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2010-01-07 Thread demery
I vote for two staves. It is more accurate and scholarly, IMHO. scholarly, ok; accurate?!? accuracy depends on the proofreader, between two forms of staff notation I would think the single-staff would be more likely to be accurate done by a human, but would expect no significant difference

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2010-01-07 Thread demery
Giuliani, maybe, but not Sor. more modern editions of Sor's music disagree, including F Noad. It is a challenge to show three-part polyphony on one staff, but far from impossible. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at

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2010-01-07 Thread chriswilke
Dana, --- On Thu, 1/7/10, dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote: From: dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us Subject: [LUTE] Re: Transcription To: Ed Durbrow edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp Cc: Bruno Correia bruno.l...@gmail.com, LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

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2010-01-07 Thread David Tayler
They don't read it, they just throw it on the scale :) Best to drop out immediately, career wise :) dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2010-01-06 Thread chriswilke
Bruno, My opinion regarding theorbo notation is for one staff in bass clef. With only ten frets on the neck, you'll never have to go higher then three lines for the rare passages that go up that high; with nothing below the tenth course in this particular book, you'll only have one ledger

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2010-01-06 Thread John Griffiths
But it is 10-course lute music, not theorbo. JG On 06/01/2010, at 12:07, [1]chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: Bruno, My opinion regarding theorbo notation is for one staff in bass clef. With only ten frets on the neck, you'll never have to go higher then three lines for the

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2010-01-06 Thread Christopher Stetson
Hi, Bruno, I've coincidentally been reacquainting myself with IHK recently and I'd personally go for double staff transcription, mainly since I assume most music profs, having at least some piano, are more comfortable with it. I agree that transcription of Kapsperger for guitar

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2010-01-06 Thread chriswilke
Bruno, Oops, sorry! I obviously mis-read your message and thought you meant the first theorbo book (this book uses 11 courses, anyway!). You clearly said lute book. The two staves for lute music always seems a bit superfluous for me. (Why do they do this? Is every single musicologist a

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2010-01-06 Thread Bruno Correia
Well, I thought about it. BTW most transcriptions are in double staff.. Thanks for the suggestion. 2010/1/6 Christopher Stetson [1]cstet...@smith.edu Hi, Bruno, I've coincidentally been reacquainting myself with IHK recently and I'd personally go for double staff

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2010-01-06 Thread Edward Martin
Hi, Bruno. Congratulations on your work. It seems to me it would be a wonderful dissertation. First of all, I would not do just a bass clef notation, as this is not for theorbo, but a 10 course lute. Secondly, I think in the world of academia, the double staff notation, i.e. keyboard

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2010-01-06 Thread Bruno Correia
Thank you very much Edward. I'll be working very hard to complete it this year. You are right about the double staff. John Griffiths has just given the same advice. Best wishes. 2010/1/6 Edward Martin [1...@gamutstrings.com Hi, Bruno. Congratulations on your

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2010-01-06 Thread Bruno Correia
Dear Chris, I Appreciate your comments. Read below please. 2010/1/6 [1]chriswi...@yahoo.com Bruno, Oops, sorry! I obviously mis-read your message and thought you meant the first theorbo book (this book uses 11 courses, anyway!). You clearly said lute book. The

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2010-01-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
still likely be frequently used/cited by guitarists. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of chriswi...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:19 AM To: List LUTELIST; Bruno Correia Subject: [LUTE] Re

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2010-01-06 Thread Ron Andrico
Bruno: The conventional two-stave keyboard transcription is probably the most useful and appropriate format for academic purposes. If you want the transcription to be user-friendly, you might follow Tim Crawford's lead and limit the space between staves. I would take care if you

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2010-01-06 Thread Peter Martin
Guitarists can read tablature, so it doesn't seem worth making a transcription into staff notation for them. For anyone else, I would favour treble and bass clefs, which permits a much clearer texture than a single staff does. P 2010/1/6 Eugene C. Braig IV [1]brai...@osu.edu

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2010-01-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Seems a legitimate point. Best, Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Martin Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:50 AM To: Lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Transcription Guitarists can read tablature, so

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2010-01-06 Thread Bruno Correia
Peter, That's exactly the conclusion I arrived. Treble and bass clefs seems to be a general agreement. Best. 2010/1/6 Peter Martin [1]peter.l...@gmail.com Guitarists can read tablature, so it doesn't seem worth making a transcription into staff notation for

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2010-01-06 Thread Bruno Correia
Hi Ron, 2010/1/6 Ron Andrico [1]praelu...@hotmail.com Bruno: The conventional two-stave keyboard transcription is probably the most useful and appropriate format for academic purposes. So I think. If you want the transcription to be user-friendly, you might follow Tim

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2010-01-06 Thread demery
Could anybody give his/her opinion about this issue: At the moment I am analysing the Kapsperger 1611 lute book for my Doc. dissertation. All the musical examples will be written with Django tab writer adding (automatically) its transcription. My question is: should the

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2010-01-06 Thread Andreas Schlegel
Kapsberger's first book for lute rerquires a 11 course instrument (p. 28-29). I'm just working on Kapsberger's instruments he used - a tricky question! Am 06.01.2010 um 18:09 schrieb Bruno Correia: Hi Ron, 2010/1/6 Ron Andrico [1]praelu...@hotmail.com Bruno: The conventional

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2010-01-06 Thread chriswilke
Ron, --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com wrote:    The conventional two-stave keyboard transcription is probably the most    useful and appropriate format for academic purposes. Sorry, but I disagree. Transcribing Kapsperger's music on two staves makes as much sense as

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2010-01-06 Thread Peter Martin
Giuliani, maybe, but not Sor. He published his Fantaisie opus 7 on two staves, with an Avertissement at the beginning to explain why this was so much better than using a single treble-clef stave. Although he abandoned the attempt for his other 62 opuses (opera?), I think he was

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2010-01-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:38 PM To: Lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Transcription Giuliani, maybe, but not Sor. He published his Fantaisie opus 7 on two staves, with an Avertissement at the beginning to explain why this was so much better than using a single treble-clef stave

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2010-01-06 Thread David van Ooijen
, January 06, 2010 4:38 PM To: Lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Transcription    Giuliani, maybe, but not Sor.   He published his Fantaisie opus 7 on    two staves, with an Avertissement at the beginning to explain why this    was so much better than using a single treble-clef stave.    Although he

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2010-01-06 Thread Ed Durbrow
I vote for two staves. It is more accurate and scholarly, IMHO. Economical? What, are you worrying about inconveniencing a few electrons? Or is it the paper? How many copies do you plan to print? My YEN2 On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:46 PM, Bruno Correia wrote: Could anybody give

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2010-01-06 Thread Bruno Correia
- From: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Martin Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:38 PM To: Lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Transcription Giuliani, maybe, but not Sor. He published his Fantaisie opus 7 on two

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2010-01-06 Thread Andreas Schlegel
The todays categories don't work for the decades from 1580 to 1620. It's a period in which several experiments were undertaken. As far I know there are only very vew persons who studied the instrumental development in this time: Linda Sayce and Renato Meucci, f.ex. So it's a field for deep

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2010-01-06 Thread David Tayler
- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Martin Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:38 PM To: Lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Transcription =A0 =A0Giuliani, maybe, but not Sor. =A0 He published his Fantaisie opus= 7 on =A0 =A0two staves