder--& they last for years. Others are unsuitable for much of anything &
they don't last long even on delicate cycle! So It seems that finel
Hi Susan:
True story - in London the mid-1960s, linen manufacturers worked and worked to
get the slubs (that’s what those big hunks of lint are called) out of the linen
thread used to make fabric, because people wanted smooth linen for high-quality
dressmaking. Then the 60s fashion revolution h
Hello All! May I ask what brand linen thread you are using & why? I'm a bit
steamed to find big hunks of lint stuck in 90/2 linen thread & unsure of
whether to pick it out & risk breaking the thread or cutting it out & adding a
new bobbin. While I realize that linen was nicer in the "good old
Brilliant! Many thanks Brenda.
Jill
in Milton Keynes
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comes out as a fairly straight line so I
would predict that size 60 will be around 38-40 w/cm
Brenda
On 1 Aug 2014, at 09:48, Jill Hawkins wrote:
> Is anyone familiar with Knox's Gimp Lace Linen Thread, 2 cord, 60? A friend
> won
> a spool in an auction recently and is keen to kn
Is anyone familiar with Knox's Gimp Lace Linen Thread, 2 cord, 60? A friend won
a spool in an auction recently and is keen to know what thread this might
compare to. I have looked in Brenda Paternoster's book and found some other
sizes of this thread, but nothing that is 2 cord, 60.
> In the evening when I'm done I cover the lace, then spray the cover with
> plain water. Much less water than actually moistening the towel, and let it
> sit overnight with no other cover. It is very difficult to see if it's
> working, as only 3 threads breaking in a week, of about 10 hours'
My first teacher advised taking a paper towel, wetting it, wringing it out
and sort of arranging it in a three dimensional shape with lots of
surfaces, under the cover cloth which is held up with pins. This creates sort
of a
vapor chamber that is not air tight and that does not have the dam
Hi Lynn...
Years ago, there was an extensive series of discussions about this issue. Our
Polar Vortex has really affected the threads with which we work!
You are right to add moisture to your threads when the humidity is so low in
our heated homes. As I recall, the collective advice was to
I have been working away on the edging for the altar cloth. 2 weeks ago I
had made a total of 108 inches, only 26 inches to go. And then, when we
were having all that very cold weather and the heat was on much more than
usual, 3 threads broke in one week. Not cool. I remembered that lacemake
Hi Sherry
Knox was a leading manufacturer of lace thread until sometime mid 20th century,
so if your thread is still in good condition and hasn't dried out and become
week you can use it for bobbinlace. Size 20 measures 18 wraps/cm and between
Perle 8 and Perle 12 in thickness. You need a (to
Sherry
The first thing I would do is pull out a length and try breaking it with your
hands. Whether that is easy or hard to do will show you if the linen is in
good enough condition to use. If it breaks as easily as 2 strands of stranded
cotton, throw it out or use it for surface embroidery. It
There was a discussion I think on Linen thread. It got me thinking that I
had some around here somewhere. Well the other evening I was looking for
something else and lo and behold here was the linen thread that I had. I think
it is old thread. My thread still had their labels on them. I have six
ds to the pound... It
was a single ply. This is the one I was curious about!
Clay
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Does anyone (Brenda?) know more about the properties of this thread?
Clay
Who doesn't plan to bid, btw... ; )
Clay Blackwell
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Subject: [lace] linen thread on ebay
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> Subject: [lace] linen thread on ebay
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> Hi there
>
> I have just found the following ebay seller who is selling 100% irish
> linen thread
>
> http://search.eb
Hi there
I have just found the following ebay seller who is selling 100% irish
linen thread
http://search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQsassZceol-deasQQhtZ-1
I will not be bidding because I cant see me using this much but perhaps
one/some of you?
Jenny Brandis
Kununurra, Western Australia
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