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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1539:
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Yes. As I said, I am afraid getContext() might not always
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1539:
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As soon as you need the LoggerContext in the Managers it opens
I’m sure I have stuff I want to do. It just isn’t going to get done this week.
The soonest I could target doing a release would be labor day weekend. But I
expect I will probably spend most of that addressing issues I’ve been trying to
get to.
Ralph
> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Gary Gregory
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1539:
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I dislike the patch because of the call
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1349:
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Hmmm. "now that LogEvents use ContextData...".
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-905:
We have no plans to do that as this should give you exactly what
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Mikael Ståldal wrote:
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> Why does the ConfigurationBuilder uses its own Component class rather than
> Node? They looks very similar to me.
>
Yes, they are very similar. But you will notice that the Node has a reference
to its
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1528:
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Is there a test for that? If not, add one and find out
Almost certainly.
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 3:40 AM, Mikael Ståldal wrote:
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> Is a ConfigurationFactory that uses the InputStream from the
> ConfigurationSource supposed to close the stream when done? It seems like
> XmlConfigurationFactory,
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1528:
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I am pretty sure that is not true. The locarion information
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1531:
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Ok. Then I will do it when I get some time.
> Cha
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Ralph Goers reassigned LOG4J2-1531:
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Assignee: Ralph Goers
> Change attribute and component values from String to Obj
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Ralph Goers edited comment on LOG4J2-1537 at 8/20/16 8:17 PM:
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Please see
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1537:
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Please see http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/runtime
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1522:
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I have mixed feelings about this. Conceptually they do belong
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1531:
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If you do the above you have to allow arbitrary objects
gt; Fair enough.
>
> I am wondering if there is a design reason not to implement Map now that we
> have the opportunity with the TCM2 interface. I'd take a crack at it.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Aug 20, 2016 10:39 AM, "Ralph Goers" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
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Because Map has a lot more methods that weren’t needed and I didn’t want to
implement?
Ralph
> On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
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> Hi All:
>
> Now that we have ThreadContextMap2:
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> Why don't we do ThreadContextMap2 extends Map?
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Ralph Goers edited comment on LOG4J2-1531 at 8/20/16 5:35 PM:
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I like what
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1531:
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Mikael,I don't know that I would want to move
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1531:
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I like what this patch is trying to do, however, I have some
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1529:
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And feel free to create patches for other issues that interest
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1531:
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Can you create a patch for this? I'd prefer to look
Why? Log4j 2.3 is significant as it is the last release to support Java 6 and
Log4j 1.2 is, of course, the last (and only) link to log4j 1. If we link to
all then we would have 20 links there and it wouldn’t be obvious that log4j 2.3
was the last to support Java 6.
Ralph
> On Aug 18, 2016,
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Ralph Goers updated LOG4J2-905:
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Comment: was deleted
(was: Hi
I'm out of office until September 19th and I will not respond to my
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Ralph Goers edited comment on LOG4J2-905 at 8/18/16 5:39 PM:
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IMO, the correct
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-905:
IMO, the correct solution is to add an option to %msg
Neither of those imply that the conversion has to be at runtime. My concern
here is that any conversion is unlikely to be 100% compatible, so providing a
tool that creates a new configuration that you can then use and modify seems
like a better way to go. It is also pretty much what Logback
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1528:
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True. I personally prefer XML over JSON for the Log4j
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1528:
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I'll take a look but probably won't get a chance until
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1528:
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LOG4J2-1525 should not be dependent
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1524:
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I didn't mean to imply that a Log4j 1 configuration would
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1522:
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TTCC_CONVERSION_PATTERN is a static constant
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1526:
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It is an oversight. It should be added.
> Possibility to
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1525:
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I am confused. XMLLayout started from the Log4j 1 XMLLayout
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1524:
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While that may be true from a technical point of view, we
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1524:
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I am not crazy about doing this at run time. I prefer
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1525:
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If a meta-data file can be provided that maps Log4j 1
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1523:
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a) Why do we want to do this?
b) How can this be done?
Log4j
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1522:
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a) Why do we want to do this?
b) How can this be done?
Log4j
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1517:
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I'm fine with the "one at a time' method. If there was
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1517:
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I also have concerns about this. I'd really need to understand
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2016/08/13, at 9:59, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
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>> That’s the same thing SLF4J did - See http://slf4j.org/faq.html#excludingJCL
>> <http://slf4j.org/faq.ht
gt;> Not sure about #2 and #3.
>>
>> Remko
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2016/08/13, at 7:38, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> Yeah, really, what's the altern
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1512:
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Log4j 1 and Logback both always swallowed exceptions
Dropping Log4j 1 and doing what instead? Stop logging altogether? Logback’s
configuration isn’t compatible either.
Ralph
> On Aug 12, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Mikael Ståldal wrote:
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> There seem to be quite some frustration in some other Apache projects about
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1501:
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I will take a peek as soon as I can.
> FileAppender sho
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1501:
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I haven't had a chance to read the documentation that Matt put
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1501:
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There is no need for backward compatibility.
> FileAppen
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1501:
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Please explain why you deprecated the existing createAppender
Ralph’s rule #1: Don’t trust your IDE: Always run the Maven build from the
command line.
Ralph
> On Aug 5, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
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> Frak! XmlCompleteFileAppenderTest works fine from Eclipse...
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Matt Sicker
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1448:
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If Matt isn't comfortable with it I will try to get
I have been swamped at work. It will take me a couple of days to look at this.
Ralph
> On Aug 3, 2016, at 4:43 AM, Mikael Ståldal wrote:
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> I think that the Scala API I have been working on for quite long is ready now.
>
> Any objections to merging the branch
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1010:
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What difference does that make? The lookup has always gotten
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1010:
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That is unnecessary. The ContextMapLookup should be getting
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1010:
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As you stated, when a LogEvent has not been created a Filter
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1447:
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Lookups can be used in places where a LogEvent does not exist
Done
Ralph
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
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> Hooray, it looks like infra is testing yet another broken Jenkins environment
> on us! Can we filter this one out, too?
>
> On 28 July 2016 at 19:41, Apache Jenkins Server
least have a documented opinion on JDNI, j.u.prefs, and anything else like
> Commons Configuration.
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> The configuration for JDBC is
ou usually can configure
> everything with key/value pairs. At least the driver I co-wrote works that
> way.
>
> I would be nice to have a doc area where we write this kind of stuff down.
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
:33 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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> Has anybody asked for that? To be honest, the JNDI API is one of the worst
> designs ever. It is impossible not to get an exception during normal
> operation. If I was going to implement “advanced” configuration
ld be bits and pieces of
> different components like this last request.
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> To do what? I’ve never really used JNDI for much (except
To do what? I’ve never really used JNDI for much (except when I actually
wanted to access LDAP).
Ralph
> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
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> Any thoughts on a JNDI configuration epic?
>
> Gary
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From:
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1477:
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Yeah, I got confused by
https://blogs.oracle.com/java
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1477:
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I would suggest this issue be deferred until the minimum
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1465:
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I agree with Gary.
> Default layouts for various append
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1465:
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IMO, changing default values should rarely be done
Cool, Thanks!
Ralph
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:08 AM, Mikael Ståldal wrote:
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> I have helped Apache Spark to be a bit more Log4j 2 friendly:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-16416
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> --
>
>
> Mikael Ståldal
> Senior software developer
>
> Magine
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1313:
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I doubt it.
First, from what I can tell the PluginValue
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-949:
Actually Gary, they seem to be complaining that they don't see
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1467:
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Your last sentence is key. The whole point of LoaderUtil
re the justification was so that serializable classes can still
> use a Logger instance field (not everyone uses a static field for the Logger
> for some reason).
>
> On 21 July 2016 at 11:32, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com&g
> give you that of course.
>
> The "l" lvar is what the Java syntax requires but there is no extra object
> created by configLock.lock(), which returns "this".
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@g
course.
>
> The "l" lvar is what the Java syntax requires but there is no extra object
> created by configLock.lock(), which returns "this".
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com
> <mailto:boa...@
}
> ...
> }
>
> Yes, AutoCloseableLock is an extra object on top of the Lock itself, I'll
> give you that of course.
>
> The "l" lvar is what the Java syntax requires but there is no extra object
> created by configLock.lock(), which returns
object on top of the Lock itself, I'll
> give you that of course.
>
> The "l" lvar is what the Java syntax requires but there is no extra object
> created by configLock.lock(), which returns "this".
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 3:12
Why is it that I recall just reading about why the JDK implementors decided
that implementing an autocloseable lock was a bad idea?
How is this really any different than doing
synchronized(LOCK) {
return MAP.containsKey(name);
}
so long as everything else is doing it similarly? From
What is a mismatch?
Things that are all AutoCloseable all used to have an instance of the object
created and then make sure it was closed during a finally call. Locks
generally don’t work that way. They are typically created when they object
they reside in is created and are destroyed when
I asked myself the same question and I guess the answer is that Logger is
included in lots of classes, many of which are Serializable. It would be easier
for us to make AbstractLogger Serializable then for all the users to mark it as
transient and have to manually instantiate the Logger during
Generally, the release number and release date dictate themselves. Since we
use semantic versioning we only increase the second number when a
non-insignificant feature is added (I didn’t use significant on purpose as some
features aren’t really significant but they aren’t insignificant
Yeah, it is another case of the test not knowing when the gzip has finished.
Ralph
> On Jul 20, 2016, at 9:50 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
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> The failure:
>
>
AutoCloseable?
I guess I wouldn’t think it would be all that common to use that, but OK. Most
of the time I expect it will get used in some other initialize method and
shutdown would be called in some sort of termination handler, much like the
Servlet spec does. So unlike something like a
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Is this a duplicate or at least similar to LOG4J2-1094
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Ralph Goers edited comment on LOG4J2-1470 at 7/20/16 3:42 AM:
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What
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What is the difference between that and
{code}
final
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1469:
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What version of Log4j are you using? I believe
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1436:
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I would not be thrilled with this. At least by requiring
; >>>> And get ready for a GitHub fork...
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>> >>>> Gary
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>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com
>> >>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>&g
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1226:
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I would love to change the default layout to something else
ou'll just want to have a good abstraction built so you can
>> plug in the right implementation at runtime (non-container vs container).
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>> Cheers,
>> Paul
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>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
>> <mailt
in the right implementation at runtime (non-container vs container).
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> Cheers,
> Paul
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> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> I’m not aware that frameworks like Log4j actua
I’m not aware that frameworks like Log4j actually adhere to those guidelines.
It is too difficult to write code that works in both the JEE and non-JEE
environments.
Ralph
> On Jul 14, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Paul Benedict wrote:
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> In an EE environment, don't create your own
pport
> users who did customizations to Log4j 1.2.
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> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 1:02 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> That would rule out building on a Mac. I’d have to try it from a Linux VM.
> I think Gary m
> the right places.
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> Gary
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> On Jul 14, 2016 9:02 AM, "Ralph Goers" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> That would rule out building on a Mac. I’d have to try it from a Linux VM.
> I think Gary might have buil
That would rule out building on a Mac. I’d have to try it from a Linux VM. I
think Gary might have built Log4j 1 in the past.
Ralph
> On Jul 14, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Paul Benedict wrote:
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> Matt, I guess you need JDK 1.4.2 on your machine to have artifact
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I should also point out that I am aware that Log4j 2 has problems building
against Java 9. We need to start tackling those ASAP.
Ralph
> On Jul 14, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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> I am not sure how that “patch” integrates with Log4j but
I am not sure how that “patch” integrates with Log4j but I get the idea of the
problem. To be honest, I have very mixed feelings about creating a patch
release for this.
Ralph
> On Jul 14, 2016, at 7:56 AM, Paul Benedict wrote:
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> According to this poster, it appears
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1457:
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The patch looks fine to me. I don't think a separate method
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Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1059:
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We really should have a tool that does it.
> log
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Ralph Goers edited comment on LOG4J2-1226 at 7/11/16 12:42 PM:
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