On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:13:06PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guy Teverovsky wrote:
Hint: cable modem MAC address which can be easily tracked.
And forged, therefore proving nothing, as far as I can tell.
Constructing your own cable modem or burning a new ROM for an existing
cable modem
Well, we are getting close into hypothesis territory.
I suppose there is some truth in your assumptions, but I'm not
sure a proper court of law (rememeber where this discussion
startted) would take it at face-value that since a packet
appeared to arrive from a particular MAC address then it
Michael Sternberg wrote:
RE: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...
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On Wed, Dec 10, 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote about Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's
between it...:
Lastly, reconsider whether you really want to use DHCP to connect. This
means your username and password are not checked, and you are
authenticated based on. your network card's MAC
Nadav Har'El wrote:
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote about Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...:
Lastly, reconsider whether you really want to use DHCP to connect. This
means your username and password are not checked, and you are
authenticated based on. your
Hi,
From some contact I had with the cable companies I know that:
1. All of them are in the progress of switching to some sort of dialup
connection - Over cable it will be pptp or l2tp.
2. The dialup connection has not been done in any way to help the customers.
It is only to help the ISPs to
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection through the
new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012.net. i'm not going to promote
their sales, but in short, you pay them, and they give you broadband
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:31:47AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
From some contact I had with the cable companies I know that:
1. All of them are in the progress of switching to some sort of dialup
connection - Over cable it will be pptp or l2tp.
2. The dialup connection has not been
-Yaacov
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On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:31:47AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From
Micha Feigin wrote:
Even one of their supervisors agreed that their customer support is
terrible.
They often don't have a choice. Every so often you hit someone who will
tell you so. Don't try to carry it further - the man may lose his job.
Anyway, if you can tell what modem it is, maybe it
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:07:37 +0200, Dan Fruehauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection through the
new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012.net. i'm not going to promote
their sales, but in
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 01:38:39PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Micha Feigin wrote:
Even one of their supervisors agreed that their customer support is
terrible.
They often don't have a choice. Every so often you hit someone who will
tell you so. Don't try to carry it further - the
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Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection
through the new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 11:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
6. Another option is to get a xDSL router. It will do all the dialup NAT
FW work for you. This way the changes in your home network are minors.
It may not work. Be very careful when you purchase such router. The stores are
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:56:12 +0200, Alex Chudnovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 11:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
6. Another option is to get a xDSL router. It will do all the dialup NAT
FW work for you. This
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 21:59, Ehud Karni wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:56:12 +0200, Alex Chudnovsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may not work. Be very careful when you purchase such router. The
stores are full with Edimax routers that DO NOT WORK with cable Internet
Israeli edition
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 00:33, Shaul Karl wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
move to another ISP, Netvision Probably. (in short -
because they told me they can fix me a static ip and i wouldnt have to add
any $$).
I want
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 08:27, Michael Sternberg wrote:
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On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 10:00, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
[snip]
When you connect to the internet, you get an IP. The IP is marked, at
the ISP's side, as belonging to you. If that IP address does something
bad, it's your door the police are going to be knocking down on.
Now, how possible is
Guy Teverovsky wrote:
Hint: cable modem MAC address which can be easily tracked.
And forged, therefore proving nothing, as far as I can tell.
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On Wednesday 10 December 2003 22:53, Ehud Karni wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:15:02 +0200, Alex Chudnovsky
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I have a regular 6104. May you tell me how you configured your router to
use BOTH DHCP and PPTP? I've encountered only the option of using either
this or
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 22:53, Ehud Karni wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:15:02 +0200, Alex Chudnovsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a regular 6104. May you tell me how you configured your router to
use BOTH DHCP and PPTP? I've encountered only the option of using either
this or
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 22:15, Alex Chudnovsky wrote:
[snip]
I have a regular 6104. May you tell me how you configured your router to use
BOTH DHCP and PPTP? I've encountered only the option of using either this or
that.
You can't.
What you can do is to call your Cable company and ask for
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
In order to make sure i could connect through linux, i called 012 support
line, and asked about their method of connection. I was told that the
authentication is done via DHCP, using the cable modem. forgetting to ask for
AFAIK,
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 23:38, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
In order to make sure i could connect through linux, i called 012 support
line, and asked about their method of connection. I was told that the
authentication is done
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 23:25, Guy Teverovsky wrote:
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 22:15, Alex Chudnovsky wrote:
[snip]
I have a regular 6104. May you tell me how you configured your router to
use BOTH DHCP and PPTP? I've encountered only the option of using either
this or that.
You
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 23:38, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
In order to make sure i could connect through linux, i called 012 support
line, and asked about their method of connection. I was told that the
authentication is done
On Thursday 11 December 2003 00:08, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
but what made me sign with netvision was the fact that they supported
linux, and some people knew their linux, ofcourse they told me that
slackware is not supported, yada yada yada. i took some 30 minutes for
thinking, and asking some
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 12:08:12AM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
but what made me sign with netvision was the fact that they supported linux,
and some people knew their linux, ofcourse they told me that slackware is not
supported, yada yada yada.
According to my one or at most 2 short
My point is, that as members of this list, and linux users as well, beware of
the evil 012, and the way they treat linux users. Tomorrow i'll probably
disconnect from 012 and move to another ISP, Netvision Probably. (in short -
because they told me they can fix me a static ip and i
You could use pptp dialer. Should work.
You might consider checking http://www.iarc/org/~ezaton/cables and read a
lecture I wrote there.
The lecture (as well as the explenations) are relevant to Actcom, but you
could find that by changing only a little bit, you can connect to any other
ISP in
I use bezeqint, cause they let me horat keva, everyone else seems to use
credit cards only.
Something new... I've succeeded to continue using horaat keva for around 6.5
years, my ISP being Netvision.
And it was a no brainer with linux, the price ain't so great though.
And cable is quicker
Dan Fruehauf wrote:
Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection through the
new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012.net. i'm not going to promote
their sales, but in short, you pay them, and they give you broadband internet
access, in a low price.
In order to make
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 23:07, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection through
the new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012.net.
While writing this email, i didnt disconnect from 012, but i'm willing to,
mainly because one of the
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
move to another ISP, Netvision Probably. (in short -
because they told me they can fix me a static ip and i wouldnt have to add
any $$).
I want to know if this is the case. I hope that I am not the
Dan Fruehauf wrote:
My point is, that as members of this list, and linux users as well, beware of
the evil 012, and the way they treat linux users. Tomorrow i'll probably
disconnect from 012 and move to another ISP, Netvision Probably. (in short -
because they told me they can fix me a
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... beware of the evil 012 ...
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Strange. I'm connected to 012 via
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