I received today this statement from apacer:
Betreff:
Fw: ADM write protection
Datum:
Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:49:00 +0800
Von:
"Sarah Hsieh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An:
"Manfred Schuler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dear customer,
I am very sorry for that not providin
Matt Schalit wrote:
> How about this one, Mike? It has write protect:
Some older mainboards had a certain BIOS Security menu
with a Write Protect All Sectors option to write protect
the whole ide drive. For example, the AOpen DX6G.
In addition to that, a Fujitsu IDE drive and a Micropolis
d
Matt Schalit wrote:
>
> How about this one, Mike? It has write protect:
And then there's Mite-Pc:
http://www.iptel-now.de/HOWTO/MITE-PC/mite-pc.html
Pretty neat.
Matt
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Matt Schalit wrote:
> How about this one, Mike? It has write protect:
http://www.m-sys.com/files/dataSheets/ffd/FFD_IDE_250_Spec.pdf
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On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 02:57:44PM -0800, Mike Sensney wrote:
> At 09:29 AM 2/8/2002 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
> ...
> >In other words, how many folks have said: "Can I run LEAF on a
> >harddrive (IDE)". We say, "you can, but it is a security risk compared
> >to a floppy". What would it mean to be
At 09:29 AM 2/8/2002 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
...
>In other words, how many folks have said: "Can I run LEAF on a
>harddrive (IDE)". We say, "you can, but it is a security risk compared
>to a floppy". What would it mean to be able to say: "You can use a hd,
>but if you want it as secure as the flo
Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> At 2002-02-08 12:57 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
> >On Friday 08 February 2002 13:00, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > > Lynn,
> > > You're not wrong. I just got off the phone with one of the tech
> > > support guys at SST. He sent me the schematic for the ADM device.
> > > They placed a r
On Friday 08 February 2002 13:10, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Lynn,
> Do you already have one of the ATA-Disk Modules? If so, where did
> you get it, and what did you pay for it?
No, Mike, I don't have one your not grasping the scope I see
here. I just tried it, but it doesn't work as expected ...
guitarlynn wrote:
>
> On Friday 08 February 2002 08:39, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> > Um...you won't find any standard motherboards that support the usage
> > of pin 30 for write-protect, and even if you could, it would probably
> > be controlled by software, not a switch, which kind of defeats
At 2002-02-08 12:57 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
>On Friday 08 February 2002 13:00, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > Lynn,
> > You're not wrong. I just got off the phone with one of the tech
> > support guys at SST. He sent me the schematic for the ADM device.
> > They placed a resister R-8 on the ADM that can b
On Friday 08 February 2002 13:00, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Lynn,
> You're not wrong. I just got off the phone with one of the tech
> support guys at SST. He sent me the schematic for the ADM device.
> They placed a resister R-8 on the ADM that can be shunted to ground
> to enable WP. He said this will
At 2002-02-08 11:51 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
>On Friday 08 February 2002 10:52, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > If I understand you correctly, you believe Apacer was telling
> > Stefaan that Host Selectable (Close 2,3) mode wasn't supported, not
> > that Connect to Ground (Close 1,2) didn't work. Since ther
On Friday 08 February 2002 10:52, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Lynn,
> If I understand you correctly, you believe Apacer was telling Stefaan
> that Host Selectable (Close 2,3) mode wasn't supported, not that
> Connect to Ground (Close 1,2) didn't work. Since there is no WP
> jumper on the ADM, we need to
At 2002-02-08 09:29 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
>As noted in the email and to a far lesser degree on the White
>paper, pin #30 _can_ be used with a special MB to control the WP, in
>particular with _partial_ software_named files/dirs to WP. The WP
>used with the pins #1-2 does not require the special
On Friday 08 February 2002 08:39, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> Um...you won't find any standard motherboards that support the usage
> of pin 30 for write-protect, and even if you could, it would probably
> be controlled by software, not a switch, which kind of defeats the
> whole purpose. That's
> Thanks for getting a definitive answer. Is Apacer willing to supply you
> with a list of motherboards that support ADM WP# pin 30? I suspect they
> wont be able to locate any. This is a good point to use when asking them
to
> implement the control logic in the ADM firmware.
Um...you won't find
At 2002-02-08 08:55 +0100, Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
>A message I just received from Apacer
>
>
>Dear Stefaan,
>
>More information on the WP function. Apacer product is programmable
>for WP. The WP pin is low active, so WP wll be activated whenever the
>pin is asserted low. The system board, howev
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Noyes
> Sent: vrijdag 8 februari 2002 1:40
> To: Matt Schalit; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] CF (write protect) + IDE adapter
>
>
>
> At 2002-02-07 14:12 -0800, Matt Schalit wrote:
> >Stefaan Van Dooren
Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> At 2002-02-07 14:12 -0800, Matt Schalit wrote:
> >Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
> > > The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least
> > > on the my modules it is).
> > >
> > > I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
> > >
> > > I will check th
At 2002-02-07 14:12 -0800, Matt Schalit wrote:
>Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
> > The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least
> > on the my modules it is).
> >
> > I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
> >
> > I will check the manuals asap.
>
>Perhaps you have d
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Matt Schalit wrote:
> Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least on the my
> > modules it is).
> >
> > I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
> >
> > I will check the manuals asap.
> >
Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least on the my
> modules it is).
>
> I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
>
> I will check the manuals asap.
>
> Stefaan
Perhaps you have different modules. The one refer
On Thursday 07 February 2002 11:24, Mike Noyes wrote:
> At 2002-02-07 10:47 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
> >I just got word back from PQI, I should get a data sheet in a couple
> >of weeks. It won't be availiable until May though :(
> >
> >### snip ##3
> >Secure DOM is our
At 2002-02-07 10:47 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
>I just got word back from PQI, I should get a data sheet in a couple
>of weeks. It won't be availiable until May though :(
>
>### snip ##3
>Secure DOM is our latest DOM product; it also being asked by
>many of customers who
At 2002-02-07 17:59 +0100, arne @ loopback . org wrote:
>On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:41:33AM -0600, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> > No...this is not (easily) possible.
> >
> > The ATA interface is a complex combination of registers that
> > require read/write access to send commands and recieve sta
On Thursday 07 February 2002 10:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:41:33AM -0600, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> > To install a "write-protect device" between
> > the motherboard and an ATA device, you need something that
> > understands ATA at the application level, and retu
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:41:33AM -0600, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> > > This is the solution I was hoping for, but it looks like the ADM on
> board
> > > three pin jumper is for master/slave selection not WP#. :-(
> >
> > but shouldn't it be possible to build an adapter that is between the
> >
I just got word back from PQI, I should get a data sheet in a couple of
weeks. It won't be availiable until May though :(
### snip ##3
Dear Lynn
Yes, we are now ready to present the first model of our Secure Disk on
Module product; it will be formally launch to the
> > This is the solution I was hoping for, but it looks like the ADM on
board
> > three pin jumper is for master/slave selection not WP#. :-(
>
> but shouldn't it be possible to build an adapter that is between the
> motherboard and the ata disk that changes just this behaviour and loops
all
> oth
At 2002-02-07 17:20 +0100, arne @ loopback . org wrote:
>On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 08:06:47AM -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> > In other words, you need a custom motherboard/ata controller, to
> > support WP# pin 30.
> >
> > >I would suggest folks wanting to make use of this new ATA flash
> > >disk wit
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 08:06:47AM -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
> In other words, you need a custom motherboard/ata controller, to support
> WP# pin 30.
>
> >I would suggest folks wanting to make use of this new ATA flash disk
> >with write-enable wire a switch between pins one and two of the WP#
>
At 2002-02-07 09:47 -0600, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> > Would someone with some EE background look at the pdf below, and
> > explain to me in layman terms if it's possible to use WP# pin 30 on
> > standard motherboards.
> >
> > http://www.ssti.com/products/pdf/519-58SM-LM8-192-01.000-DS.pdf
>
>
> Would someone with some EE background look at the pdf below, and explain
to
> me in layman terms if it's possible to use WP# pin 30 on standard
motherboards.
>
> http://www.ssti.com/products/pdf/519-58SM-LM8-192-01.000-DS.pdf
The simple answer: No
More detailed explination:
Pin 30 is defined a
At 2002-02-07 15:59 +0100, Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
>The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least on
>the my modules it is).
>
>I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
>
>I will check the manuals asap.
Stefaan,
Thanks for looking into this, and correcting me.
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> Sent: donderdag 7 februari 2002 15:31
> To: Stefaan Van Dooren
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Leaf-devel] CF (write protect) + IDE adapter
>
>
>
> At 2002-02-07 09:35 +0100, Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
> > > Apacer is makin
At 2002-02-07 09:35 +0100, Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
> > Apacer is making a ATA-Disk Module (ADM) too.
> >
> > http://www.apacer.com/product/flash/f_adc.htm
> >
>
>These are working great (have several of them running), but they
>don't have writeprotect switch, jumper.
Stefaan,
This particular mo
> Jeff,
> Exactly. It's almost identical to the PQI DiskOnModule (DOM) product too.
> I'm still trying to get pricing information. From what I can tell the
> product came out in Oct, so the channel hasn't filled yet. Apacer
> is making
> a ATA-Disk Module (ADM) too.
>
> http://www.apacer.com/pro
At 2002-02-06 16:10 -0800, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
>On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > Lynn,
> > This looks like a winner. It claims Linux compatibility too.
> >
> > http://www.ssti.com/ata_disk/admbrief.pdf
>
>This looks like the same hardware I bought from Advantech a year ago,
>but my PCD-
At 2002-02-06 16:10 -0800, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
>On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> > Lynn,
> > This looks like a winner. It claims Linux compatibility too.
> >
> > http://www.ssti.com/ata_disk/admbrief.pdf
>
>This looks like the same hardware I bought from Advantech a year ago,
>but my PC
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Mike Noyes wrote:
> At 2002-02-06 11:21 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
> >I did find another interesting link though, pricing is very
> >nice too:
> >
> > http://www.ssti.com/news/news115.html
>
> Lynn,
> This looks like a winner. It claims Linux compatibility too.
>
> htt
Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> At 2002-02-06 11:21 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
> >I did find another interesting link though, pricing is very
> >nice too:
> >
> > http://www.ssti.com/news/news115.html
>
> Lynn,
> This looks like a winner. It claims Linux compatibility too.
>
> http://www.ssti.com/a
Jeff Newmiller wrote:
>
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, guitarlynn wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 06 February 2002 02:04, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
> > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, guitarlynn wrote:
> > > > Yes, a product to keep me from cutting tiny toggle switches into
> > > > those blasted IDE cables would be a godsen
At 2002-02-06 11:21 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
>I did find another interesting link though, pricing is very
>nice too:
>
> http://www.ssti.com/news/news115.html
Lynn,
This looks like a winner. It claims Linux compatibility too.
http://www.ssti.com/ata_disk/admbrief.pdf
I don't think I wan
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 10:56, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, guitarlynn wrote:
> > I'll give it a try, I need to do some soldering today anyway!
> > You bit, I will too.
>
> The reason I bit was that in theory this should not work.
Your right, my BIOS won't acknowledge the di
At 2002-02-06 08:56 -0800, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
>On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, guitarlynn wrote:
> >
> > It wouldn't be much trouble for me to try this if your really
> > interested though. A less frustrating way of trying would be to
> > wack a piece out of wire #23 and simply switch to another cable
> >
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, guitarlynn wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 February 2002 02:04, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, guitarlynn wrote:
> > > Yes, a product to keep me from cutting tiny toggle switches into
> > > those blasted IDE cables would be a godsend! I can live with the CF
> > > cards
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 02:04, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, guitarlynn wrote:
> > Yes, a product to keep me from cutting tiny toggle switches into
> > those blasted IDE cables would be a godsend! I can live with the CF
> > cards nicely though for the time being (if I can get o
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, guitarlynn wrote:
> On Saturday 02 February 2002 10:33, Mike Noyes wrote:
[...]
> > I'd really like to see PQI add a write protect switch to their 40 pin
> > DOM products.
[...]
> Yes, a product to keep me from cutting tiny toggle switches into those
> blasted IDE cables would
On Sunday 03 February 2002 11:09, guitarlynn wrote:
> I prefer the 44-pin products because many of the 486 and P1 products
> limit the floppy BIOS to 1.44M. Using the 44-pin bus ensures that
> there will be no problems at all, IMHO.
CORRECTION
The 40-pin is regular IDE connection, the 44-pin
On Sunday 03 February 2002 07:07, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Make sure you talk to the people at PC Engines. They may need to make
> some changes to their adapter to accommodate the write protect
> function of the PQI CF card.
>
> PQI Write Protect Compact Flash Card Compatibility
> http://www.pqi.com.tw
At 2002-02-03 00:52 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
>On Saturday 02 February 2002 10:33, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > Everyone,
> > It looks like we may finally have a write protect CF+IDE solution.
>
>HEY, HEY, HEY (Lynn does a happy-dance!!!).
>Thank-you Mike! (wiggle, wiggle)
>
>
> > CFDISK.5B $12
On Saturday 02 February 2002 10:33, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Everyone,
> It looks like we may finally have a write protect CF+IDE solution.
HEY, HEY, HEY (Lynn does a happy-dance!!!).
Thank-you Mike! (wiggle, wiggle)
> CFDISK.5B $12 each (OEM: $6 each + $50/lot)
> http://www.pcengines.com
Everyone,
It looks like we may finally have a write protect CF+IDE solution.
CFDISK.5B $12 each (OEM: $6 each + $50/lot)
http://www.pcengines.com/testordr.htm
Write Protect Compact Flash Card
http://www.pqi.com.tw/pqi-eng/product/flash-card/wpcf.htm
I'd really like to see PQI add a write prot
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