I'm wondering if it might be a machine made lace. I think some had the gimp
outline sewn in by hand later.
Jane Partridge
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Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 3:51:01 PM
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Subject: [lace] point
.
(It was thanks to Jean's eagle eyes I was credited for one of my designs used
as the basis of a chapter in a book on Bucks Point lace!)
Jane Partridge
Daphnie Martin wrote :
Nobody has the damn right to just take other peoples patterns and pretend they
are their designs.
Where is the care for our
(as she
designed it) and the Guild hold the copyright for the images and layout.
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back of my mind that he gave a talk on the subject at a (UK) Lace Guild
Convention. Some of the older Arachnes might remember? Is anyone in touch with
Kate?
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Apologies - writing this reply on my phone I forgot to trim the original!
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the bobbins and carriages be for machines, which at the time were probably
being attacked by Luddites?
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hem in the old Nottingham
Lace Centre, sadly long closed.
I would be interested to know which country the 1590 machine Nancy referred to
was in, as England at the time had a Queen, not a King.
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! and a Branscombe picture of
one of our locos, Gelert, hopefully between managing the event and sharing
videos I will be able to make some progress on both.
The link is:-
https://www.facebook.com/11416002134/posts/3667708569952974/
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of the teacher retaining learners because they were
dependent on him/her!)
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randmother was a lovely lady who died in 1982, the
year after we got married) and, as a descendant of Bedfordshire lacemakers on
his father's side , being able to do cloth stitch, so take that remark as
lightly as it was made!
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Hi Brian,
I've forwarded your email to Sara Shakespeare, the Lace Guild's Librarian, who
should be able to help. The office is closed on Mondays, so it won't be today.
Jane Partridge
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Sent: 06
Doesn't time go fast when you're making lace?! Happy Anniversary (from one
who's been an Arachne from about 3 months after it started).
Happy Easter (or whatever else you may be celebrating this weekend) to
everyone, too.
Jane Partridge
Original message
From: Lin Hudren
Alex have you first checked for copyright clearance on this? I seem to remember
that a number of the books were given (or possibly sold) to The Lace Guild
after Jean Dudding died. They will still be in copyright as it isn't yet 70
years since her death.
Jane Partridge
Original
with those similarly employed
(for ease of work and sales) where ideas and patterns may have been shared.
That's what I think, but none of us were there at the time so we will never
really know!
Jane Partridge
Brian wrote:
There is little doubt in my mind that the settlers must have made a real
2
The Antique Point she included was Branscombe Point, not Battenberg, Jane :-)
The book also has instructions for making Honiton (bobbin) lace, some history
and how to care for lace (though the methods would probably raise eyebrows now).
Jane Partridge
m the news, is the time to chide list members over choice
of subject line.
Jane Partridge
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Subject: [lace] Jacqui Southworth's Death on May 15, 2019
At Jeri's request, I am forwarding this posting. Please address any
personal responses t
It is rare for us now to produce the 40 or so messages a
day we were getting to then, so I wonder if it's worth still having two
separate lists?
Jane Partridge (England, but often to be found at a small preserved railway in
North Wales).
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h is one of the reasons I started
going there, as it is door-to-door by train from Birmingham International.
Please email me off list if you would like to join us, there is still space for
the April weekend but I do need to know numbers as soon as possible.
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mous...@live.co.u
y-man came to collect the lace
and pay the cottage worker making it, leaving ends at the "start" not even in
rolls, and the lace on the pillow continuing.
How we hang in or finish off our lace has little relevance to those days, when
lace was made and time wasted meant less bread
sitting in my
thread box, some 23 years later, and I can see my daughter!
s inheriting them at this rate :-).
Jane Partridge
Susan wrote:-
This was particularly painful because I wanted to—wash my mouth out with
soap—work in white.
Madeira Cotona 30—I own too many spools—none white—but it s
e, you will, if you find it
isn't for you, then don't feel you've got to. There are plenty of other
activities that can be used to fill "me" time.
Devon, please feel free to forward this to your friend.
Jane Partridge
From: owner-l...@ara
, all you need to do is pin four pairs on your pillow and work
either plaits or tallies and see what looks best, which might change according
to the size and/or shape of the bead.
Jane Partridge (apologies if this is a double signature, I can't remember if I
set one up on my phone
Honeycombe stitch as a ground is also known as Spanish Ground - might this have
any bearing?
Original Message
Subject: [lace] Identification question
From: Devon Thein
The most distinctive thing about these two pieces is that they both
have a honeycomb background mesh.
by the
small holes around the edges - it wasn't Binche, was it? If so, trying to avoid
the holes might be removing an intentional effect???
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ould have been at risk. In the competition!
, the choker won a Medal of Excellence!
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any cases certainly isn't true. Having
patterns for beginners in the magazines is as important as having the more
challenging ones for those of us who have been making lace for years, and even
more so, if we are to encourage new lacemakers to subscribe in the f
, raising over £100 for the hospice, over
the next six months - in fact I finished making another one yesterday but can
no longer remember how many I've made over the years! The patter!
n has now been published by the Sunnyvale Museum in California.
Jane Partridge
adult female conversation!
Jane Partridge
From: owner-l...@arachne.com <owner-l...@arachne.com> on behalf of Elena
Kanagy-Loux <enkanagyl...@gmail.com>
Subject: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker
But I have also seen frequent reference t
Having had a quick look down the Guild's library catalogue, I'm fairly certain
it was this one "MASON S A Nottingham Lace 1760s to 1950s" - which is about the
machine lace industry, and I do remember nothing was in the title about hosiery.
Jane
about it again.
Jane Partridge
(Whose Nottingham-born husband has both Bedfordshire (hand) and Nottingham
(machine) lace makers in his ancestry)
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<maur...@roger.ka
uldn't life be boring if we all did the same thing?
Jane Partridge
Alex said:
It is
time for those of us who enjoy making and designing lace in the traditional
manner to stand up and say we should also have recognition for our art and
craft, and tradition
Lace is due out at the end of April, Liz. It is published four times a year, on
the last day of July, October, January and April. This issue will be the last
of the current membership year, so should have the renewal forms in it.
Jane Partridge
From
whether we are going to do/have something
special for our 25th anniversary in two years time? (We could set up another
yahoo group and then ignore it, in good Arachne tradition - vvbg).
Jane Partridge
Jane Read wrote...
I've recently joined the facebook group 'Bobbin Lacemakers' and I have
to sa
also explain the loose
threads along the sides of some of the braid, possibly where the weft thread
has worn away 'on the turn' over the years.
Jane Partridge
From: owner-l...@arachne.com <owner-l...@arachne.com> on behalf of Gilian Dye
<gild...@
it any other meanings?
I'm taking it to mean the type of needlelace fabric produced in Hollie Point,
where the pattern is formed by spaces, similar in effect to Assissi work in
embroidery (and an absolute pain to work - Hollie Point was not an enjoyable
part of the C course for me!).
Jane Partridge
, came with changes in fashion and thread production that meant
a larger range of thread was produced in colour - not just skeins of silk and
cotton used for embroidery.
Jane Partridge
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Devon said:
But, it is an interesting question. From the need to qualify
ust complete the basket of flowers on my
Honiton pillow (which was started on a lace weekend tutored by the late
Christine Hawken).
Jane Partridge
> I think the idea stayed in my brain until I visited the UK in 1994 and saw a
> pillow kit in a craf
It's just struck me, tapestry weavers could also be weaving their threads with
bones, so are we sure this quote relates to lacemaking?
Jane Partridge
On 21 Feb 2018, at 23:48, DevonThein
<devonth...@gmail.com<mailto:devonth...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The spinsters and the knitter
lace as being a recognised weaving technique rather than a
separate entity.
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d.org<http://www.laceguild.org> for
subscription rates. With an increase in membership/subscribers, hopefully The
Lace Guild will survive, without it, I'm sorry to say the future looks
somewhat bleak. Hazel's article in the current magazine makes the situation
clear.
tood three or four yards away from it
you won't see them :-)
Jane Partridge
Susan wrote:
I made the first leaf with DMC special dentelles 80, 30wcm/2S/3Z & I thought
it turned out OK. Last week, I used Radix 50, 32wcm, 2Z. The instructions call
for tossing out a pair of passives in the middle
and interesting, rather than it just being
a work tool for my husband! How attitudes change over the course of 25 years
or so!
Jane Partridge
From: owner-l...@arachne.com <owner-l...@arachne.com> on behalf of
jvik...@sover.net <jvik...@sover.net>
Sent: 18 Januar
. There is usually
no problem with having about a quarter of a block overhang (temporarily) at
the top of the pillow, or a similar gap at the bottom, so that you can work
comfortably in the centre.
Jane Partridge
Malvary
> The half blocks are purely spac
details as to how to join in contact me off list.
Jane Partridge
Joseph said:
I wind my midlands this way, I might be doing it in the reverse of what
I am supposed to. maybe that's why I have some slipping with my
hitch, even though its not on the head of the bobbin, but rather over
the wound
remember which, possibly Judith Gwynne's dictionary, if not Alex's)
there is a ground of honeycomb stitch (CTTpCTT) referred to as Spanish Ground,
and wondered whether this, or Kat Stitch, could have resulted from misreading
of an incomplete pricking.
Jane Partridge
will be visible.
Jane Partridge
On 19 Oct 2017, at 16:16, DevonThein <devonth...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there some reason why you wouldn???t just finish it normally and sew it
together with a needle?
Devon
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I sent this directly to Sally, but it struck me that it might help others,
too.
Jane Partridge
From: Jane Partridge <mous...@live.co.uk>
Sent: 19 October 2017 06:29
To: Sally Jenkins
Subject: Re: [lace] Joining ends of a crown
Sally, it's effectively th
Sorry, everyone, having just seen the digest I've realised I posted using my
phone and forgot to trim the message to the relevant bits.
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been attacked
though.
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On 24 Sep 2017, at 13:37, "catherinebar...@btinternet.com"
<catherinebar...@btinternet.com> wrote:
Thanks Joseph
I received this email too, which set alarm bells ringing as I wondered why the
sender didn't ask her qu
laminated, and
having low-tack adhesive stickers or dry wipe pens to mark your place sounds a
much better idea than sticking pins in or drawing over the lines. It means that
if you decide to do the same pattern again, you can re-use your original
enlarged copy, rather than having to reproduce i
Janet herself we won't know. Has anyone actually heard anything from her?
Jane Partridge
On 8 Sep 2017, at 08:10, "je...@brandis.com.au" <je...@brandis.com.au> wrote:
My suggestion is that each exchange has its own organiser.
Jenny Brandis
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I think the major will have trimmed it off, but there's a possibility that the
preview photo that comes up on my phone from the link to the Arachne Flickr
account may come through at the end of my email - I was trying to trim
everything off and delete the photo when I hit send by mistake.
Jane
aits), and even then plait
is the preferred term.
Jane Partridge
From: owner-l...@arachne.com<mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com>
<owner-l...@arachne.com<mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com>> on behalf of Ilske
Thomsen <ilske.l.thom...@t-online.de<mailto
I think Bobbin Lacemakers is a closed group, so some of us who are on Facebook
won't be able to see them, either. Are you a member of Lacemakers on Facebook,
David?
Jane Partridge
No, No, David... Please put the photos on Flicker if possible
so
the advantage
of living through the era of the newly inspired lace patterns of the 1850s, so
on that I would tend to look to the older, contemporary, published histories
than the relatively new ones in determining what was what at the time.
Jane Partridge
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continent.
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charity finances are concerned.
BTW, your email, amazingly, has come through direct on the reflected list - it
seems some do, some don't - mostly I have to wait for the digest to see what
you have written, Jeri!
Jane Partridge
--
Jeri wrote:
Dear Clare
We did have an Indian lacemaker, Sulachona, on Arachne some years ago. I don't
know if she is still around?
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'historians' didn't do and checked primary
evidence.
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of work. More likely
they were kept as ratters (as in the other article) than lapdogs.
Jane Partridge
Charlotte wrote:
While watching the Westminster Dog Show they talked about a dog that was the
lacemakers dog. Please see:
https://www.petcha.com/life-with-a-frenchie/
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exhibitions unless they are local and in easy public
transport reach.
Jane Partridge
Jeri will be pleased to know that there is an article about this exhibition
in the next issue of Lace (165), which should be arriving any time soon.
Malvary in Ottawa (who proof read this about a month ago
digest users simply hitting "reply" and
expecting the address hidden under "Arachne" in their 'To' field to be
lace@arachne.com, but it coming up with the don't.panix address instead.
Jane Partridge
Looking forward to seeing the new, updated Lace Guild website, hopefully now
. Several leaf shapes together will form a
flower. You will also find people insisting on calling your !
leaf/petal a fish!!!
Jane Partridge
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> From: jeria...@aol.com
> Date: 13 January 2017 17:15:09 GMT
> To: lace@arachne.com
> Subject: Re: [lace] Lace Fi
.
Jane Partridge
The 'problem' I have is that the hyperlink to the flickr page brings up an
attached photograph of a young man at a table with several pots of yoghurt on
it - presumably advertising of some sort - and this happens every time the
link is repeated, especially when posts are not trimmed
photograph of a young man at a table with several pots of yoghurt on
it - presumably advertising of some sort - and this happens every time the
link is repeated, especially when posts are not trimmed (and I've made that
mistake a couple of times recently, too!!).
Jane Partridge
Roughly in the middle
. The
current issue is out of stock at the distributors, but at least there's the
on-line option Jeri mentioned to see the lace.
Jane Partridge
Jeri said:
The January/February 2017 "Victoria" magazine shows a SweetMarveLace lace
doily in a lovely pho
Sorry, I hit send before trimming, forgot because it's early morning (waiting
for newspapers to be delivered for our round) and I'm using my phone so can't
see the text below my signature in the tiny bit of screen. Will try and
remember in future!
Jane Partridge
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saw
Michelle with a stack she was sending out when I was there a week or so ago.
Jane Partridge
On 24 Nov 2016, at 02:13, Janice Blair <jbl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I am feeling virtuous, I mailed my exchange cards last Monday and sent my
scans and details to Jenny. Looking forward to g
pricking at Honiton spacing a doddle but will require
patience and concentration to prick one hole at a time for a 2mm spaced Bucks
pattern!
Jane Partridge
From: owner-l...@arachne.com <owner-l...@arachne.com> on behalf of Janis
Savage <thelacepl...@hotm
nder in my library, so it will be a
kept tribute on this side of the Atlantic.
This would be such a good project to emulate - for every lace person who
has been an influence on your lace lives. Think about it. And be one who
shares. Thus ends my sermon-of-the-day.
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
ial team to write articles, as maybe some of the other publications do,
and is reliant on members to submit new articles and patterns. I believe that
you are a member of the Guild, Jeri, and you have shown yourself on Arachne to
be a very proficient writer, so why don't you write something
probably want a
flat join, so sew twice into the loop.
Jane Partridge
On 18 Aug 2016, at 19:02, Susan <hottl...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
Hello All! In over my head again & hope someone will point me in the right
direction! I'm working a narrow strip of half stitch lace that turned back
u
of precious time! Ends were cut and
seamed together as with any fabric.
Jane Partridge
On 15 Aug 2016, at 22:59, J Reardon <j...@zoominternet.net> wrote:
When ending a project, I tie a square knot and sometimes another knot, so
there are 3 half hitches, with each pair, as I'v
on the haberdashery and wool counter in a large
department store and quite often served the actress - and saw the sales of
thread and equipment increase as a result.
Jane Partridge
On 22 Jul 2016, at 17:06, Devon Thein <devonth...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would also take issue with th
ers willing to
serve on their Committee.
Jane Partridge
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. Please support the
organisations behind the magazines you subscribe to.
Jane Partridge
On 6 May 2016, at 06:43, J-D Hammett <jdhamm...@msn.com> wrote:
I know it seems a lot, but I share with my best friend who is also a lace
maker ;-)
Joepie, East Sussex, UK,
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Arachne started on 12 April 1995, I joined in July that year, so that makes
'us' 21. Strangely enough I'd totally forgotten the significance of the date,
just had a feeling all day that 12th April was somebody's birthday. Happy
birthday to us!
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> Subject: Re:
f print? Your annual subscription may give you access to a
library you can borrow it from. As they say, use it or lose it.
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mous...@live.co.uk
> From: jeria...@aol.com
> Here is a first-rate suggestion:
> Jean Leader announced March 26th - on Arachne - the "used book&quo
They might be listed at silly prices, but do any actually sell? Everything is
only worth as much as someone is prepared to pay, no matter what value someone
else (expert or not) puts on it.
Jane Partridge
On 1 Apr 2016, at 22:38, Sue Harvey <sueharve...@btinternet.com> wrote:
Likewise I didn't get the original message in this thread, but as to the lost
messages in general, I think I have solved the problem by subscribing to the
digest as well as keeping my long in the tooth reflected list subscription. By
doing so, I can now see what Jeri writes (and hopefully, Devon,
You haven't mentioned any time period - is the demonstration meant to reflect
what is being done in the regions regarded as having a Celtic past now, or in
historical times? If now, then you could probably make more or less anything
as most modern lacemakers don't worry about only working the lace
' (think
of all the easily creased wedding dresses you see!) and should hold its shape
well.
I hope you are pleased with the finished scarf, now to plan the lace gloves to
match? :-)
Jane Partridge
On 24 Jan 2016, at 20:53, jsyz...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi all
I am about to start the last repeat
Sorry, typing on my phone I forgot to trim the message I just sent in reply to
the scarf thread. My mind is on going out to take the kittens to the vets for
their important operations.
Jane Partridge
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If the fibre is silk, please do not use dish detergent. Silk is harmed by
alkalis, and dish detergents are not gentle.
Some years ago, we did a joint project in my class and one of the ladies had
got her piece grubby (from using handcream) so put it in a dish with water and
a drop of dish
Catherine wrote:> Good morning all
> My goodness, how would we manage without Jeri!
It is very, very, quiet, without Jeri's posts, Cathy! (Some of you may
remember me mentioning a while back that there seems to be some sort of
conflict between Outlook/Live and AOL, so I don't see posts from
I've not come across that particular silk, but the S303 is more use for
needlelace as it isn't particularly fine. It's a pity Texere have gone out of
business last year as some of their silks (on cones) were nice to use. Pipers
will (or at least, used to) work with you to get the colour and
I'm thinking it could be Branscombe, although the tape is fairly wide, it
looks right and the needlelace fillings look intricate enough and certainly
include some of the 'traditional' ones.
Jane partridgemous...@live.co.uk
> From: stevieni...@gmail.com
>
> Does anyone knows this type of tape
The normal definition is that lace is 'holes surrounded by thread' (whether
that thread be yarn, cotton, wire, or whatever). Crochet fits that definition
and is accepted as being lace, (particularly Irish Crochet) but some people
prefer to think of crochet that is, for example, squares made of
Could be because it has been very quiet on the list all week, so not enough
posts to make a digest?
Jane partridgemous...@live.co.uk
From: ilske.l.thom...@t-online.de
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:35:56 +0200
Dear All,
this morning I got a mail from Janice telling me that there are problems
Beds, particularly when you have raised tallies, is worked face up. Where
bookmarks are concerned, I tie off the threads into a tassel at the bottom and
tie the wrapping threads with a knot - so this in my view needs to be at the
back, so making the lace face down on the pillow.
Jane
Remove the centre pin and use it as the pin that is directly below centre, (if
you've got ground pins surrounding the spider) and tension carefully at this
point. If you wait till you are further on and taking the pins out you won't be
able to tension out the hole.
Jane Partridge
On 2 Aug
I was always taught that Torchon is worked wrong side up, if this is the case
then presumably the raised bit needs to be pushed down when the lace is taken
off the pillow, or any ends (from joining new threads in) sewn through when the
lace is taken off the pillow.
Jane Partridge
On 1 Aug
To clarify what Jeri has said, the annual bobbins have not been for members
only for quite some years now, but do have an inscription of The Lace Guild
Member 2015/6. Likewise adults have been buying the Young Lacemaker bobbins
for a long time! The bobbins (and prices) described in Jeri's post
Would we really want to do this, however, considering we have some excellent
bobbin turners who would likely be put out of work by such a move? Technology
can have devastating effects on livelihoods - call me a Luddite if you wish!
Jane Partridge
On 5 Jul 2015, at 13:13, Achim Siebert ac
When I was working on the Castle class locomotive and tender 'picture' I made
for my City Guilds, using Branscombe techniques (Branscombe Point is a Devon
tape lace (as opposed to braid lace, which is the name we use for bobbin made
laces of the ilk) similar to Battenberg but uses a greater range
Be aware, though, that not all permanent markers are waterproof - don't trust
a pen unless it has that word printed on it!
Jane partridgemous...@live.co.uk
From: cjohnson0...@comcast.net
Now if you hand-draw your pricking using a permanent marker, you don't have
to laminate.
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Some years ago (about 20!) I visited the Cecil Higgins museum in Bedford and
remember one piece (at least) of Thomas Lester's design that had a central
gimp running through the trails. I can't remember if this gimp was straight or
cable, though. Cable gimps are a common decoration in braid lace,
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