On 20 January 2012 13:56, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com wrote:
Ps. Did anyone know that our own Mr Dingle is a renowned scientist? Just
saw he won another prize for one of his books.
Not that renowned. He isn't on Wikipedia.
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On 19 Jan 2012, at 16:52, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.com wrote:
The last lineIf you take away hope and ambition from your fans, what's left?
Basically sums up in one sentence , the feeling
You guys need to understand what supernormal profits mean;
http://economicsonline.co.uk/Business_economics/Profits.html
I would expect that with football club subsidiaries they would expect to be
making supernormal profits in order to feed back to the club.
Let me be clear - if you take all
I think not.
I am arguing that all NORMAL profits should remain in the subsidiary
businesses, however SUPERNORMAL (aka excess) profits could and should go back
to the football club. Now, whether that money is spent on Howsons second
Ferrari, or re-stocking the prawn sarnies for the corporate
Delph in.
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PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Howson out.
Interesting article here, specifically News of the Premier League side's
interest appealed to Howson and the midfielder made it clear that with his
contract up in the summer, he would not sign a new deal.
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumo
Nope, sorry - Super-normal Profits are profits made under 'not normal'
circumstances, they are profits that one can't imagine being sustained for a
long period hence they are super-normal.
Super-normal does not fit with the profits of the business models we are
discussing.
In businesses, like
In short touched up and manipulated.
He should never have been in this predicament born of MS crass greed
SG inadequacies.
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Delph may be an 'upgrade' but that depends on whether he has progressed since
he left us - a serious injury and failure to hold down a place may mean that he
is not as good as we were hoping he would be. Having said that he is more
mature physically and now has a reasonable amount of Prem
In short touched up and manipulated.
He should never have been in this predicament born of MS crass greed
SG inadequacies.
Tell me again, what are SG's inadequacies?
That he can't turn a bunch of no mark journeymen into a side capable of
consistently outperforming about half a dozen sides in
I love the quote from Alex McCarthy on the eve of his return to ER - this time
playing against us !!
The Town keeper said: “I loved every minute at Leeds. I said at the time that
they’re the biggest club I’ve played for and I meant it.“You can sense the
expectation of the supporters but it’s
Well with all this dm and glooom predicated ,I recon we will have a
stunning win on Saturday and everything will be fine, back for play off
place/// , Hopefully Delph if playing will give 100% ,we will also soon have
another USA International Robbin Roy Rogers and his mate Trigger . SG
Bates doesn't want Leeds to be successful,
why would he? He wants to see us moronic animals suffer and what a
bloody good job he's doing. He's even manipulated you into directing
your ire toward one of us in SG.
As much as I loathe Bates as a Human Being and as a businessman I don't
believe he
Well with all this dm and glooom predicated ,I recon we will have a
stunning win on Saturday and everything will be fine, back for play off
place/// , Hopefully Delph if playing will give 100% ,we will also soon
have another USA International Robbin Roy Rogers and his mate Trigger .
SG
Well with all this dm and glooom predicated ,I recon we will have a
stunning win on Saturday and everything will be fine, back for play off
place/// , Hopefully Delph if playing will give 100% ,we will also soon
have another USA International Robbin Roy Rogers and his mate Trigger
or Delph
I was stretching the pure economic definition of supernormal profit, but I
think you well know what I am getting at.
A subsidiary should expect to manage its own affairs and have first call on
its normal operating profits. Especially when that business is still being
developed, as it would be
Its only 28 days.
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Delph may be an 'upgrade' but that depends on whether he
Defense
Man management
Lousy buys
What more would you like?
I thin that the opposite is true -- because of the anger at MS we are not
seeing how truly useless Grayson is.
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Let's wait and see with Delph.
It's a fucking Chutzpah that after flogging of our Captain he brings back
the guy he got millions for and pocketed as a paupers loan.
Talk about rubbing our noses in it?
The MFMS just goes to new heights of insults.
Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist
Defense
Man management
Lousy buys
I'm not saying you are necessarily wrong but: -
Defence - only as good as the players at his disposal which apart from the kids
are someone elses cast offs
Man management - crap contract offers are unlikely to have a positive effect on
morale
Lousy Buys
Yeah, it is almost like the contract offers aren't actually crap. Weird.
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Lousy
Lousy Buys - you can only buy what you can afford and who wants to come,
considering the crap contract offers to current players it's a wonder we
sign anyone at all
Crap, or just championship standard? We cannot compete with a premiership
contract offer.
Who've we lost in the past
I tink it's a really good move to get him back, but I am daydreaming about
Delph, Clayton and Howson in there together.
An interesting read that Howson had decided not to sign again in the summer. If
this is fact then 2million is a good price. Will Delph's wages swallow this?
If we end up
An interesting read that Howson had decided not to sign again in the
summer. If this is fact then 2million is a good price. Will Delph's
wages swallow this?
I'd eat my hat if we got £2m for an injured player who is out of contract in
the Summer.
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Crap, or just championship standard? We cannot compete with a premiership
contract offer.
Who've we lost in the past couple of seasons?
Howson - to prem club
Johnson - to prem club
Beckford - to prem club
Delph - to prem club
Plus
Schmeichel - to sugardaddy-funded championship
To be fair to Grayson, there were numerous loanees who came in and did
really well, and whom we were all keen for us to buy, but after we did they
either became very inconsistent, or just dropped the level of their
performance.
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Former QPR boss Neil Warnock could happily retire and fund his tractor
habit with the occasional spot of TV punditry. But if football were a drug,
Warnock would need a long stay in rehab and the *Life’s A Pitch* panel
reckons he’ll be back soon, possibly at Nottingham Forest, Leeds United or
Yeah, it is almost like the contract offers aren't actually crap. Weird.
It doesn't really matter whether you think they are crap or not.
The players seem to think they can get better elsewhere and invariably they
have.
If the players feel the offer is well below what they are worth it is
Or perhaps the mindset of those leaving is that they just want to play football
in a happier environment?
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Or in the world famous Premier League?
Just a thought...
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Subject: Re: [LU] Midfielder upgrade part 2
Or perhaps the mindset
Or in the world famous Premier League?
And so we come full circle, these are young men whose own personal ambitions
are not matched by the owner of Leeds United.
One can only imagine why that would be but hey In Ken We Trust, eh?
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Or young men whose advisors' financial demands cannot be matched by Leeds
United.
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Ok, I should have said
Or in the world famous Premier League as soon as humanly possible...
Howson was in the U21 squad, he clearly thinks if he is in the premier
league then he has a chance of the full squad.
Paul, if he was playing for Leicester, who most definitely are
overstretching
Ok, I should have said
Or in the world famous Premier League as soon as humanly possible...
Howson was in the U21 squad, he clearly thinks if he is in the premier
league then he has a chance of the full squad.
And he's probably right, what you're missing is that 18 months ago when we
PRESS RELEASE: Supporters Trust campaign for regime change at the club
Friday, January 20, 2012 at 4:25PM
The Leeds United Supporters Trust today calls for the Chairman and board of
Leeds United to actively look to sell the club to owners whose ambitions and
resources more appropriately reflect
I am sure he did feel confident we would be challenging for promotion.
Challenging for promotion doesn't mean gaining promotion by a very very long
(dover cliffs style) chalk.
Whilst I don't know the lad, I suspect Howson has not been interested in
signing a contract until/unless it was a Premier
Just what we need to attract new players in Jan and push on for a promotion.
Great timing boys. I am sure Bates will do as you ask.
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Sent: 20 January 2012 16:42
To:
Just what we need to attract new players in Jan and push on for a
promotion.
B@stard, you just made me spit out my coffee.
I'd no idea you could be so funny.
Push on for promotion? Look out Peter Kay there's a new comedian in town.
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I am sure he did feel confident we would be challenging for promotion.
Challenging for promotion doesn't mean gaining promotion by a very very
long
(dover cliffs style) chalk.
In case you hadn't noticed we aren't challenging for promotion, we are
barely challenging for the play offs.
And
And with supporter attitudes like that, no wonder everyone wants out.
For the record, Delph is better than Howson, the team was doing ok when
Howson was playing, so I think Snoddy/Delph/Clayton/Townsend is probably the
best midfield we have had for a LONG time.
Garlic? Bread?
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Peaceful? The guy wants dragging through the streets!
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On 20 Jan 2012, at 16:42, Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com wrote:
PRESS RELEASE: Supporters Trust campaign for regime change at the club
Friday, January 20, 2012 at 4:25PM
The Leeds United Supporters Trust today calls
Did YOU actually read it?
Where does it say that the higher prices mean the club will be able to pay
PREMIER LEAGUE WAGES? That's your (foolish) interpretation, and goes
against everything he has ever said about wages since he bought the club.
And I quote He also said that the income generated
Delph was better than Howson 2 years ago. God knows what he is like now after
those injuries.
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Subject: Re:
And with supporter attitudes like that, no wonder everyone wants out.
For the record, Delph is better than Howson, the team was doing ok when
Howson was playing, so I think Snoddy/Delph/Clayton/Townsend is probably
the
best midfield we have had for a LONG time.
Cool so that's the next 6
Whenever I have seen him play for AV this season, he seems to be getting
around the pitch as much as he used to, and you don't lose skills when you
get injured.
Im hoping the injury has made him modify the way he used to tackle - it
always made me wince.
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18 points to play for.
And assuming he goes back at the end of that loan period.
Anyway, if he does go back after a month, Im sure the positive attitude from
the likes of you will push us on.
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Anyway, if he does go back after a month, Im sure the positive attitude
from
the likes of you will push us on.
What is there to be positive about?
We've sold our player of the year and now our captain and we all have to be
grateful to Cuddly Ken who has sworn not to rest until this club and
Where does it say that the higher prices mean the club will be able to pay
PREMIER LEAGUE WAGES? That's your (foolish) interpretation, and goes
against everything he has ever said about wages since he bought the club.
Did I ever mention WAGES?
I think you'll find that was your foolish
Robbie Rogers says he's delighted to arrive at Elland Road and excited for his
move to Norwich in 2014. #lufc #twitterwhites #leeds
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mind. Why did Blackwell get backed by the MS?
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On 20 Jan 2012, at 13:22, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
wrote:
Well with all this dm and glooom predicated ,I recon we will have
How many Rogers do we need?
Seven years of one is quite enough thank you!
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On 20 Jan 2012, at 21:14, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote:
Robbie Rogers says he's delighted to arrive at Elland Road and excited for
Please send us all the wages breakdown of the squad, this season and last,
so we are all as in the know as you are.
I dunno, for some reason people seem to think loan signings from PL clubs
and/or free transfers cost us nothing. And we had no choice in selling Max,
just like we have no choice in
Don't give up the day job Mikey!
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On 20 Jan 2012, at 19:18, Dr. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.com wrote:
How many Rogers do we need?
Seven years of one is quite enough thank you!
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On 20 Jan
I think you'll find this is his day Job Ian!
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Don't give up the day job Mikey!
Speaking to a Columbus Crew fan here in Mid West Wasteland (I believe that was
a Mission song?) he said that Rogers is fast and skillful, but erratic.
Sounds depressingly familiar.
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Started with a bit about Betty, but then goes onto to list reminiscing
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Please send us all the wages breakdown of the squad, this season and last,
so we are all as in the know as you are.
No need, Ken tells us he's running the club prudently and the club must
therefore be, at least, breaking even.
It follows then that any funds raised from player sales must be
Its got fuck all to do with season ticket renewals.
As I said in a previous post, if you don't enjoy your day out, don't go.. if
you do, go.
Whatever you personally decide to do wont make any difference to how Bates
operates, or protests, or anything else. If you have learned nothing else
since
If we were challenging for auto, then he would have stayed - he's gone because
bates wants the money
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On 20 Jan 2012, at 20:19, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:
Its got fuck all to do with season ticket renewals.
As I said in a previous post, if you
Its got fuck all to do with season ticket renewals.
It's got everything to do with Season Ticket renewals! That's why the club
were p'd off that the Howson story broke so early.
I'm sure if they'd been able to they would have suppressed this story until
the very last minute.
As I said in a
Did everyone catch the below? It means that you DO NOT need to retain ANY
profits in a business for it to continue to operate effectively and
profitably.
The purpose of a business (usually) is to make money for the owners, and
that money comes from distributing the profits or by selling the
Abso-fcking-lutely. Norwich are smarter than that. More likely drop a zero.
KB strategy is to get something for an asset that is valued at zero in 4
months time.
It is all business to him. He couldn't give a stuff who it is.
On 21 January 2012 02:13, Richard Naef
Looks like low risk planning to me. Get him in, see if he is crocked or
not. If he is, send him back. If not, try tim sign him.
Looks sensible. We should be supporting this.
On 21 January 2012 05:36, Paul Cundell p...@cundell.com wrote:
And with supporter attitudes like that, no wonder
Should fit in well then.
Let's at least give the newboys/returnees a chance to prove they deserve to
wear the shirt before dismissing them.
On 21 January 2012 06:51, Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com wrote:
Speaking to a Columbus Crew fan here in Mid West Wasteland (I believe that
was a
Hate to p on your bonfire but there ain't a snowballs chance in hell of us
signing him, we've got him to bring him back to match fitness for Villa.
This was intended to be a PR ploy to get ST holders to renew, unfortunately
someone spoiled the party by leaking the Howson story.
I'm sure you're
Good one!
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On 20 Jan 2012, at 22:44, Alec McQueen alec...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like low risk planning to me. Get him in, see if he is crocked or
not. If he is, send him back. If not, try tim sign him.
Looks sensible. We should be supporting this.
On 21 January
But boss Grayson, who is under pressure following a run of one win in six
games, said: “It is the right decision for everybody.
“I spoke with Jonny when the offer came in and he’s always made it clear he
wants to play Premier League football.
“He wanted to do that here, and while it is what we
I think Grayson did the right thing. He's got no option really.
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On 21 Jan 2012, at 16:23, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote:
But boss Grayson, who is under pressure following a run of one win in six
games, said: “It is the right decision for everybody.
“I
Its not a question of staying or not, it's a question of signing a new
contract, and I don't think he would have - and that seems to be confirmed
by ALL the reports we are seeing.
Still, you continue to blame Bates.
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Yes he has...
Resign
The money has not be and will not be used for replacements.
Not only does he know it but, by his own admission, he facilitates the
process
How long do we have to put with this crap:-
We are not wealthy enough to offer contracts when we compete with anyone
who is not a
Desperation - he even mentioned that Howson was currently injured as another
justification for his transfer -what a joke. NO AMBITION.
BATES OUT !
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On 21 Jan 2012, at 05:53, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote:
But boss Grayson, who is under pressure following a run of
An unequalled seven of Leeds' 40 Championship goals have been netted in
stoppage time.
Ipswich have conceded an unequalled six Championship goals in stoppage time.
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So, 0-1 today. In stoppage time.
On 21 Jan 2012, at 07:16, Sutton / Smail dsm...@dsmail.plus.com wrote:
An unequalled seven of Leeds' 40 Championship goals have been netted in
stoppage time.
Ipswich have conceded an unequalled six Championship goals in stoppage time.
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