Re: blibble

[Jonathan Stowe]

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Michael Stevens wrote:

> You know you're drunk when, faced with the problem of getting through
> an underground ticket gate, you get out your house keys and start fiddling
> with them looking for the right one.
> 


Look you can operate a computer and type coherently, it can't be all that
bad :)

And fuck me I'm at work 

/J\
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Re: Damian's Visit

[Dave Cross]

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 02:26:45AM -0500, David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 07:14:17AM +, Dave Cross wrote:
> > As you'll have seen from his web site
> > , Damian will be in London on
> > 25th and 26th Feb. I've exchanged emails with him and here are a few
> > more details.
> 
> Out of curiosity, did you first hear about it from the website?  I'm
> just wondering, because I just looked at it and it appears he's coming
> to new york... which I hadn't heard a word about.  weird.

I _did_ first hear about it from his site. You should probably email him
like I did and get further clarification.

Dave...

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Re: Damian's Visit

[David H. Adler]

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 07:14:17AM +, Dave Cross wrote:
> As you'll have seen from his web site
> , Damian will be in London on
> 25th and 26th Feb. I've exchanged emails with him and here are a few
> more details.

Out of curiosity, did you first hear about it from the website?  I'm
just wondering, because I just looked at it and it appears he's coming
to new york... which I hadn't heard a word about.  weird.

dha

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Damian's Visit

[Dave Cross]

As you'll have seen from his web site
, Damian will be in London on
25th and 26th Feb. I've exchanged emails with him and here are a few
more details.

He flies in at 11:30am on Sunday 25th and is teaching all day Monday and
most of Tuesday, before flying out again at 6:20pm on Tuesday.

He's happy to give us a talk on one of those nights (he suggests
Quantum::Superpositions, but will do another if requested) and would
like to come and eat/drink with us on the other (jetlag permitting).

I'd suggest that we should entertain him on Sunday and that he should
entertain us on Monday. We'll probably need somewhere _really_ big for
his talk[1]. Any suggestions?

This also means that in February we'll have two emergency
technical meetings as Matt Sergeant will be speaking to us on the
previous Thursday.

Dave...

[1] Maybe the Natural History Museum would be a good place for this.

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Re: blibble

[Chris Butler]

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:01:49AM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
> You know you're drunk when, faced with the problem of getting through
> an underground ticket gate, you get out your house keys and start fiddling
> with them looking for the right one.

Hmm... I was /going/ to come up to Holborn, I really was.

I went for a "quick one" inthe Pelican with PeterC before we left for
London.pm. We left there at about 11:20.

-- 
Chris

Re: blibble

[Roger Burton West]

On or about Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:01:49AM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>You know you're drunk when, faced with the problem of getting through
>an underground ticket gate, you get out your house keys and start fiddling
>with them looking for the right one.

Or when, faced with the problem of getting through your front door,
you reach by reflex for the Leatherman on your belt.

R

Re: Technical Meeting

[alex]

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
> It was pointed out this evening that I hadn't send out a reminder for
> the technical meeting which is in two weeks time (Jan 18th). We'll be
> holding it at State 51 and I'm hoping that Alex or Jo will post
> detailed directions.

walk out of the bagel shop, turn left, walk on and across the crossroads,
take the next left

[better instructions soon, but it takes up most of rhoda street, bethnal
green, nearest tubes are old street, shoreditch, liverpool street and
bethnal green, or closest of all, bus route number 8]

we have plenty space, but enough seating may be a problem.  if you have
back problems or so, let me know and i'll make sure you get somewhere nice
to sit.

what time should it start, dave?

> As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If
> you've got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me
> know.

i'd like to talk about organising sound with perl for 20 minutes

blibble

[Michael Stevens]

You know you're drunk when, faced with the problem of getting through
an underground ticket gate, you get out your house keys and start fiddling
with them looking for the right one.

Michael

Re: FOOD

[David Cantrell]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:53:38PM -0500, David H. Adler wrote:

> If you guys ever get the trip to new york together, we could schedule
> a trip to one of our *many* Wendy's... :-)

Or we could just do a trip to Croydon.pm.  We have a Wendys.  Ner ner
ner-ner ner.

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Technical Meeting

[Dave Cross]

It was pointed out this evening that I hadn't send out a reminder for
the technical meeting which is in two weeks time (Jan 18th). We'll be
holding it at State 51 and I'm hoping that Alex or Jo will post detailed
directions.

As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If you've
got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me know.

You can do a lightning talk or speak for 20 minutes. Note that I'll be policing the 
lightning talks strictly this time, so it's probably worth working out exactly how 
much you think you can get thru in 5 minutes.

Dave...

[1] Or even slightly cool.

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Re: Books

[David H. Adler]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:59:05PM +, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?
> 
> Insane filing system

They (used to, at least) file their Science Fiction (and some other
sections) by publisher rather than author or even title.  Good luck
finding a book if you don't know the publisher...

dave, has had issues w/foyles for many years...

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Re: Books

[David H. Adler]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:41:34PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> 
> This lunchtime I picked up a copy of Martin Brown's 'Debugging Perl'. Anyone
> have any opinions on that yet?

I'm reading it at the moment.  My opinion at this point is Good Idea
Foiled by Mediocre Execution.  He doesn't do any serious discussion of
-w and strict until chapter 8, He says in the 2nd or 3rd paragraph of
the book that it's hard to write bug-free perl code as though this
were false for other languages, there are some inaccuracies that I
would have been less concerned about if they weren't in a book about
debugging... etc.

Overall, not bad, but the devil's in the details.  I'm trying to
figure out if I'm allowed to write a not overly positive review of a
book from a company that I'm currently tech editing another book
for... :-)

dha

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win, when the bad guys leave." - The Jim Basnight Thing

Re: FOOD

[David H. Adler]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:27:38PM +, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Are we in PO this evening? I need a drink badly.
> 
> I drink badly too.

I'm sorry, but that parsing of Jonathan's comment indicates that he
*needs* badly.  His drinking skills are indeterminate at this point.

dha

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Re: FOOD

[David H. Adler]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 12:20:38PM -, Simon Batistoni wrote:
> > Are you all mad?
> > 
> > Wendy's. Obviously. 
> > 
> > Dave...
> 
> They're dead and gone. All their locations in London are now McD's.
> 
> But yeah, they did *really* nice hamburgers, actually.
> 
> In fact, I'm getting all nostalgic now...

If you guys ever get the trip to new york together, we could schedule
a trip to one of our *many* Wendy's... :-)

dha

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Re: Books

[Chris Benson]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:26:25PM +, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> 
> It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a perl library
> together for the guys I'm working with, but I managed it without
> having to go into Foyle's. Yeah!
> 
> The bonus was a second edition of Jon Bentley's "Programming
> Pearls". A classic.

Aha, you've left yourself open to pedants here: ...

Is that 2nd edition as in with updates?  Or as in "Reprinted with 
corrections May, 1989"?

If the first, what's the difference?  Is it worth getting it if you've
already got 1.ed?

Also, are you going to get them "More Programming Pearls, Confessions of
a Coder" as well?
-- 
Chris Benson

Damian's webpage.

[Dean S Wilson]

Don't know how many of you have seen this:
http://yetanother.org/damian/diary_January_2001.html#day_4

Made me chuckle.

Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand.
   ---  Anon

Re: JOB: At A Very Well-Known Company

[Redvers Davies]

> They appear to have accepted Dave's ref. What are they like as an
> agency? And how are they IR35 wise?

They are OK - you definatly feel that they are a large agency as opposed
to a one man band which has both good and bad points.  Their people do
however have unlimited entertainment expense accounts ;)

IR35 wise they started off being inflexible.  Their people are very target
orientated and for the person that was dealing with me the IR35 thing
was too much trouble for him.  I've been moved and the person I have now
is very flexible - seems you suck and seen between people.

I don't have an IR35 safe contract as the client was unwilling to change
the terms.  They increased my rate by 30% instead.

Red

Re: yapc footage / soundage

[Redvers Davies]

> well, Nat's bringing a lot of miniDV tapes tonight, we are going to
> convert them into Quicktime and Real for streaming. 
> what source format do you need to make VCDs with your thingy?

>From the homepage:

create a MPEG-1 video stream with the dimensions 352x240 (NTSC) or 352x288
(PAL) and a bitrate of 1152 KBit/sec (use the encoder of your choice, you
find one for MJPG encoded AVIs or Quicktime files in the lavtools). 

create a MPEG-1 layer 2 audiostream with a sample rate of 44100 Hz, stereo
and a bitrate of 224 KBit/sec (use the encoder of your choice, you find one
for MJPG encoded AVIs or Quicktime files in the lavtools).  


I would suggest waiting before you go to any time or trouble that I can
actually write the things.  I will be testing the software and hardware
over the next few days.


Red

yapc footage / soundage

[jo walsh]

> > also i started laying out the few mp3's i have and some of the schedule
> > of the conference into a website tonight, so expect movement on that
> > front rsn,
> 
> Has anyone thought of putting the talks onto VCD?  If I can get this
> VCD software to work that I just aquired (thanks again) i'm happy to
> try and burn some.

well, Nat's bringing a lot of miniDV tapes tonight, we are going to
convert them into Quicktime and Real for streaming. 
what source format do you need to make VCDs with your thingy?

jo

 

Re: Books

[Greg McCarroll]

* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> From: Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 04 January 2001 14:50
>  
> > * at 04/01 13:26 + David Hodgkinson said:
> > > 
> > > It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a 
> > > perl library together for the guys I'm working with, but 
> > > I managed it without having to go into Foyle's. Yeah!
> > 
> > er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?
> 
> Typical customer enquiry in Foyles:
> 
> Customer: Can you tell me where your books on [insert random subject] are?
> Foyles Bod: Who are they published by?
> C: Huh?
> FB: All of our books are classified by publisher. We find that's easier for
> finding a specific book.
> C: But I don't know what book I want. I just want to look at all of the
> books on [insert random subject] and compare them.
> FB: Then you'll have to visit each publisher's section indiviudally.
> C (mutters to self): Or I could just go next door to Waterstones.
> 

yes, but it does have a certain beauty to it

-- 
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Re: FOOD

[David Hodgkinson]

"Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Are we in PO this evening? I need a drink badly.

I drink badly too.

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Re: FOOD

[Greg McCarroll]

yes

* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Are we in PO this evening? I need a drink badly.
> 
> 
> Jonathan PetersonIdeas Hub Ltd
> (t) +44 (0)20 7487 1310
> www.ideashub.com
>  
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Re: FOOD

[Michael Stevens]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:36:39PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> Are we in PO this evening? I need a drink badly.

Yes.

Re: Books

[Paul Mison]

On 04/01/2001 at 13:59 +, David Hodgkinson wrote:
>Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?
>
>Insane filing system
>
>Legendarily unhelpful staff
>
>It smells funny

No built in coffee shop.

Not that that's really that important of course, although I would like
to go the the 5th floor bar in Waterstones Piccadilly sometime.

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:: gratuitous drum solo

RE: FOOD

[Jonathan Peterson]

Are we in PO this evening? I need a drink badly.


Jonathan PetersonIdeas Hub Ltd
(t) +44 (0)20 7487 1310
www.ideashub.com
 

Re: Books

[Michael Stevens]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 03:10:24PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> That was Sili of you 

On the plus side, They Have Lots Of Books, which makes up for almost
all their faults.

RE: Books

[dcross - David Cross]

From: Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 04 January 2001 14:50
 
> * at 04/01 13:26 + David Hodgkinson said:
> > 
> > It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a 
> > perl library together for the guys I'm working with, but 
> > I managed it without having to go into Foyle's. Yeah!
> 
> er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?

Typical customer enquiry in Foyles:

Customer: Can you tell me where your books on [insert random subject] are?
Foyles Bod: Who are they published by?
C: Huh?
FB: All of our books are classified by publisher. We find that's easier for
finding a specific book.
C: But I don't know what book I want. I just want to look at all of the
books on [insert random subject] and compare them.
FB: Then you'll have to visit each publisher's section indiviudally.
C (mutters to self): Or I could just go next door to Waterstones.


Dave...


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Re: Books

[Greg McCarroll]

* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:59:05PM +, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> > > er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?
> > 
> > Insane filing system
> > 
> > Legendarily unhelpful staff
> > 
> > It smells funny
> 
> I spent several minutes once trying to teach one of the staff in their
> computing section how to spell the word 'silicon'. So he could put it into
> their computer and find the book I wanted, for which I knew both title
> and author.
> 

That was Sili of you 

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Re: JOB: At A Very Well-Known Company

[Piers Cawley]

Redvers Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I'm going to give 'em free sales leads. Say Dave, can I name you as
> > a referee?
> 
> I am working through Aerotek too - you can use my name should
> you wish.

They appear to have accepted Dave's ref. What are they like as an
agency? And how are they IR35 wise?

-- 
Piers

Re: Books

[Struan Donald]

* at 04/01 13:59 + David Hodgkinson said:
> Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?
> 
> Insane filing system

it has a certain random quality
 
> Legendarily unhelpful staff

really? they've always been fine anytime i was in there.

on the other hand they're not waterstones and therefore to be
encouraged.

s
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Re: Books

[Piers Cawley]

David Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > * at 04/01 13:26 + David Hodgkinson said:
> > >
> > > It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a perl
> > > library together for the guys I'm working with, but I managed it
> > > without having to go into Foyle's. Yeah!
> >
> > er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?
> 
> Insane filing system
> 
> Legendarily unhelpful staff

Much better than it was now the old lady's gone. Heck, they even have
barcode scanners now...

> It smells funny

Hmm... can't say I'd noticed that, but I have a cold.

-- 
Piers

Re: tommorow nights meeting

[Redvers Davies]

> also i started laying out the few mp3's i have and some of the schedule
> of the conference into a website tonight, so expect movement on that
> front rsn,

Has anyone thought of putting the talks onto VCD?  If I can get this
VCD software to work that I just aquired (thanks again) i'm happy to
try and burn some.

Red

Re: Books

[Michael Stevens]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:59:05PM +, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> > er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?
> 
> Insane filing system
> 
> Legendarily unhelpful staff
> 
> It smells funny

I spent several minutes once trying to teach one of the staff in their
computing section how to spell the word 'silicon'. So he could put it into
their computer and find the book I wanted, for which I knew both title
and author.

Michael

Re: JOB: At A Very Well-Known Company

[Redvers Davies]

> I'm going to give 'em free sales leads. Say Dave, can I name you as a
> referee? 

I am working through Aerotek too - you can use my name should you wish.

Red

Re: Books

[David Hodgkinson]

Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> * at 04/01 13:26 + David Hodgkinson said:
> > 
> > It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a perl library
> > together for the guys I'm working with, but I managed it without
> > having to go into Foyle's. Yeah!
> 
> er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?

Insane filing system

Legendarily unhelpful staff

It smells funny

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Re: FOOD

[Roger Burton West]

On or about Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:54:23PM -, Matthew Freake typed:

>...and thinking about it, didn't the Wendy's on Shaftesbury Avenue used to
>be a Taco Bell as well ?

I don't think so; there was one on the other side of Haymarket, though,
towards Leicester Square.

R

RE: FOOD

[Matthew Freake]

David Cross scribbled:

> > > Are you all mad?
> > > 
> > > Wendy's. Obviously. 
> > 
> > > Dave...
> 
> They're dead and gone. All their locations in London are now McD's.

> But this is terrible news. When did it happen?

Actually, while we're on the subject, does anyone know what happened to the
few Taco Bell's in this country ? They seemed to suffer a similar fate;
which was a great shame 'cos they were one of the more-veggie friendly fast
food chains going.

...and thinking about it, didn't the Wendy's on Shaftesbury Avenue used to
be a Taco Bell as well ?

Cheers 


Matt Freake

Re: Books

[Struan Donald]

* at 04/01 13:26 + David Hodgkinson said:
> 
> It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a perl library
> together for the guys I'm working with, but I managed it without
> having to go into Foyle's. Yeah!

er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?

s
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RE: Books

[dcross - David Cross]

From: David Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 04 January 2001 13:26

> It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a perl library
> together for the guys I'm working with, but I managed it without
> having to go into Foyle's. Yeah!

I generally find that Blackwell's computer section is the best on Charing X
Road. For example, it's the only shop that has LaTeX books on the shelves.

Mind you, the Perl books are in their web section :(

> The bonus was a second edition of Jon Bentley's "Programming
> Pearls". A classic.

A great book.

This lunchtime I picked up a copy of Martin Brown's 'Debugging Perl'. Anyone
have any opinions on that yet?

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[David Hodgkinson]

It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a perl library
together for the guys I'm working with, but I managed it without
having to go into Foyle's. Yeah!

The bonus was a second edition of Jon Bentley's "Programming
Pearls". A classic.

Re: FOOD

[Robert Shiels]

>
> Are you all mad?
>
> Wendy's. Obviously.
>
I had a Wendy burger last month when I was in New York - it was very
disappointing and not at all how I remember the London ones used to taste.
The bun was very sweet and sickly.

--
Robert

RE: FOOD

[dcross - David Cross]

From: Simon Batistoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 04 January 2001 12:21

> > Are you all mad?
> > 
> > Wendy's. Obviously. 
> > 
> > Dave...
> 
> They're dead and gone. All their locations in London are now McD's.

But this is terrible news. When did it happen?

Actually it happened once before. There were loads of Wendys in London in
the early 80s, but they all turned into Pizza Huts in about 1983. The big
Pizza Hut on the Strand was a Wendys, as was the one on Cambridge Circus.
For some reason the Wendys on Praed St was the only one that didn't change.

Dave...
[who realises that he probably knows too much about this subject]


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Re: FOOD

[Chris Heathcote]

on 4/1/01 1:11 pm, Neil Ford wrote:

> What even the one of Shaftsbury Avenue? That was still there late last year.

Got my 2-for-1 McChicken sandwich from there today!
 
> Of course they all pale into insugnificance next to their US counterparts

Wendys UK suffered from some of the most surly service I have ever seen,
even in  Britain...

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Re: FOOD

[David Hodgkinson]

Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Are you going to set your machine's clock to the right time first?

No.

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Re: FOOD

[Roger Burton West]

On or about Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:25:42AM +, David Hodgkinson typed:

>OK, Now I'm REALLY hungry. I'll be at the New World at one
>O'Clock.

Are you going to set your machine's clock to the right time first?

Roger

Re: FOOD

[David Hodgkinson]

dcross - David Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Are you all mad?
> 
> Wendy's. Obviously. 

The best diner style burgers and fries I've ever had were in a Denny's
of all places in Watertown NY. Plenty of dill pickles, coleslaw,
bacon, relish. Yum. Back when I ate meat, of course.

OK, Now I'm REALLY hungry. I'll be at the New World at one
O'Clock.


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RE: FOOD

[Simon Batistoni]

> Are you all mad?
> 
> Wendy's. Obviously. 
> 
> Dave...

They're dead and gone. All their locations in London are now McD's.

But yeah, they did *really* nice hamburgers, actually.

In fact, I'm getting all nostalgic now...

RE: FOOD

[dcross - David Cross]

From: Paul Mison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 04 January 2001 12:13

> On 04/01/2001 at 11:10 +, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> >Chris Heathcote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> on 4/1/01 11:03 am, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> >>
> >> > Anyone fancy dim sum shortly?
> >>
> >> What, when McDonalds are doing 2-for-1? ;)
> >
> >Barf.
> 
> Yeah, everyone knows Burger King are better :O)

Are you all mad?

Wendy's. Obviously. 

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RE: FOOD

[Simon Batistoni]

> > on 4/1/01 11:03 am, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> > 
> > > Anyone fancy dim sum shortly?
> > 
> > What, when McDonalds are doing 2-for-1? ;)
> 
> Barf.

Yeah, but at the moment you get to barf *twice* each visit :)

Re: FOOD

[Paul Mison]

On 04/01/2001 at 11:10 +, David Hodgkinson wrote:
>Chris Heathcote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> on 4/1/01 11:03 am, David Hodgkinson wrote:
>>
>> > Anyone fancy dim sum shortly?
>>
>> What, when McDonalds are doing 2-for-1? ;)
>
>Barf.

Yeah, everyone knows Burger King are better :O)

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Re: FOOD

[David Hodgkinson]

Chris Heathcote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> on 4/1/01 11:03 am, David Hodgkinson wrote:
> 
> > Anyone fancy dim sum shortly?
> 
> What, when McDonalds are doing 2-for-1? ;)

Barf.

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Re: FOOD

[Chris Heathcote]

on 4/1/01 11:03 am, David Hodgkinson wrote:

> Anyone fancy dim sum shortly?

What, when McDonalds are doing 2-for-1? ;)

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FOOD

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Re: Getting keys of mappe @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;d hash?

[Piers Cawley]

Shevek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 4 Jan 2001, Piers Cawley wrote:
> 
> > Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:16:06AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
> > > > > How can I do this:
> > > > >   my @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;
> > > > >   my %hash = map { $_ => 1 } @men;
> > > > >   my @sort = sort keys %hash;
> > > > >   print "We have @sort\n"; # foo bar baz
> > > > > without the %hash?
> > > 
> > > > my $last;
> > > > do {print $_ unless $_ eq $last; $last = $_} for sort @list
> > > > Dunno if it's quicker than the cunning tricks with map, but hey, it
> > > > works. 
> > > 
> > > Ah, but my question was badly phrased. I needed to end up with @sort, not
> > > a printed list ... 
> > 
> > Ah:
> > 
> > do {push(@sorted, $_) unless $_ eq $last; $last = $_} for sort @list;
> > 
> > Can't be bothered to benchmark it...
> 
> This would be very slow for the dutch national flag, as it sorts the large
> list rather than the small one.

Point. It's all data dependent isn't it?

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Re: Getting keys of mappe @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;d hash?

[Shevek]

On 4 Jan 2001, Piers Cawley wrote:

> Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:16:06AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
> > > > How can I do this:
> > > >   my @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;
> > > >   my %hash = map { $_ => 1 } @men;
> > > >   my @sort = sort keys %hash;
> > > >   print "We have @sort\n"; # foo bar baz
> > > > without the %hash?
> > 
> > > my $last;
> > > do {print $_ unless $_ eq $last; $last = $_} for sort @list
> > > Dunno if it's quicker than the cunning tricks with map, but hey, it
> > > works. 
> > 
> > Ah, but my question was badly phrased. I needed to end up with @sort, not
> > a printed list ... 
> 
> Ah:
> 
> do {push(@sorted, $_) unless $_ eq $last; $last = $_} for sort @list;
> 
> Can't be bothered to benchmark it...

This would be very slow for the dutch national flag, as it sorts the large
list rather than the small one.

S.

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Re: lack of sleep, insanity and you rotten mongers

[jduncan]

grep is not in context :-)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:05:10AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> 
> i was just reading comp.unix.programmer and saw GREP and thought who's
> talking about me,
> 
> this is all your fault!
> 
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RE: JOB: At A Very Well-Known Company

[dcross - David Cross]

From: Piers Cawley
Sent: 04 January 2001 09:37

[stuff about a job at Ft.com (oops! promised I'd keep the client's name a
secret :)
 
> Thought that sounded familiar, they phoned me about it. But want
> references before they'll put me up for an interview and I'm damned if
> I'm going to give 'em free sales leads. Say Dave, can I name you as a
> referee? 

I try to use as references people who a) aren't contractors and b) have
completely inappropriate skillsets :)

I'd be happy to act as a reference for you Piers, but from what my last
reference told me, the Aerotek verbal references can be quite detailed and
I@m not sure that I'd have all the info they need.

Cheers,

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Re: JOB: At A Very Well-Known Company

[Piers Cawley]

Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The skills are required for someone to look after the live data feeds:
> 
> Strong Perl (including DBI).
> Strong UNIX.
> Reasonable SQL, with a knowledge of Oracle (or similar DBMS).
> Must know basics of HTML and XML.
> Must understand CGI and have a good/ general web knowledge.
> Knowledge of C would be good for the THM migration.
> 
> Java/JavaScript, etc skills are not necessary for feed work, although the
> basics should be understood by any candidate.
> 
> 
> Adam Bassett
> Technical Consultant
> Maxim Group
> A Division of Aerotek Europe
^^

Thought that sounded familiar, they phoned me about it. But want
references before they'll put me up for an interview and I'm damned if
I'm going to give 'em free sales leads. Say Dave, can I name you as a
referee? 

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Re: Fwd: [orwant@oreilly.com: The state of TPJ]

[Piers Cawley]

Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> More on the TPJ saga.

[...]

Hmm... I wonder when I'm going to get my long term subscription
repaid. 

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Re: Getting keys of mappe @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;d hash?

[Piers Cawley]

Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:16:06AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
> > > How can I do this:
> > >   my @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;
> > >   my %hash = map { $_ => 1 } @men;
> > >   my @sort = sort keys %hash;
> > >   print "We have @sort\n"; # foo bar baz
> > > without the %hash?
> 
> > my $last;
> > do {print $_ unless $_ eq $last; $last = $_} for sort @list
> > Dunno if it's quicker than the cunning tricks with map, but hey, it
> > works. 
> 
> Ah, but my question was badly phrased. I needed to end up with @sort, not
> a printed list ... 

Ah:

do {push(@sorted, $_) unless $_ eq $last; $last = $_} for sort @list;

Can't be bothered to benchmark it...

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[Greg McCarroll]

i was just reading comp.unix.programmer and saw GREP and thought who's
talking about me,

this is all your fault!

greg

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