Re: Diagnose high wait

2017-04-24 Thread Barton Robinson
On our website, "http://velocitysoftware.com/present/flowchrt.html; , there is a performance analysis flow chart. When there is wait, it is MOST often not related to the linux server, it is MOST likely to be related to resource constraints that the server just happens to be using (cpu,

Re: CPU Steal on Linux Guest

2016-12-22 Thread Barton Robinson
Of Barton Robinson Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 7:53 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: CPU Steal on Linux Guest How much of your IFLs are in use by the other LPAR(s)? On 12/19/2016 2:19 PM, Victor Echavarry Diaz wrote: Can someone explain why CPU steal is? We believe that when the VM

Re: CPU Steal on Linux Guest

2016-12-19 Thread Barton Robinson
How much of your IFLs are in use by the other LPAR(s)? On 12/19/2016 2:19 PM, Victor Echavarry Diaz wrote: Can someone explain why CPU steal is? We believe that when the VM LPAR is using almost all is IFL's CPU stealing begins between guests. But today this specific LPAR has 4 IFL and is

Re: Additional SWAP recommendations

2016-11-29 Thread Barton Robinson
Yah, I've yet to see any data justifying wasting disk (except to get a lunch from your disk vendor) for swap space instead of just moving the extra disks to be part of the paging subsystem. If anybody has any data that they think justifies this position, please send it. VDISK gets paged out to

Re: Open stack on RHEL

2016-03-25 Thread Barton Robinson
For those interested. We have a project to replace xcat/smapi with a full backend for openstack on z/vm as part of our zpro offering. The objective is for a user of openstack to have control over a z/vm service the same as their vmware service. Since our API already includes any or none of

Re: cp3kvmxt / monwrite and storage info

2016-01-05 Thread Barton Robinson
No, monitor data does NOT contain storage information from other LPARs. The CPU information comes from the HMC and is only available to show CPU consumption by the LPAR - nothing within. On 1/5/2016 6:28 AM, Grzegorz Powiedziuk wrote: Hello, I am trying to capture performance data with

Re: New Subscriber's first question.

2015-12-18 Thread Barton Robinson
I believe CMMA was withdrawn, and function completely removed in SLES 11. On 12/18/2015 10:12 AM, Davis, Jim [PRI-1PP] wrote: I am a systems programmer at Primerica Life Insurance. We have been running SLES linux under VM for nine years. We only have four production VMs on one lpar using a

Re: Status of VDISK after swap space usage

2015-12-11 Thread Barton Robinson
experiment). End result was 40,000 less pages on disk space and a LOT of page reads. Too bad no one from Endicott sees my presentations. On 12/11/2015 4:33 AM, Bill Holder wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 14:05:26 -0800, Barton Robinson wrote: If anybody in endicott is listening, ONE REQUEST

Re: Status of VDISK after swap space usage

2015-12-11 Thread Barton Robinson
It couldn't be pgmbk, this was a result of a LINUX CMM command, and it was the Linux storage assigned to the virtual machine that was targeted. On 12/11/2015 11:01 AM, Bill Holder wrote: Barton Robinson wrote: Drop another 20,000 pages, and there are 40,000 page reads (and 20,000 page writes

Re: Status of VDISK after swap space usage

2015-12-10 Thread Barton Robinson
Altmark wrote: On Wednesday, 12/09/2015 at 08:15 GMT, Barton Robinson <bar...@velocitysoftware.com> wrote: My request to get this fixed was rejected by ibm several years ago. The problem is that even though linux doesn't have anything on the vdisk, z/vm still has to back it. I asked for a di

Re: Status of VDISK after swap space usage

2015-12-09 Thread Barton Robinson
My request to get this fixed was rejected by ibm several years ago. The problem is that even though linux doesn't have anything on the vdisk, z/vm still has to back it. I asked for a diagnose as we do with real storage - a way for Linux to tell z/vm the page no longer needs backing. So after

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Barton Robinson
No, please don't do this. Having weights in the 1000's is what causes this problem, creates excess share, the looping user takes over. If you don't understand excess share, keep shares in the 100's, and use absolute shares where you know exactly what is intended. On 10/28/2015 7:13 AM,

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Barton Robinson
The best way is to first understand your share settings and avoid excess share.See Rob's paper on the topic here "http://www.velocitysoftware.com/relshare.HTML; Use zalert to detect problems, and have zoperator to give your operations and applications people early indication. i believe you

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Barton Robinson
Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 11:30 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Help with cpu stealing No, please don't do this. Having weights in the 1000's is what causes this problem, creates excess share, the looping user

Re: DIRM problem

2015-10-05 Thread Barton Robinson
This is the reason I have re-invested in a full rewrite of ZPRO to completely eliminate any need for SMAPI. Our community objectives should be to make our systems easier to implement and maintain. Companies are not investing in the training as in the past, skills are harder to acquire, and

Re: zLinux CPU monitoring

2015-09-30 Thread Barton Robinson
There is a GSE conference for Linux, z/VM and z/VSE in Stuttgart Germany in 3 weeks. That same week, there is a performance class that will show how to get exactly what you want using zVPS "http://velocitysoftware.com/zvps.html;. If you care about performance of Linux under z/VM, you need the

linuxvm.org, velocity back online

2015-08-20 Thread Barton Robinson
bc12 moved successfully and is back up. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit

websites down - Linuxvm.org, velocitysoftware

2015-08-20 Thread Barton Robinson
Due to system upgrade, Velocity Software and other hosted sites will be down today. Note these websites all run under z/VM on a BC12, secured by RACF. Our growth, current projects, and many projected future projects require a move to a larger space. We are looking at a large number of

websites down for bc12 hardware maintenance

2015-07-23 Thread Barton Robinson
Hardware maintenance means the Velocity Software and LinuxVM.ORG websites are temporarily down, as are a few of the local user groups that we host. back up shortly -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: How to find a memory leak?

2015-07-09 Thread Barton Robinson
0.0 On 7/9/2015 9:31 AM, Michael MacIsaac wrote: Barton, It reports on the /proc/buddyinfo values and anticipates vmcp failing? On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Barton Robinson bar...@velocitysoftware.com wrote: And a good performance monitor would already have this reported - down

Re: How to find a memory leak?

2015-07-09 Thread Barton Robinson
And a good performance monitor would already have this reported - down to the process level. On 7/9/2015 9:06 AM, Michael MacIsaac wrote: Let me answer my own question. Perhaps kludgy, but by adding 'tee' to sudo, this technique works: root@lab141:~ # visudo root@lab141:~ # tail -1

Re: Where can I locate Apache Web server for zLinux?

2015-03-19 Thread Barton Robinson
or you could do it from z/vm with ZVWS. It is very fast, and trivial to use. On 3/19/2015 8:40 AM, Vitale, Joseph wrote: Hello, I need to install a simple Web Server to server up 1 file. Internal load balancing requirement. Looked at Apache Web site, found binaries for Windows and Linux

Re: Anyone has experience on selling zLinux at fixed price?

2015-02-24 Thread Barton Robinson
I've looked at the amazon and google chargeback models. One of their options is a fixed price until some number of CPU hours is exceeded. This allows the 'easy' fixed fee, but also controls the resource abuser. You would have to have tools in place to alert the abuser that they have gone

Re: Iaas - SCO vs IBM Wave vs xCat vs zPro - ZPRO

2015-01-20 Thread Barton Robinson
zPRO has been out for about 4 years and was a project started almost 10 years ago. We had many customers create their own self service applications using our web technology, it seemed reasonable to take their ideas and make a common product. ZPRO V2 is built on ALL native z/VM functionality,

Re: SLES11 SP3 v SP1

2014-11-19 Thread Barton Robinson
AMEN On 11/19/2014 9:38 AM, Mark Post wrote: On 11/19/2014 at 03:18 AM, Guest, Darren darren.gu...@uk.experian.com wrote: Mark, are you suggesting that the Oracle team should have some actual data to back up their claims? Not just a bloke with a stopwatch and an uneasy feeling?! ;-) But yes,

Re: Automated performance reporting on Linux on Z

2014-11-09 Thread Barton Robinson
I just had an installation demonstrate the perfect tool for you. In looking at what alerts should be set for operations, one of their many zlinux servers had a swap full condition. They were able to go back thru reports from last 12 months, took less than a minute to identify when the swap

Re: Automated performance reporting on Linux on Z

2014-11-09 Thread Barton Robinson
, and what caused it? Or do you just reboot? On 11/9/2014 1:38 PM, Tito Garrido wrote: If you are going to try SAR take a look on KSAR project... http://sourceforge.net/projects/ksar/ Regards, Tito On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Barton Robinson bar...@velocitysoftware.com wrote: I just had

Re: Performance Toolkit and zLinux

2014-08-25 Thread Barton Robinson
Our software (zVPS) is not free, but is no charge for POC. Our mission is to help you succeed with the Linux on z POC. On 8/25/2014 7:46 PM, Martin, Terry Contractor wrote: I am in the same boat. I would like to use Velocity for my client but since is a POC they want to sick with something

Re: Performance Toolkit and zLinux

2014-08-25 Thread Barton Robinson
The RMFPMS was a brilliant but misguided piece of software that the author stopped supporting about 10 years ago. If it costs several IFLs to run free software, there's a lot of misguidance going around The best thing about some of these tools is that your management can't tell what their

z/VM and Linux Performance Workshop - cross posted

2014-04-23 Thread Barton Robinson
Dear all, we are offering our famous performance class for the VM-Workshop attendees, on 24 25 June, in North Carolina. For registration and more details please visit: http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/workshop.html Please reach out with any questions. Best wishes and see you in North

Re: zLinux replacement for PROP

2014-03-16 Thread Barton Robinson
zOPERATOR, a no charge feature of zVPS (from Velocity Software) can accept and record and respond to messages. On 3/13/2014 9:13 PM, Morris, Kevin J. (RET-DAY) wrote: I would like to send all operator messages to a zLinux guest for further processing/storage, essentially replacing PROP. Is

VM SET REORDER OFF for large hosts

2014-01-16 Thread Barton Robinson
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:23 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3? With all of the installations (100s) i've worked

Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3?

2014-01-15 Thread Barton Robinson
With all of the installations (100s) i've worked with using vdisk for swap, this would be the first complaint i've heard with the exception of some bad configuration defaults. If you had really good performance management tools, I'd be happy to look at the data. On 1/15/2014 5:44 AM, Veencamp,

Re: High cpu utilization on vm/linux LPAR

2014-01-10 Thread Barton Robinson
This could be just new year workload. Or someone is running some new scripts that are consuming LARGE amounts of CPU. The data shows nothing strange in the CPU distribution between servers: Report: ESAUSP2 ---CPU time-- UserID (Percent) T:V /Class Total Virt Rat -

Re: High cpu utilization on vm/linux LPAR

2014-01-10 Thread Barton Robinson
issues. IBM has a workaround you can GOOGLE. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:19 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: High cpu utilization on vm/linux LPAR This could be just

web site outage (LINUXVM.ORG, VelocitySoftware.COM)

2013-12-11 Thread Barton Robinson
Due to hardware upgrade, several websites that we host on our z/VM systems will be down on thursday. This includes: LINUXVM.ORG LINUXVM.COM VelocitySoftware.com DEMO.VelocitySoftware.com If everything goes write, the new Velocity Cloud will be much bigger than ever on Friday. Our VERY old P390

Re: VM Monitor

2013-10-03 Thread Barton Robinson
Guys, you DO know I read this stuff? Anybody that knows me, had a beer with me, or much about my business would never imagine me working for someone else. I work hard at being a technology leader - that means investing in things the bean counters can't even imagine having value, investing in a

Re: VM Monitor

2013-10-03 Thread Barton Robinson
Mauro, please Read That Fine Manual/article again, licensing does NOT equal acquisition. product news CA Technologies Signs Global Licensing and Distribution Agreement with Velocity Software, a Leading Linux Performance Management Company

Re: VM Monitor

2013-10-03 Thread Barton Robinson
...@gmail.com This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again. On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Barton Robinson bar...@velocitysoftware.com wrote: Mauro, please Read That Fine Manual/article again, licensing does NOT equal acquisition. product news CA Technologies Signs Global Licensing

Re: Oracle RMAN OOM

2013-10-02 Thread Barton Robinson
Really good performance monitors would give you lots of good information. On 10/2/2013 4:28 AM, van Sleeuwen, Berry wrote: If anything I even would like to decrease the memory configuration rather than increase it. Unfortunately I got overruled by the Oracle guys who still think more memory

Re: Dedicated IFL shows 100% busy running essentially nothing

2013-08-20 Thread Barton Robinson
dedicated IFL's or GPs always look 100% busy from the LPAR perspective, and that is the data fed into RMF or CP Monitor On 8/20/2013 9:01 AM, Richards, Robert B. wrote: My VM/Linux guy came to me with a several disparate displays (a HMC Activity Display, a TMONMVS LPAR Summary screen and s

Re: CPUPLUGD or VMRM-CMM or CMMA

2013-06-27 Thread Barton Robinson
CMMA is gone, didn't work right and support was pulled. VMRM does not have proper feedback and is more likely to crash your linux server than help CPUPLUGD - never seen any measured value. Focus on understanding the storage requirements. One of the presentations at the VMWorkshop last week was

cloud on z/vm

2012-05-18 Thread Barton Robinson
I've seen several installations over the last few years build their own web based applications for cloning. That was my incentive for producing a low cost web based application that included cloning (http://VelocitySoftware.com/zpro.html;) and to provide some level of standardization. How many

Re: MIPS increase after SLES11 SP1 patches

2012-04-27 Thread Barton Robinson
If you investigate the ESALNXP report provided by ZVPS, you will see a cron job with your latest patches, and not before that. One just needs good tools Srivastava, Sagar wrote: We implemented latest patches on our SLES11 SP1 systems recently Now all the zLINUX guest are using

Re: Central vs. Expanded Storage - current recommendation

2012-04-20 Thread Barton Robinson
please make 20% of your storage ExStore. This only matters if you are storage constrained, so benchmarking differences when there are no constraints will not show a difference. When you become storage constrained, the 20% ExStore will easily show better performance. Richards, Robert B. wrote:

Re: New book: Linux Health Checker 1.0 User's Guide

2012-03-22 Thread Barton Robinson
It's called zTUNE. http://velocitysoftware.com/zztune.html; Michel Beaulieu wrote: Hello Linux-390, I know this is the LINUX-390 list, However, let me ask: Do we have any equivalent System Health Checker for z/VM? Michel Beaulieu IBM SO-Delivery (Canada)

Re: Does anyone use Microsoft's SCOM monitoring tool with zLinux?

2012-02-08 Thread Barton Robinson
And ZVPS from Velocity Software supports microsoft as well as linux on x86 for operations as well as full performance management. David Boyes wrote: Looking at the Microsoft websites (not very helpful of course, more marketing, little technical) for SCOM (System Center Operations Manager 2007

Re: Question about zVM and MF configuration

2012-01-04 Thread Barton Robinson
one lpar works well, shares storage, shares other resources, reduces overhead, reduces system programming efforts, reduces costs. And I can show other mixed mode LPARs with both VSE and linux in the same LPAR. Was it a hardware vendor recommending increasing your hardware costs Michael

Re: z/VM Switch performance

2011-10-30 Thread Barton Robinson
Re performance, there has been no need to change time slice since qdio, about 5 years ago. Offer Baruch wrote: Hi all, Well we conducted another test (much better than the last one - it had too many unpredictable variables): 1. 1 destination machine let's call it dest1 2. dest1 has 2 nics

Re: WebSphere Application Server - Idle Server Tuning

2011-07-28 Thread Barton Robinson
Before I get REALLY excited, has anyone tried this and validated they can get Linux servers running WAS to drop from QUEUE (as in drop from QUEUE 3)? Jim Elliott wrote: I don't believe this has been posted here before, but IBM has published a TechDoc on this subject.

Re: Communication Controller for Linux, monitoring

2011-07-19 Thread Barton Robinson
Are you looking at monitoring network traffic? uptime? availability? resource consumption? ZVPS ( http://velocitysoftware.com/zvps.html; ) does all that and more. Kowalski, Steve S wrote: Hello, Is anyone using any monitoring tool (except the MOSS Console) for Communication Controller for

Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-14 Thread Barton Robinson
I really despise the system defaults of REL 1500, or REL 5000. They seem (were) provided by someone ignorant of how the scheduler actually works. Rob has a nice paper showing the damage. Though ibm might try and code around how this damage impacts your system, changing these defaults to

Re: MONDCSS after IPL

2011-06-06 Thread Barton Robinson
it's really hard to make the mondcss go away unless there was a purge done, and when the application went away, so did the dcss Dean, David (I/S) wrote: How do you make MONDCSS permanent? We IPL'd, the segment did not come back, and monitoring is not working. I know how to set it up

CICS to Linux, I like it...

2011-03-29 Thread Barton Robinson
Just in from IBM systems magazine. CICS on z/os workloads moving to Linux on z. wow. Organizations are consolidating workloads onto Linux on IBM System z to lower costs, standardize operations and enhance IT flexibility. Now you can move online and batch mainframe applications to scalable

Re: Moving Oracle off zLinux boxes -- comments from the field?

2011-03-23 Thread Barton Robinson
: Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Date: 03/18/2011 04:04 PM Subject:Re: Moving Oracle off zLinux boxes -- comments from the field? Sent by:Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu wow, your DBAs have the authority to spend

Re: Moving Oracle off zLinux boxes -- comments from the field?

2011-03-18 Thread Barton Robinson
wow, your DBAs have the authority to spend that kind of money and make that kind of change without management signature? So no financial analysis, no technical reason, sounds religious. CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR) wrote: We just had a surprise announcement by one of the Oracle DBAs during a zLinux

Re: Gotcha's

2011-02-15 Thread Barton Robinson
Well, since you are ready. First, Oracle is VERY virtual friendly. And has been the most virtual friendly application there is. BUT, if you use RAC, it seems that someone decided to compete in the virtual hostile arena by making it poll at a high enough rate to ensure you need to buy a LOT

Performance Education scheduled

2011-01-21 Thread Barton Robinson
For those of you interested in performance, or performance management of your Linux and z/VM environment, our Performance Education schedule is now posted for 1st half, at http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/index.html;. Offerings are the 4 day workshop and 1 day seminars.

Re: Guest configuration question

2010-10-14 Thread Barton Robinson
Rules of thumb change, or get old. The linux spin locking has greatly improved. new evidence is showing that letting z/vm do the scheduling is more efficient for later releases of Linux - as long as there are no spin locks occurring. For example, in a one-ifl configuration, having WAS servers

Re: Guest configuration question

2010-10-13 Thread Barton Robinson
The consideration is the LPAR overhead. The more dispatching there is, the more is the physical overhead. I've seen that running as high as 5% of each processor on overcommitted systems, and .1% normally. Joe Martin wrote: Have a development system that has 2 IFLs and both are configured to the

Re: Virtualization with the Best TCO?

2010-08-25 Thread Barton Robinson
Isn't the real problem that the VMWare vendor(s) does a LOT of advertising and marketing, and the z/VM vendor does not (other than preaching to the choir)? Graves, Aaron wrote: The implication is that these represent the leading edge of virtualization, completely ignoring z/VM's capabilities.

Re: mono keep guest active

2010-08-17 Thread Barton Robinson
Yes, this is a problem. We call it virtual hostile. Rob van der Heij has been doing a tremendous amount of research in this area for the last 4 years, we've been trying to educate our customers (and IBM) on what this means. Back in 2001, there was the Linux timer, had the same problem. Got

Re: mono keep guest active - ban the blips.

2010-08-17 Thread Barton Robinson
Yep, this is exactly the problem. These processes do not use much cpu, but they blip every 10ms or so. You need to check the queue from the z/VM side to see if they are in Q3. If in Q3, then they are blipping (think i need to trademark that word). The reason these blips are so virtual

Re: DB2 direct i/o question

2010-07-30 Thread Barton Robinson
But, Oracle is VERY virtual friendly, and DB2 is VERY virtual HOSTILE. From a system performance perspective, I REALLY LIKE Oracle. Mark Post wrote: On 7/30/2010 at 12:03 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: Does this make Oracle a better fit on Linux on z than DB2? That

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Barton Robinson
So the biggest announcement of the year, i'm on my second pot of coffee, and there's still only one post about this? Is this a non-event? Dave Jones wrote: And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version of the z196. :-) DJ On 07/22/2010 06:38 AM, Jim Elliott wrote: The IBM

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Barton Robinson
-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:33 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] IBM zEnterprise System announced??? So the biggest announcement of the year, i'm on my second pot of coffee, and there's still only one post about this? Is this a non

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Barton Robinson
announced) Alan Altmark wrote: On Thursday, 07/22/2010 at 11:34 EDT, Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com wrote: So the biggest announcement of the year, i'm on my second pot of coffee, and there's still only one post about this? Is this a non-event? Kind of hard to talk about

Re: How find what resource is needed

2010-06-03 Thread Barton Robinson
You really need a decent performance monitor. I can already see that your settings would not be my view of best practices Rogério Soares wrote: Listeners, I have a strange problem again... on my lpar for development, i have now queue E3, each time a run #cp q exp i have a different

Re: UK zLUG

2010-05-19 Thread Barton Robinson
way more miles than birds. am at ibm university in Berlin now. Was not allowed to present though (or at least didn't want to pay 1000s of euros to do so, but the beer and company is all good). Y'all think the life of a performance guy is easy? Mark Post wrote: On 5/19/2010 at 05:22 AM, Shane G

Re: open source performance monitor -uses z/VM *Monitor System Service

2010-04-20 Thread Barton Robinson
So, monitoring mainframe software is really about MANAGING, this is not the pc world. Does your objectives have anything to do with the following disciplines: 1) Performance analysis including all subsystems (DASD, Storage, PAging, CPU, Network) 2) Capacity Planning (same subsystems), with

Re: Unable to kill process

2010-04-05 Thread Barton Robinson
Any chance VMRM was active and too storage away? Mark Perry wrote: Hi Ron, thats a support question if ever I heard one. Contact SAP/IBM. (Which of course will lead to a question on maintenace levels of linux and sap.) If kill -9 doesn't work then the process is in a system routine that can be

Re: ESALPS Alerts - Production Models??

2010-03-10 Thread Barton Robinson
There are many samples on the customer area of our website in: http://velocitysoftware.com/customer/tips/index.html; beyond what is shipped with the product. Rodery, Floyd A Mr CIV US DISA CDB12 wrote: I was curious if anyone is sending alerts to their enterprise monitor using Velocity's

Re: Poor WebLogic Performance

2010-03-04 Thread Barton Robinson
IF you have a good performance monitor, you would know exactly what process on what server is using CPU. With zVPS (ESALPS), on one screen, you can see ALL the top processes across your entire Linux farm, with one PFK, you can sort them by cpu. Knowing where your cpu is going means you can do

Re: Poor WebLogic Performance

2010-03-04 Thread Barton Robinson
of looking at their code. /Brad -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Poor WebLogic Performance IF you have a good performance monitor, you would

Re: A Question on Sizing z/VM Linux Guests

2010-02-04 Thread Barton Robinson
First rule of thumb, don't guess. Since Oracle SGA can be anywhere from a few hundred megabytes to 10's of gigabytes, you need to size the server larger than the SGA. If you undersize the server, you WILL have undesirable performance. On intel they size based on low cost of storage and I/O

Re: x86 to z CPU comparison for calculating IFLs needed

2010-01-04 Thread Barton Robinson
I think you are missing several things. (And jiffies are in 10ms increments, not 1ms increments) First, have you verified the accuracy of your CPU numbers? Does RHEL4 include the steal timer patch and is it working correctly on both VMWare and z/VM? Even with current levels of Linux and z/VM,

Re: SLES10 - Oracle/Memory Issues (oom-killer)

2010-01-02 Thread Barton Robinson
Or even keep one minute data, 15 minute data, and/or any other combination you would like, all at the same time. Thomas Kern wrote: If a customer were having a problem with a particular linux guest, could they modify that ESALPS condensation process, say to condense after a week? Or condense

Re: Hugepages+oracle 10.0.2.0.4 in sles10SP2

2009-11-28 Thread Barton Robinson
Martin, please correct me if i am wrong. Large page support supports 1mb pages - meaning consecutive 256 4k pages in hardware. These pages are fixed, are not pageable with current technology. The advantage is that there is one TLB entry per megabyte instead of one per 4k page, so that the TLB is

Re: Hugepages+oracle 10.0.2.0.4 in sles10SP2

2009-11-27 Thread Barton Robinson
Having seen a very good performance presentation from IBM on the value of huge pages, I'm interested in knowing what value y'all expect from this? Mark Post wrote: On 11/27/2009 at 12:36 PM, Szefler Jakub - Hurt TP jakub.szef...@telekomunikacja.pl wrote: Yes :) It may be poorly understood. I

Re: RMF PM presentation from System z Expo

2009-10-12 Thread Barton Robinson
I thought IBM stopped pushing RMFPM about 5 years ago because of overhead and lack of development interest? This was developed in the RMF lab for installations that were z/OS, no z/VM and running Linux in an LPAR. Ask your boss to talk to references (for something that has been out almost 10

Re: When will CMMA be removed from the kernel?

2009-09-23 Thread Barton Robinson
So you should probably measure the two before deciding on which one you want to keep. CMM-1 has very positive results, cmma not so positive. Leland Lucius wrote: Mark Post wrote: On 9/22/2009 at 11:35 PM, Leland Lucius lluc...@homerow.net wrote: Is it being removed entirely or will distros be

Re: When will CMMA be removed from the kernel?

2009-09-23 Thread Barton Robinson
Mike, CMM does require a collaborative piece. Or one can tune the system manually with CMM commands, but that gets boring. VMRM should have been enough, but it has very poor feed back mechanisms, and has no clue about what is happening inside Linux. It is thus severely limited, has lots of

Re: When will CMMA be removed from the kernel?

2009-09-23 Thread Barton Robinson
Xenia, wouldn't it be better if VMRM didn't have to depend on users remembering to do this as their workload changes? If they have one large server say with a large oracle application, the minimum value setting would have to be the minimum for this server? So all servers are treated and trimmed

Re: CPU usage formula

2009-08-05 Thread Barton Robinson
VM does have a single performance/capacity/accounting data stream, it is provided via Velocity Software's Linux Performance Suite. It includes Linux data to the process, application and user level, as well as all the z/VM data. But you knew that? Thomas Kern wrote: It would be nice if linux

Re: CPU usage formula

2009-08-05 Thread Barton Robinson
Yes, done, ESALPS provides you all the data you want. Scott Rohling wrote: Has anyone played around with using the VM accounting data, along with Linux usage data (sar data for example - capturing process usage) to come up with a way to assign usage as the VM level (i.e. host CPU hours) to

Re: FW: Rules of Thumb

2009-06-22 Thread Barton Robinson
So your contract negotiations people need to be educated on how to negotiate a much lower ELA? William D Carroll wrote: Again ELA, that's licensing per core depending on your ELA can change. again, depending on company and size. WAS for us was a moot point as was Oracle, DB2 etc.. no

Re: To SHARE or NOT ... that is the question(2)

2009-06-16 Thread Barton Robinson
If the kernel in a DSS is there for storage (RAM) reasons, i would recommend against it. There are 3 ways of sharing storage (RAM) that are effective, 1) kernel in NSS (named saved system) that saves about 1mb per server, clumsy, very restrictive, and savings not worth the effort 2) XIP

Re: Adabas from VM to z/Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Barton Robinson
Make sure that IF there are additional CPU requirements, you measure them before committing to production. Some installations in the past have seen significant increases - SAG has made improvements, so don't take my word/experience as gospel, measure it... Saulo Silva wrote: Hi Andrew, I know

Re: z/VM and z/Linux Performance Monitoring

2009-04-17 Thread Barton Robinson
Have you also thought about Capacity planning, chargeback/accounting, and operational alerts? Performance monitoring of z/VM and Linux is only one small part of performance management. And also look for availability of performance education. Nelson, Gene C. wrote: We are setting up an SLES 10

Re: Guest Billing

2009-04-03 Thread Barton Robinson
received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 4:15 PM

Re: Guest Billing

2009-04-02 Thread Barton Robinson
Because I get asked often about accounting and charge back for Linux processes, z/VM virtual machines, and Linux applications, I've put up more material explaining what data is available, and how to get that data. The web page is at http://www.VelocitySoftware.com/account.html;

Re: Oracle Special Interest Group

2009-03-31 Thread Barton Robinson
I think if you look at the agenda of both, there is quite a difference. Tom Duerbusch wrote: This SIG seems to be the same education available, free, at other locations also. See the announcement at the bottom of this email: Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity

Oracle Special Interest Group

2009-03-30 Thread Barton Robinson
Any one that is interested in running Oracle on Z, the conference will be held in 3 weeks: http://www.zseriesoraclesig.org/;. As part of the very low cost, there are added workshops included in the price. If interested in Linux and z/VM Performance as well as Oracle, this would be a perfect

Re: Posting etiquette

2009-03-13 Thread Barton Robinson
The following link is provided for this industry at no charge: http://velocitysoftware.com/jobs/; This is for posting jobs available and wanted for the VM, VSE and Linux platforms. Mark Barajas wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list.

zLinux / Oracle Conference

2009-02-27 Thread Barton Robinson
If anyone is interested in Oracle on zLinux, this conference: http://www.zseriesoraclesig.org/; would be of great interest. It will be a pretty intense week, and for the price is one of the best price performers in the conference calender.

Re: Advice on zLinux for a systems-administrator from the x86 world

2009-02-11 Thread Barton Robinson
Price of hardware is only a small percentage of the total cost. It's just easy to focus on when politics is playing a big part in the comparison. What the real costs are: software, people, management, floorspace and other environmentals. If it costs you an extra $50,000 for storage, but you save

Re: CANCELLED - MVMRUG January 23, 2009 Meeting

2009-01-27 Thread Barton Robinson
FYI, the ORACLE SIG (Special Interest Group) for z is Apr 20-24, and I'm teaching the last 2 days of it, in Mountain View. dalesm...@nisource.com wrote: Due to a late start on my part for planning the January meeting, I was not able to get enough speakers for the meeting, so I am unfortunately

Re: XIP (Execute In Place) for z/Linux running with RedHat 4.6

2009-01-22 Thread Barton Robinson
Go to ibm redbooks, search on XIP and ORACLE. The redbook is not just oracle, but Oracle(IBM) paid for the redbook, and thus the research. XIP is the 2nd best way to reduce Linux storage requirements. Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Hi I am looking into XIP and I am

zPRO (tm) Product Announcement

2009-01-21 Thread Barton Robinson
Velocity Software is announcing zPRO, a portal for z/VM systems management. Functionality includes provisioning/cloning, as well as interfaces to many systems management functions for z/VM. More details can be found at http://velocitysoftware.com/zpro.html;. zPRO will be put up soon on our

Re: zPRO (tm) Product Announcement

2009-01-21 Thread Barton Robinson
We use SMAPI partially. It's too slow to be really useful. Jack Woehr wrote: Barton Robinson wrote: Velocity Software is announcing zPRO, a portal for z/VM systems management. Barton, from the description on the cited page, you go well beyond what SMAPI does (out of the box) ... Since it's

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