Re: [Langcom] [Langcom-l] Konkani

I am all for lowering criteria to 200 messages for all. May we conclude that we will change the policy that way? (BTW, I it seems that I don't have write permissions on the list from my @ gmail.com account.) On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:32 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > This is not formalistic nonsense,

Re: [Langcom] [Langcom-l] Konkani

I am all for lowering criteria to 200 messages for all. May we conclude that we will change the policy that way? On Mar 11, 2015 7:32 PM, "MF-Warburg" wrote: > This is not formalistic nonsense, but fair rules which are the same for > everyone. > Am 11.03.2015 18:29 schrieb "Gerard Meijssen" : >

[Langcom] Normalizing the codes

A couple of months ago I was asked to push code change for Samogotian. (At the time I hadn't have regulated my membership on this mailing list, then I forgot it.) But Samogotian is not the only code to be fixed. Basically, we should make the decision and suggest to the Board/staff/Phabricator to p

Re: [Langcom] Normalizing the codes

eml -> egl > als -> gsw > nrm -> nrf > > And also a few others, though they will require consensus building: > simple -> (not sure what; see another thread) > no -> nb > ku -> kmr > > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://

Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource

Hey! Brute from Georgia asked me what's the issue with the request for Georgian Wikisource. I suppose others are better introduced into it. BTW, I think we should approve Wikisource requests in fast forward manner, as it means we'd get more PD texts sooner. Something like "you get Wikisource for

Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource

> GerardM > > On 28 November 2015 at 21:15, Milos Rancic wrote: > >> Hey! Brute from Georgia asked me what's the issue with the request for >> Georgian Wikisource. I suppose others are better introduced into it. >> >> BTW, I think we should approve Wikisourc

Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource

t; Hoi, >>> The Neapolitan Wikisource wants this as well. >>> >>> I am in favour. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 28 November 2015 at 21:15, Milos Rancic >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey! Brute from Georgia asked me

Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > I don't understand. If ka.ws fulfills the activity requirements, it can > be approved. Did anyone check it already? > No :) I am a bit out of regular LangCom duties, so I actually asked that inside of the first email. On the other side, I do t

Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource

> Thanks, > GerardM > > On 30 November 2015 at 14:14, Milos Rancic wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM, MF-Warburg >> wrote: >> >>> I don't understand. If ka.ws fulfills the activity requirements, it can >>> be approved. Did anyone check

Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource

Thanks, > GerardM > > On 30 November 2015 at 15:24, Milos Rancic wrote: >> >> Gerard, we are talking here via the list langcom@lists.wikimedia.org. Am I >> missing something? >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Gerard Meijssen >> wrote: &

Re: [Langcom] Circassian Wikipedia - suggested approval

I agree that we shouldn't wait. I also think that we should rethink the approach and find what's the minimum of activity which would tell us that it's about a community which would be a living one. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I seriously think that we should

Re: [Langcom] Circassian Wikipedia - suggested approval

efer that we actually consider other arguments when they are available. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 14 December 2015 at 14:58, Oliver Stegen wrote: >> >> Specifically "three consecutive months of activity" - can't find the >> document but it

Re: [Langcom] Request for approval Western Balochi Wikipedia

So, are we going to approve Balochi Wikipedia? On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Ibrahim Baloch wrote: > Western Balochi has active for few months, and have more 5000 articles. > > 1- > https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&language=bgn&group=core-0-mostused&filter=%21translated

[Langcom] Mongolian Wikipedia written in Mongolian script

As we have top-down infrastructure now, I think we should make mvf eligible now. (Supposing they could write it, as it's the case with ASL.) [1] Note that there two times more Mongols in Inner Mongolia than they are in Mongolia itself, as well as they are using Mongolian traditional script. As it

Re: [Langcom] Mongolian Wikipedia written in Mongolian script

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Why have a Wikipedia where the only difference is a different script? So far > we did not accept that. If you want a formal requirement, present Mongolian Wikipedia is using "mo" as ISO 639-1 substitute for "khk", while they are asking for

Re: [Langcom] Mongolian Wikipedia written in Mongolian script

decide on this. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 16 January 2016 at 18:36, Milos Rancic wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Gerard Meijssen >> wrote: >> > Why have a Wikipedia where the only difference is a different script? So >> > fa

Re: [Langcom] Mongolian Wikipedia written in Mongolian script

On Jan 17, 2016 16:20, "Michael Everson" wrote: > On 17 Jan 2016, at 07:35, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > There are several projects waiting for "the nod" and, it is not happening. > > Which are these? I know for one, but the context is quite different and I am pretty well introduced into situation

[Langcom] Discussion about new members

One of few drawbacks of public committee list is talking about particular persons. May we conclude that whenever we get an application for a new member, one of the list admins creates an ad hoc CC list for discussion about particular application? ___ La

Re: [Langcom] Discussion about new members

yet heard anything, and mails with membership requests > appeared only shortly after you sent your mail. > > 2016-01-27 9:52 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic : > >> One of few drawbacks of public committee list is talking about >> particular persons. >> >> May we conclude that whe

Re: [Langcom] Luri Wikipedia

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote: > In May 2015, I had contacted Erik Anonby, a Canadian linguist with specialty > in Iranian languages, and he actually verified the contents of lrc:wp (then > still in the incubator). It was him who also provided contact for Mehdi > Moshkriz wh

Re: [Langcom] Luri Wikipedia

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > Who is “gfb hjjhjh”, “c933...@gmail.com”? One of the Wikimedians. As LangCom list is public, some Wikimedians send emails to our list, but that has to pass through moderation. From the other side, it's true that his or her name and surname

Re: [Langcom] First principles

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > The language policy allows us to be flexible with how we interpret the > rules. My experience is that we are not using this flexibility. I made > several proposals over te last few years and they have all been torpedoed. > > ASL is the late

Re: [Langcom] olo.wikipedia.org domain approval

Counting how much time is needed for a project to come to this stage present, I don't think four days are a big deal. It's also a good idea to give the Board a legal method to block project creation, than to come into awkward situations. On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > M

Re: [Langcom] olo.wikipedia.org domain approval

ightaway to file a bug on > Bugzilla/Phabricator. > This seems to be a good time then to update the onwiki documentation to the > actual practice or to what we would like it to be. > > 2016-09-14 14:09 GMT+02:00 Milos Rancic : >> >> Counting how much time is needed for a p

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

I think it's reasonable to have BCP 47 Wikidata localizations, including various varieties of German, French, English, Spanish. People would like to get localization in their written form. I think the same applies for Wikidata. On Nov 21, 2016 12:49 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > Hoi, > For lan

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

On Nov 23, 2016 00:47, "MF-Warburg" wrote: > > > > 2016-11-22 15:33 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic : >> >> I don't think it's true at the moment, but imagine the next integration: >> >> * A person is born on year/January/date. That's the data W

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

there is not the same blanket need to accept them. When a BCP 47 needs a different date format, it is a matter of localisation to make that happen. It is not what this do in Wikidata. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 23 November 2016 at 01:44, Milos Rancic

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Sorry the last reply was with a phone.. Not a good idea.. Yes, this email sounds definitely better :) > Having a code for Canadian French is as relevant as 18th century British > English for instance. > > In the past British English came

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > We have done that. When a language has an ISO-639-3 it is admissible for > Wikidata. Do we have different rules for Wikipedia and Wikidata? ___ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > No Wikidata is a resource where specific properties to a language can be > added. By adding this to Wikidata it gains functionality for everyone. It is > NOT a function that is used to consume content in that language, it is a > side effect

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

> Thanks, > GerardM > > On 29 November 2016 at 17:13, Milos Rancic wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Gerard Meijssen >> wrote: >> > Sorry, we discussed that in the past. Typically every ISO-639-3 is >> > allowed. >> > That is it. >

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

Nicolas, thanks for making things clear! On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: > Hi, > > I'm quite confused by this discussion and I'm not even sure why there is a > discussion here in the first place... > > Wikidata has a help page for almost a year now : > https://www.wikidat

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Sorry, we discussed that in the past. Typically every ISO-639-3 is allowed. > That is it. Yes. The point is then that Wikidata doesn't need approval from us for any valid BCP 47 combination with a valid ISO 639-3 code and that they should

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> Yes. The point is then that Wikidata doesn't need approval from us for >> any valid BCP 47 combination with a valid ISO 639-3 code and that they >> should

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I am sorry but when people want to localise Klingon in the Klingon script > they are welcome to it. This has nothing to do with the language policy. It > is up to the people at translatewiki.net to decide on that. In the past > their

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Ingush Wikipedia

Agreed, counting that the content is indeed written in proper Ingush. On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:39 AM, MF-Warburg wrote: > Hi all, > > I think Ingush Wikipedia can be approved, from the activity viewpoint. The > translation of the most-used messages is complete > (

Re: [Langcom] new member proposal: Danny B.

Yes. On Dec 5, 2016 14:08, "Amir E. Aharoni" wrote: > Hi, > > Danny B., a veteran Czech Wikimedia volunteer, asked me about joining the > Langcom. > > He is already very experienced with the Incubator, and he can help with > cleaning up the long requests backlog, so I support this. > > -- > Amir

[Langcom] Proposal for eligibility of the [Wikipedia in] Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

I am passing through the requests and the first one is the request for Wikipedia in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic [1]. The situation is a kind of complex, but I see no reason not to verify the language itself [2] as eligible, as it should be done with possible request for Chaldean Neo-Aramaic [3]. Syriac

[Langcom] Proposal for "on hold" status for [Wikipedia in] Bahraini Arabic

I suggest marking the requiest for Wikipedia in Bahraini Arabic [1] on hold. Although it could be valid per se, there is a negative attitude towards the language itself among the native speakers [2]. So, while the request could be valid in a distant future, it is presently invalid and we should w

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligibility of the [Wikipedia in] Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > So we need an expert. Anyone in Israel? I mean, Israel seems to me like a good place to search for an expert in Aramaic languages. ___ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://li

[Langcom] Suggestion to reject the proposal for Wikipedia in Arwi

Arwi [1] is an Arabic script Tamil. While I tend to argue that there is a necessity to open a new project if we are not able to fulfill the needs of the native population by the conversion engines, this language variety is used for religious purposes, not for common education. Common Tamil [2] uses

[Langcom] Eligible status for [Wikipedia in] Awadhi language

Proposal is there since 2014 [1]. As I've seen nothing controversial in the request (a valid language, a valid ISO 639-3 code, large population of native speakers [2]), I've marked the request as eligible. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Awadhi [2] https://

[Langcom] Eastern Punjabi Wikisource verified as eligible

I've verified as eligible the request for Eastern Punjabi Wikisource [1]. Although the situation is not totally clear, I've been following previous (2013) verification of the request for Wikiquote in Punjabi [2]. At least in Wikimedia projects, ISO 639-1 code "pa" is used for Eastern Punjabi and,

[Langcom] Request for Wikipedia in Atikamekw

Amqui, may you update us in relation to the request for Wikipedia in Atikamekw [1] and its community? [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Atikamekw ___ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.

[Langcom] Request for [Wikipeda in] Basaa marked as eligible

I've marked request for Wikipedia in Basaa [1] as eligible. It's a Niger-Congo language spoken in Cameroon [2], spoken by 300,000 people [3]; valid ISO 639-3 code. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Basaa [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basaa_language [3] ht

[Langcom] Wikipedia Braille rejected

I've rejected the request for Wikipedia Braille [1], as it's not a language, but a writing system used by various languages. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Braille ___ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedi

[Langcom] Campidanese Sardinian, suggesting eligibility

I suggest eligible status for the Wikipedia in Campidanese Sardinian [1]. It's used primarily for oral communication, but it's a standardized variety, with literature heritage. [2][3]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Campidanese_Sardinian [2] https://en.wi

[Langcom] Request for Cape Verdean Creole eligible

I've made the request for Wikipedia in Cape Verdean Creole [1] eligible. While it has multiple varieties, I am sure they will find a way how to deal with it if they want. It is defined by SIL/Ethnologue [2] as a single language. It is also one of the official languages of Cape Verde. [1] https://

[Langcom] Wikibooks and Wikinews

I've marked as eligible all the requests for Wikibooks and Wikinews editions which have at least one working Wikimedia project: Wikibooks * Bashkir, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikibooks_Bashkir * Cantonese, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languag

[Langcom] Suggesting rejection of the request for Wikipedia in Dalmatian

We have the second request for the Wikipedia in Dalmatian [1]. Unlike the first one [2], this is factually valid, as it's about the request for a Romance language edition, not a Slavic language edition. However, it's about a dead language. They say there are ~20 people speaking Dalmatian, but the

[Langcom] Request for [Wikipedia in] Aghem eligible

I've marked the request for [Wikipedia in] Aghem language eligible [1]. It's a Niger-Congo language [2] spoken in Cameroon by increasing population [3]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Aghem [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aghem_language [3] https://www.e

[Langcom] Suggesting "on hold" status for [Wikipedia in] Ainu

I suggest "on hold" status for the request for [Wikipedia in] Ainu [1]. While it's a valid language with large enough ethnic population, just 10 people speak it [2]. Explanation for the "on hold" status should be "waiting for native speakers". [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_l

[Langcom] Request for [Wikipedia in] Aklanon eligible

I've marked the request for [Wikipedia in] Aklanon language eligible [1]. It is an Austronesian language [2] spoken in Philippines, with educational status [3]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Aklanon [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aklanon_language [3] h

[Langcom] Request for [Wikipedia in] Chhattisgarhi eligible

I've marked the request for Wikipedia in Chhattisgarhi [1] eligible. It's an Indo-Aryan language [2] spoken by 13,300,000 speakers [3]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chhattisgarhi [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chhattisgarhi_language [3] https://www.

[Langcom] Proposal for the new member

Satdeep Gill (User:Satdeep Gill) approached Amir and me and expressed his wish to become a Language committee member. He is a very active Indian Wikimedian -- both online and offline --, as well as he knows at least Punjabi, Sindhi and Urdu (I suppose Hindi, as well). As we don't have anyone with

Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia Braille rejected

pe Béland > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada > User:Amqui > > > Le ven. 20 janv. 2017 09:02, Milos Rancic a écrit : >> >> I've rejected the request for Wikipedia Braille [1], as it's not a >> language, but a writing system used by various languages. &g

Re: [Langcom] Suggesting "on hold" status for [Wikipedia in] Ainu

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: > FYI, there is some effort to revitalise this language. The ethnologue.com > numbers may be outdated as there is even a magazine published four times a > year : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_Times > Still "on hold" is probably (and sad

Re: [Langcom] Request for Wikipedia in Atikamekw

ct > in the Incubator is not to be approved as it does not meet the requirements > yet, but the language is definitely eligible in my opinion. > > Thank you, > Jean-Philippe Béland > Vice president, Wikimedia Canada > User:Amqui > > Le ven. 20 janv. 2017 08:06, Milos Ran

[Langcom] Request for [Wikipedia in] Chukchi eligible

I've made the Request for Wikipedia in Chukchi [1] eligible. Although it's an endangered language [2], there are around 5000 native speakers [3]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chukchi [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chukchi_language [3] https://www.ethn

[Langcom] Request for [Wikipedia in] Dargwa eligible

I've made request for Wikipedia in Dargwa [1] eligible. It is a Northeast Caucasian language spoken by half million of speakers [2], learned in schools [3]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Dargwa [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dargwa_language [3] https:/

Re: [Langcom] Doteli Wikipedia

I've made request for Wikipedia in Doteli [1] eligible. Doteli is a Nepali language spoken by around 800,000 of people [2]. It is widely used [3]. In relation to the approval, I would ask somebody else to analyze if the requirements are fulfilled and if not, what the community should do. [1] http

[Langcom] Request for [Wikipedia in] Duala eligible

I've made request for Wikipedia in Duala [1] eligible. It's Niger-Congo language [2] spoken in Cameroon by around 90,000 of people [3]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Duala [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duala_language [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia Braille rejected

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Marcos Williamson wrote: > From my understanding, many blind and visually impaired people use hardware > that automatically generates Braille text so they can read computer screens. > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refreshable_braille_display (others may use > scr

[Langcom] "doing" / "Verification ongoing"

Inside of the template for "lc-row" [1], used on the page Requests for new languages [2], I've added the type of official status "Verification ongoing" which would be invoked by typing "doing" into the "status" field. I think it's pretty plain and useful for both ourselves and those waiting for ou

[Langcom] Request for Wikipedia in European Portuguese rejected

Initially, before I read the content of the page, I've been thinking to put this as a proposal. However, not just that there are no reasonable linguistic basis, but I see the proposal [1] as edgy in the sense of trolling. My comment with rejection is: According to the article Reforms of Portugues

[Langcom] Proposal for "on hold" status for the request for [Wikipedia in] Enets

The request [1] is about a nearly extinct Uralic language [2][3]. I wouldn't reject the proposal, but we definitely need native speakers to consider the proposal as a valid one. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Enets [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enets_

Re: [Langcom] "doing" / "Verification ongoing"

at! I'd I understand it right it's for cases > where all criteria are (mostly) met, but we need to get external exists, > right? > > 23. jan. 2017 21:32 skrev "Milos Rancic" : >> >> Inside of the template for "lc-row" [1], used on the page Reques

Re: [Langcom] "doing" / "Verification ongoing"

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > The two week period is for when we inform the board that we have come to a > conclusion and that they may object within the two week time frame. When > someone of the committee objects, it is a no. What is our *internal* period after which

Re: [Langcom] "doing" / "Verification ongoing"

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:54 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > 7 days. > > By the way, the period for the proposals to the Board *was* also 7 days - > before it was changed to "informing the community via meta:Talk:Langcom" > (still 7 days). Thanks! :) ___ Langc

[Langcom] Wikipedia in Gurenɛ/Frafra eligible

I marked eligible the request [1] for Wikipedia in Gurenɛ/Frafra [2] eligible. It's a Niger-Congo language spoken as "De facto provincial language in Upper East Region." of Ghana [3] by more than 600,000 of people. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Guren%C9%

[Langcom] "Wikipedia Albanskiy" rejected

Not sure if trolling or simple lack of information [1]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Albanskiy ___ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

[Langcom] The color of "eligible"

I would like to change the color of "eligible" status from green into cyan (or whatever is your suggestion) to make a difference from the color for "created". ___ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listin

[Langcom] Wikipedia Asi/Bantoanon eligible

I've marked the request [1] for Wikipedia in Asi/Bantoanon [2] eligible. It's a developing Austronesian language spoken by 75,000 Philippines [3] BTW, may somebody contact the proposer [4]. Assuming good faith, that person seems to be poor in any other than native language. Maybe a Tagalog speaker

[Langcom] Proposal for rejection of Wikipedia in Avestan

I propose rejection of the proposal for the Wikipedia in Avestan [1]. It's an extinct language [2][3]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Avestan_2 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avestan [3] https://www.ethnologue.com/language/ave

[Langcom] Proposal for Wikipedia in Bandjalang

There is a proposal [1] for Wikipedia in Bandjalang [2]. It is a Pama–Nyungan language [3], an indigenous languages of Australia. The problem with indigenous languages of Australia is that they are used by very small number of speakers. The rule is that there are just few dozen of speakers. Accor

[Langcom] Ask for merging two proposals

May somebody merge the proposals for Asi [1] and Bantoanon [2]. It's the same language and my cognitive capabilities are insufficient for this action ;) [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Asi [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiki

[Langcom] Wikipedia in Baoule eligible

I've marked the proposal [1] for Wikipedia in Baoule [2] eligible. It's a Niger-Congo language used in Ivory Coast by 3 million of speakers [3]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Baoul%C3%A9 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baoul%C3%A9_language [3] https://

[Langcom] Wikipedia Bodo eligible

I've marked the request [1] for Wikipedia in Bodo language [2] eligible. It's a Sino-Tibetan language used by 1.3 million of speakers in India [3]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Bodo [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_language [3] https://www.ethnolog

[Langcom] Wikipedia Bofonisk rejected

The proposal [1] could be relevant for research under the name "Bofonian". However, there are a couple of legitimate links to the word "bofonisk" and all of them lead to the texts in Scandinavian languages (Norwegian and Danish). I would say it was trolling. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Re

[Langcom] Wikipedia in Brazilian Portuguese rejected

Unlike with European Portuguese request, this time [1] the proposer didn't bother even to say anything in favor of project creation. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Brazilian_Portuguese_4 ___ Langcom mailing lis

[Langcom] Wikipedia in Bari eligible

I've made request [1] for Wikipedia in Bari [2] eligible. It is a Nilo-Saharan language spoken in South Sudan and Uganda by around 700,000 people. [3] [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Bari [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bari_language [3] https://www.ethno

Re: [Langcom] "doing" / "Verification ongoing"

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote: > So, it doesn't really make sense to respond to a message on change to > eligible status (like many initiated by Milos recently) just to express > consent. We should only respond if we have objections or questions. In the strict sense, yes, y

Re: [Langcom] Ask for merging two proposals

Thanks! On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:48 AM, MF-Warburg wrote: > Done. > > 2017-01-26 0:33 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic : >> >> May somebody merge the proposals for Asi [1] and Bantoanon [2]. It's >> the same language and my cognitive capabilities are insufficient for >

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligibility of the [Wikipedia in] Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

y respond on the question of dialect (i.e. > possibly combinable into arc:wp) vs language (i.e. probably needing a > distinct wp). > > Fwiw, > Oliver > > > On 19-Jan-17 16:13, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > > Maybe, I can think of a couple of names. > > > -- > Amir E

Re: [Langcom] The color of "eligible"

Thanks for clarification! Done. On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:51 AM, MF-Warburg wrote: > I have no objections. I also think that the exact layout of our templates > doesn't need a decision of Langcom ;) > > 2017-01-25 23:56 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic : >> >> I woul

Re: [Langcom] Doteli Wikipedia

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 5:01 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > The most-used messages are complete. > With regard to test-wiki activity, there are at least 3 active editors since > the start of the test in August 2014, although with interruptions (the most > recent one being in Nov. '16, when there were onl

[Langcom] Proposal for "on hold" status for Wikipedia in Buhid

I propose "on hold" status for the request [1] for Wikipedia in Buhid [2] with the comment "waiting for native speakers". Buhid is an Austronesian language spoken by 8,000 people in Philippines. The proposer is not a native speaker. If we get any native speaker, we should make the proposal eligibl

[Langcom] Wikipedia in Caribbean Hindustani eligible

I've marked proposal [1] for Wikipedia in Caribbean Hindustani [2] eligible. It's a language spoken by ~160,000 people, mostly in Suriname [3]. Proposer himself seems like a problematic editor. However, the language is a valid one, with "developing" status in Ethnologue. [1] https://meta.wikimed

[Langcom] Proposal for eligible status for Wikipedia in Cora

I propose eligible status for the proposal [1] for Wikipedia in Cora [2]. It is an Uto-Aztecan language spoken by ~10,000 people in Mexico [3]. Ethnologue says it's "developing". [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Cora [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cora_la

[Langcom] Creole Spanish rejected

I've rejected the proposal [1] for "Creole Spanish". The proposed code "crp" is a valid ISO 639-5, not ISO 639-3 code. It's not even a "macrolanguage", but a group of languages. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Creole_Spanish [2] http://www-01.sil.org/iso63

Re: [Langcom] What is the smallest community that can support a wikipedia?

There are a couple of issues here... First and most important, I think that Language committee should maintain eligibility for a language as the rule, provided that there is at least one native speaker interested in working on Wikimedia projects. We shouldn't demotivate people because of the size

Re: [Langcom] What is the smallest community that can support a wikipedia?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > What is the purpose of answering that question when it makes no difference > in the way we work. Why would we consider it, what is the point. Asking for > academic reasons? Asaf, I agree with Gerard's position in relation to the purpose of

Re: [Langcom] What is the smallest community that can support a wikipedia?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Antony Green wrote: > I remember saying a long time ago – perhaps at the meeting in Berlin – that > if there's a request for a new Wikipedia in an endangered language, we > should certainly comply with it once it meets the requirements, but in > addition, we should

Re: [Langcom] What is the smallest community that can support a wikipedia?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > What does that practically mean? It is volunteers who do this for their own > purposes. What is it that we have to care about except that it is them doing > it for their own reasons ? This is quite delicate issue. There could be various ta

Re: [Langcom] What is the smallest community that can support a wikipedia?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > There is little point at this time in a dictionary. With work going on for a > Wikidatification of Wiktionary it is a real bad investment. There is much > more to be gained by having books digitised. In a lot of cases, all of the books in

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for "on hold" status for [Wikipedia in] Bahraini Arabic

Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > I suggest marking the requiest for Wikipedia in Bahraini Arabic [1] on hold. > > Although it could be valid per se, there is a negative attitude > towards the language itself among the native speakers [2]. > > So, while the requ

Re: [Langcom] Campidanese Sardinian, suggesting eligibility

ally since interest in contributing to a separate project > has been very low: > https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/sro&wiki=incubatorwiki#Distribution > > 2017-01-20 14:09 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic : >> >> I suggest eligible statu

Re: [Langcom] Suggestion to reject the proposal for Wikipedia in Arwi

Rejected. On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:51 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > Agreed. > > 2017-01-20 12:22 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic : >> >> Arwi [1] is an Arabic script Tamil. While I tend to argue that there >> is a necessity to open a new project if we are not able to fulfill

Re: [Langcom] Suggesting rejection of the request for Wikipedia in Dalmatian

Rejected. On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > Agreed. > > 2017-01-21 15:08 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic : >> >> We have the second request for the Wikipedia in Dalmatian [1]. Unlike >> the first one [2], this is factually valid, as it's about the r

Re: [Langcom] Suggesting "on hold" status for [Wikipedia in] Ainu

The request has been put on hold. On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON > wrote: >> FYI, there is some effort to revitalise this language. The ethnologue.com >> numbers may be outdated as there is even a magaz

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