Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-02 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Sue et al, This has been discussed already on Arachne several years ago. I am one who is patiently waiting to make my Tonder lace in linen. Alex Stillwell told me it was due to the fact that linen thread is now made exclusively by machine, and those machines won't accept the very long

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-02 Thread LacySuzette
Thanks for weighing in on this issue Brenda! I’ve annotated my Threads for Lace accordingly. My search has identified all kinds of linen threads/yarns that I’d never heard of. Most of them are heavier weight to please the knitters & book binders. BUT, perhaps I’ve hit a nerve here. Lacemakers

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-02 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Knox’s and J Harris & Sons were discontinued many years ago, as were DMC linen threads and the finer C I thought that the best chance of still getting a fine linen thread would be from Bart and Francis, but their 130/2 isn’t showing on their website. Several years ago they were looking at

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-01 Thread lynrbailey
Pulling out my Paternoster/6, I see the following linen threads are in range:Bart & Francis 130/2, 34wpc; Bouc 110, 37wpc and 140, 46wpc; C 120, 37 wpc, 140, 46wpc; DMC Lin Floche150, 40wpc; DMC Lin pour Dentelles, 70, 40wpc; Fresia 140/2, 36wpc; J Harris & Sons Pure Flax Lace Thread 140,

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-01 Thread LacySuzette
To follow up—apparently Bockens has discontinued 120/2 linen (34wcm) so Holly is offering Fil au Chinois, 1500m. Seems like a 3 lifetime supply plus I was aiming for a slightly finer thread. I’ve been working with YLI Fine metallics (39wcm) on a 3mm isometric grid. It’s a good fit for that

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-01 Thread Sue Babbs
11/1/2020 1:22:44 PM Subject: [lace] Linen thread Hello All! Quick question—it seems like semi-fine linen thread in the 40wcm range is not available in the US. What gives? I want to make a bangle Christmas ornament & try linen. Cotton isn’t my first choice. Any thoughts? Many thanks. Sincer

[lace] Linen thread

2020-11-01 Thread LacySuzette
Hello All! Quick question—it seems like semi-fine linen thread in the 40wcm range is not available in the US. What gives? I want to make a bangle Christmas ornament & try linen. Cotton isn’t my first choice. Any thoughts? Many thanks. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, South Florida, USA Sent from my

[lace] Linen thread

2018-09-01 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids Researching Mechlin using a Veho microscope I found that much of it was made using linen thread finer than 240/2 Egyptian cotton, a few with thread as thick as 200/2 and none with thicker thread. Also most were made using single ply thread, the flax fibres being sufficiently long

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-14 Thread Lin Hudren
i live in the desert in southern Nevada USA and at the most humid we get to about 45%. we only get 12" of rain each year (mostly within two months). storing threads like linen (and cotton) is a challenge so i mostly use silk and when i need the others, i only order what i need so i don't have to

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
That’s a lot dryer than UK - we are 70%-90% relative humidity. A fine mist of water into the atmosphere around the cabinet, not directly onto the linen, from time to time should help especially in the drier/summer months. Acid free tape and an acid free marker sound fine to me. Brenda > On

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-14 Thread Tregellas Family
Hi Joseph, As you know I live in Adelaide and we have an extremely dry climate with quite low humidity. This is fatal when using linen threads in our summer as they tend to just disintegrate very quickly. I refrain from using linen threads during our summer months. Cheers, Shirley T. -

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-14 Thread Joseph Young
I live in South Australia. We dont live in the desert, we have an average humidity of 35-55%. I wouldnt know how to rate that as dry or mildly damp. I have a small cabinet that has a mesh front, and a couple of shelves. It will fit in the bathroom. I will make some trays to put the thread in.

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
> We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement. > > What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i > can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage? > > At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the >

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-13 Thread Joseph Young
Thanks for your reply. I am looking at buying Freesia Linen and Bocken's Linen, I am open to any recommendations for other linen threads. We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement. What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i can keep with the

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-09 Thread Jeriames
Dear Joseph, A couple years ago, I heard from someone with a museum lace collection that they had determined that some varieties of Acid Free tissue were drying. And so, they were changing their procedures. Perhaps Devon can share some light on the subject. The other thing to consider

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-09 Thread Joseph Young
Thank you Brenda, We don't live in a centrally heated house, so that's not a problem. I can install a small ventilated cabinet in the bathroom if need be. I was more thinking about some sort of humidor. I have some Acid-Free tissue on order at the moment. Thanks again. -- Regards, Joseph

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-09 Thread Brenda Paternoster
> > I would like to start buying some linen thread as i really like the texture and the while concept of a fiber that you can grow (other than cotton and the likes). I do know that linen threads store really well, but are difficult to store. Like any textile fibre linen is best stored in the

[lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-09 Thread Joseph Young
Hi Everyone, I have been reading up on long term storage of linen. I like to collect supplies when i can get them, I call myself a collector, others call me a hoarder. I would like to start buying some linen thread as i really like the texture and the while concept of a fiber that you can

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster
> I seem to remember many years ago reading that the cultivars of flax that made the finest threads were deliberately destroyed during the French Revolution, along with any saved seeds. However, all may not be lost! Flax is a diploid plant with perfect flowers, an inbreeding system, and an annual

Re: [lace] Linen Thread

2016-10-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster
>> The size of >> the linen is size 50, 60, and 70. The brand is Campbell' s made in Ireland. >> What type of lace would you recommend for this linen I also acquired a few >> skeins of linen years ago 6 skeins size 60 thread W. J. Knox LTP LC on the >> label and 3 size 20 with the same maker.

[lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread Elise Waber-Hays
Hello,I have read with interest the discussion regarding linen threads. I know I have missed part of it since I don't subscribe to the digest, so please forgive me if I am repeating something that has already been said.  I seem to remember many years ago reading that the cultivars of flax that

[lace] Linen Thread

2016-10-17 Thread Jane
First of all, I just recently got some linen thread off Ebay. The size of the linen is size 50, 60, and 70. The brand is Campbell' s made in Ireland. What type of lace would you recommend for this linen I also acquired a few skeins of linen years ago 6 skeins size 60 thread W. J. Knox LTP LC

Re: [lace] Linen thread as it was before World War I

2016-10-17 Thread catherinebar...@btinternet.com
Sent from my iPad Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com > On 17 Oct 2016, at 16:23, Jeriames@AOL. > > Thank you Jeri for once again taking the time and trouble to post a lengthy > email full of interesting history about lace related facts. I'm sure that > many of us who

Re: [lace] Linen thread as it was before World War I

2016-10-17 Thread Jeriames
Original October 16 question: Hello All! May I ask what brand linen thread you are using & why? I'm a bit steamed to find big hunks of lint stuck in 90/2 linen thread & unsure of whether to pick it out & risk breaking the thread or cutting it out & adding a new bobbin. While I realize

[lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread devonthein
I have not seen slubs in old linen thread that made the very fine laces. In fact, I believe it is the extremely long staple of the linen that made it capable of being spun so thin. Jean suggests that it may be due to the hand processing of the flax that makes the difference, as opposed to

[lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread hottleco
Thank you Alice! When you mentioned Fresia linen thread, the lightbulb finally went on. When I was buying my thread in an assortment of sizes, my choices were between Fresia & the other one. The one I bought has a more matte finish & the explanation was that Fresia is mercerized. So I just

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread Clay Blackwell
I have seen many fine old Binche pieces in the German Lace Guild's museum, and the threads were extremely fine. Even a tiny slub would have affected the quality of the lace! In the old flax, not only were the fibers much finer, but they were also much longer, so that allowed fine threads

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread Clay Blackwell
My perspective is that there a variety of qualities of linen that give us multiple options when planning a project. Some threads are fairly smooth, and others have lots of slubs. The art of matching the thread to the design is part of the fun! Clay Sent from my iPad > On Oct 16, 2016, at

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread Jean Leader
On 17 Oct 2016, at 09:12, Kathleen Harris wrote: > They told me that the old varieties of flax, which were used to produce linen > thread fine enough to make, for instance, Binche lace, have been lost. > Today's flax varieties just do not have fine enough fibres. I have heard

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread Kathleen Harris
I have spun flax into linen thread, fine enough to make lace, but only just! I made a small owl with it (Gill Dye's design?). I have discussed linen thread with tutors from the Kantcentrum in Bruges. They told me that the old varieties of flax, which were used to produce linen thread fine

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-16 Thread lacel...@frontier.com
Not all brands of linen are the same.  I used Fresia brand linen in the tablecloth I finished this year.  It was quite smooth.  The few slubs were far apart.  I think the Fresia thread was made for lacemaking.  The linen that is full of slubs was probably made for weaving, and the slubs were

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-16 Thread Susan
Thank you Adele! I particularly appreciate your reference to linen clothing as there as some very fine linen clothes out there. Beautiful to wear & launder--& they last for years. Others are unsuitable for much of anything & they don't last long even on delicate cycle! So It seems that

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-16 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Susan: True story - in London the mid-1960s, linen manufacturers worked and worked to get the slubs (that’s what those big hunks of lint are called) out of the linen thread used to make fabric, because people wanted smooth linen for high-quality dressmaking. Then the 60s fashion revolution

[lace] Linen thread

2016-10-16 Thread hottleco
Hello All! May I ask what brand linen thread you are using & why? I'm a bit steamed to find big hunks of lint stuck in 90/2 linen thread & unsure of whether to pick it out & risk breaking the thread or cutting it out & adding a new bobbin. While I realize that linen was nicer in the "good

[lace] Knox's Gimp Lace Linen Thread

2014-08-01 Thread Jill Hawkins
Is anyone familiar with Knox's Gimp Lace Linen Thread, 2 cord, 60? A friend won a spool in an auction recently and is keen to know what thread this might compare to. I have looked in Brenda Paternoster's book and found some other sizes of this thread, but nothing that is 2 cord, 60. Thanks

Re: [lace] Knox's Gimp Lace Linen Thread

2014-08-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
, and it comes out as a fairly straight line so I would predict that size 60 will be around 38-40 w/cm Brenda On 1 Aug 2014, at 09:48, Jill Hawkins j...@myhawkins.co.uk wrote: Is anyone familiar with Knox's Gimp Lace Linen Thread, 2 cord, 60? A friend won a spool in an auction recently and is keen

Re: [lace] Knox's Gimp Lace Linen Thread

2014-08-01 Thread Jill Hawkins
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[lace] Linen thread and winter

2014-01-25 Thread Lyn Bailey
I have been working away on the edging for the altar cloth. 2 weeks ago I had made a total of 108 inches, only 26 inches to go. And then, when we were having all that very cold weather and the heat was on much more than usual, 3 threads broke in one week. Not cool. I remembered that

Re: [lace] Linen thread and winter

2014-01-25 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Lynn... Years ago, there was an extensive series of discussions about this issue. Our Polar Vortex has really affected the threads with which we work! You are right to add moisture to your threads when the humidity is so low in our heated homes. As I recall, the collective advice was to

Re: [lace] Linen thread and winter

2014-01-25 Thread Dmt11home
My first teacher advised taking a paper towel, wetting it, wringing it out and sort of arranging it in a three dimensional shape with lots of surfaces, under the cover cloth which is held up with pins. This creates sort of a vapor chamber that is not air tight and that does not have the

Re: [lace] Linen thread questions cross post

2011-09-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Sherry Knox was a leading manufacturer of lace thread until sometime mid 20th century, so if your thread is still in good condition and hasn't dried out and become week you can use it for bobbinlace. Size 20 measures 18 wraps/cm and between Perle 8 and Perle 12 in thickness. You need a

[lace] Linen thread questions cross post

2011-09-07 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
  There was a discussion I think on Linen thread. It got me thinking that I had some around here somewhere. Well the other evening I was looking for something else and lo and behold here was the linen thread that I had. I think it is old thread. My thread still had their labels on them. I have six

[lace] linen thread question

2011-09-07 Thread Lorelei Halley
Sherry The first thing I would do is pull out a length and try breaking it with your hands. Whether that is easy or hard to do will show you if the linen is in good enough condition to use. If it breaks as easily as 2 strands of stranded cotton, throw it out or use it for surface embroidery. It

Re: [lace] linen thread on ebay

2005-09-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
... It was a single ply. This is the one I was curious about! Clay -Original Message- From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 18, 2005 6:34 PM To: Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jenny Brandis [EMAIL PROTECTED], lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] linen thread on ebay

[lace] linen thread on ebay

2005-09-18 Thread Jenny Brandis
Hi there I have just found the following ebay seller who is selling 100% irish linen thread http://search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQsassZceol-deasQQhtZ-1 I will not be bidding because I cant see me using this much but perhaps one/some of you? Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia If you learn

RE: [lace] linen thread on ebay

2005-09-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
: Jenny Brandis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Date: 9/18/2005 7:13:13 PM Subject: [lace] linen thread on ebay Hi there I have just found the following ebay seller who is selling 100% irish linen thread http://search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQsassZceol-deasQQhtZ-1 I will not be bidding

Re: [lace] linen thread on ebay

2005-09-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster
?) know more about the properties of this thread? Clay Who doesn't plan to bid, btw... ; ) Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Jenny Brandis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Date: 9/18/2005 7:13:13 PM Subject: [lace] linen thread on ebay Hi there I have just found