[LUTE] Re: Siena Manuscript No. 17 - Ricercar

2019-07-15 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I recommend listening to these examples: The first one shows very clearly how the rhythms are developed within the cycle. Note the corresponding rhythm sections. [1]https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/floriano-canale-canzona-l a-balzana-a-8-eri-jaane-na-doongi

[LUTE] Re: Rite of Spring (was Siena Manuscript No. 17 before being hijacked to India)

2019-07-14 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Thanks Ted, I have wondered what the meme was (I only saw one with the notes). I'm on it! Chances are that there is a ricercar that comes up with The Lick because of a facilitating soggetto. Also French 17th century, but I can't play those on my lute. On 14.07.19 04:52, Theodore Jordan wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Siena Manuscript No. 17 - Ricercar

2019-07-13 Thread Tristan von Neumann
icit period documentation, these assertions read to me as a form of "cum hoc ergo propter hoc" (perhaps specifically ignoring a common cause) or fallacious faulty generalization. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of Tristan von

[LUTE] Re: Siena Manuscript No. 17 - Ricercar

2019-07-13 Thread Tristan von Neumann
ropter hoc" (perhaps specifically ignoring a common cause) or fallacious faulty generalization. Eugene -Original Message----- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 8:12 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Siena Ma

[LUTE] Re: Siena Manuscript No. 17 - Ricercar

2019-07-13 Thread Tristan von Neumann
urces: The Ricercar "no. 17" from the Siena Manuscript is a Raga Dhanaseri/Dhanashri piece. The same model is also used in "La Spiritata" by Giovanni Gabrieli. Both mashups can be heard here: https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/siena-manuscript-ricercar-no-17-mode-1-

[LUTE] Re: Siena Manuscript No. 17 - Ricercar

2019-07-13 Thread Tristan von Neumann
to have a short memory Tristan. On April 24 of this year you wrote: '..yes, I'm back... But I will not talk about India.' Best, Matthew Le 13 juil. 2019 à 08:55, Tristan von Neumann a écrit : [News from India - please ignore if it does not interest you] A new interest

[LUTE] Siena Manuscript No. 17 - Ricercar

2019-07-13 Thread Tristan von Neumann
The same model is also used in "La Spiritata" by Giovanni Gabrieli. Both mashups can be heard here: https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/siena-manuscript-ricercar-no-17-mode-1-raga-dhanaseri-shaan-prof-surinder-singh https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/giovanni-gabrie

[LUTE] Re: Plucking Room

2019-07-01 Thread Tristan von Neumann
If you are able to read German, there is also "Lautenbau" by Ekkehard Sachs, an engineer and avid luthier. His book covers many lute construction aspects, also the one in question. I did not regret buying it. On 01.07.19 16:40, Ron Andrico wrote: It seems excessively harsh to state that "

[LUTE] Re: David Gilmore [guitar] Collection being sold

2019-06-30 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Let's not open that discussion, but... for charity, this is probably the dumbest good cause ever, especially if you are rich. If everyone who is hysterically flying around the planet, peddling the "we are all doomed" climate panic just stopped breathing, CO2 would decrease drastically. (scnr)

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-28 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Just observe the rule: reply *above* the previous text, not below. Frankly I don't understand the fuss. What is more annoying: replying to the lutelist and not removing the personal email of the poster, which leads to duplicate mails, obviously. On 28.06.19 18:06, David Smith wrote: One reaso

[LUTE] Galilei Contrapunto Secondo BM score

2019-06-24 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear collective, does anyone have a pdf score (not tabs) of Vincenzo Galilei's Contrapunto Secondo "B.M."? I am playing with someone who can't use tabs. I'd make my own score, but I thought I'll ask first. Thanks! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth

[LUTE] Re: Corigniani

2019-06-21 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Unfortunately (again I am using that word today...) one cannot be sure. Take the concertos of Albicastro, who was actually German. Do they sound German or Italian? Sometimes it is hard to decide... Stylistic analysis, sadly, cannot prove anything. (@everyone:) In case you don't already know t

[LUTE] Re: looking for concordances

2019-06-21 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Unfortunately, I have none of those - but here's a hint: Check the Siena Ms. (last quarter) for the Toccata-like "fantasies". Also there are pieces by Amadeo Moretti in it (if this is your guy). If you find anything interesting, please also notify Peter Steur so he will include any new concorda

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Please don't call him JB. This is reserved for the great guitarist Jack Black :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUEOtxd_evI On 19.06.19 11:39, Edward C. Yong wrote: I have to agree. JB used his stardom to get the lute out there, even if it was a Frankenlute with nothing lute about it apart f

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Konrad Ragossnig :))) His recordings introduced me to lute music when I was young. Recently I discovered Walter Gerwig, an even earlier pioneer. Does anyone know something about his technique and instrument used? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MysjKhdug8g On 19.06.19 06:40, Jurgen Frenz wro

[LUTE] it's working.

2019-06-11 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Hi, my Tascam DR-07x is now working. The SD Card I had was not recognized and I had to buy a new one. Also, the exfat format on the card will not work in my specific Linux setup (this is not a general Linux thing, other distros can make it work). Fortunately, I have an old Macbook that can be

[LUTE] La Spiritata

2019-06-07 Thread Tristan von Neumann
o guessing. All motifs are clearly introduced in the Raga and developed in Gabrieli's piece. Also, the rhythm changes in La Spiritata correspond to those in the Sikh Hymn. If you don't like it, please refrain from opening a tiresome discussion. All others are invited to enjoy. https://s

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-06-05 Thread Tristan von Neumann
ordered the Tascam DR07x which he strongly recommeded to me. I'll upload some recordings when it has arrived. Thanks for all your advice! On 20.05.19 15:14, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Thank you! The new H4n Pro seems to have the preamps of the H6 - so the noise might be lower. Damn, th

[LUTE] Digital Scans of Table Books

2019-05-26 Thread Tristan von Neumann
While we're talking about the First Book of Songs: There are a couple of other interesting song books in table format. I like to print and bind them myself. I already made Pilkington, Jones and Corkine. Other scans online are in bad shape, but maybe I missed some of them. I am especially inte

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of songes

2019-05-25 Thread Tristan von Neumann
On 25.05.19 20:00, Alain Veylit wrote:  Dude, you lived in a completely patriarchal society and you still manage to blame her for torturing you! ) I knew it!!! Queen Elizabeth was a man!!! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/inde

[LUTE] Re: Dürer's African Man and Neusiedler's weird dances

2019-05-23 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Geez Rainer, can you be more arrogant? At least enlighten me with the conclusions of Gombosii and Heartz and on what those are based. I am sick of getting referred to paywalled articles. I was reporting this intercultural incident, not claiming this is really true. But as Howard said, I was th

[LUTE] Dürer's African Man and Neusiedler's weird dances

2019-05-22 Thread Tristan von Neumann
A weird thing happened when I was playing in the cellar of my home pub. (I do this sometimes, it's a small room next to another room with a foosball table. Good acoustics, and it sparks conversations). A bunch of West African guys came to sit around me. I was playing from the Siena Manuscript. I

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-20 Thread Tristan von Neumann
½, 20 Ð¼Ð°Ñ 2019 г., 15:36 Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>: Yes I read about that - but it can be used as an USB sound processing device then, or does it only recharge or read files? On 20.05.19 12:26, Ralf Mattes wrote: > &g

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-20 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Yes I read about that - but it can be used as an USB sound processing device then, or does it only recharge or read files? On 20.05.19 12:26, Ralf Mattes wrote: Am Sonntag, 19. Mai 2019 19:06 CEST, Tristan von Neumann schrieb: It seems the Zoom can be powered by USB when recording at the

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-19 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Well then - my decision will now be between the Tascam DR-07x and the Zoom H4n Pro. It seems the Zoom can be powered by USB when recording at the computer? If not, I would tend to buy the Tascam with longer battery life. Both seem to be decent USB sound devices. What I recognized was that the T

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann
    On 5/18/2019 8:06 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote:   > Roman, just NO. :)   >   >   > Why would I want an iPhone. Or even a phone with a computer in it.   >   > My old Motorola Razr V9 looks good and doesn't need to recharge   every   >

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Tristan von Neumann
o stations but I suspect the cheaper models cut corners on solidity. Best, Matthew Le 17 mai 2019 à 17:29, Tristan von Neumann <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> a écrit : > Dear collective experience, > > > while we're at it: &

[LUTE] decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear collective experience, while we're at it: I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device. What I want: * use it at home to record lute music and other instruments (* use it as a usb mic) * take it with me and record in the park or pub or wherever a session might come along

[LUTE] Re: weirdest passamezzi

2019-05-15 Thread Tristan von Neumann
;C-Bu' (yup, just cecked ...). Cheers, RalfD Am Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2019 17:26 CEST, Tristan von Neumann schrieb: Playing through Wurstisen Vol. 5 is a lot of fun. Check out these curiosities. Funky Chords and Groovy Rhythms: http://gerbode.net/sources/C-Bu_university_library_basel/

[LUTE] weirdest passamezzi

2019-05-15 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Playing through Wurstisen Vol. 5 is a lot of fun. Check out these curiosities. Funky Chords and Groovy Rhythms: http://gerbode.net/sources/C-Bu_university_library_basel/ms_F.IX.70_Wurstisen_lute_book/v5_passamezzos/pdf/011_passamezzo+saltarello_af.pdf http://gerbode.net/sources/C-Bu_universit

[LUTE] Re: Funky Chords in Lute Literature

2019-05-12 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Alas, there is no Chitarrone in my house... On 12.05.19 14:11, Ralf Mattes wrote: Am Sonntag, 12. Mai 2019 14:00 CEST, "Ralf Mattes" schrieb: There are to Gesualdo pieces in Kapsberger's third book for chitarrone. "Two" - off course. Cheers, RalfD To get on or off this list se

[LUTE] Re: Funky Chords in Lute Literature

2019-05-11 Thread Tristan von Neumann
20th century. https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Gesualdo%2C_Carlo. If you want to go straight to the source, there are a number of facsimiles under the Collections tab. Guy -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann

[LUTE] Funky Chords in Lute Literature

2019-05-11 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I just stumbled across this little gem of a Passamezzo found in Vol. 5 of the Wurstisen Lute Book and instantly had to record it. https://tristanvonneumann.bandcamp.com/track/46-passamezzo-f-d-d-wurstisen-lute-book-vol-5 The interesting thing about it is the use of power chords. I am sure this

[LUTE] Re: PS to Re: De Visee

2019-05-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Well then - are there any recordings? On 10.05.19 17:23, Ralf Mattes wrote: Am Freitag, 10. Mai 2019 16:38 CEST, Tristan von Neumann schrieb: .. and no one ever plays Francesco with plectrum-thimbles!!! That's not true. I experimented with finger picks during the 90th, using &#

[LUTE] Re: PS to Re: De Visee

2019-05-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I don't understand this discussion. There are clearly arguments for both playing styles. .. and no one ever plays Francesco with plectrum-thimbles!!! On 10.05.19 16:27, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Dear Lex, I really don't want to keep going over this same ground all the time - I do have

[LUTE] Re: De Visee

2019-05-08 Thread Tristan von Neumann
That sounds very exciting. How is it that we seldom experience such delight on an album? I frequently encounter descriptions of music that is never recreated in the same way. I remember a CD with lute orchestra from BIS records, and Rolf Lislevand has done some stuff that goes into the directio

[LUTE] Re: French tab prints - why 5 lines?

2019-05-04 Thread Tristan von Neumann
-Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of Dan Winheld Sent: 03 May 2019 03:24 To: Tristan von Neumann ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: French tab prints - why 5 lines? Inertia. On 5/2/2019 7:00 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Here's a question: Why do

[LUTE] Re: French tab prints - why 5 lines?

2019-05-04 Thread Tristan von Neumann
ed. That saves paper and fits more music onto each page. So I would say that it was the most cost effective and efficient way to print the kind of repertoire he was dealing with. Best wishes, Denys -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of Dan Winheld

[LUTE] French tab prints - why 5 lines?

2019-05-02 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Here's a question: Why do French prints have 5 lines for the 6 course instrument? Early manuscripts like Pesaro  (but not all of them, like BSB Mus. Ms. 2987) already employ six lines. While 5 lines in Ms. can be explained by the use of the same 5-point pen used for the lines of staff notation,

[LUTE] Re: Reymann

2019-05-01 Thread Tristan von Neumann
nh...@lmi.net> Date: 5/1/19 7:27 PM (GMT-07:00) To: magnus andersson <[3]maan7...@yahoo.com>, Tristan von Neumann <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>, [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reymann Congratulations Tristan and Magnus- you have gotten me interested in

[LUTE] Re: Albert de Rippe in manuscripts

2019-04-28 Thread Tristan von Neumann
fol. 10v: see FdaM edition, Appendix 24 (Francesco da Parigi) = CWrippe I, fols. 6v-8. -Original Message- From: Tristan von Neumann To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sun, Apr 28, 2019 9:45 am Subject: [LUTE] Albert de Rippe in manuscripts "Dear Collective

[LUTE] Albert de Rippe in manuscripts

2019-04-28 Thread Tristan von Neumann
"Dear Collective Wisdom" (I like that!) Besides the Marsh lute book, are there any manuscripts containing fantasies by Albert de Rippe? :) T* To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Leonardo da Vinci and the lute

2019-04-28 Thread Tristan von Neumann
The ensemble Doucle Mémoire is currently touring with a Leonardo programme (duh...:)) Maybe something can be learned. Also there is an album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdqfSk2J0Zs http://www.doulcememoire.com/en/programmes/leonard-de-vinci-la-musique-secrete/ On 28.04.19 09:42, Andr

[LUTE] Reymann

2019-04-26 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Just got my hands on Noctes Musicae 1598 by Matthaeus Reymann. Has anyone played it? I am amazed that there is absolutely no recording of this amazing very original music. The collection has huge choral and other fantasies with lots of great ideas, and especially pavans that rival the fantastic

[LUTE] Re: Question on strumming madrigals.

2019-04-25 Thread Tristan von Neumann
ed strings - similar to the lyre technique seen below. And very musical performance to boot. Best Wishes  - Luke On 25-Apr-2019 06:13, Tristan von Neumann wrote: This video by Prof. Stefan Hagel, specialized in Ancient Greek Music, is very interesting as it leads to a question that is linge

[LUTE] Re: Question on strumming madrigals.

2019-04-25 Thread Tristan von Neumann
]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 15:58, Tristan von Neumann <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: Also, I have enough to work on the fingering itself - and I still haven't found out how to play the sometimes occurring

[LUTE] Re: Question on strumming madrigals.

2019-04-25 Thread Tristan von Neumann
<[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf � �of Tristan von Neumann <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> � �Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 5:13 AM � �To: [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu � �Subject: [LUTE] Question on strumming madrigals. � �This video by Pr

[LUTE] Question on strumming madrigals.

2019-04-24 Thread Tristan von Neumann
This video by Prof. Stefan Hagel, specialized in Ancient Greek Music, is very interesting as it leads to a question that is lingering for a while now that has been addressed here as I recall - and it pops up whenever I see chords that require more than 4 fingers in the right hand. First enjoy som

[LUTE] Re: Silk Strings

2019-04-24 Thread Tristan von Neumann
_ From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of Tristan von Neumann Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 6:29 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Silk Strings And I'm kind of answering to myself after having browsed further material. It seems aforementioned LP K

[LUTE] Re: Silk Strings

2019-04-24 Thread Tristan von Neumann
quite nice. RA __ From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of Tristan von Neumann Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 6:29 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Silk Strings And I'm ki

[LUTE] Re: Silk Strings

2019-04-23 Thread Tristan von Neumann
al - I read that Guqin strings last for years and even get better with time, I guess this should be the same with lute strings made from silk. On 24.04.19 06:20, Tristan von Neumann wrote: ..yes, I'm back... But I will not talk about India. Here's something I was wondering, becaus

[LUTE] Silk Strings

2019-04-23 Thread Tristan von Neumann
..yes, I'm back... But I will not talk about India. Here's something I was wondering, because of the ever-present stringing question. (I'm using nylon fishing line right now, also for the (double) frets, it's ok.) But silk has been an interesting alternative since my experiments with dental f

[LUTE] Re: Pièce de Résistance

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I admit I did not check if the mail was sent privately. But considering the content, I am not really sorry. This could have been on the list anyway. and to round that off with something that brings joy to many an elect lute list member: I'll even UNSUBSCRIBE. Am 10.08.2018 um 20:20 schrieb

[LUTE] Re: Pièce de Résistance

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
ou will be a man of your word and keep this promise. Stephen -Original Message- From: Tristan von Neumann Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 12:20 PM To: lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Pièce de Résistance Since it seems that exactly no one is interested and the ones who listen to the tracks are too

[LUTE] Pièce de Résistance

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Since it seems that exactly no one is interested and the ones who listen to the tracks are too afraid to speak up, here's my final offer. In the future I will refrain from posting this topic. https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/bartolomeo-tromboncino-frottola-ostinato-voi-seguire

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
You're right Jim, and many paintings by renowned artists show bawdy stuff to back up your claim. Why would a musician not tackle the same stuff? Also, in such dire times some fun would surely have been welcome. I am surprised about the lack of common sense applied to history. These were not a

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
aped objects). But, I have done 12-bar blues/Passamezzo Antico mashups on my own. Generally much later in the evening, with imbibable assists from single malt Scottish mash-ups. -And NONE of the lute-lists damn business! Dan W. On 8/10/2018 7:02 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Why are the onl

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
to hear what tou heard without providing any vigorous explanation. Maybe it's telling that no body else seems to hear what you hear. P. S. Are my messages coming out indented correctly? On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 05:40 Tristan von Neumann <[1][3]tristanvo

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
seems to hear what you hear. P. S. Are my messages coming out indented correctly? On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 05:40 Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: Dear Jurgen, do you consider this an illusion too? [2]https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-ne

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Or this? https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/bertali-sonata-in-g-a-8-nicolai-sonata-in-c-a-2-raga-kamod-eri-jaane-na-doongi-nirali-kartik Am 10.08.2018 um 04:39 schrieb Tristan von Neumann: Dear Jurgen, do you consider this an illusion too? https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
ok, you win *sigh* Am 10.08.2018 um 09:35 schrieb howard posner: On Aug 10, 2018, at 12:07 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: We already established that Lasso was a serious composer, and that serious does not mean stick up his ass. We established that you don’t know the meaning of the

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
n Aug 9, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Sorry, I'm German. What would you choose? "Dedicated" seems more like it? No, someone with a stick up his ass is not “dedicated.” Try stuffy, priggish, prim, rigid, pompous, prissy, stiff, starched, sanctimonious, prudish,

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Sorry, I'm German. What would you choose? "Dedicated" seems more like it? Am 10.08.2018 um 05:48 schrieb howard posner: On Aug 9, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: I meant serious in the sense that he had a stick up his a**. That’s not what “serious” means.

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I meant serious in the sense that he had a stick up his a**. He certainly seems like a funny guy to hang around with. The output of Sacred music does not detract from that. :) Am 10.08.2018 um 05:13 schrieb howard posner: On Aug 9, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Lasso was

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Jurgen, do you consider this an illusion too? https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/siena-nos-59-63-62-raga-kamod-eri-jaane-na-doongi-nirali-kartik How do you explain this? Listen to the *tonal* percussion and where the lute goes into cadence. How do you explain that the harmonium

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Lasso was *not* a serious composer. He composed the announcement music for the "Gümpelsbrunn Nose Dance" (an early teaser trailer for an event...), but the festival is probably legendary because no town named Gümpelsbrunn is known. :) Also, he wrote a letter to his Patron, the Duke of Bavaria

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 9 August 2018 9:26 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Dear Jürgen, posting an article about the Illusory Truth Effect does not in anyway touch my findings, as the mere existence of such effect

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
e that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 9 August 2018 2:07 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: This version is even better. Imagine this is the late 16th century singing by the Donne di Ferrara or similar groups... https://soundcloud.com

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei // Contrapunto Secondo BM - Eri Jaane Na Doongi

2018-08-08 Thread Tristan von Neumann
e (I think this has happened even). Nevertheless, the clear structure made it suitable for this mix. https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/vincenzo-galilei-contrapunto-secondo-bm-eri-jaane-na-doongi-nirali-kartik-long Am 08.08.2018 um 22:53 schrieb Tristan von Neumann: Again, when you thi

[LUTE] Vincenzo Galilei // Contrapunto Secondo BM - Eri Jaane Na Doongi

2018-08-08 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Again, when you think it can't get any better... This Raga performance is so close to the infamous BM Counterpoint - note the percussion. https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/vincenzo-galilei-contrapunto-secondo-bm-raga-kamod-nirali-kirtak To get on or off this list see

[LUTE] Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-08 Thread Tristan von Neumann
This version is even better. Imagine this is the late 16th century singing by the Donne di Ferrara or similar groups... https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/francesco-siena-no-62-eri-jaane-na-doongi-raga-kamod-nirali-kartik-version-iii Am 08.08.2018 um 19:22 schrieb Tristan von

[LUTE] Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-08 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Lutists, Francesco and Ganassi fans will rejoice over this sweet unification as Ronu Majumdar plays quite some improv "over" the Francesco background. https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/siena-62-francesco-raga-kamod-ronu-majumdar Sorry for the not so beautiful pla

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Courante

2018-08-08 Thread Tristan von Neumann
While we're at it - a while ago I wondered about a galliard in Vincenzo Galilei's Tabulatura that seems like a template for Can Shee Excuse. It's probably in the mailing list archive. I had not received any thoughts about it but would be interested if someone had an explanation. Am 08.08.2018

[LUTE] Composers you wish had a bigger legacy

2018-08-04 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Hi Lutists, which are your favourite composers who left a very small yet amazing oeuvre? I'll start with Giovanni Albuzio... it's such a pity that nothing but two amazing fantasies survived. What's Your favorite one or two hit wonder? :) To get on or off this list see list information at h

[LUTE] Re: More dots

2018-08-04 Thread Tristan von Neumann
It is - and I recommend playing the Ricercars for their excessive use of it - you don't get better exercise in holding notes. :) Am 04.08.2018 um 14:48 schrieb Leonard Williams: What is the significance of the double-"x" after some notes? Is this a hold sign? Leonard -Ori

[LUTE] Re: More dots

2018-08-03 Thread Tristan von Neumann
ions are nice, too. Pardon the weird formatting above. Sean On Aug 3, 2018 5:37 PM, "Tristan von Neumann" <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: I guess the most logical way is to play the run with index and middle finger (not dedillo), it's

[LUTE] Re: More dots

2018-08-03 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I guess the most logical way is to play the run with index and middle finger (not dedillo), it's also most convenient. Sounds great if played with panache. Albert de Rippe has some similar dotting in his style and it makes sense. For my taste, this gives more control over the brightness and cla

[LUTE] Re: Dont vient cela

2018-08-03 Thread Tristan von Neumann
This happens when a German who can't understand French hears the title and writes it down. If pronounced German style, it would sound like "Dou vèn tselà" :) Am 04.08.2018 um 00:10 schrieb Alain Veylit: Among the various spellings of the famous "Dont vient cela" tune I found : "Du Wentzela Ein

[LUTE] Siena No. 38 - Raga Bhairavi Mix (warning, pretentious lute playing)

2018-08-02 Thread Tristan von Neumann
https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/siena-manuscript-no-38-fantasy-in-mode-3-miyan-tansen-raga-bhairavi Of Interest: The upcoming dissertation by Lisa Herrmann-Fertig at Würzburg University about musical transfer in India involving German Jesuit missions around 1700. She has personally to

[LUTE] Re: The Dark Lord;'s Music

2018-07-31 Thread Tristan von Neumann
e Cherbury Lute book? Jurgen -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 1 August 2018 8:56 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Today, the CD arrived in the mail. Thank you Martin Eastwell for th

[LUTE] Re: The Dark Lord;'s Music

2018-07-31 Thread Tristan von Neumann
approach to some dances, and some fantasies are played with a sweet brooding mood. I would recommend this album for anyone who wants a closer look at the sounds of Herbert's album. Am 14.07.2018 um 22:42 schrieb Tristan von Neumann: I just bought one - the price was very reaso

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-27 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Sounds great! I'd be happy to play this one, as I only have 7 courses available :) Am 27.07.2018 um 05:09 schrieb Ed Durbrow: I have made a version of the Gianoncelli for 7 course lute, if you are interested. On Jul 25, 2018, at 6:51 PM, spiffys84121 wrote: The Gianoncelli Bergamesca fr

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-27 Thread Tristan von Neumann
onnerstag, 26. Juli 2018 20:44 CEST, Tristan von Neumann schrieb: Musicians and Music Theorists are rarely one and the same person :) Sorry, but that's the biggest bulls**t I've ever heard! Tinctoris (choir master, composer and most likely a singer)? Gafurius (composer, maestro di

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Musicians and Music Theorists are rarely one and the same person :) It is not necessary to name or classify anything while making music - Music Theory is mostly after the fact. Theory is taught, but novelties appear regardless - see Monteverdi and Artusi. Am 26.07.2018 um 19:11 schrieb Leonard

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-25 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Not quite Italian but extremely rewarding is the setting in Bésard. http://gerbode.net/sources/Besard/thesaurus_harmonicus_1603/book_05/pdf/187_bergamasco.pdf Am 25.07.2018 um 11:31 schrieb Martin Shepherd: Hi All, Can anyone recommend a Bergamasca (or whatever you want to call it with a I-I

[LUTE] Re: New book by Dr. G. Spiessens about the lute intheSouthernNetherlands

2018-07-16 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Rainer, go ahead and try anyway! I once had to read Dutch articles in Wikipedia because they were the only one. It's slow at first, but you will get it after a while, especially if you also know English. Platt is sometimes more difficult than Dutch :) Am 15.07.2018 um 18:14 schrieb Rainer: O

[LUTE] Re: Perino Fiorentino

2018-07-14 Thread Tristan von Neumann
d by Pierino himself. Arthur Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: Tristan von Neumann To: lutelist Net Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2018 1:37 pm Subject: [LUTE] Perino Fiorentino Dear Lutists, whenever I (at least try to) play Perino, it's such a magical experience. I reall

[LUTE] Re: The Dark Lord;'s Music

2018-07-14 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I just bought one - the price was very reasonable. Couldn't prelisten, but I trust You must be a good lute player because these pieces are extremely tricky. I would love to play these, but I guess it will take more time, so I at least want to listen to them. One piece I would have liked to he

[LUTE] Perino Fiorentino

2018-07-14 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Lutists, whenever I (at least try to) play Perino, it's such a magical experience. I really like this guy. Is there any source I may have overlooked, apart from the Francesco collection and the Siena Lute Book? Thanks:) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes

2018-07-14 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Thank You Ron for this very poignant post! What can be read between the lines, and what also came up in many discussions I had about music: Many people forget that music in the 16th century was not made to please a great mass of uneducated people, but highly educated patrons you would even t

[LUTE] Re: Starting Theorbo

2018-07-10 Thread Tristan von Neumann
The Doni Lutebook has many rewarding yet easy pieces: http://gerbode.net/sources/doni_MS_1640/pdf/ Am 11.07.2018 um 00:11 schrieb George Arndt: Dear Collected Wisdom: I have rented a small theorbo from the American Lute Society for one year to learn how to play it. What easy piece

[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

2018-07-06 Thread Tristan von Neumann
How do you play on double metal strings? I recently tried to play lute pieces on a 12 string guitar, but I almost got blisters... I imagine on a small instrument the strings a thin and have quite some tension? What's Your technique? Am 05.07.2018 um 23:04 schrieb G. C.: Hi All, afte

[LUTE] Re: Finger Fracture

2018-07-04 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Though I never broke a finger, I was told by various people that it is imperative that You use an injured limb as early as you can, even if it hurts, to ensure that it heals in a way that it returns to its normal function. Splints or plasters kept too long are said to result in stiffness or imp

[LUTE] Re: Why Bach needed to see Buxtehude

2018-06-29 Thread Tristan von Neumann
No worries, no harm done :) One word about copyright and "pirating" music: Various studies of purchasing behaviour have shown that regardless of music being pirated or not, if an album is worth buying, it will be bought. People who collect pirated music would not have bought all the music any

[LUTE] Re: Why Bach needed to see Buxtehude

2018-06-29 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I was indeed - like Roman said - thinking that this is actually advertisement of Your album by the CD company. And I thought I'd recommend it to Your peers since it is a great album. If you do not wish Your album to be recommended, I will refrain from it in the future... Am 29.06.2018 um 17

[LUTE] Re: Why Bach needed to see Buxtehude

2018-06-29 Thread Tristan von Neumann
me and there is no other sensible explanation for the dedication of the sonata than being written for an Indian musician at the Persian court. https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/sets/reconstruction-of-a-concert-in Additionally, the source "Partiturbuch Ludwig" contains on

[LUTE] Why Bach needed to see Buxtehude

2018-06-28 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Another Kamod type Ciacona - Buxtehude really got it. How is this even possible? This is the closest to Indian Music I found (yet). https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/dietrich-buxtehude-sonata-iv-op-1-ciacona-raga-kamod-ronu-majumdar To get on or off this list see list information

[LUTE] G. Valentini - Sonata Enharmonica - Mystery solved

2018-06-26 Thread Tristan von Neumann
visation skills. Enjoy: https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/giovanni-valentini-sonata-enharmonica-raga-jaijaivanti-hariprasad-chaurasia-s To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Siena Lute Book

2018-06-21 Thread Tristan von Neumann
As always: First check Sarge Gerbode's massive archive! :) Sarge has typeset a great many editions by various people and also done a lot of stuff himself, like the Cavalcanti Lute Book (great Neapolitan resource with texts!). There is a complete French tab edition of Siena: http://gerbode.net/

[LUTE] Indian instruments as backing track for lute practice - experience.

2018-06-15 Thread Tristan von Neumann
gance). https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/improvised-prelude-siena-manuscript-no-83-tanpura-drone (The strings are Kastking all Nylon. The Diapasons are F 1.4mm, G is 1.2mm, C is 1mm. It's very low bass tension but I really like the sound because the octaves make it less dull. I t

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