[lace] Happy Anniversary

[Jane Partridge]

Over the years the question has come up as to whether other means of discussing 
matters may be better - some have tried ning, others yahoo groups - I seem to 
remember it was a yahoo group that was (or was to be) set up to discuss the 
details of the millenium project. It was, to me at least, always too much 
bother going to find or join other sites so I stuck with Arachne. The main 
'problem' with changing to another 'group' was that there were always a number 
who didn't like whatever group it was for whatever reason - would never use 
yahoo, facebook, etc. So we stayed with Arachne which continues to serve its 
purpose well; we've surmounted problems like how to view photos (even when the 
photo site we were using went down permanently). It may be a little slower in 
response, but there is always someone to answer a question, no matter how often 
it is asked. But then, we're lacemakers, we're used to the slower pace of life 
(vbg).

Where facebook is concerned, I did join bobbin lacemakers for a while but left, 
and find lacemakers (which was set up so that any type of lace can be 
discussed) far more friendly and helpful. Photos are shared of latest projects, 
as well as the "where have I gone wrong" photos, which are helpful to 
beginners. The availability of easy translation has encouraged non-English 
speaking lacemakers to join in, something we've never quite achieved on 
Arachne, although the welcome has always been extended with the suggestion that 
there will usually be someone on the list who can translate, and we don't mind 
if the standard of English isn't brilliant.

It's good to see so many of the 'long in the tooth' Arachnes are still with us. 
I joined somewhere around July 1995, about three months after it started, after 
it was mentioned (I think by Jean Peach) on either uk.rec.crafts or 
rec.crafts.textiles.needlework - it was through sites like that that I 
discovered that computers had uses for things not just work related! - 
surprisingly some of the rec.crafts groups are still going, too.

Is it time to start considering whether we are going to do/have something 
special for our 25th anniversary in two years time? (We could set up another 
yahoo group and then ignore it, in good Arachne tradition - vvbg).

Jane Partridge

Jane Read wrote... 

I've recently joined the facebook group 'Bobbin Lacemakers' and I have
to say, I think Arachne is much, much more useful. It is sooo much more
informative.

The facebook group seems to be mainly photos with occasional short
questions  answers, its not the place to have a 'proper' informed
discussion.

Long may Arachne continue.

Best wishes,
Jane
In a briefly sunny New Forest

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[lace] Lacing Outside

[Lin Hudren]

I have been enjoying the lovely weather here in the southwest USA and
sitting outside for several hours each day to lace.  we now have a
tremendous amount of flies caused by the lovely weather.  they are a
nuisance.  we never freeze to kill off insects during the winter as we are
in true desert.  i have a recipe for a spray that i can spray in the air
and it keeps bugs away.  i have to make up a batch for this year.  you get
a big bottle of cheap blue mouthwash and mix in 3 cups of Epsom salts with
three cans (12 oz.) stale beer.  mix until salt dissolves.  put into a
spray bottle and extra back in the mouthwash bottle - label it so you don't
accidentally use it in your mouth.  spray area where you sit or play
(patio, pool, etc.).  it lasts up to 80 days.  does not harm plants or
flowers but causes the mosquitoes and bugs to leave the area and not come
back.  usually spraying it twice in the summer does it.  i have to get this
mixed up and sprayed now.  i will do the air which will also float down to
the recliner and love seat outside on the deck, floor and tables, etc.
which should keep that entire area free.  i will do around my screen door
and door too so i don't get them inside either.  thought i would share this
for those who have lovely weather and enjoy being outside to do anything -
including lacing.  it is a nuisance to have to shooo them away when holding
those bobbins or tatting shuttles.  enjoy.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali

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RE: [lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix blockthis morning

[Jay Ekers]

Devon,
I am using Outlook and only got  a few words when you were using AOL.
Your recent posts "[lace] Arachne Anniversary-history" and "[lace] point
ground honeycomb? In Mechlin" via gmail were complete.

Jay in Sydney

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Re: [lace] How did Arachne start?

[Tregellas Family]

On 15-Apr-18 12:09 AM, David C Collyer wrote:

I remember when I first discovered Arachne, exploring "lace" through an
internet searcher as Yahoo, it was back in 2000.

It was around that time I think.  I wonder how many of us will never forget
Susan from Tennessee???

A blast from the past that we certainly don't need again.  :-)

Lots of photos from the US please David to post on Flicker if you can.

Cheers,
Shirley T.  -  enjoying the 6mm of rain last night even if we did get 
soaked to the skin during our walk.


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[lace] Happy Anniversary

[Jane]

So many years, how did that happen! Happy Anniversary, I raise my 
bobbins to all my fellow lacemakers :-) .


I've recently joined the facebook group 'Bobbin Lacemakers' and I have 
to say, I think Arachne is much, much more useful. It is sooo much more 
informative.


The facebook group seems to be mainly photos with occasional short 
questions & answers, its not the place to have a 'proper' informed 
discussion.


Long may Arachne continue.

In answer to Jeri's comment, I don't think there is any equivalent 
technology to the way Majordomo works. My understanding is that the 
Majordomo is part of the unix email system (and linux perhaps). All the 
social media stuff is quite different in concept and technology.


Actually, given the length of time that Arachne has been in existence, I 
should think we've been 'migrated' forward a few times. We'd know 
nothing about it, as the tech guys transfer things from an old computer 
to a new one without changing anything. No-one is going to keep a server 
running for 25 years! Most of them are lucky to last 5y.


Best wishes,
Jane
In a briefly sunny New Forest

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[lace] Re anniversary

[Shirley MEIER]

I joined back near the beginning , not sure what year. I don't have much to
say but do enjoy reading everyone else .
Shirley in Corio , Oz.

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Re: [lace] Anniversary

[sof]

Me too, I think I joined arachne in 2002.

Sof


Le 14/04/2018 à 15:02, Ilske Thomsen a écrit :

If I am right it was 2002 that I joined arachne but I am not sure. And I still 
like it to be a member.

Ilske



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[lace] Happy Anniversary!

[Susan MacLeod]

I don't remember when I joined arachne, maybe a couple years after it started.
 Jane Swanson told me about the list.  My brother built me a computer for
Christmas one year, and I've been a member ever since.  Arachne  introduced
me to the world of lacemaking.  Haven't made any lace recently, but hope to
get back to it soon.   Am working hard to get my studio back in shape so I
can get back to some hobbies that have been on time out.  Thanks for all you
do!
Sumac

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Re: [lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix block this morning

[N.A. Neff]

David,

What I do for Jeri's messages, and might work for you with Devon's, is
subscribe to both the individual messages and the digests. I quickly scan
the digests to see if I've missed any messages, so I read Jeri's late if
she hasn't bcc'd me, but I see them in full eventually.

HTH,

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 10:15 AM, David C Collyer 
wrote:

> ... usually only get the first 3 or 4 words of her emails. I
> have to wait for someone to reply (and forget to trim) before I can read
> them...
>

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Re: [lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix block this morning

[Lorri Ferguson]

I am using Outlook and I receive Devon's posts in full, and really enjoy her
scholarly research comments.
I 'love' Arachne, I feel like I have friends 'all over the world'.   I was
great to meet some of them when I went to Prague and Adelaide for OIDFA
Congress.

Lorri F  in drizzly Renton, Washington, USA


It seems to me that the only person I have trouble receiving is Devon. I'm
using Outlook and usually only get the first 3 or 4 words of her emails. I
have to wait for someone to reply (and forget to trim) before I can read
them.

Any ideas?
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS

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RE: [lace] How did Arachne start?

[David C Collyer]

I remember when I first discovered Arachne, exploring "lace" through an
internet searcher as Yahoo, it was back in 2000.

It was around that time I think.  I wonder how many of us will never forget
Susan from Tennessee???
:)
David Downunder

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RE: [lace] 23 years

[David C Collyer]

Dear Susan and other interested friends,

David, since you are the only person I have ever known to play Carnegie
Hall, please provide details!  Some Arachneans may want tickets. Be sure to
put in some lace content so it's legal.  LOL. Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA

I shall be taking lots of my Point Ground laces with me when I go to New
York next January. We arrive on Jan 14th and will be staying at the Park
Central Hotel. I think 17th and 18th are taken up with rehearsals and then
performance of Karl Jenkins' "Amadeus" with him conducting. On Jan 22nd I
fly to WA to visit Stormy Lee.
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS

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RE: [lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix blockthis morning

[DevonThein]

Dear David,
This is distressing to hear. I have started a gmail account specifically to
engage with Arachne. It is sometimes the case that I get over excited and
respond from my AOL account.   But, I had thought that I was quickly sending a
duplicate post from the gmail account when I realize I have done this.
Are people really just receiving the first few words when I send from the
gmail account? I thought that was the silver bullet.

Devon

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RE: [lace] Arachne Anniversary

[David C Collyer]

Dear Friends,

I joined Arachne in late 1995 and made lots of friends throughout the world.
B I even visited their homes in Canada, Denmark, New Zealand and the UK

This comment from Janice reminded me that I've often meant to tell you all
that now that I am retired, if ever anyone wants to mind my house here in
Ballarat, Victoria, Australia for a month or 6 just ask. The main
responsibility would be to feed and cuddle the cat (Rocket). The house is on
0.25 of an acre of forest with permanent Australian bush behind and is only
a 10 minute walk from the centre of town.

I'll go away at the drop of a hat.

David Downunder

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RE: [lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix block this morning

[David C Collyer]

Dear Friends,

The problems here, however, are almost certainly with using an AOL email
account

It seems to me that the only person I have trouble receiving is Devon. I'm
using Outlook and usually only get the first 3 or 4 words of her emails. I
have to wait for someone to reply (and forget to trim) before I can read
them.

Any ideas?
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace] Anniversary

[Ilske Thomsen]

If I am right it was 2002 that I joined arachne but I am not sure. And I still 
like it to be a member.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix block this morning

[N.A. Neff]

Sorry Jeri, but I'm with Shirley on this one. I too am grateful for your
wonderful posts and all your work in providing info to the lace and the
broader textile community. The problems here, however, are almost certainly
with using an AOL email account. AOL is a dinosaur-era system that doesn't
have guards against users sending mass junk mailings and scams. As a result
many more advanced email systems screen out mailings from AOL, Hotmail, and
increasingly Yahoo. A mailing to Arachne is interpreted by many servers as
a mass mailing,  which it actually is, and gmail (among the most advanced
email services) screens all AOL messages. I get very little spam, much less
than 1% of my messages, as a result.

I'm afraid the best solution by far would be for you to move to a newer,
better email system. I recommend gmail (having used Outlook extensively),
but almost anything would be better than AOL, Hotmail, or Yahoo. Were
Arachne to move to an even newer service, the problems are likely to be
worse.

BTW, delays in posting messages, especially long ones, are just as likely
to be caused by a delay on the internet itself in a packet that is part of
the message, since the message won't be delivered until all packets have
been received. That delay could be occurring at any one of millions of
servers, most of which are probably newer than the AOL ISP's servers.

I vote that Arachne stay with the current system.

Nancy
Connecticut,  USA

On Apr 14, 2018 03:59, "Tregellas Family"  wrote:

...why would we want to move our wonderful list somewhere else?...

On 14-Apr-18 10:06 AM, Jeri Ames wrote:
...Perhaps we should consider how we can update dinosaur-era computer
programming...

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[lace] Happy Anniversary

[Celia Mulhearn]

Sending my Best Wishes and Anniversary greetings to all. 
I joined the list back in 1998, I think, having seen a piece about it in the 
Lace Guild magazine. I have enjoyed the discussions, raffles, exchanges and 
most definitely the information that has been given on the list and the 
camaraderie within the group.
I don’t make as much lace these days as I have found lots of other crafts since 
moving house 4 years ago but still have work on pillows waiting for me to have 
the enthusiasm once again.
Thank you all for ‘being there’ and for being inspirational
Celia Mulhearn
Somerset UK. Where the weather is overcast and misty.

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RE: [lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix block this morning

[J-D Hammett]

Hi Fellow Arachnids,

Firstly, thank you Jeri for all you do for the Lace community and that despite
being frustrated by the system you keep on helping us. Your email has com
through to me ok. I looked at that wonderful shirt yesterday. Being a medieval
re-enactor as well as a lace maker I was doubly interested.

Secondly, my thanks to Liz for hosting the program AND PAYING for it all these
years. I have sent an donation towards the costs, but that was several years
ago. It would be nice if more people could see their way to doing that.

Lastly, my thanks to Avital for keeping us on the straight and narrow with our
emails. Yes, I am sorry to say that she has had to rap my knuckles a couple of
times. I have cut severely this time and I hope that despite minimal lace
content this missive is allowed.


Joepie, East Sussex, UK, where the weather looks lovely and sunny.


PS. I am just on my way to Triangle Lace Club in Eastbourne for about 4 hours.
Lovely group meeting every even numbered month on the second Saturday (10.00
to 14.00 hrs).  J.

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 .  Liz has been very generous in
providing a server to us.  Perhaps we should consider how we can update
dinosaur-era computer programming ?  Do we have a volunteer programmer and
someone with a server to share that we could transition to, and could our
existing files be kept intact ?

Jeri Ames in Maine USA

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Re: [lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix block this morning

[Tregellas Family]

Hi,

Maybe I'm a tad tired after teaching bobbin lace all day but 
. Umm, why would we want to move our wonderful list 
somewhere else?  We can always check out the wonderful lace posted to 
flicker as the address is at the bottom of each and every e-mail sent to 
Arachne.  Liz and Avital have given countless hours keeping our list in 
check and making it such a friendly place to be.

Cheers,
Shirley T.  -  who needs to put her feet up after a very busy day.


On 14-Apr-18 10:06 AM, Jeri Ames wrote:
> As usual, I sent a lot of gmail users bcc's this morning in connection with
> the wonderful weaving story from The New York Times. Â The main message,
> addressed to lace@arachne.com , failed to be delivered.  Sent the rejection
> notice to Avital. Â Am sure she is as frustrated as I am.
>
> This is a test to see if tonight's memo from my AOL account gets through to
> Arachne subscribers almost 12 hours later. Â Not being sent again to my
> private list who got bcc's this morning.
> Â
> It is possible the server for Arachne was not in service this morning, due to
> a power outage or some other reason. Â That has happened before. Â  Members
> have been discussing our long history today. Â Liz has been very generous in
> providing a server to us. Â Perhaps we should consider how we can update
> dinosaur-era computer programming ? Â Do we have a volunteer programmer and
> someone with a server to share that we could transition to, and could our
> existing files be kept intact ?
> Â
> Jeri Ames in Maine USA
> Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
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Re: [lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix block this morning

[Catherine Barley]

Fascinating article and wonder just how much it will go for.

Received your posting okay.  Thank you Jeri.

Catherine Barley

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

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Subject : [lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix block this  
morning


 
Somehow, not all of The Times address got picked up for you.  Others have
since chimed in, and I am happy you have had the opportunity to see the gold
silk shirt that is 1,000 years old and estimated to sell at Sotheby's London
for $700,000.

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