Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 7:13 AM andyjim wrote: On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 3:43:08 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> A zettel thought experiment. >> ... >> So in about five minutes we have wandered from a dinner recipe to paleo >> history to philosophical questions about the meaning and

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 8:13:09 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 3:43:08 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> A zettel thought experiment. >> ... >> So in about five minutes we have wandered from a dinner recipe to paleo >> history to philosophical questions about

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 3:43:08 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > A zettel thought experiment. > ... > So in about five minutes we have wandered from a dinner recipe to paleo > history to philosophical questions about the meaning and stability of > sensory perceptions. We've actually come

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:13 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > BTW, with Restructured Text your zettels can have note boxes, sidebars, > and tables that render well. See the attached screen shots. > Nifty. Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

A zettel thought experiment. I ran through an imaginary scenario for using a ZK, once it's populated. I based this on how I use my bookmark manager. Note that my bookmark collection does not actually have some of these headings and bookmarks. *I have a piece of cod to cook for dinner (

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 12:10:38 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > [snip] > And if the system extracts the title for the heading, perhaps I need to > copy the title into the 'body', below. Or it could even differ from the > heading if there is any reason to do that. Can you have multiple

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 12:10:38 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > In the example you posted, "Salmon with Whole Lemon Dressing" is the > heading, and also the title in the rendered pane. But in the body pane, > what follows the id is "Salmon Lemon Dressing", so the rendered title is > the

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 12:10:38 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 10:07:00 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> The line of "=" characters marks a section break, the text in brackets >> becomes the title, and the date speaks for itself. The number of "=" >>

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 10:07:00 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > The line of "=" characters marks a section break, the text in brackets > becomes the title, and the date speaks for itself. The number of "=" > characters in a line doesn't matter as long as 1) the line starts with an >

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 11:13:24 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 9:07:09 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> We've got that by means of the Leo outline structure. The proximity and >> nesting of the Leo nodes fills exactly the same function. >> > > Somehow I

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 9:07:09 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > We've got that by means of the Leo outline structure. The proximity and > nesting of the Leo nodes fills exactly the same function. > Somehow I don't see it as quite the same thing. The outline structure is hierarchical

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 10:07:00 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: [snip] > I used this format to index the file for a full text search engine > (Lucene). I like the format because it is easy to type, easy to read, and > easy to parse. Note that this is an actual fragment from one of my

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 9:39:07 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 8:57:30 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 10:54:59 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: >>> >>> And already I see that I could use a command to slap a UID into an >>> already

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 9:26:17 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > So you will need to have some degree of consistency in the syntax and > planning of what you write and in your working procedures. > Yes, I am aware that the different elements of the zettel must conform strictly to

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 10:54:59 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > I've begun to use it. > > [snip] This is quite a mind dump, and I am very hard to get along with. Oh well, > hopefully some of this is stimulating/amusing at worst and maybe a little > of it possibly useful at best. > It can

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 10:54:59 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > [snip] > > Eventually I hope, at least my vision hopes, to 'run the show' from inside > the zettels. For example, I prep an external (or it can be an already > imported file) for the leokasten and turn the parser loose on it.

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 8:32:14 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 10:54:59 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: >> >> >> I think Zettelkasten people tend to say the automated UID system plus the >> tags system fulfills the purpose of this, but I don't think it does. ... >> The

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 10:54:59 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > I've begun to use it. > And already I see that I could use a command to slap a UID into an already > existing zettel that doesn't yet have one. I can do it (and have done it) > by making a new zettel and copy-pasting the body of

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 10:54:59 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > I think Zettelkasten people tend to say the automated UID system plus the > tags system fulfills the purpose of this, but I don't think it does. ... > The branched threads represented stepwise, connected thoughts, while the >

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

I've begun to use it. And already I see that I could use a command to slap a UID into an already existing zettel that doesn't yet have one. I can do it (and have done it) by making a new zettel and copy-pasting the body of the old one to the new one, then delete the old, but that's a bit

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 7:13:31 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 11:36:00 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> I changed the hot keys to Ctrl+F8. Ctrl+F7, Ctrl+F6. They don't seem to >> conflict with either the OS hot keys, or Leo key assignments. According to >>

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 11:36:00 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > I changed the hot keys to Ctrl+F8. Ctrl+F7, Ctrl+F6. They don't seem to > conflict with either the OS hot keys, or Leo key assignments. According to > what @Austin(Xu)Wang wrote above, you might have to edit them to use

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

I changed the hot keys to Ctrl+F8. Ctrl+F7, Ctrl+F6. They don't seem to conflict with either the OS hot keys, or Leo key assignments. According to what @Austin(Xu)Wang wrote above, you might have to edit them to use "Meta" instead of "Ctrl". I also fixed a bug I hadn't known about for the

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 12:36:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > The commands work on linux (and I was able to remove some unnecessary > code). The problem seems to be that Linux intercepts Alt-F8 and Alt-F7 for > its own purposes (like resizing a window). Presumably it's more or less

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

I tried to figure out which key is "Alt" on Mac, but never find out. The "Command" key is catched as Ctrl, the "Control" and "Option" key are all catched as Meta on my MacBook. Thomas Passin 于2020年3月1日周日 下午12:36写道： > > > On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 11:02:07 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 11:02:07 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > I don't have a mac, but I installed the commands on a linux version -- I'm > running one in a virtual machine. It doesn't work there, either. This is > a shock to me - everything in the code should work no matter

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 8:01:42 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 11:30:58 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> Paste the code above into this new node. The new node has be a child of >> an @settings node in either your MyLeoSettings.leo file or your

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 8:36:29 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > This one is easy to adjust. You would put another setting into > MyLeoSettings.py with the time format you want. If you like, myself or > someone could write down the string format for your particular format. The >

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 11:30:58 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > Paste the code above into this new node. The new node has be a child of > an @settings node in either your MyLeoSettings.leo file or your ZK leo > file, so move it as needed. Then reload the settings. The hot-key

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 9:59:33 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > [snip] > On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 12:28:27 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > I think that's the solution for my use case. If, for example, as in The > Archive, Command-N (no matter where I am at the moment) creates a

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 12:28:27 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > From my reading, he immediately numbered it. Then he added links to other > likely zettels. And then he got into the writing. He didn't write these > slips quickly, but only after mulling over temporary notes he

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 11:28:37 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > Also realized I don't have to title it until I'm darn good and ready. And > I don't have to ID it and time stamp it before writing either. I can do > those later as well. > That's exactly right. For myself, I don't like

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 10:29:54 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > In Thomas Passin's prototype, which I downloaded, 1st he types a title > heading, 2nd a @rst subheading, with title (for Sphinx, which is fine), 3rd > a @path heading, with title, 4th a @rst subheading, again with title, and

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 8:31:34 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > Here's what I've been doing, and I find it very unobtrusive. I create a > new node where I want it, using the usual -I. Of course, I type in > the node's name as usual. Then -F8, -F7. I hardly notice I'm > doing

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 5:52:09 AM UTC-5, Marcel Franke wrote: > > I have a function bind to a key doing that and can confirm, it's very > useful to have a new entry generated and focused instantly. > I also let it search the proper node in the my prefered leo-file, so it > will always

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 10:47:05 AM UTC-5, Marcel Franke wrote: > > Something you may be interessted for this: > > new = c.insertChild() > new.b = f'{id_label}{time_string}' > > I'm not sure about about focus on the title in this case, as I removed > this. But this should

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 15:19:38 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Passin: It's not about storage, it's about reducing visual clutter in the text. > Understandable. I have that problem too. Im thinking about moving my metadata to p.v.u and adding a metadata-widget on the editor-side to not forget

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 5:37:53 AM UTC-5, Marcel Franke wrote: > > > Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 02:11:20 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Passin: > > BTW Using "created" instead of "timestamp" would be more >>> self-documentating. >>> >> >> That's up in the air for me. Should it represent the

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 8:49:45 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:51:42 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > >> Sorry to bring it up again, but one of the key things for me is to be >> able to launch a new zettel in an instant, without required steps before I

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:51:42 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > Sorry to bring it up again, but one of the key things for me is to be > able to launch a new zettel in an instant, without required steps before I > can start writing. I am suspicious that if I have to type in three or

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:51:42 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > . Personally, though American, I have gotten used to the European date > format: YYMMDD and have come to prefer it. I've used it in filenames as > well as internally in files for about five years now (actually I hyphenate

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:51:42 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > Another ugly and inconvenient question: Are you contemplating a command to > automate starting a new zettel (is it ok to use that term for the time > being? I gather you plan to find a new term.)? Sorry to bring it up

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 04:51:42 UTC+1 schrieb andyjim: Another ugly and inconvenient question: Are you contemplating a command to > automate starting a new zettel (is it ok to use that term for the time > being? I gather you plan to find a new term.)? Sorry to bring it up again, > but

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 02:11:20 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Passin: I think the capabilities of the Nav tab will go a long way. > True, there is also that. I always forget it, because it's so bad UX. BTW Using "created" instead of "timestamp" would be more self-documentating. >> > > That's up

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:11:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > That's up in the air for me. Should it represent the creation time or the > last-modified time? @AndyJim sounded like he'd like to use a last-modified > time, because he likes to see what he was working on at a

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:31:57 AM UTC-5, Marcel Franke wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 15:46:04 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Passin: > > But in general you are not wrong here. Leo Editor can be used that way, >>> even though it's not be the best for this. But it's not the worst

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

> > any workflow must be forged by the user themself over a long time. > Yes! It does help to start with capable and flexible tools that don't get in the way too much. Though this can be challenging as what counts as capable and flexible for each individual is quite varied. This is why I

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 15:46:04 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Passin: But in general you are not wrong here. Leo Editor can be used that way, >> even though it's not be the best for this. But it's not the worst either. >> It depends on how you polish it and yourself. Using Leo in a way to copy

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 9:32:08 AM UTC-5, Marcel Franke wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 23:50:11 UTC+1 schrieb andyjim: > > But in general you are not wrong here. Leo Editor can be used that way, > even though it's not be the best for this. But it's not the worst either. > It

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Am Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 23:50:11 UTC+1 schrieb andyjim: I must frankly admit that the only reason I am barking up the zettelkasten > tree is that I have failed to run across a better system > You never played with Wikis? Or generally Hypertext? though of course not a replica of

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Very relevant here are the repeated remarks in "Taking Smart Notes" - I have my copy now - that more important then slip-case details are how you take, write, and interconnect the slips. It is that work that really makes all the difference. With that in mind, I really want to start with a

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 5:24:19 AM UTC-5, Marcel Franke wrote: > > > Yes, for some reasons there is a cargo-cult growing around Luhmann and > his knowledge-system. > Which is kinda strange, as it's really not that special and we today have > many better systems in use. > I really

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Am Dienstag, 25. Februar 2020 17:33:10 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Passin: All right; I've not seen the term "zettelkasten" applied to systems before > Luhmann's got publicised. > Well, I can't speak for the etymology of the word. It's even in germany not the most popular usage for this word

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

There is something *very* much like the Zettelkasten addressing scheme in Ted Nelson's Xanadu project. Tumblers. If ZK used numbers only and not alpha, and made the scope the entire 'docuverse' ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumbler_%28Project_Xanadu%29 On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 5:55:36 AM UTC-5, Marcel Franke wrote: > > > > Am Dienstag, 25. Februar 2020 02:37:13 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Passin: > > Note: Luhmann was the inventer of the zettelkasten. >> > > Ok, just for clarification: No he was not. Zettelkasten is a german word > for a box

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Am Dienstag, 25. Februar 2020 02:37:13 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Passin: Note: Luhmann was the inventer of the zettelkasten. > Ok, just for clarification: No he was not. Zettelkasten is a german word for a box (=kasten) of paperslips (=zettel). It's pretty common tool. People before Luhmann used

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Am Montag, 24. Februar 2020 20:28:05 UTC+1 schrieb andyjim: > I'm still wondering exactly how Luhmann's indexing played out. > He used manual maintained index-cards of keywords. Just big lists of keywords with reference-numbers which he used a startingpoint to dig into a topic. You can

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Wondering what Luhmann's original zettel cards looked like? This page has a photo of one - https://emvi.com/blog/luhmanns-zettelkasten-a-productivity-tool-that-works-like-your-brain-N9Gd2G4aPv Notice that he wrote the links in a different color. The card seems to be mostly a collection of

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 2:28:05 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:05:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> Granted, you can't easily get a listing of all the tags - until we have a >> zettelkasten plugin that can create one - but you could maintain a

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 12:41:47 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 9:38:53 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > >> >> I decided to have the link meta-lines have optional labels, because they >> help you know which links goes where. In the older paper-based

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 7:46 AM Thomas Passin wrote: > > > Is TM4J your bookmark manager? Is there a web link? >> > > Yes, that's right. There's only a link to an obsolete version that I > wouldn't recommend. I have to do some work on it to package it up so other > people can use it. For

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:05:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Granted, you can't easily get a listing of all the tags - until we have a > zettelkasten plugin that can create one - but you could maintain a zettel > that only contains the tag names. It would be almost as good. >

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 9:38:53 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > I decided to have the link meta-lines have optional labels, because they > help you know which links goes where. In the older paper-based system, > identifiers generally looked like [...] > > Using an optional label

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 8:51:40 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: >> >> >> Excellent. Working code (or in this case, a working outline), is worth >> gazillions of words and requirements :-) Much easier to

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Here is the code for the command that I mentioned before, to go to a node and insert a backlink in the target node. I put this code into an @setting node with the headline: @command zettel-goto-node @key=Alt+F6 The @setting node goes into the myLeoSettings.leo file. This code could use a bit

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > Excellent. Working code (or in this case, a working outline), is worth > gazillions of words and requirements :-) Much easier to understand. > Often, yes, but a good set of requirements can help you to keep your eye

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 8:21:33 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 9:47:41 PM UTC-6, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Attached is the Leo file for my little zettelkasten. It includes >> @settings nodes for the commands and keyboard shortcuts for inserting the

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 1:05 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > Bingo! I had a brainstorm. Now I know how we can use Leo to write text > zettels, have them organized in a tree of files on disk - for almost no > effort - and then use them in my bookmark manager. We can have - right > now, today -

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 9:47:41 PM UTC-6, Thomas Passin wrote: Attached is the Leo file for my little zettelkasten. It includes @settings > nodes for the commands and keyboard shortcuts for inserting the node id and > timestamp. > This is excellent. The overall looks like a good

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 7:09:33 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > With the command to add a backlink, I would say that we have a working > zettelkasten system that has essentially all the features of the original > paper system, with better searching and reorganizing abilities. > I

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 7:09:33 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > So I say we're ready to rock and roll! > Wonderful! Didn't expect z-day anything like so soon. I look forward to starting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

With the command to add a backlink, I would say that we have a working zettelkasten system that has essentially all the features of the original paper system, with better searching and reorganizing abilities. 1. Zettels (notes) that include an ID and links, including backlinks. 2. Although the

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 10:11:51 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > I have developed two commands that insert the node id and current > timestamp into the zettel. I'm already using them in my little experimental > zettelkasten. The results look like this: > > :id:

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 9:26:11 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > ... I also need to learn about Leo tags. And start learning some RsT and > write some zettels at least for testing. > One simple way to get tags is to simply include a line or lines like this in the zettel node: :tag:

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 10:11:51 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > I will attach my zettelkasten outline in another post as a guide to > creating a structure that works on its own and also with the bookmarks > manager. > Attached is the Leo file for my little zettelkasten. It

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 9:26:11 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > I look forward to getting into this. So on the Leo side I need to start > setting up a heading structure. I also need to learn about Leo tags. And > start learning some RsT and write some zettels at least for testing. > >

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

I look forward to getting into this. So on the Leo side I need to start setting up a heading structure. I also need to learn about Leo tags. And start learning some RsT and write some zettels at least for testing. It's looking interesting. -- You received this message because you are

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Bingo! I had a brainstorm. Now I know how we can use Leo to write text zettels, have them organized in a tree of files on disk - for almost no effort - and then use them in my bookmark manager. We can have - right now, today - enough of zettelkasten functionality to start actually trying it

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 9:37:43 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:35:05 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> > > 3. I *think* that by using Firefox, you can use the manager

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 9:56:45 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:19:33 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> Cool! That's one thing about Leo - it can do so many things, but it can >> be hard to discover them. Maybe a zettelkasten? >> > > Yes!

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 9:37:43 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:35:05 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> >> I've been spending some time with my bookmark manager again, >> >> Thomas, is your bookmarks manager available to 'the general public'? I

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:19:33 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > Cool! That's one thing about Leo - it can do so many things, but it can be > hard to discover them. Maybe a zettelkasten? > Yes! Zettelkasten is a bottom-up, self-organizing, multi-faceted

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:35:05 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > I've been spending some time with my bookmark manager again, > > Thomas, is your bookmarks manager available to 'the general public'? I am terrible with bookmarks. No organization at all, and (after taking up

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

The "clone find" family (clone find flat seems more popular) of commands achieves this without the need for new functionality. If you wanted "everything else to disappear" you could hoist the parent node created by "clone find". Personally I find hoisting to have somewhat limited utility, it

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 10:10:03 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > @Thomas I found the command that allows you to break zettels out of an > imported file. In the body you select the lines you want, hit > shift-Command-D and it splits your selection out into a new node (under the > parent

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Picking up in this thread - On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:11:21 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > It appears you are casting your net beyond Leo a bit too, in case there is > something out there that does almost all of what we want. Brain? > MindForge? Let me know what you find. I was unable

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

Thanks for introducing us (me!) to Zettelkasten. The Zettlelkasten.de Overview page seems to be a better than average guide to their world, and the Tools page has a curated list of implementations. I like that their first

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

I'm a journaler, a note-taker, not a programmer. I've looked for years for the right organizer for notes. I now think Zettelkasten is it, but haven't found a Zettelkasten program that seems adequate. I'm a very raw beginner with Leo, but I'll venture that Leo would be the perfect platform for