Re: Article in Globes

2003-12-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:17:40 +0200, Gil Freund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let us now look into the propriety software side. The obvious example comes to mind: Microsoft. Well, I think there was another big fork in the propriatery software world and that is the Great Unix Fork. Not talking only

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread shlomi
Michael Sternberg wrote: RE: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it... From: Michael Sternberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Fruehauf Sent: Tue, December 09, 2003 11:08 PM To:

Re: Article in Globes

2003-12-10 Thread Guy Baruch
Shaul Karl wrote: In the Israeli there are 2 aspects which are also present else where but might be more noticeable here: 1. Open Source means a switch from the more traditional way of thinking. so ? is new==good ? 2. Hopefully it will divert money that is now spent outside of Israel,

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote about Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...: Lastly, reconsider whether you really want to use DHCP to connect. This means your username and password are not checked, and you are authenticated based on. your network card's MAC

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote about Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...: Lastly, reconsider whether you really want to use DHCP to connect. This means your username and password are not checked, and you are authenticated based on. your

BitchX on Fedora core 1

2003-12-10 Thread Erez Kirson
Hi all Has anyone installed BitchX ( ircii-pana-1.0c19.tar.gz ) on Fedora core 1 ? the "/configure" part was clean but it breaks on gmake For some reason im getting status.c:1245:14: pasting "status_user18" and "(" does not give a valid preprocessing token status.c:1246:14: pasting

RE: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread YBEN
Hi, From some contact I had with the cable companies I know that: 1. All of them are in the progress of switching to some sort of dialup connection - Over cable it will be pptp or l2tp. 2. The dialup connection has not been done in any way to help the customers. It is only to help the ISPs to

Re: The Standard Institute of Israel

2003-12-10 Thread meorero
[This maybe a little 'off topic', but still related, I guess:] Products sold by “sii.org.il” are limiting: They are compatible only for IE (version=6) and only for Acrobat Reader =5.0 I’m talking here about a CD entitled (Hebrew) as: Israeli Standards – Structure Engineering (‘Handassath

Re: [Solved] Re: thunderbird links - the saga continues...

2003-12-10 Thread Alon Weinstein
Lior Kesos wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you reportted to Bugzilla that the bug is not resolved? No, but I contacted darin fisher which wrote the script. He/She(?) told me that using Firebird 0.7 isn't enough and that I need to a 0.7 nightly build. So I went and downloaded the

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote: Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection through the new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012.net. i'm not going to promote their sales, but in short, you pay them, and they give you broadband

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:31:47AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, From some contact I had with the cable companies I know that: 1. All of them are in the progress of switching to some sort of dialup connection - Over cable it will be pptp or l2tp. 2. The dialup connection has not been

RE: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread YBEN
I'm not sure they are in the business of RD. Solution -- money -- FAST ;) Btw, some of them moved from pptp to l2tp since it is lighter protocol and the equipment is chipper. Check this site: http://www.netguru.co.il/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=3 7 Best Regards Yehoram

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Micha Feigin wrote: Even one of their supervisors agreed that their customer support is terrible. They often don't have a choice. Every so often you hit someone who will tell you so. Don't try to carry it further - the man may lose his job. Anyway, if you can tell what modem it is, maybe it

no VC switching after X servcer crash

2003-12-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi all It happens that I press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace unintentionally. This sad event brings the end of a long X session with all of its programs. However on my current system it also causes much more instability. Symptom: I can't switch to a different virtual console. Any attempt to do so aeems

Re: no VC switching after X servcer crash

2003-12-10 Thread linux-il
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Hi all It happens that I press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace unintentionally. This sad event brings the end of a long X session with all of its programs. However on my current system it also causes much more instability. Symptom: I can't switch to a different virtual console. Any

Re: no VC switching after X servcer crash

2003-12-10 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: It happens that I press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace unintentionally. This sad event brings the end of a long X session with all of its programs. However on my current system it also causes much more instability. There is always the DontZap option. Symptom:

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Ehud Karni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:07:37 +0200, Dan Fruehauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection through the new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012.net. i'm not going to promote their sales, but in

Re: no VC switching after X servcer crash

2003-12-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, 1. Why do you use the old nv driver instead of the binary nvidia kernel? as much as I know, the latter is maintained much more tightly by Mark Vojkovich (from Nvidia). 2. Remove any stuff like DRI (nvidia uses GLX) and try without the v4l extension - see if this works for you... Thanks,

Re: [KINDERGARDEN]

2003-12-10 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
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Re: [KINDERGARDEN]

2003-12-10 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
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[KINDERGARDEN OFFTOPIC] (was: Re: [KINDERGARDEN])

2003-12-10 Thread Omer Zak
The day our The Mark Himself, The Frightening Esteemed Official Flamer stooped down and emitted foul-smelling spelling flames, is the day we gave up our exciting, honorable and intelligent adult adventures and reduced ourselves to the little, trivial, tiny and plain pleasures and delights of

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Yoni Rabkin Katzenell
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 01:38:39PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Micha Feigin wrote: Even one of their supervisors agreed that their customer support is terrible. They often don't have a choice. Every so often you hit someone who will tell you so. Don't try to carry it further - the

Re: [KINDERGARDEN]

2003-12-10 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Quoth Ben-Nes Michael: to all with small penis in the list, I get tons of enlarge your pines using patch pills or what ever. ill be happy to forward it to any one or the list Come to think of it, I would be delighted to enlarge my pine. I would not be averse to enlarching my large (or

Slow KDE?

2003-12-10 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi all, I used to have a Celleron 850 MHz with 128 MB RAM. My systemwas slow. Understandable... No I own a Compaq Presario 2540 EA with a P4 2.66 GHz and 512 MB RAM... The system is still slo... Where should I look for possible culprits? I have MDK 9.2 with KDE 3.1.3 and it takes the

RE: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Baruch Shpirer
You can force AZTV to give you dhcp connection with no dialer That's the simple way to solve this -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ehud Karni Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: Slow KDE?

2003-12-10 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Never call a system slow again just because of 90 seconds on startup. That startup time is almost always between 1 and 2 minutes, but that's not your system's speed, nor bottleneck. Why do you need to turn it off? behdad On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hi all, I used to have a

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 11:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, 6. Another option is to get a xDSL router. It will do all the dialup NAT FW work for you. This way the changes in your home network are minors. It may not work. Be very careful when you purchase such router. The stores are

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Ehud Karni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:56:12 +0200, Alex Chudnovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 10 December 2003 11:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, 6. Another option is to get a xDSL router. It will do all the dialup NAT FW work for you. This

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 21:59, Ehud Karni wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:56:12 +0200, Alex Chudnovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may not work. Be very careful when you purchase such router. The stores are full with Edimax routers that DO NOT WORK with cable Internet Israeli edition

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Guy Teverovsky
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 00:33, Shaul Karl wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote: move to another ISP, Netvision Probably. (in short - because they told me they can fix me a static ip and i wouldnt have to add any $$). I want

RE: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Guy Teverovsky
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 08:27, Michael Sternberg wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Fruehauf Sent: Tue, December 09, 2003 11:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it... ... ...

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Guy Teverovsky
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 10:00, Shachar Shemesh wrote: [snip] When you connect to the internet, you get an IP. The IP is marked, at the ISP's side, as belonging to you. If that IP address does something bad, it's your door the police are going to be knocking down on. Now, how possible is

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread linux-il
Guy Teverovsky wrote: Hint: cable modem MAC address which can be easily tracked. And forged, therefore proving nothing, as far as I can tell. --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 22:53, Ehud Karni wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:15:02 +0200, Alex Chudnovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a regular 6104. May you tell me how you configured your router to use BOTH DHCP and PPTP? I've encountered only the option of using either this or

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 22:53, Ehud Karni wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:15:02 +0200, Alex Chudnovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a regular 6104. May you tell me how you configured your router to use BOTH DHCP and PPTP? I've encountered only the option of using either this or

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Guy Teverovsky
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 22:15, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: [snip] I have a regular 6104. May you tell me how you configured your router to use BOTH DHCP and PPTP? I've encountered only the option of using either this or that. You can't. What you can do is to call your Cable company and ask for

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote: In order to make sure i could connect through linux, i called 012 support line, and asked about their method of connection. I was told that the authentication is done via DHCP, using the cable modem. forgetting to ask for AFAIK,

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Dan Fruehauf
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 23:38, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote: In order to make sure i could connect through linux, i called 012 support line, and asked about their method of connection. I was told that the authentication is done

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 23:25, Guy Teverovsky wrote: On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 22:15, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: [snip] I have a regular 6104. May you tell me how you configured your router to use BOTH DHCP and PPTP? I've encountered only the option of using either this or that. You

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 23:38, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote: In order to make sure i could connect through linux, i called 012 support line, and asked about their method of connection. I was told that the authentication is done

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Thursday 11 December 2003 00:08, Dan Fruehauf wrote: but what made me sign with netvision was the fact that they supported linux, and some people knew their linux, ofcourse they told me that slackware is not supported, yada yada yada. i took some 30 minutes for thinking, and asking some

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-10 Thread Shaul Karl
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 12:08:12AM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote: but what made me sign with netvision was the fact that they supported linux, and some people knew their linux, ofcourse they told me that slackware is not supported, yada yada yada. According to my one or at most 2 short