[lace] Needle lace virtual workshop-front line report

2020-10-02 Thread Devon Thein
I have had a virtual workshop in bobbin lace, one on computer things
(Ground Forge) and am now taking one in needle lace. Of course all
workshops are a little different. Although I had received my modestly
priced gooseneck smartphone holder from Amazon and had mounted it on the
table next to my working chair I didn't end up connecting to zoom with my
Iphone, the second camera, because it didn't really seem necessary for this
particular class. In this class we received basic instructions and then
couched the outline thread around the pattern which took almost all of the
class. Although there was some discussion of the history of the lace and
some examples were shown, there was ample opportunity for small talk,
something that had been missing from the other classes which were so packed
with instruction that idle talk, one of the most enjoyable parts of a lace
class, was not possible. It was very pleasant hearing what others were
experiencing with the pandemic and shopping woes, and for those on the west
coast, fire woes.
There was one thing that I had not anticipated, though. I always wear an
unsightly magnifying visor when I work needle lace. So, I was working with
those on. But, then the teacher would show us something on the screen using
her model. I would have to whip off the magnivisor and  then because there
was no time to put on my glasses and I am very nearsighted, scrunch my face
up close to the Ipad on a stand in front of me to see the example. Then, I
would see a horrifying sight in the camera that showed me, namely a person
who has not had her hair cut in 7 months, squinting at very close range
into the camera. I was so close that only part of my face could be seen and
that very blurry. So, I looked like a blurry hairy asymmetrical monster. I
really hope no one took a screenshot.
Very enjoyable class, nonetheless.
Devon

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[lace] Needle lace in Chicago?

2019-03-07 Thread Elena Kanagy-Loux
Hello everyone,

I hope you are all having a great week!

Brooklyn Lace Guild recently had an email from a woman in Chicago who is
interested in needle lace and is looking for more contacts in her area. She
took an Aemelia Ars class in Italy a few years ago and has continued to
work from books.

I sent her information about the Illinois chapter of IOLI, Lacemakers and
Collectors Exchange, but I thought I'd reach out on Arachne as well! Let me
know if you fit the description of know any needle lacemakers in her area
and I will put you in touch with her.

All the Best,
Elena

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Re: [lace] Needle lace needles

2018-09-12 Thread Marianne Gallant
Personally I probably would use the John James Ball Point Bead 
Embroidery needle, they come in size 10 and 12, 12 being the thinnest. 
Just make sure you get the ball point ones, there are almost the same 
ones that are not ball point, and they are sharp, which is fine for 
couching through your pattern and cloth, but not what you want when 
doing the fillings or the buttonhole stitch around the outside. There 
are the ones I am talking about: 
http://www.njeffersonltd.com/john-james-ball-point-bead-embroidery-needles-size-10-6-count.html.
 
I have not used them for needle lace, but I use them almost exclusively 
for doing miniature petit point embroidery (micro point, on silk gauze 
that is 48-70 stitches per inch).

*Marianne*

Marianne Gallant
Vernon, BC Canada
m...@shaw.ca
http://threadsnminis.blogspot.ca, https://www.facebook.com/GallantCreation/

On 2018-09-12 4:07 p.m., H M Clarke wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a question for those of you who do, or know about, the finest needle 
> laces. What size needle do you use? I’m thinking about when you use really 
> fine thread (180 cotton, maybe).
>
> Thank you in advance, Helen (on the sunny west coast of mainland Canada)
>

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[lace] Needle lace needles

2018-09-12 Thread H M Clarke
Hi,

I have a question for those of you who do, or know about, the finest needle 
laces. What size needle do you use? I’m thinking about when you use really fine 
thread (180 cotton, maybe). 

Thank you in advance, Helen (on the sunny west coast of mainland Canada)

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[lace] Needle lace in V blog

2018-04-09 Thread Louise Bailey
Like other I am enjoying the discussions on needle lace.  Coincidently there
is an article about the Blythe House "decant" on the V blog which discusses
their ongoing work digitising & rehousing the lace collection and shows
amongst others two pieces of needle lace, one in green silk and one in human
hair.

http://www.vam.ac.uk/blog/conservation-blog/blythe-house-decant-updates-audit
s-and-rehousing

the needle lace images are near the bottom of the page.

Apparently all the museums that store items at Blythe House are moving out to
purpose built storage buildings in 2023.  The V to an Olympic Park site.

Louise

In very soggy Cambridge.

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Re: [lace] Needle Lace Revival

2018-03-31 Thread Catherine Barley
Subject : Re: [lace] Needle Lace Revival

Margaret Stephens, here in Australia, is very much an expert and teacher 
in needle lcae. her classes at both the Embroiders' Guild and the Lace 
guild are booked out. 


Thank you Lorelie for sending me the link so see Margaret Stephens work, which 
I have finally found time to look browse leisurely through this morning.  Her 
work is indeed very beautiful, colourful and certainly eye catching!  I love 
her choice of colours too and read all the wonderful comments from admirers and 
her own helpful hints.  However she did write on 30th March 2014 and I quote 

'Keep doing that white, Traditional work . . . . . . . . . . because I can't 
(and have no desire to do so)'

I have not criticised anyone for working coloured contemporary work but simply 
asked was there anyone out there who makes/teaches fine white traditional 
needlelace?  In answer to that question, I was told about Margaret Stephens.  
Thanks to Lorelie I have now seen some wonderful examples of her work.

Catherine Barley


Catherine Barley Needlelace
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RE: [lace] needle lace types

2018-03-29 Thread Lorelei Halley
Marianne
Needlelacetalk has a set of videos by Michael Dennis and links to some other
good online lessons for needle lace.
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/page/tutorials-1 
We also have a BEGINNERS group.
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/group/beginners 
Lorelei

Subject: [lace] needle lace types
All this talk about needle lace got me thinking I might want to get back
into doing some. I do have a couple of books, but I started wondering what
was new. So I went to the Vansciver website, and noticed that the only books
on needle lace available at the moment are Italian books, 

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[lace] needle lace types

2018-03-29 Thread Marianne Gallant
All this talk about needle lace got me thinking I might want to get back 
into doing some. I do have a couple of books, but I started wondering 
what was new. So I went to the Vansciver website, and noticed that the 
only books on needle lace available at the moment are Italian books, 
most of them about Aemilia Ars and a few about Veneziano lace. Since I 
have not seen either of these laces, nor can I see the books (I can only 
purchase lace materials online), it made me wonder what type of lace 
Aemilia Ars is. Is it made similar to the type of needlepoint lace that 
Nenia Lovesey and Catherine Barley have in their books? Like is the lace 
made separately and then sewn to fabric? I don't care much for the 
Reticella type lace where you cut a hole in linen fabric and then fill 
it with needle lace stitches.
I just wish I could figure out where I got the pattern from for the 
needle lace angel that I started eons ago. It looks like it will be a 3D 
type angel, though fairly small, and I have done about 1/4 inch of the 
dress/skirt, it has beads added near the hem, but I have no idea how to 
continue or what stitches should be used. And don't tell me to do my own 
thing, I don't know enough to do that.

*Marianne*

Marianne Gallant
Vernon, BC Canada
m...@shaw.ca
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Re: [lace] Needle lace revival

2018-03-29 Thread Catherine Barley
Interesting and whatever turns you on I guess!  'Beauty is in the eye of the 
beholder'

Let's hope the exhibition results in what you are hoping to achieve, by 
awakening the general public to lace in it's many forms and that there will be 
sufficient interest/stimulation to get at least some of them sufficiently 
interested to enrol on a class to learn for themselves.

Catherine

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

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>From : devonth...@gmail.co

Subject : [lace] Needle lace revival

If you watch a 17 minute interview with Maggie Hensel-Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsO5wICsojY conducted by Angharad Rixon,
proprietor of Textile Support and the genius behind The Doily Free Zone, you
will see that she credits a class with Margaret Stephens with setting her off
on her lace journey.

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[lace] Needle lace revival

2018-03-28 Thread DevonThein
If you watch a 17 minute interview with Maggie Hensel-Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsO5wICsojY conducted by Angharad Rixon,
proprietor of Textile Support and the genius behind The Doily Free Zone, you
will see that she credits a class with Margaret Stephens with setting her off
on her lace journey.
I am featuring a series of three pieces of Maggie’s depicting unexceptional
moments in the show Lace, not Lace, in New Jersey. These are based on the
style of historic punto in aria such as the Judith and Holofernes lace in the
Metropolitan Museum. Maggie is now making another series of works dealing with
issues of the status of women. She has begun to incorporate, very cautiously,
some color in the work. Her piece
“ Tripped up and strung up on a never ending stream of comments from strange
men” is probably best viewed on her Instagram account. But, it incorporates
little male figures that reference ones often found in Italian needle lace.

So, in fact, young artists are learning the skills from traditionalists who
preserve and teach them. In addition to that, although my sample is very
small, I think that the new needle lacers may start out with larger, irregular
stitches, impressionistically applied. But, as they develop, they tend to seek
out more sophisticated techniques, looking at Catherine’s work and others,
and to incorporate them, and also to improve their technique and regularize
the tension.

But, an interesting situation that I am encountering is that people who are
not in the lace world already are more readily attracted to large pieces, and
ones with irregular stitching because they can see what is happening in them.
When there are exquisite small pieces that use the techniques perfectly and in
a sophisticated way, members of the public tend to blank out and not even
think about how the piece is made. Thus it becomes less interesting.

It is sort of a situation where say, you are a person who has enjoyed seeing
huge Roman mosaics, and then you see very small miniature Byzantine mosaics.
You say, “Wow, this is like a huge beautiful mosaic, but someone had the
skill to make it minute”. Instead, in the lace world, you say about a large
piece made in cord, or rope,  “this is fascinating in the way the threads
move in and out in a complex fashion.” But when you see a small complex,
intricate piece where you can barely see the threads moving in an out in
complicated patterns,  you say, “this is like lace trim from the five and
dime”.

Challenges…In a way, the public needs to learn about the techniques used in
a simple way,  before they can appreciate their use in a more complex way.

Devon


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Re: [lace] Needle Lace Revival

2018-03-28 Thread Catherine Barley
I have looked at Penny Nickels work and agree it is very impressive and can 
recognise the influence of my Snow Queen panel, but for some reason my panel 
does not seem to come into the category of 'Contemporary Fibre Art' - I wonder 
why?  I know people are visiting my website by the number of hits it gets on a 
regular basis and clearly they learn something from the detailed progressive 
images that I have shown there, but my work seems to all be classified as 
'living in the past' recreating old fashioned traditional techniques.  Perhaps 
the skills that have taken me over forty years to perfect are the problem, and 
maybe if I were to incorporate some irregular tension in my work, it may be 
viewed as more 'avant- garde'.  Clearly we all learn from the old traditional 
techniques so it is essential that they continue to be practised, otherwise 
they will disappear into obscurity.

I wish you and all your exhibitors the greatest success with your exhibition.

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

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>From : devonth...@gmail.com
Subject : [lace] Needle Lace Revival



 In the US, Carolyn Wetzel is investing a tremendous amount of time, effort
and money to become a needle lace teacher with expertise in Aemelia Ars,
Alencon and Frisado de Valladolid. She is a real asset in perpetuating needle
lace.

I think it is imperative to give some recognition to, and to exhibit, youngish
needle lace artists. With no encouragement, they will stop doing needle lace
art and go on to do something that is better understood and appreciated.

My exhibit Lace, not Lace: Contemporary Fiber Art from Lacemaking Techniques
has several young(ish) needle lacemakers in it.
One is Penny Nickels. She has a blogspot called Donkeywolf
http://donkeywolf.blogspot.com/ where you can see two works that will be in
the show. 

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Re: [lace] Needle Lace Revival

2018-03-28 Thread Catherine Barley
Such good news Anna, where can I see some of her work?

Happy Lacemaking

Catherine

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

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Subject : Re: [lace] Needle Lace Revival

Margaret Stephens, here in Australia, is very much an expert and teacher 
in needle lcae. her classes at both the Embroiders' Guild and the Lace 
guild are booked out. She has even written 2 how to books one on 
Retecella and one on Amelia Ars. Both show the traditional and modern 
colo

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Re: RE: [lace] Needle Lace revival

2018-03-28 Thread Catherine Barley
I have her book and attended her class at the OIDFA Conference in Caen 2012.  
An excellent tutor!

Catherine Barley
UK

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

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Subject : RE: [lace] Needle Lace revival

  Also, don't forget Brigitte Delesques Dépalle, who wrote by far the best 
manual on needlelace and still teaches. She and I were students together at 
Alençon.

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Subject: Re: [lace] Needle Lace revival

Oops.
Sorry, Madame Laurie. Can’t wait to see your articles. Everyone save your 
lobster claws.
Needle lace lives!

Devon

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Re: [lace] Needle Lace Revival

2018-03-28 Thread Catherine Barley
Such refreshing news I'm now reading about tutors who teach Traditional 
needlelace!  It warms my heart, as I felt I had failed, having spent over 30 
years trying to pass on the legacy that Nenia Lovesey left to us all.  It would 
be a disaster if Traditional Needlelace disappeared into obscurity like so many 
other skills have done,  Modern technology is wonderful but children seem to be 
no longer taught them at school as there is no time apparently but they would 
rather spend their time sitting at computers, game boys, x boxes etc (whatever 
they are)!

Catherine Barley
UK

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

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Date : 27/03/2018 - 23:53 (GMTDT)
To : devonth...@gmail.com, lace@arachne.com
Subject : Re: [lace] Needle Lace Revival

Margaret Stephens, here in Australia, is very much an expert and teacher 
in needle lcae. her classes at both the Embroiders' Guild and the Lace 
guild are booked out. She has even written 2 how to books one on 
Retecella and one on Amelia Ars. Both show the traditional and modern 
colour.

Anna from a warm Sydney Autumn morning

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[lace] Needle Lace Revival

2018-03-27 Thread Janice Blair
Devon wrote


Carolyn had a full class at the Winter Lace Conference in Costa Mesa, CA in 
February and she is one of the teachers at the IOLI convention in San Antonio 
in July.  Her classes are listed on the IOLI website.  Please consider signing 
up for needlelace if there is space available. I have been disappointed in the 
past when a needlelace class is cancelled because it needed a few more 
students, and I signed up again so I hope the class is successful.  The 
advantage of needlelace is that transportation of equipment is easy, unlike 
flying with lace pillows these days. Poor eyesight is not a handicap these days 
as I have magnifier glasses that clip onto my regular glasses to help me to see 
what I am doing. Come and join the fun.
Janice

 Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 
jblace.com

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RE: [lace] Needle Lace revival

2018-03-27 Thread Laurie Waters
  Also, don't forget Brigitte Delesques Dépalle, who wrote by far the best 
manual on needlelace and still teaches. She and I were students together at 
Alençon.

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To: Laurie Waters <lswaters...@comcast.net>
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Needle Lace revival

Oops.
Sorry, Madame Laurie. Can’t wait to see your articles. Everyone save your 
lobster claws.
Needle lace lives!

Devon

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RE: [lace] Needle Lace revival

2018-03-27 Thread DevonThein
Oops.
Sorry, Madame Laurie. Can’t wait to see your articles. Everyone save our
lobster claws.
Needle lace lives!

Devon

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Re: [lace] Needle Lace revival

2018-03-27 Thread Devon Thein
Oops.
Sorry, Madame Laurie. Can’t wait to see your articles. Everyone save your 
lobster claws.
Needle lace lives!

Devon

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Re: [lace] Needle Lace Revival

2018-03-27 Thread Anna Binnie
Margaret Stephens, here in Australia, is very much an expert and teacher 
in needle lcae. her classes at both the Embroiders' Guild and the Lace 
guild are booked out. She has even written 2 how to books one on 
Retecella and one on Amelia Ars. Both show the traditional and modern 
colour.


Anna from a warm Sydney Autumn morning

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[lace] Needle Lace revival

2018-03-27 Thread Laurie Waters
OK Devon, you left my name off the list of traditional needlelace teachers…
is the 2012 Alençon class already forgotten? The one where we used all the
traditional equipment and threads – all the stuff I learned as a student in
Alençon?  And the subsequent Needlelace Practicum?  Unfortunately I had to
cancel the Belgian needlelace class last year, but we would have been
studying 18th c techniques.

I’m writing write my first article for the IOLI bulletin as the new
Needlelace Editor, and I’m going very hard at the traditional techniques.
The subject of the first article will be hand position. I’m taking no
quarter here, this will be a very rigorous series of articles.  I have so
much I want to say – the field of modern needlelace has forgotten so much of
what made this lace a viable commercial product, in its very finest form.
I’ve been studying the subject for well over 30 years, so don’t be surprised
at what you will read!

Laurie



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[lace] Needle Lace Revival

2018-03-27 Thread DevonThein
Catherine writes:  Is there no one out there who  makes beautiful fine white
needlelace and who can pass on these techniques for the benefit of future
generations?  I have done my level best over several decades, travelling many
thousands of miles both here in the UK and overseas to pass on my skills, but
all I hear is "I couldn't possibly see to do such fine work" but I see
beautiful fine white Honiton lace still being made, along with gorgeous
Binche, Bucks etc so why is it so difficult to find a tutor to teach
'Traditional Needlelace" I wonder?

 In the US, Carolyn Wetzel is investing a tremendous amount of time, effort
and money to become a needle lace teacher with expertise in Aemelia Ars,
Alencon and Frisado de Valladolid. She is a real asset in perpetuating needle
lace.

I think it is imperative to give some recognition to, and to exhibit, youngish
needle lace artists. With no encouragement, they will stop doing needle lace
art and go on to do something that is better understood and appreciated.

My exhibit Lace, not Lace: Contemporary Fiber Art from Lacemaking Techniques
has several young(ish) needle lacemakers in it.
One is Penny Nickels. She has a blogspot called Donkeywolf
http://donkeywolf.blogspot.com/ where you can see two works that will be in
the show. One is The Jersey Devil, the other is Just Girly Things. She
employed some gros point techniques in Just Girly Things. If you continue to
scroll down, and go to another page with older posts you will see The
Endurance, about the Shackleton Expedition. I love the way that she varies the
stitch densities in the snow. While Catherine does not know about Penny, Penny
knows about Catherine because we have discussed Catherine’s snow oriented
work. Penny is not afraid to spend a lot of time working on her art. She is
largely self-taught, which is amazing.

Maggie Hensel-Brown will also be shown. She is an Australian who works in
Punto in Aria technique.

Also, E.J. Parkes, who has made a life size arm in very fine needle lace
stitches, showing the musculature and bones, etc.

I think I see the signs of an upcoming lace revival.

Devon


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[lace] Needle lace book

2016-06-29 Thread Ann-Marie Andersson
I have an antique needle lace book that needs a new home. Please email me
privately if you are interested and I will send photos and details.

Kind regards
Ann-Marie Andersson
Sweden

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Re: [lace] Needle lace

2015-09-15 Thread J-D Hammett
Hi fellow Arachnids,


Thank you very much Sue for the eye candy, even if the feet would not 
co-operate;-) Those shoes are beautiful as is the other work on that site.


Happy lace making,


Joepie in East Sussex, UK, where it is once again raining.









From: Sue Hottle
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎15‎ ‎September‎ ‎2015 ‎20‎:‎03






Hello All!  Visit Italian-needlework.blogspot.com for a great (but too short!) 
article on needlelace shoes by Ferragamo.  Oh my, I would wear them in a 
heartbeat if they were my size!  How about you?  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, 
PA, USA

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[lace] Needle lace

2015-09-15 Thread Susan
Hello All!  Visit Italian-needlework.blogspot.com for a great (but too short!) 
article on needlelace shoes by Ferragamo.  Oh my, I would wear them in a 
heartbeat if they were my size!  How about you?  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, 
PA, USA

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[lace] needle lace fillings

2015-07-03 Thread hottleco
Take a quick gander at www.needlenthread.com today.  Mary Corbet posted a 
whitework piece with some very lovely needle lace.  Susan Hottle

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[lace] needle lace resources

2015-07-03 Thread hottleco
Thanks Rita, indeed Beeton is on gutenberg  available to all.  Lorelei, you 
have hit the nail on the head.  No wonder I wasn't finding much other than tape 
lace when I initially searched for needle lace online!  Point de gaz(e) 
wouldn't have been made by amateurs.  Ironically, that fact brought the most 
enlightenment at our lace demonstration.  By showing them the basic beginner 
pattern that I was working, then flipping to the exquisite example in the Lace 
app, patrons could get a handle on the skills needed to produce such an 
item--even though some stitches were identical.  So thanks for pointing me in 
the right direction  Santa for bringing me an iPad!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, 
Erie, PA USA

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Re: [lace] Needle lace resources? Beeton

2015-06-30 Thread Rita Bartholomew
For an online copy of Beeton's Book of Needlework check
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/15147

Rita Bartholomew
Massachusetts, USA

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Barbara Ballantyne 
bjballant...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 The material in Beeton's book of Needlework published in 1870 appeared
 in a series of books by Madame Goubaud issued between 1866 and 1871.  I
 found this when I checked them in the British Library which holds 14 of
 Madame Goubaud's books.   Mrs Beeton died in 1865.

 'Samuel Beeton told us in the preface to Beeton's Book of Needlework
 that the 'best attainable workers' had carried out his late wife's
 wishes to have a needlework book along the same lines as her classic one
 on household management .  He also wrote that point lace had recently
 become popular and the patterns in the book would help ladies to
 reproduce antique laces.

 Madame Goubaud may have been the editor rather than the author of the
 wide range of needlework reprinted in the Beeton's book.  She already
 had a large workload as she and her husband produced the prestigious
 French fashion magazine /Le Moniteur de la Mode/ in Paris.  The Beetons
 and Goubauds were friends and business associates.'

   These two paragraphs are quoted from my book /Mademoiselle Riego and
 Irish crochet lace/, p. 18.

 Madame Goubaud's point lace book can be downloaded from
 www.archive.org.  It came up close to the top of the list when I typed
 Madame Goubaud point lace into google.

 Barbara Ballantyne
 in sunny Sydney, Australia

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[lace] Needle lace resources

2015-06-29 Thread Susan
Thank you Barbara for adding Madame Goubaud to my reading list.  Surely I will 
be better prepared for the next demo at a historical home, of which there are 
many in Western Pennsylvania  Northeastern Ohio!  We had a good turnout 
yesterday in Niles, OH in spite of the intermittent downpours.  The Ward Thomas 
house is decorated in period style with many original furnishings  memorabilia 
from the two families.  This included a gown worn by one of the occupants when 
she attended Alice Lee Roosevelt's White House wedding to Mr. Longworth.  It 
was ivory  featured princess lace  medallions of metallic embroidery.  Our 
group was seated in the library where W. Aubrey Thomas, a member of Congress, 
met with his constituents in the early 1900's.  In addition to needle lace, we 
demonstrated tatting, Irish crochet, Bedfordshire lace  lucet cording.  Some 
patrons even recognized what we were making  would like to learn!  We hope to 
see some of them at our program sponsored by the lib!
 rary next month.  Again, thanks to all to lent a hand on the history side!  
Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA 

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RE: [lace] Needle lace resources?

2015-06-28 Thread Jay Ekers
Beeton's Book of Needlework was originally published in Great Britain in
1870 by Ward, Lock and Tyler.  A facsimile edition was first published in
USA in 1986 by Exeter Books.

It has a chapter on Point lace - machine made braids tacked to a pattern and
the design completed with needle lace fillings (variations on button-hole
stitch mostly). There are a few patterns - is this what you are looking for?

Jay in Sydney, Australia

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Hello All!  I'm looking for an online resource for needle lace circa 1860.
When I checked the Arizona Digital Archives, the closest I found was Therese
de Dillmont 1900  1910.  There doesn't seem to be a search function on the
Arizona site so while I tried to read thru all the descriptions, I may have
missed some.  Google wasn't much help either.  Should I look elsewhere?  I'm
trying to get a sense of what needle lace motifs were in vogue in that
timeframe.  Any suggestions?  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie,
PA USA 


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Re: [lace] Needle lace resources? Beeton

2015-06-28 Thread Jeriames
1.  Has anyone found the Beeton book on the Arizona site?   Please share 
particulars.  I just took a quick look alphabetically by book  author, and did 
not find it.  The original is not in my library, or it  would have been 
scanned.  The Lulu reprint I have is  dated 2007.  By law, I do not believe 
this qualifies to be  scanned.
 
2.  This is a classic reference book.  Does anyone have it,  preferably in 
the U.S., and are you willing to let it be  scanned?  
 
Disclosure:  Some of my 19th C. books required spine repairs  after they 
were scanned as part of getting the Arizona site up and running,  which can be 
a hazard of this process.  A small price to pay to bring lace  information 
to many lace people around the globe at no cost to them.   It serves little 
purpose to keep such books only to one owner.  So  much of our needlework 
history has been destroyed or is beyond reach!
 
The lace section of the Arizona site was initiated here in Maine, and it  
would be very nice to have the Beeton book represented.  For your  privacy, 
please reply directly to me on this matter.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

 
 
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jek...@bigpond.net.au writes:

Beeton's  Book of Needlework was originally published in Great Britain in
1870 by  Ward, Lock and Tyler.  A facsimile edition was first published in
USA  in 1986 by Exeter Books.

It has a chapter on Point lace - machine made  braids tacked to a pattern 
and
the design completed with needle lace  fillings (variations on button-hole
stitch mostly). There are a few  patterns - is this what you are looking 
for?

Jay in Sydney,  Australia

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Subject: [lace] Needle lace  resources?

I'm looking for an online resource for needle lace circa  1860.
When I checked the Arizona Digital Archives, the closest I found was  
Therese
de Dillmont 1900  1910.  There doesn't seem to be a  search function on the
Arizona site so while I tried to read thru all the  descriptions, I may have
missed some.  Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA  

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Re: [lace] Needle lace resources? Beeton

2015-06-28 Thread Barbara Ballantyne
The material in Beeton's book of Needlework published in 1870 appeared 
in a series of books by Madame Goubaud issued between 1866 and 1871.  I 
found this when I checked them in the British Library which holds 14 of 
Madame Goubaud's books.   Mrs Beeton died in 1865.

'Samuel Beeton told us in the preface to Beeton's Book of Needlework 
that the 'best attainable workers' had carried out his late wife's 
wishes to have a needlework book along the same lines as her classic one 
on household management .  He also wrote that point lace had recently 
become popular and the patterns in the book would help ladies to 
reproduce antique laces.

Madame Goubaud may have been the editor rather than the author of the 
wide range of needlework reprinted in the Beeton's book.  She already 
had a large workload as she and her husband produced the prestigious 
French fashion magazine /Le Moniteur de la Mode/ in Paris.  The Beetons 
and Goubauds were friends and business associates.'

  These two paragraphs are quoted from my book /Mademoiselle Riego and 
Irish crochet lace/, p. 18.

Madame Goubaud's point lace book can be downloaded from 
www.archive.org.  It came up close to the top of the list when I typed 
Madame Goubaud point lace into google.

Barbara Ballantyne
in sunny Sydney, Australia

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[lace] Needle lace resources

2015-06-28 Thread Susan
Thank you Jay--another resource to track down!  In this particular instance, 
however, I was hunting for needle lace made with a laid cordonnet--although 
this was not clear from my question!  I will endeavor to be more specific in 
the future.  My initial search returned several resources for tape based lace 
with needle lace fillings so now I will add Beeton to the list.  Thank you for 
helping to round out the picture!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle 


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[lace] Needle lace resources

2015-06-26 Thread Susan
Thank you Devon  Lorelei!  I'm on digest so just now received your excellent 
suggestions  links.  Devon, my lace guild is demonstrating various techniques 
on Sunday at a Victorian home owned by a historical society.  In an effort to 
be relevant to my surroundings, I thought it would be helpful to know what type 
of needle lace would have been worn when the house was new in 1862.  I will 
take modern samples but now I can use my Lace app ( iPad if there is wifi 
available) to illustrate this beautiful technique.  Sorry to say, my grasp of 
lace history is weak so when my usual searches didn't return enough info, I 
asked for help.  Lorelei, all I can say is yowza!  The photos posted on Ning 
are beyond delicious  your analysis of point de gaze stitches  their uses is 
excellent.  Plenty to digest before 1pm on Sunday!  Thanks for reminding me 
that one of my favorite pieces of lace is the point de gaze fan in the Koon 
collection.  BTW--I wanted to thank you for posting your tape!
  lace lesson.  There are loads of individual diagrams for specific points in 
the pattern.  Thorough  oh so helpful!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA

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[lace] needle lace resources

2015-06-25 Thread Lorelei Halley
Susan
The dominant form of needle lace in 1860 would have been point de gaze. So if
you are looking for motifs, look there. A google search will turn up quite a
lot. Also some collections:
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/point-de-gaze-antique

http://lynxlace.com/StitchesofPointdeGaze.html

On this last one, look for the book by Pat Ernshaw. It is about how to make
the various laces, with stitch diagrams. But she gives the historical context
of each style of needle lace. That will point you in the right direction.

Lorelei Halley

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[lace] Needle lace resources

2015-06-25 Thread Susan
Thank you Bev  Gina, I was able to find a few more items.   Based on the 
photos  accompanying instructions, it seems like the needle lace that I am 
referring to--with laid cordonnet etc--was overshadowed by tape based lace 
during the mid 1800's.  I was surprised  delighted to find some great photos 
of Honiton tape!  Needless to say, one could get lost in all the books  
articles on the Arizona Digital  Antique Pattern sites.  Sincerely, Susan 
Hottle, Erie, PA USA



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[lace] Needle lace resources?

2015-06-25 Thread Susan
Hello All!  I'm looking for an online resource for needle lace circa 1860.  
When I checked the Arizona Digital Archives, the closest I found was Therese de 
Dillmont 1900  1910.  There doesn't seem to be a search function on the 
Arizona site so while I tried to read thru all the descriptions, I may have 
missed some.  Google wasn't much help either.  Should I look elsewhere?  I'm 
trying to get a sense of what needle lace motifs were in vogue in that 
timeframe.  Any suggestions?  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA 
USA 


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Re: [lace] Needle lace resources?

2015-06-25 Thread Bev Walker
Hi Susan and everyone
There is a search box for the digital archives site, look on the left-hand
frame towards the bottom on the home page. It has a Google logo but it is
for the site. You can also link to search all of google from there.
Maybe the volume by good ol' Mrs. Bury Palliser has something about
needlelace?
Try searches for needle-made lace, point lace, or any other term you know
for such laces in your time-frame. Perhaps 'point+lace+1860+dress' might
work for what you want.
HTH

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 Hello All!  I'm looking for an online resource for needle lace circa
 1860.  When I checked the Arizona Digital Archives, the closest I found was
 Therese de Dillmont 1900  1910.  There doesn't seem to be a search
 function on the Arizona site so while I tried to read thru all the
 descriptions,


-- 
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Re: [lace] Needle lace resources?

2015-06-25 Thread Dmt11home
I would check Patricia Wardle's Victorian Lace, and Santina Levey in that  
era. Also, look for motifs on the huge triangular shawls that were made to 
fit  over the hoop skirts. Ribbon designs were very popular as were oval 
motifs and  ferns. What is the purpose of your inquiry?
Devon

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[lace] Needle Lace Exhibition Opportunity

2013-11-23 Thread Jeriames
The Embroiderers' Guild of America is staging an international exhibition  
of contemporary embroidery that features COLOR as its main theme.   This is 
open to members of:
 
EGA
American Needlepoint Guild
Embroiderers Association of Canada
Embroiderers' Guild UK
Association of New Zealand Embroiderers' Guilds
Australia Embroiderers' Guilds
Cape Embroiderers' Guild of South Africa
 
Needle Lace is taught and accepted in these embroidery  groups, because it 
is made with a threaded needle and uses embroidery  stitches.
 
It occurs to me that it would be wonderful to have Needle Laces  
well-represented.
 
For more information, go to _www.egausa.org_ (http://www.egausa.org)  
 
On Home Page, step down Right column and select For  Artists.
 
Entries are due on or before April 15, 2014.  If you decide to  
participate, please contact me.   Otherwise, I will not know this type  of 
opportunity 
is of interest to Arachne members.  
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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Re: [lace] Needle lace pattern done

2013-08-01 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Peg,

I like your idea of making the type of lace shown in the painting next to 
the original painting. A real labour of love for lace.


The parchment they would have used was made from animal skin (usually goat 
or sheep) and was very expensive.


Happy lace making.

Joepie, East Sussex, UK

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Subject: [lace] Needle lace pattern done

A few months ago I posted a link to a picture I found at the Cleveland 
Museum
of Art that had incredible lace detail.  The picture is Portrait of a Woman 
by
Cornelis Janssen van Ceulen.  (Google it and find the Wikimedia 
page...you'll

be able to zoom in on the picture.)  ..

.I had been thinking of wearing a costume, and
having everything authentic.  I read they used parchment as the base.  Any
ideas where I can find some heavy enough to use for this purpose?  All I've
been able to find is either the kind you cook with, or parchment paper for
calligraphy.

I'm enjoying this creative streak very much!

Peg

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[lace] Needle lace pattern done

2013-07-31 Thread Witchy Woman
A few months ago I posted a link to a picture I found at the Cleveland Museum
of Art that had incredible lace detail.  The picture is Portrait of a Woman by
Cornelis Janssen van Ceulen.  (Google it and find the Wikimedia page...you'll
be able to zoom in on the picture.)  Thanks to the help of people on this list
we figured out that the lace was probably Punto in Aria.
 
I thought it would
be nice to sit in the Museum, near her picture, and be able to make the same
lace that she's wearing.  So this past week, armed with print outs of the lace
in various enlargements, I sat down with my compass, protractor, and graph
paper and came up with a pattern for the two motifs in the center section of
the collar.  I'm working on the pattern for the edging now.
 
The next step is
to figure out how to set up the foundation threads...very steep learning curve
here.  I'm sure I'll be asking questions when the time comeshere and on
the Needlelace Ning site.
 
I had been thinking of wearing a costume, and
having everything authentic.  I read they used parchment as the base.  Any
ideas where I can find some heavy enough to use for this purpose?  All I've
been able to find is either the kind you cook with, or parchment paper for
calligraphy.
 
I'm enjoying this creative streak very much!
 
Peg
in Fairview
Park OH...were it's a pleasantly cool summer evening...and night
fell...thud...

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Re: [lace] Needle lace beginner questions

2013-03-24 Thread Sue Harvey
Although I don't do a lot of needle lace I made a container for mine with a box 
that Badminton shuttlecocks come in from the sports shop. I cut it so it was 9 
long, Padded it slightly  and covered it with cotton cover, you need only tuck 
the ends inside as the cases come with metal ends that snap in so you can pop 
all the lace, threads etc into either end and snap shut then all is kept clean 
and tidy.  I use thin black elastic over both ends to hold the work while in 
progress. 

Sue M.Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] Needle lace beginner questions

2013-03-22 Thread Karen M. Zammit Manduca
Hi Deborah,
It is better to couch the outline before pinning the work onto the pillow
Karen in Malta


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 . mounting a needle lace project onto the stitching pillow. Do you
 couch the outline threads before mounting the project onto the pillow?



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[lace] Needle Lace links with images.

2013-03-22 Thread Robin D
Hello

Here is a link to a blog with an nice needle lace tutorial
http://merlettoadago.blogspot.com/2012/05/tutorial-2-reticella-bookmark-merletto.html-
I believe this is a fellow spider as it's a tutorial of the bookmark I
got last year*.  FYI it's in Italian, but Google does an okay job of
translating.   You'll notice that she works over her finger.  A pillow will
do the same thing.  I have a bolster and a short thick dowel that I use.  I
put the dowel on the pillow with a bit of fabric and then pin the pattern
to that. Here's a link to a good pic on another needle lace blog I follow
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mifZ2Qti8vE/S_Q5z6bIbkI/ATc/FRKyC8UR0G8/s1600/Venetian+Lace+Pillow.jpg

* side story about my bookmark:  I was looking at things on Pinterest and
found a picture of it.  I know I didn't put it there so I was a little
freaked out.  I followed the link and found her blog.  And then found out
that the lace wasn't stitched down on all side so it'll hook on the corner
of the book.  Did not know that; I just put it safely between pages in an
art book.  small world *smiles*

Try various ways and see what works for you.
Happy lace making!
Robin

-- 
Never, ever, let anyone tell you what you can and can't do. Prove the
cynics wrong. Pity them for they have no imagination.
The sky's the limit. *Your* sky. *Your *limit.   Now, let's dance.  *~Tom
Hiddleston*

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[lace] Needle lace beginner questions

2013-03-22 Thread Janice Blair
Hi Debora,

I work my needlelace on a pad of fabric folded four times into a smaller 
square, 
bigger than my pattern.  I draw my pattern in reverse on a piece of think 
plastic, then I tack the pattern down to the fabric through all the fabric 
folds.  I draw the pattern in reverse so that the ink does not come off on the 
thread. Then I do the couching as Jane described.  I tend to work without the 
pillow but when I use the pillow, I pin the pad down to the pillow but use a 
piece of dowel under it so that I can raise the work off the pillow slightly 
for 
ease of sewing.

When I am done, I cut the couching threads between or on the back of the pad. 
 Wash the fabric and then I can reuse it with one of the other sides up so it 
is 
like a new pad.  I use upholstery t-pins to hold it to the pad.

Janice


On 3/21/2013 7:56 AM, Debora Lustgarten wrote:
 Hello Arachnes,
 Although the conversation regarding our commemorative plans is 
 interesting, I'd like some help on the steps and how-to regarding 
 mounting a needle lace project onto the stitching pillow. Do you couch 
 the outline threads before mounting the project onto the pillow? How 
 do you mount the project so it doesn't come off when you pull the needle?
 Many thanks in advance,
 Debora Lustgarten
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
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[lace] Needle lace beginner questions

2013-03-21 Thread Debora Lustgarten

Hello Arachnes,
Although the conversation regarding our commemorative plans is 
interesting, I'd like some help on the steps and how-to regarding 
mounting a needle lace project onto the stitching pillow. Do you 
couch the outline threads before mounting the project onto the 
pillow? How do you mount the project so it doesn't come off when you 
pull the needle?

Many thanks in advance,
Debora Lustgarten
In Toronto, with too many projects on the go at the same time, it seems!

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Re: [lace] Needle lace beginner questions

2013-03-21 Thread Bronwen of Hindscroft
I never use a pillow to do needle lace.  But then, I'm one of those people
who hate using a hoop to do embroidery, too.

My steps are:  draft the pattern (however one does it, whether printing it
off the computer or doing it by hand), put transparent sheeting across the
whole page (so the ink or carbon doesn't rub off on the threads), couch
down the outside edge, then start filling in couching structural lines as
necessary.

The transparent sheeting I use comes in rolls that look like drawer liners
and can be found at many craft stores in the USA (I don't know about
elsewhere).  I've also found, for me, that the thicker paper used for craft
projects give me enough support, with the plastic on top.  I know people
who put a pad of material under the pattern paper.

HTH,
Bronwen
in cloudy Colorado

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Debora Lustgarten drac...@primus.cawrote:

 Hello Arachnes,
 Although the conversation regarding our commemorative plans is
 interesting, I'd like some help on the steps and how-to regarding mounting
 a needle lace project onto the stitching pillow. Do you couch the outline
 threads before mounting the project onto the pillow? How do you mount the
 project so it doesn't come off when you pull the needle?
 Many thanks in advance,
 Debora Lustgarten
 In Toronto, with too many projects on the go at the same time, it seems!

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[lace] Needle lace beginner questions

2013-03-21 Thread Jane Partridge
Traditionally you would start off with a piece of fabric (eg calico) 
folded into three, a little larger than your design. On top of this, 
your design drawn on paper, and on top of that a sheet of architect's 
linen, all tacked together around the edge. Then the architects stopped 
using their linen (this is pale blue after being coated with a clay like 
substance which meant their drawings were safe even on wet days!) and 
started using laptop computers, so these days a lot of people use 
coloured sticky backed plastic. The colour provides a contrast between 
the paper and the thread, making it easier to work.


You then lay your cordonnet - the foundation which is two parallel 
threads (start with a long length folded in half) held firmly along the 
outline of your design by tiny couching stitches. The couching stitches 
are the only ones that go through the fabric pad, all other stitching is 
worked on the surface. We were taught to do all of the outline, 
including any inside the basic shape, in one go, where necessary taking 
the inner of the threads along a line, under and over the threads on the 
other side, or supporting if it doesn't meet another thread yet, and 
bringing it back along the same path to form the double thread then 
couching it down and continuing with the main outline. When you get back 
to the starting loop, you take one thread through the loop and fold it 
back on itself, while threading the other through the first few couching 
stitches so that your cordonnet  is a continuous, strong foundation for 
your work. (Hope that makes sense!).


It is at this stage, once the couching is finished, that I decide 
whether I'm going to work on a pillow or not - dependent on the size of 
the piece. If so, I put a berry pin in each corner of the calico so that 
it goes straight down into the pillow. Occasionally you need to insert a 
couronne stick or pencil under the calico along the stitching line - eg 
when you are working the cordonette (final outline of closely worked 
buttonhole stitches) as this makes it easier to work, so the pins into 
the pillow are moved to allow a little slack.


I often work both with and without the pillow to support - it is the 
spacing and firmness of the couching threads that are important to the 
tension of the work, not the method of support.


The fold of fabric has a purpose - when you have finished, and are 
cutting the couching stitches, it is easier and safer to cut them 
between the layers of fabric than risk your scissors cutting the lace.


Some laces, like Branscombe, and Carrickmacross, were worked on a pad of 
folded brown or paper with the pattern drawn on the underside of a sheet 
of tracing/butter paper - thus protecting the work from the ink.


In message 
CADiu08RKLO_gXQKRF5V=HcAe8n7=OUUbVgU=5BVvq4on3=3...@mail.gmail.com, 
Bronwen of Hindscroft welshw...@gmail.com writes

My steps are:  draft the pattern
put transparent sheeting across the
whole page
then start filling in couching structural lines as
necessary.

.  I've also found, for me, that the thicker paper used for craft
projects give me enough support, with the plastic on top.  I know people
who put a pad of material under the pattern paper.



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Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] Needle lace beginner questions

2013-03-21 Thread L.Snyder

On 3/21/2013 7:56 AM, Debora Lustgarten wrote:

Hello Arachnes,
Although the conversation regarding our commemorative plans is 
interesting, I'd like some help on the steps and how-to regarding 
mounting a needle lace project onto the stitching pillow. Do you couch 
the outline threads before mounting the project onto the pillow? How 
do you mount the project so it doesn't come off when you pull the needle?

Many thanks in advance,
Debora Lustgarten

HI Deborah;
Sew your pattern to the fabric pad, and then pin the whole works to a 
pillw. You can take it off or move it around as needed while you work. 
Or even take it off the pillow to work in your hand for a bit and then 
pin it back on the pillow to continue.

Lauren in Snohomish WA.

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Re: [lace] needle lace

2012-01-07 Thread Jennifer Audsley
Hi Lauren,

I have spent a couple of days re-organising all my sewing, crocheting and
lace-making stuff (very therapeutic and good fun too!). In the process I
found my wire needle lace piece. I've uploaded the wire reticella photo on
Lorelei's Ning needle lace site: http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo

The design is one of Liz Ligeti's, I will get back to working on it and
post another pic with - hopefully - more progress. And a close up so you
get a better idea of how it's coming together.

Jen in Melbourne, Australia.

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Re: [lace] needle lace

2012-01-07 Thread L.Snyder

HI Jen!
 The picture is wonderful! I will have to compare, but I think the wire 
I am using is about the same size you used. Your stitches are a lot 
finer that mine are right now. I'll have the push mine together, make 
them tighter and smaller. I love the look! Thanks for posting the picture.

Needlelace in wire is possible!
Lauren


On 1/7/2012 3:13 PM, Jennifer Audsley wrote:

Hi Lauren,

I have spent a couple of days re-organising all my sewing, crocheting 
and lace-making stuff (very therapeutic and good fun too!). In the 
process I found my wire needle lace piece. I've uploaded the wire 
reticella photo on Lorelei's Ning needle lace site: 
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo


The design is one of Liz Ligeti's, I will get back to working on it 
and post another pic with - hopefully - more progress. And a close up 
so you get a better idea of how it's coming together.


Jen in Melbourne, Australia.


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Re: [lace] needle lace jewelry

2011-12-30 Thread Sue
I never knew I liked needlace before today, some truly spectacular and very 
pretty pieces.  I keep gravitating to the butterflies, the dragonfly and the 
flowers, that fabulous 3D effect just had me hooked.  I guess I might need 
to hunt out some beginner stuff and give it a try.
But not today, I am finishing off one small piece of lace and also can go 
back to trying to work a quilted advent calendar (so its ready for next 
year, not late for this, grin. )   I just started and was struggling with 
vision, but that is improving now we found a loose screw on my glasses and 
they are now sitting straight again:-).

Sue T Dorset UK


Lauren
I can't recall seeing any wire needle lace (wire bobbin lace is fairly
common).  But metallic looking threads could certainly be used.  There are 
a

few examples among the NEEDLELACETALK photos.
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo
Once on that page, do a search on earrings and another on necklace.
Lorelei


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Re: [lace] needle lace

2011-12-30 Thread Jennifer Audsley
Hi, I attempted some wire needlelace a couple of years ago. It's very
challenging, almost impossible to back track  redo mistakes as the wire
has memory  retains kinks etc. I didn't finish the piece. Fun though, do
have a try. Can't remember the gauge of wire I used, it was very fine
copper wire. I'm on holidays, but when I get home will try  find it  post
a pic.

Jen (usually in Melbourne, currently in Sydney), Australia.

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Re: [lace] needle lace

2011-12-29 Thread Catherine Barley

Hi Lauren

I have no experience of working needlelace in wire but gather it can be done 
and I would be interested to know how you get on with it - assuming you're 
going to give it a try!


Catherine Barley
UK

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HI Everyone;
A needle lace project has been rattling around in my head for a while now, 
but I'm seeing it in wire. do any of you have experience with needle made 
lace in wire?

Lauren in wet and windy Snohomish WA

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[lace] needle lace

2011-12-29 Thread L.Snyder

HI Everyone;
A needle lace project has been rattling around in my head for a while 
now, but I'm seeing it in wire. do any of you have experience with 
needle made lace in wire?

Lauren in wet and windy Snohomish WA

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[lace] needle lace jewelry

2011-12-29 Thread Lorelei Halley
Lauren
I can't recall seeing any wire needle lace (wire bobbin lace is fairly
common).  But metallic looking threads could certainly be used.  There are a
few examples among the NEEDLELACETALK photos.
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo
Once on that page, do a search on earrings and another on necklace.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] needle lace jewelry

2011-12-29 Thread Adele Shaak
 I can't recall seeing any wire needle lace (wire bobbin lace is fairly
 common).  But metallic looking threads could certainly be used.  

Hi Everybody:

Lenka Suchanek has been doing small needle lace pendants in wire for the past 
year or two, though I don't think they're on her website. The wire does need to 
be very flexible - she uses fine silver wire that she says works very well. She 
combines the wire with stone beads and some other silver findings for 
jewelry-making. 

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] Needle lace - architects' linen substitute

2011-01-05 Thread Sue Babbs
Thank you everyone for your very helpful answers to my question. Mostly 
answers were in favour of sticky-backed plastic, with just one using a 
pliable plastic from one of the USA craft stores. Thank you so much for such 
quick responses. I have endless rolls of sticky-backed plastic so can teach 
a lot of groups before using it up.


Sue

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[lace] Needle lace - architects' linen substitute

2011-01-04 Thread Sue Babbs
HI everyone
I was taught to make needle lace using architects' linen on which to draw the
pattern. I understand that this is now in scarce supple. I have enough for my
own personal needs at present, but there is the chance that I will be asked to
teach a class on beginning needle lace at a fibre arts guild. I don't have
enough architects' linen to spare for pupils. So I was wondering what you all
use, and if there is a good substitute?
Sue

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[lace] Needle lace - architects' linen substitute

2011-01-04 Thread Janice Blair
Hi Sue,
I use clear plastic that I buy in the upholstery section at JoAnne Fabrics.  I 
trace the pattern onto the plastic with a permanent marker and then tack the 
piece of plastic onto double folded fabric.  I use a reverse of the pattern to 
trace from so that when the marker side it placed onto the fabric, the pattern 
is the correct way round.  There are several thicknesses to choose from.  I use 
one that is very pliable but thick enough not to allow the needle to 
accidentally pierce it.  I think the plastic is about 54 inches wide so a 
little 
goes a long way.

My first needlelace class used this method but with folded felt underneath it. 
 It worked okay but bits of the felt fuzz would catch on the thread and get 
into 
the work.

Janice

HI everyone
I was taught to make needle lace using architects' linen on which to draw the
pattern. I understand that this is now in scarce supple. I have enough for my
own personal needs at present, but there is the chance that I will be asked to
teach a class on beginning needle lace at a fibre arts guild. I don't have
enough architects' linen to spare for pupils. So I was wondering what you all
use, and if there is a good substitute?
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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Re: [lace] Needle lace - architects' linen substitute

2011-01-04 Thread L.Snyder
I have used paper covered with the plastic film you put over prickings. 
Sew the whole things to your fabric pad. I like my patern to be light 
and bendable so I can roll it up in my hand.

Lauren

On 04/01/2011 3:54 PM, Janice Blair wrote:

Hi Sue,
I use clear plastic that I buy in the upholstery section at JoAnne Fabrics.  I
trace the pattern onto the plastic with a permanent marker and then tack the
piece of plastic onto double folded fabric.  I use a reverse of the pattern to
trace from so that when the marker side it placed onto the fabric, the pattern
is the correct way round.  There are several thicknesses to choose from.  I use
one that is very pliable but thick enough not to allow the needle to
accidentally pierce it.  I think the plastic is about 54 inches wide so a little
goes a long way.

My first needlelace class used this method but with folded felt underneath it.
  It worked okay but bits of the felt fuzz would catch on the thread and get 
into
the work.

Janice

HI everyone
I was taught to make needle lace using architects' linen on which to draw the
pattern. I understand that this is now in scarce supple. I have enough for my
own personal needs at present, but there is the chance that I will be asked to
teach a class on beginning needle lace at a fibre arts guild. I don't have
enough architects' linen to spare for pupils. So I was wondering what you all
use, and if there is a good substitute?
  Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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Re: [lace] Needle lace - architects' linen substitute

2011-01-04 Thread lacelady
I took a needlelace class a couple years ago.  As I remember it, we made a 
stack of two layers of cotton fabric, topped with a cloth that had the pattern 
traced on it, and that was topped with a piece of thin soft clear plastic.  The 
heavy outline threads could be easily basted through the sandwich with a 
pointed needle yet the plastic top layer made a smooth barrier for the 
non-pointed needle to slide across.  Thus, your architects' linen was replaced 
with ordinary cotton fabric and plastic.

Thinking back, it's possible we had only one layer of fabric under the pattern. 
 It think it depends on the sturdiness of the fabric.  Pattern and one more 
would be minimum, but extra layers would make the working pad a bit firmer.

Most of the people in my class just held the 'sandwich' in their hands but I 
did use a small firm pillow part of the time.  The teacher said a pillow was 
optional.

Alice in Oregon .. facing one more night below freezing before weather warms up


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HI everyone
I was taught to make needle lace using architects' linen on which to draw the
pattern. I understand that this is now in scarce supple. I have enough for my
own personal needs at present, but there is the chance that I will be asked to
teach a class on beginning needle lace at a fibre arts guild. I don't have
enough architects' linen to spare for pupils. So I was wondering what you all
use, and if there is a good substitute?
Sue

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[lace] needle lace tutorial

2010-11-28 Thread Lorelei Halley
Just recently I have created a very basic needle lace tutorial, and I've
posted it in two different places.
http://lynxlace.com/needlelacetutorial.html

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/group/beginners/forum/topics/tutorial-plain-bo
okmark

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/group/beginners/forum/topics/tutorial-plain-bo
okmark-1

The content is the same, but they look different because the software is
different.  It is not a pretty pattern, but just a simple bookmark.  But I
tried to get photos of the major technical elements, to make it easier to
picture what is supposed to happen.

Lorelei Halley

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[lace] needle lace

2010-02-11 Thread Lorelei Halley
I found an interesting piece of needlelace online:

http://www.muzeumtatrzanskie.com.pl/?strona,doc,pol,glownaen,1426,0,306,1,142
6,ant.html

Lorelei

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[lace] Needle lace and colors

2010-01-29 Thread Lenore English
I'm still a beginner in needle lace, and ready to start Pattern 5 from
the Guild of Needle Lace Basic Book. It's a bird, looks like a Toucan
or something tropical.

I'd like to do it with several colors - yellow for the bill, white for
the face, blue feathers, but I'm not sure about how to begin.

When I couch my trace threads to begin, should I couch with the color
I expect to use when I do my final top stitching? If I do, I think it
would be best to join it all together as I work, using a crochet hook
to go under and make things secure.

Should I simply couch it all in one color, and hope I can cover it all
with the top stitching? Keep it simple?

Another question is how do I decide in which order to work the
different sections? My pieces have all been simple, but as they get
more complex, I keep wondering where to begin, and what comes next? Do
I want to avoid working over the top of already finished sections? Do
I start in the center and work my way out? Does it vary from piece to
piece and just do what I want?

Thanks for any input you have. I'm working from books without a live
person nearby. Liz in Oz has answered a lot of my questions off list,
but I hate to pester her all the time. So now I'm asking the Arachne
List!

Lenore in Grand Rapids, Michigan

12F above zero. B!

http://tatt3r-lace.blogspot.com

you can see my recent needle lace projects

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[lace] needle lace questions

2010-01-29 Thread Lorelei Halley
Lenore and Liz
I would be very interested in hearing the answers to Lenore's questions.  Even
though I don't make needle lace myself, I am interested in the process.  And
who knows? When my eyes just can't do bobbin lace anymore, maybe I'll switch
to needle lace where I can use a magnifier.  Just hearing the discussion about
how to work needlelace, and hearing the anwers to questions from a relative
beginner would be very interesting.  I'll read them all and store them in
memory.
Lorelei

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[lace] needle lace

2009-09-05 Thread Janice Blair
Catherine  wrote:
You may like to see my 'Parasol for Iris' on the Guild of Needlelaces web
site.  Click on 'Gallery' at the top, then Catherine Barley and you will see a
small selection of my work.  Click on individual pictures to enlarge -
'Parasol for Iris' is the first image and I had some multi-purpose greeting
cards printed of the parasol which with the help of colleagues/friends I was
able to raise £1,512.00GBP
($2,440.33USD - 2,936.20AUD) which I sent earlier this year to Breast Cancer
Research.

http://www.guildofneedlelaces.org/

Thank you for sending the link for the Needlelace Guild.  Inspiring.  I can see 
how 
the parasol took so long to complete, and congratulations for raising so much 
money for a good cause.  I just spent the afternoon looking at my ancient 
Dilmont Encyclopedia.  My teacher said it had the best selection of needle lace 
stitches available and I think she was right.
Janice

 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
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Re: [lace] needle lace

2009-08-20 Thread Branwyn ni Druaidh
Oh wow!  Following a link from your link, I found this:
http://www.fioretombolo.net/reticelloantico.htm

It's very picture heavy, and not all the pictures loaded for me.  But all
the reticello lace, on all the different items!  Wow!  When I get done with
a couple of recreation peices (when I get good enough for a couple of
recreation peices) I want to do that!

Bronwen

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:24 AM, silvia gardiol sgard...@gmail.com wrote:

 At this link:  http://www.tuttoricamo.com/_MenuComeSiFa.asp (italian
 and english version) you can find some instructions and history of
 Reticello, a traditional Italian embroidery
 Silvia



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[lace] Needle lace

2009-06-15 Thread Mica J
I have a question regarding needle lace, but first a quick intro.  I've been
lurking on this list on and off since 1995.  I consider myself primarily a
bobbin lace maker, but these days I seem to spend more time tatting than
making bobbin lace.  Recently though I've decided to take the plunge into
needle lace.  I am trying to teach myself from Valerie Grimwood's book.  I
finished the first flower, am working on the leaf motif and that's it as far
as patterns go.  I know that a big part of needle lace is laying down the
cordonnet, and that's where I have trouble.  Is there a right and a
wrong way of doing it (i.e. where to start, how to lay it down so you can
get as much done in 1 round as possible...)?  Specifically, I am looking at
the floral mat that is also shown in the book, however there are no working
notes provided for that pattern.  It seems like there is a huge leap going
from the 2 patterns with working notes to that little mat.  Or am I making
too big of a deal out of this, and it will ge easier with practice?  I
assume that once I make more needle lace, I will figure out how to run the
cordonnet so that I am not forever cutting it and adding in new threads.  I
would hate to reinvent the wheel if I don't have to!  Also, are there any
other books recommended for beginners?  I also have Lovesey's book, but do
not find it as good for a total beginner.  Thanks in advance for any answers
to my convoluted questions.  I am sure I will have more questions once I
actually start the pattern.  Taking a leap and working on a pattern with no
pattern notes is a lot more daunting than it should be!

Mica
Upstate NY

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Re: [lace] Needle lace

2009-06-15 Thread Beth Marshall
I've only done a little needlelace, several years ago - I can't quite remember 
how I decide where to start and finish a cordonnet, so I can't help with that 
question. 

I used the Grimwood book alongside Catherine Barley's book - I found 
Catherine's instructions pretty clear as a near-beginner, IIRR. 

Beth
waiting for the gathering clouds to produce some rain for my garden
in Cheshire, N W England

Mica J wrote:
 Also, are there any other books recommended for beginners?  I also have
 Lovesey's book, but do not find it as good for a total beginner.  

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RE: [lace] Needle lace

2009-06-15 Thread Patricia Dowden
I have a question regarding needle lace, but first a quick intro.  I've been
lurking on this list on and off since 1995.  I consider myself primarily a
bobbin lace maker, but these days I seem to spend more time tatting than
making bobbin lace.  Recently though I've decided to take the plunge into
needle lace.  I am trying to teach myself from Valerie Grimwood's book
I also have Lovesey's book, but do not find it as good for a total beginner.


Thanks in advance for any answers
to my convoluted questions.  I am sure I will have more questions once I
actually start the pattern.  Taking a leap and working on a pattern with no
pattern notes is a lot more daunting than it should be!

Mica
Upstate NY

=

Hi Mica, 
I myself have only done a few attempts at needlelace, but as to your concern
about cutting the thread, consider these points.

1.  They only have to be construction grade, eventually, all the of the base
threads will be covered with buttonhole stitches, so the number of ends or
cuts does not make a lot of difference.

2.  While it is convenient to have a more continuous frame of threads, it's
not critical.  You mentioned tatting, and while hiding ends are a larger
issue in tatting, the framework in needlelace is much less of a technical
issue.

My basic approach is a pretty simple minded divide and conquer method

If a double thread approaches a Y in the pattern, take the thread on the
side of the new branch out and back from the end of the branch.  This could
include a multiple branched branch - just one thread out and then double
back to the starting point of the single thread.

When I meet the end of a doubled loop (as from the above simple or complex
branch), take the current thread through the loop to anchor it.  Then baste
before and after the loop and the loop itself. 

Baste at will, it all comes out.

Don't try to figure out the whole path from the beginning.  It's not worth
the effort.  As you get more experience and have solved different paths, it
gets easier.  

RELAX! And enjoy your new art!

Patty

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[lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread Agnes Boddington

As promised, I am reporting back from our needle lace class yesterday.
Personnally, I only got as far as couching down the outline thread for a 
five-petalled flower.
As a result of the position I was working in, I developed a thumping 
headache (quite common as

a result of a childhood accident), which still has not subsided yet.

Most of the group were beginners, only a few had done needle lace before.
One is actually a member of the UK Guild of Needle Lacers: 
http://guildofneedlelaces.org
and has a wonderful domed wooden box which she bought from them a few 
years ago,

the top is used as a pillow as described by several Arachne members.
However, the top is hinged and tilts backward to reveal a nice storage box.

Our lace teacher has a home made roll, covered in cloth, I estimate it 
is 30 cm long with a diameter of
15cm. To make working on it easier, she uses a chop stick to lift the 
material sufficiently.


I will have another go when I find the time to do so, but for the moment 
will stick with bobbin lace,

as I don't have nearly eanough time to do that on top of teaching.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread Sue Duckles
Must admit, as I'd decided to do a different pattern to Agnes, I  
managed to finish one petal (for practice only... I was set a  
challenge by the teacher to get it finished so they could show how to  
finish off!!...)  That petal is definitely in the 'here's my first  
practice' category!!!


I think if Agnes wants to do some more, she should get a needle lace  
pillow (at the same time as I do) and then we can both get Mike to  
make boxes for them to sit in!!  LOL (I'll get told off for that  
one.)


It was a fun day though.  Definitely one of those things that one  
could take most places to sit and do in 'quiet moments' long as it  
wasn't on a plane not sure that the needles would be allowed!


Sue in Brough (next door to Elloughton) UK
On 18 Jan 2009, at 12:55, Agnes Boddington wrote:


As promised, I am reporting back from our needle lace class yesterday.
Personnally, I only got as far as couching down the outline thread  
for a five-petalled flower.
As a result of the position I was working in, I developed a thumping  
headache (quite common as

a result of a childhood accident), which still has not subsided yet.

Most of the group were beginners, only a few had done needle lace  
before.

One is actually a member of the UK Guild of Needle Lacers: 
http://guildofneedlelaces.org
and has a wonderful domed wooden box which she bought from them a  
few years ago,

the top is used as a pillow as described by several Arachne members.
However, the top is hinged and tilts backward to reveal a nice  
storage box.


Our lace teacher has a home made roll, covered in cloth, I estimate  
it is 30 cm long with a diameter of
15cm. To make working on it easier, she uses a chop stick to lift  
the material sufficiently.


I will have another go when I find the time to do so, but for the  
moment will stick with bobbin lace,

as I don't have nearly eanough time to do that on top of teaching.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread Agnes Boddington

I think Sue needs to talk to my husband herself about the box!
Agnes

Sue Duckles wrote:
Must admit, as I'd decided to do a different pattern to Agnes, I 
managed to finish one petal (for practice only... I was set a 
challenge by the teacher to get it finished so they could show how to 
finish off!!...)  That petal is definitely in the 'here's my first 
practice' category!!!


I think if Agnes wants to do some more, she should get a needle lace 
pillow (at the same time as I do) and then we can both get Mike to 
make boxes for them to sit in!!  LOL (I'll get told off for that 
one.)


It was a fun day though.  Definitely one of those things that one 
could take most places to sit and do in 'quiet moments' long as it 
wasn't on a plane not sure that the needles would be allowed!


Sue in Brough (next door to Elloughton) UK
On 18 Jan 2009, at 12:55, Agnes Boddington wrote:




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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread Malvary J Cole

Sue wrote:
 Definitely one of those things that one  could take most places to sit and 
do in 'quiet moments' long as it  wasn't on a plane not sure that the 
needles would be allowed!



I would just say that the one thing that I have been able to do on planes is 
my counted cross-stitch.  It has never been queried going through security.


Malvary in Ottawa, Canada 


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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
Last fall, at our Fall Lace Day, I took a class from Susan Banbury in 
Charlotte, NC, on beginning Needle Lace.  We each made a flower petal, 
and the class was excellent - Susan is a wonderful teacher!  For those 
who want to try Needle Lace, and don't really want to have to get yet 
another pillow, it is very possible to do Needle Lace in your hands.  
There are numerous paintings showing ladies making lace this way.  I've 
checked my Lovesey books, and there's no reference to this way of doing 
it.  Catherine Barley mentions it briefly in her book, and I have a good 
booklet on beginners Needle Lace from Lavender Rose  (actually, it came 
as part of a kit) which has a 1990 copyright to Windsor (no other 
name) and the notation Snohomish, WA 98291-1365 on the cover...  but 
no other information.  Bev - are you familiar with this? 

Anyway, for small pieces, and beginning work, in hand is a very 
workable solution.  Hopefully there are others on the list with more 
experience in NL who will be able to speak to this kind of work.


Clay

Sue Duckles wrote:
Must admit, as I'd decided to do a different pattern to Agnes, I 
managed to finish one petal (for practice only... I was set a 
challenge by the teacher to get it finished so they could show how to 
finish off!!...)  That petal is definitely in the 'here's my first 
practice' category!!!


I think if Agnes wants to do some more, she should get a needle lace 
pillow (at the same time as I do) and then we can both get Mike to 
make boxes for them to sit in!!  LOL (I'll get told off for that 
one.)


It was a fun day though.  Definitely one of those things that one 
could take most places to sit and do in 'quiet moments' long as it 
wasn't on a plane not sure that the needles would be allowed!


Sue in Brough (next door to Elloughton) UK
On 18 Jan 2009, at 12:55, Agnes Boddington wrote:


As promised, I am reporting back from our needle lace class yesterday.
Personnally, I only got as far as couching down the outline thread 
for a five-petalled flower.
As a result of the position I was working in, I developed a thumping 
headache (quite common as

a result of a childhood accident), which still has not subsided yet.

Most of the group were beginners, only a few had done needle lace 
before.
One is actually a member of the UK Guild of Needle Lacers: 
http://guildofneedlelaces.org
and has a wonderful domed wooden box which she bought from them a few 
years ago,

the top is used as a pillow as described by several Arachne members.
However, the top is hinged and tilts backward to reveal a nice 
storage box.


Our lace teacher has a home made roll, covered in cloth, I estimate 
it is 30 cm long with a diameter of
15cm. To make working on it easier, she uses a chop stick to lift the 
material sufficiently.


I will have another go when I find the time to do so, but for the 
moment will stick with bobbin lace,

as I don't have nearly eanough time to do that on top of teaching.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread Sue Babbs
I was taught to make needlelace without using a pillow, and did all my City 
and Guilds pieces that way. When I came to try it on a pillow, I found that 
hard and have never adapted to it.  I guess it's like learning on Midlands 
bobbins and then someone suggesting you try continental - or vice versa. 
Hard!


An advantage of not using a pillow is that it the lacemaking is even more 
transportable and can be worked on in odd places (back to the top of the 
mountain standing in the snow!)


Sue

- Original Message - 
From: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net



 For those who want to try Needle Lace, and don't really want to have to 
get yet another pillow, it is very possible to do Needle Lace in your 
hands.


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Fw: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread Sue
I must say that I have never really had much desire to work needlelace, but 
looking at the pictures on the site below has kindled some desire to 
reproduce some of the wonderful pieces shown here.

Beautiful work everyone, well done to all and thanks for sharing.
Sue T


As promised, I am reporting back from our needle lace class yesterday.
Personnally, I only got as far as couching down the outline thread for a
five-petalled flower.
As a result of the position I was working in, I developed a thumping
headache (quite common as
a result of a childhood accident), which still has not subsided yet.

Most of the group were beginners, only a few had done needle lace before.
One is actually a member of the UK Guild of Needle Lacers:
http://guildofneedlelaces.org
and has a wonderful domed wooden box which she bought from them a few
years ago,
the top is used as a pillow as described by several Arachne members.
However, the top is hinged and tilts backward to reveal a nice storage box.

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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread Scotlace
I second that comment about being able to do cross stitch on a  plane. Of 
course, tapestry needles aren't exactly sharp!  I even had  my pendant cutter 
admired by security staff at Cardiff Airport.  Needless  to say I didn't admit 
it 
had a blade in it :-)
 
Patricia in Wales
_scotl...@aol.com_ (mailto:scotl...@aol.com) 

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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread David in Ballarat

Dear Friends,


I second that comment about being able to do cross stitch on a  plane. Of
course, tapestry needles aren't exactly sharp!  I even had  my pendant cutter
admired by security staff at Cardiff Airport.  Needless  to say I 
didn't admit it

had a blade in it :-)


I've done cross stitch on a plane just a couple of years ago. I had 
actually taped my rather blunt needle to one of my keys and no-one 
noticed. The crew didn't even think of confiscating my work.


Another time (or may be even that time) my circular pendant cutter 
dropped and came in two on the floor. There was a beautiful round 
razor blade lying on the floor. I very smartly put it back together again :)

David in Ballarat - slowly getting over shingles.

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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread bev walker
Hi all

At a Pacific Northwest Lace Conference I took a needlelace class with Nancy
Evans (highly recommended teacher, too); we worked without pillows. The
project was convenient to pull out to work on as I sat on the ferry on the
last part of my journey home. I had all the bits in a pocket of a small case
a friend had made to hold bobbin lace tools.

Come to think of it, when we had an intro class at the lace club some years
ago, we didn't use pillows either. Someone brought one to class and we all
just examined it but no-one tried to use it. As I am a complete duffer with
needle and thread, I took the class from Nancy to understand the structure
of this beautiful technique.

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Sue Babbs sueba...@comcast.net wrote:

 I was taught to make needlelace without using a pillow, and did all my City
 and Guilds pieces that way. When I came to try it on a pillow, I found that
 hard and have never adapted to it.  I guess it's like learning on Midlands
 bobbins and then someone suggesting you try continental - or vice versa.
 Hard!

 An advantage of not using a pillow is that it the lacemaking is even more
 transportable and can be worked on in odd places (back to the top of the
 mountain standing in the snow!)

 Sue

 - Original Message - From: Clay Blackwell 
 clayblackw...@comcast.net


   For those who want to try Needle Lace, and don't really want to have to
 get yet another pillow, it is very possible to do Needle Lace in your hands.




-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread Lorri Ferguson
I don't know about the 'Windsor',  but 'Snohomish, WA 98291-1365'  is a town,
north of Seattle, WA, that is known for its 'antique shops'.  The numbers
indicate the zip code of the town and block of the establishment, so it is a
fairly recent address (incomplete -not PO Box or 'shop' address).  Windsor
might be the shop's name.

Just a little for clarity.
Lorri


   Catherine Barley mentions it briefly in her book, and I have a good
  booklet on beginners Needle Lace from Lavender Rose  (actually, it came
  as part of a kit) which has a 1990 copyright to Windsor (no other
  name) and the notation Snohomish, WA 98291-1365 on the cover...  but
  no other information.  Bev - are you familiar with this?

  Anyway, for small pieces, and beginning work, in hand is a very
  workable solution.  Hopefully there are others on the list with more
  experience in NL who will be able to speak to this kind of work.

  Clay

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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread jviking
Hi All,  I'd hoped the name of the lace maker in Snohomish would come to
mind but it hasn't yet G.  When arachne was young we got reports on the
convention in the Pacific NW and an IOLI member in Snohomish gave us the
most reports.  I don't have my IOLI membership...  Oh, that might be a
shop owned by Mimi Dillman - that's her name

Jane with a cold in snowy Vermont, USA
jvik...@sover.net

 I don't know about the 'Windsor',  but 'Snohomish, WA 98291-1365'  is a
 town,
 north of Seattle, WA, that is known for its 'antique shops'.  The numbers
 indicate the zip code of the town and block of the establishment, so it is
 a
 fairly recent address (incomplete -not PO Box or 'shop' address).  Windsor
 might be the shop's name.

 Just a little for clarity.
 Lorri


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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread bev walker
Puts hand up - 'Lavender Rose' is/was a company dealing in needlework items.
One of my embroidery pals made several angels in cross-stitch from kits from
Lavender Rose. I wondered if 'Windsor' had been the pen-name of the person
who did the needlelace instructions for the kit, as Clay mentioned. Anyway
I'm asking a buddy who might know further - curiosity getting the better of
me now!

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Lorri Ferguson lorri...@msn.com wrote:

 I don't know about the 'Windsor',  but 'Snohomish, WA 98291-1365'  is a
 town,

 --
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] needle lace - pillow

2009-01-18 Thread Alice Howell
Was it the same class I was in?  I also took Nancy's class one  year and she 
did not require or work with a pillow.  However, I had a decorative sofa pillow 
about 5 x 10 and about 4 inches thick, very firmly stuffed.  Because arthritis 
in my fingers makes it difficult some days to hold something for any length of 
time, I wanted to try the pillow as an alternative, and used it most of the 
time in class.  It worked quite well to support the fabric sandwich as I 
worked.  I did pick the project up for a particularly difficult stitch or angle.

If I take the project with me to a meeting or somethingjust to have 
something in my fingers as I sit  then I don't use the pillow.  If your 
fingers are happy holding the project, that's just fine.  Go to it.  If your 
fingers protest the action, try a small firm pillow as a support.

Alice in Oregon ... still just a few traces of snow where huge piles of it sat, 
but the weather is clear and no rain or snow for a few days, though cold.  (PS. 
 My previous messages were put in my Spam folder by my computer.  Sort of 
unfair of it.  Hope I have it better trained this time. G)





- Original Message 
From: bev walker walker.b...@gmail.com

At a Pacific Northwest Lace Conference I took a needlelace class with Nancy
Evans (highly recommended teacher, too); we worked without pillows.

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Re: [lace] needle lace revisited

2009-01-18 Thread Lorri Ferguson
Mimi Dillman does live in Snohomish (as do 2 other Lacemakers of Puget Sound
members) but she doesn't have a shop that I know of (she works full time in
the shipping industry I believe).
I don't live near enough to be familiar with the various shops there (it is
some 60+ miles north of me).  I'm not sure if one could google to find out or
not.

Lorri
Graham, WA.  in the foothills of Mt. Rainier
  - Original Message -
  From: jvik...@sover.netmailto:jvik...@sover.net
  To: lace@arachne.commailto:lace@arachne.com
  Sent: 01/18/2009 12:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [lace] needle lace revisited


  Hi All,  I'd hoped the name of the lace maker in Snohomish would come to
  mind but it hasn't yet G.  When arachne was young we got reports on the
  convention in the Pacific NW and an IOLI member in Snohomish gave us the
  most reports.  I don't have my IOLI membership...  Oh, that might be a
  shop owned by Mimi Dillman - that's her name

  Jane with a cold in snowy Vermont, USA
  jvik...@sover.netmailto:jvik...@sover.net

   I don't know about the 'Windsor',  but 'Snohomish, WA 98291-1365'  is a
   town,
   north of Seattle, WA, that is known for its 'antique shops'.  The numbers
   indicate the zip code of the town and block of the establishment, so it
is
   a
   fairly recent address (incomplete -not PO Box or 'shop' address).
Windsor
   might be the shop's name.
  
   Just a little for clarity.
   Lorri
  

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[lace] needle lace pillow dimensions

2009-01-14 Thread tess parrish

Delores asked me for the dimensions of the pillow I made:

The pillow I made was as close to the ones I saw in Venice as I could  
get after coming home and scrounging what I could find.


The diameter of the pillow needs to raise the work to convenient hand  
level when it is placed on the lap.  Thus, mine has a diameter of 6  
and is 12 long.  The dowel that I had at had happens to be 2 in  
diameter, although I suspect that the Italian ones might have been  
closer to closet pole size (1).  Not less than that, though, because  
it is what you use to free both hands for working and you need space  
to be comfortable. Its diameter is  added to the height of the pillow  
on your lap.  I made my dowel a little longer than the pillow itself,  
perhaps because that was the length of the piece of wood that I had,  
or maybe to make it easier to slip out when necessary.


The main thing is to make it personal.  It needs to fit you, not some  
set of rules.  The ones the Italian lacemakers were using were all  
different, probably most of them home made.


Tess (tess1...@aol.com) in Maine USA, where the predicted cold snap is  
just beginning to arrive: +2 degrees fahrenheit at 10 pm and will get  
lower overnight.


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Re: [lace] Needle lace pillow

2009-01-12 Thread Ilske Thomsen

Hello Everybody,
the describtion you have given are like the ndl.lace pillows look  
like. If somebody has the book needlelace from Pat Earnshaw you can  
see on page 6 an engraving from a lady with such a pillow. And on page  
13 a drawing from another type used in Burano.


Ilske

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Re: [lace] Lace needle Lace Pillow

2009-01-12 Thread Sue Babbs

SMP lace sells needlelace pillows for £4 uncovered (£8 covered)

See

http://www.smplace.co.uk/sfr_cat.htm

Sue (in snowy Illinois) 


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Re: [lace] Lace needle Lace Pillow

2009-01-12 Thread Dmt11home
While I covet a needlelace pillow with beautiful wood and turnings and  
perhaps a little drawer like the ones seen in books, I took a class with Irma  
Osterman and she had us use a tailor's ham. It worked fine, was inexpensive and 
 
did not eat up valuable lacemaking time in having to construct the pillow.
Devon
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[lace] needle lace pillow

2009-01-12 Thread tess parrish
I can't resist: go to 
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/illustrations/pt_nlp.pdf 
  and you will see the needle lace pillow I made after visiting the  
lacemaking group in Venice a few years ago.  This should give you an  
idea of what it looks like and from that how to put it all together.   
It sits on your lap while you work.

Also, I have just been scanning the Italian version of the DMC needle  
lace book.  It will appear on the site under This Month, but wait a  
bit: it is still being processed by John Cropper, our loyal computer  
expert.  You can find other copies of the same book in French and  
English as well. Go to:   
www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/books/dmc_lace_1.pdf 
   (English)   
  http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/books/dmc_ldal-1.pdf 
  (French)

For those newbies who may not know about the Archives site, go to 
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/ 
  and be prepared for a feast!  You can search for something  
specific, check out the newest additions, and find a wealth of old  
books (pre-1923) that have been scanned and posted on the site.   
Topics will give you an idea of the subjects covered, and there are  
probably more perhaps not listed that way.  This collection is in  
large part due to the many people who have lent their own precious  
books and documents and allowed them to be scanned and thus saved for  
posterity.  If you have any that should be in the collection and which  
you want to lend for the site, we would be happy to hear from you.

Enjoy!

Tess (tess1...@aol.com) in snowy Maine USA

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Re: [lace] needle lace pillow

2009-01-12 Thread Delores Miller
Tess, could you give us dimensions of the pillow and the dowel?  Is the 
dowel what we use for closet poles in the USA?  TIA


Delores Miller, Sedo-Woolley, WA, USA 


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[lace] needle lace pillow

2009-01-12 Thread Jane Partridge
In message f5f027df281a4fdeae3d325541857...@winxp, Delores Miller 
deemill...@verizon.net writes

Tess, could you give us dimensions of the pillow and the dowel?  Is the
dowel what we use for closet poles in the USA?  TIA


The purpose of the dowel is simply to put a curved surface under the bit 
that you are working on, much as you would use your finger if you were 
holding the work in your hand. It doesn't have to be a dowel - I 
normally use a pencil!  (It goes between the pillow and the cloth pad 
which is under your work, so the lead is unlikely to come into contact 
with your work.) Then again, I only need to use it when working the 
cordonette (the final outlining of closely worked buttonhole stitches 
over two or more new threads laid along the cordonnet) - at this point 
because you are trying to get the needle under several taut threads it 
is easier if the section is raised slightly. The rest of the time I pin 
the pad to the pillow and work with it flat against  the curve of 
the pillow. The cordonnet (the foundation of two parallel  threads which 
are couched down along the pattern outlines before you start working the 
fillings) is worked before the work is pinned to the pillow.


I have one of the SMP polystyrene pillows (covered), but tend now to use 
the foam packaging tube that contained the free puppy in a pack of 
Andrex toilet paper some years ago - it is about 6 inches diameter, the 
foam being about an inch thick - perfect for clipping my clip on 
magnifier to!  This tube is probably about 14 inches long, but as long 
as it is big enough to hold the work you are doing the length doesn't 
really matter. The useful bit about using a tube is that you can store 
things inside it - my magnifier lives inside the tube when I'm not 
working.


Because you start with the pattern tacked to a slightly larger pad of 
cloth, I haven't found it necessary to cover the foam tube - the work 
and thread don't come into contact with it. Do have a cloth to pin over 
your work when you leave it, though, as you would for bobbin lace.


--
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] Lace - Needle Lace Pillow

2009-01-12 Thread Jeriames
You can see a picture of my needlelace pillow at 
_http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/_ (http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/) 
Choose the Gallery option, and you'll be able to select a variety of  
pictures of lace pillows.  Needlelace is 3rd from bottom of list.  My  
needlelace 
pillow has a specially-made tote bag with draw strings in  suitable shape (not 
shown), made from the same fabric.  Everything was  made by a friend over 15 
years ago, from the instructions in Starting  Needlepoint Lace - A Course for 
Beginners by Valerie Grimwood, ISBN  0-7134-5806-2 (Batsford), pg. 14, 1989.  
Foreword by Nenia Lovesey.   (Please note corrected spelling of Nenia's name.)
 
As to the late Nenia Lovesey, there is a picture of her making lace on  one 
of these pillows on the back flap of the book jacket of her book The  
Technique of Needlepoint Lace, ISBN 0-88332-249--8 (Publisher: Larousse   
Co., NY), 
1980.  She is sitting at a table, with the pillow on the table  top (not in 
lap).
 
There is a picture of a young girl making needlelace on a pillow in  another 
book by Lovesey:  pg. 78 of Reflections on Lace, ISBN  0-85219-750-0 (Dryad 
Press), 1988.  She is sitting at a table, with  the needlelace pillow in a 
wooden stand to prevent rolling. Towards the  front of this book are photos of 
very young children making bobbin lace!
 
Some people prefer to make needlelace in the hand.  I saw professional  
lace-making Hungarian women   making Halas lace in this  way.
 
My needlelace pillow has been used for other purposes, such as to  anchor 
small pieces of silk batiste that were being hand smocked --  dainty 
butterflies. 
 Kept them from jumping around.  When you  handle needlework less, it does 
not get dirty from hands.
 
A stand is nice, but a fluffy bath towel can be used as a base to  keep the 
round pillow from moving around if you have problems.  It  will pack better in 
a tote bag.   
 
I liked the suggestions to use a tailor's ham or long pressing aid for  
seams.  Please note that for most types of embroidery (which  needlelace is) it 
is 
best to sit in a straight-back chair at a table,  with suitable light.  This 
is the way professional embroiderers work -  and they are able to stitch many 
hours per day.  
 
Jeri  Ames
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
 

 
In a message dated 1/11/2009 10:40:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
miness.stn.ba...@sympatico.ca writes:

-A  friend who is a superb needlelacer but is not on the Lace list send me
the  following -e-mail .

I obtained a used copy of a book on  needle lace, a great book by Nenia
Livesay. Needle lace used to be worked  on a needle lace pillow so you can use
both hands and the author recommends  using one. I have to hold it with one
hand. There is a picutre in this old  book. I have searched for one, have
looked on the Lacis website and have  not found any such thing. It is 
different
than a bobbin lace pillow. Have  you ever heard of a needlelace pillow in your
years of doing  lace?

If I can't find such a thing, I may try to make one up to see if  it helps 
when
I start another project.

-Replies to forward to my  friend will be appreciated
-Thanks in advance

Hendrika van  Kooten
Simcoe County Lacemakers
Township of Springwater
Ontario,  Canada

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[lace] Lace needle Lace Pillow

2009-01-11 Thread Hendrika van Kooten
-A friend who is a superb needlelacer but is not on the Lace list send me
the following -e-mail .

  I obtained a used copy of a book on needle lace, a great book by Nenia
Livesay. Needle lace used to be worked on a needle lace pillow so you can use
both hands and the author recommends using one. I have to hold it with one
hand. There is a picutre in this old book. I have searched for one, have
looked on the Lacis website and have not found any such thing. It is different
than a bobbin lace pillow. Have you ever heard of a needlelace pillow in your
years of doing lace?

If I can't find such a thing, I may try to make one up to see if it helps when
I start another project.

-Replies to forward to my friend will be appreciated
-Thanks in advance

Hendrika van Kooten
 Simcoe County Lacemakers
Township of Springwater
Ontario, Canada

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[lace] needle lace

2009-01-11 Thread Agnes Boddington

Hello Hendrika

Our worksop this coming Sat is needle lace, and our lace teacher is 
running it.
She does have a bolster pillow as described by Lorelei, but after Sat I 
may be able to tell you more.


Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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Re: [lace] Lace needle Lace Pillow

2009-01-11 Thread robinlace
A needlelace pillow is smaller than a bolster pillow, but larger than the 
roller from a roller pillow.  A padded cylinder on the order of 4-6 (10-15 cm) 
in diameter and 8-10 (20-30 cm) long.  The actual size is not important.  What 
is important is to have some curvature, to get the ends of the project out of 
the way.  Put a dowel (may 3/4 or 18 mm) under the project at the point where 
you're working, to make it easier to get the needle under stitches and out 
again.  The dowel is the equivalent of the finger you fold your work over while 
stitching in the hand.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

 Hendrika van Kooten miness.stn.ba...@sympatico.ca wrote: 
 Needle lace used to be worked on a needle lace pillow so you can use
both hands and the author recommends using one. I have to hold it with one
hand.

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Re: [lace] Needle-lace blog

2007-11-14 Thread Lenore English
I cut my little leaf from the working base, and have updated my blog
with a picture.  I can see room for improvement, but I am pleased it
stayed in one piece when I removed my couching.  I have enjoyed
working my first piece of needle lace so much I've already started
another.  It's a little ornament for the ornament exchange of our lace
group.

Once again I have to thank Aurelia for putting these lessons on her
blog.  I never thought to  try needle lace, and now my mind is reeling
with possibilities.

Lenore in SW Michigan

http://tatt3r-lace.blogspot.com/



On Nov 11, 2007 4:50 PM, Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lesson 5, Cutting from the Working Base, the fifth and last entry
 of my Needle Lace in Five Easy Lessons, is now available on my blog
 http://aurelove.blogster.com. I have really enjoyed doing this bit
 of online teaching, and am grateful to those of you who have written
 back about your experience with these lessons.


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RE: [lace] Needle-lace blog

2007-11-14 Thread Angel Skubic
Oh I am S excited myself...I am going to do the leaf and I went to
that site for that Dillmont book and found whole lots of other books and
leaflets etc to help me learn stitches etc. I am going to try to make a
sampler out of the Plate VIII in Dilmont's Needle Point Lace book. That
way I can try all the different stitches. I also want to try to do it
with the stitches currently in place. I think I am going to really like
this. Something that I can actually carry with me to work on. The
Dillmont book was a great pattern book but there are a couple of others
that are more how too books. Anyway...busy busy busy trying to learn.
Love that I already have most of the stuff I need being I do bobbin
lace, tat, crochet etc...Going to use color in this so I can see what I
am doing from row to row...

Wish me luck...thanks for the inspiration...

Cearbhael

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I cut my little leaf from the working base, and have updated my blog
with a picture.  I can see room for improvement, but I am pleased it
stayed in one piece when I removed my couching.  I have enjoyed working
my first piece of needle lace so much I've already started another.
It's a little ornament for the ornament exchange of our lace group.

Once again I have to thank Aurelia for putting these lessons on her
blog.  I never thought to  try needle lace, and now my mind is reeling
with possibilities.

Lenore in SW Michigan

http://tatt3r-lace.blogspot.com/



On Nov 11, 2007 4:50 PM, Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lesson 5, Cutting from the Working Base, the fifth and last entry of

 my Needle Lace in Five Easy Lessons, is now available on my blog 
 http://aurelove.blogster.com. I have really enjoyed doing this bit 
 of online teaching, and am grateful to those of you who have written 
 back about your experience with these lessons.


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[lace] Needle-lace blog

2007-11-11 Thread Aurelia Loveman
Lesson 5, Cutting from the Working Base, the fifth and last entry 
of my Needle Lace in Five Easy Lessons, is now available on my blog 
http://aurelove.blogster.com. I have really enjoyed doing this bit 
of online teaching, and am grateful to those of you who have written 
back about your experience with these lessons.


I am about to put on a new blogster-hat. From here on out, for the 
next few weeks or months, I shall be putting out on my blog a 
novel-in-progress. Nothing to do with lace (at least, not so far), 
nothing to do with Tina. I am still as much of a devoted lacemaker as 
ever. This is my second novel.  My first one, published years ago by 
William Morrow, was called The Good  Wife.  This one will be called 
(I think) A Look in the Mirror.  Wish me luck!


Aurelia

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