Re: FireFox - not compatible with IE

2005-10-06 Thread David Suna
This may be somewhat off topic to Linux but since we are on the topic of browser incompatibilities I thought I would share a recent Firefox / IE javascript incompatibility that wasn't caught by any of the standards checkers that I use. The specific instance was a href=somelink id=myID div

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Erez D
I am also thinking of moving to linux-only for about 10 years now, both in work and home (my own system has always had dual os via dual boot, colinux, vmware, etc ..) 1. firefox (even on windows) does not support a lot of israely sites: my nephue can't play at fun.walla.com, i can't reach yes's

Re: FireFox - not compatible with IE

2005-10-06 Thread Peter
Did you try the javascript in FF after waiting for the page to load and display or was it run at startup ? Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the

Re: FireFox - not compatible with IE

2005-10-06 Thread David Suna
The actual case was somewhat more complicated. The code was part of a javascript scroller that I had modified to generate the contents of the scroller dynamically. So first there was javascript code that generated the a hrefdiv code and later a timer handler checked the height of the

Re: Web Hosting Recommendation

2005-10-06 Thread Lior Kesos
First of all - Happy New Year and Mazal Tov for the new job I've reccommended http://www.rotmax.com in the past and I'm still happy with their service - it's a mediuim size hosting operation. I've been hosting there for the past 3 years and I know that some people in the list have hosted there

Re: FireFox - not compatible with IE

2005-10-06 Thread Peter
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, David Suna wrote: The actual case was somewhat more complicated. The code was part of a javascript scroller that I had modified to generate the contents of the scroller dynamically. So first there was javascript code that generated the a hrefdiv code and later a

Re: Web Hosting Recommendation

2005-10-06 Thread Michael Sternberg
-Original Message- From: Lior Kesos I've reccommended http://www.rotmax.com in the past and I'm still happy with their service - it's a mediuim size hosting operation. I've been hosting there for the past 3 years and I know that some people in the list have hosted there as well. The

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Erez D: 1. firefox (even on windows) does not support a lot of israely sites: my nephue can't play at fun.walla.com http://fun.walla.com, i can't reach yes's program guide, etc True. Absolutely true. Linux is - alas - not yet for children. 2. OO: even with OO 2.0 beta, i tried reading

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: /me reminds Uri and Peter of an enlightened decision of some people in Massachusetts, that was already linked to in this thread. Yes, there is such a standard: Sun has submitted OpenOffice 1's document format to OASIS as a standard candidate. After some

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Oron Peled wrote: On Wednesday, 5 בOctober 2005 12:54, Uri Even-Chen wrote: I think there should be a standard for office file formats, and the standard should not be owned by MS. There is. It is called OpenDocument (by OASIS). Tzafrir already pointed you to the Massachusetts decision to

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Aaron wrote: The answer from a technical writer is no, not with MS office, not with OO, not with anything other than pdf. I had a client that no matter what I did if I sent an office 2000 document to them it never looked right. (we were both using office 2000) That is why pdf is the only or

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Erez D
On 10/6/05, Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth Erez D: what mailer are you using (what is 'Quoth' ? ) 1. firefox (even on windows) does not support a lot of israely sites: my nephue can't play at fun.walla.com http://fun.walla.com, i can't reach yes's program guide, etcTrue.

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Amos Shapira
On 10/6/05, Uri Even-Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, but we can't actually use the standard as long as the majority of people can't read it. And they can't read it because they use MS Office. You can't send a non-MS-Office-compatible files to such people. It will not work. They will not

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Oded Arbel
On Thursday, 6 בOctober 2005 12:50, Uri Even-Chen wrote: But you can't edit a PDF file with MS Office. Is there any Free software which can edit PDF files and convert them to other formats? As previously stated, KWord from the KDE Office suite can open and edit PDF documents, and then save

Re: Help needed for the KODIX project

2005-10-06 Thread Robert Wallner
On 10/6/05, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But are you sure the right thing is to dump Debian (or gentoo, for thatmatter) and start from scratch? Debian isn't just dpkg and apt. In fact, We cannot accept any non-free software in our repository. Not even links to non-free software. So

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Peter
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote: Aaron wrote: The answer from a technical writer is no, not with MS office, not with OO, not with anything other than pdf. I had a client that no matter what I did if I sent an office 2000 document to them it never looked right. (we were both using

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Erez D: what mailer are you using (what is 'Quoth' ? ) mutt and thunderbird. quoth from mutt. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:41:54PM +0300, Uri Even-Chen wrote: And recently Massachusetts declared it to be the official documents format for all govrement workers as of 2007. Which probably means MS-Office will be forced to support it as well by then. And what happens until 2007? They

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:52:31PM +0200, Erez D wrote: On 10/6/05, Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth Erez D: what mailer are you using (what is 'Quoth' ? ) OT: some useful tools: 'dict quoth' gives me: Quoth \Quoth\ (kw[=o]th or kw[u^]th), v. t. [AS. cwe[eth]an, imp

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 06/10/2005, at 13:52, Erez D wrote: i just wanted to state that OO is the same as word in 'changing the defualt format' in word 2003 i can save also in RTF, but if i get a doc in word2003, i need someone to do that for me. same with getting OO 2.0 format when i only have OO 1.1

Re: Help needed for the KODIX project

2005-10-06 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005, Robert Wallner wrote about Re: Help needed for the KODIX project: Big projects have the tendency to forget where they came from. Not to begin a flame war, but we are a GNU distribution, not a Linux distribution. So, linux is just a package, the same for kfreebsd. Also,

Re: Help needed for the KODIX project

2005-10-06 Thread Robert Wallner
On 10/6/05, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not trying to continue a flame war, but rather trying to understand thisstatement. How can the type of kernel (rather than, say, the version of aspecific kernel) be a package, with Linux and freebsd being alternative packages? I didn't say they

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: It's a free market. Then can either support the new standard and still keep that client or not support it and force the every civil servant to have OpenOffice (or a different conforming word processor) installed on his/her desktop. I agree. It's good to have a standard.

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Oded Arbel wrote: As previously stated, KWord from the KDE Office suite can open and edit PDF documents, and then save them to any other supported format (OpenDocument, for example). Granted, you lose a lot of formating - it doesn't convert the graphics and you lose all non-trivial styling,

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Peter wrote: Is there any Free software which can edit PDF files and convert them to other formats? http://www.google.co.il/search?q=convert+pdf+to+html+free A link to Google doesn't help much. There are many non-free applications out there. If you check the websites on the Google page

[Fwd: Re: Why most people prefer Windows]

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
I'm sending again - without the file. Why Linux-IL doesn't receive files? Uri. Original Message Subject: Re: Why most people prefer Windows Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:27:43 +0300 From: Uri Even-Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Speedy Net To: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC:

Re: [Fwd: Re: Why most people prefer Windows]

2005-10-06 Thread Peter
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote: I'm trying to send this message again, it didn't work the first time. Uri. Dear Uri, since you sent the message to the list and to me by cc for the second time, I got the message with the attachment and the list got the message without the

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Gil Freund
On 10/6/05, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/6/05, Gil Freund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PDF is the same as a printed document. It's a one way street. That's the common wizdom but I was surprised to learn that KOffice can actually open and edit PDF files. I haven't played with it a

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-06 Thread Omer Zak
My opinion - you do not need to translate your resume into Hebrew. Your question reminds me of the following anecdote from my salary slave days. I was looking for a job. When seeing an ad, I snail-mailed my resume to the company in question (those were the pre-Internet and expensive FAX days).

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Peter
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote: Peter wrote: Is there any Free software which can edit PDF files and convert them to other formats? http://www.google.co.il/search?q=convert+pdf+to+html+free A link to Google doesn't help much. There are many non-free applications out there. If

Re: [Fwd: Re: Why most people prefer Windows]

2005-10-06 Thread Peter
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote: I'm sending again - without the file. Why Linux-IL doesn't receive files? Because we prefer to receive VBA macro viruses via regular email. Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-06 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thursday 06 October 2005 19:08, Man Gregory wrote: First off all sorry for offtopic stuff. I have a question and I don't know where can ask about this. Do I need to translate my resume to Hebrew from English, if I want send its to the job offers in IT industry of Israel? I don't think

Re: [Fwd: Re: Why most people prefer Windows]

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Hi Peter, I was not aware that the list doesn't receive files. However, I didn't receive this message from the list at all (I do receive other messages I send). So I got the impression that the list didn't receive my message at all. That's why I sent it again (and then again, without the

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-06 Thread Baruch Even
Man Gregory wrote: First off all sorry for offtopic stuff. I have a question and I don't know where can ask about this. Do I need to translate my resume to Hebrew from English, if I want send its to the job offers in IT industry of Israel? I'm a native Hebrew speaker and keep my resume only

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Oron Peled
On Thursday, 6 בOctober 2005 21:22, Uri Even-Chen wrote: Thanks. It is available for Windows? On Thursday, 6 בOctober 2005 21:31, Uri Even-Chen wrote: I'm looking for a Free software, as in Capital F. With source code and everything. Hmmm... 9 minutes passed and

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-06 Thread Amos Shapira
On 10/7/05, Man Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off all sorry for offtopic stuff. I have a question and I don't know where can ask about this. Do I need to translate my resume to Hebrew from English, if I want send its to the job offers in IT industry of Israel? This is my first

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-06 Thread Amos Shapira
On 10/7/05, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First advise I got from all job agencies I worked with when looking for jobs is Make it in Hebrew. And BTW - I maintain both my English and Hebrew resumes using OpenOffice and never got a complaint from people who asked for it in MS format.

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Oron Peled wrote: On Thursday, 6 בOctober 2005 21:22, Uri Even-Chen wrote: Thanks. It is available for Windows? On Thursday, 6 בOctober 2005 21:31, Uri Even-Chen wrote: I'm looking for a Free software, as in Capital F. With source code and everything. Hmmm... 9 minutes passed and

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Amos Shapira wrote: On 10/7/05, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First advise I got from all job agencies I worked with when looking for jobs is Make it in Hebrew. I agree. Send it in Hebrew. Or both languages if you want to. And BTW - I maintain both my English and Hebrew resumes

Re: Web Hosting Recommendation

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi good people! Having a very populated homepage ( http://www.shlomifish.org/ ), and having gained a job with a nice steady positive income, I'd like to move my homepage to a serious web-hosting facility. At the moment, it is hosted at Actcom (with parts on a different

Fwd: [discuss] openoffice available as an extension for firefox

2005-10-06 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
Some people here asked about an OOo viewer- so I thought that this thread snippet from one of the OOo mailing lists would be of interest... Begin forwarded message: From: Alexandro Colorado [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 14:18:45 GMT+03:00 6 אוקטובר 2005 To: discuss@openoffice.org Subject: Re:

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-06 Thread Man Gregory
Shlomi Fish wrote: On Thursday 06 October 2005 19:08, Man Gregory wrote: First off all sorry for offtopic stuff. I have a question and I don't know where can ask about this. Do I need to translate my resume to Hebrew from English, if I want send its to the job offers in IT industry of Israel?

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-06 Thread Man Gregory
Uri Even-Chen wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: On 10/7/05, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First advise I got from all job agencies I worked with when looking for jobs is Make it in Hebrew. I agree. Send it in Hebrew. Or both languages if you want to. Thanks for your solution.

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-06 Thread Uri Bruck
Man Gregory wrote: This is my first resume in Israel after aliya and army service, and I don't know what I need to do. I wrote resume in English and then I try to translate I get more words in English that in Hebrew (all programs and OS's names). You can try to transliterate them into

VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation)

2005-10-06 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
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