Good one, Roman! It is along the lines of Corneille's "l'effet se
recule" ("les fesses reculent"), or Swift's "Master Bates".
On 08/10/2018 04:06 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
Another Purcell item, priceless-
“On the night he was wedded quoth Inigo Jones etc,
...in I go Jones!”
Sent from
I doubt it. The lute was not a lower-class instrument, and a streetwalker
would not likely have one. It would be an expensive way to advertise in any
event. I suppose a courtesan might acquire one, but she wouldn’t be parading
around with it on the street; her services were, in theory,
Thanks Howard for this beautiful little scatological poem - Mozart did
have a sense of humour as his Musical joke seems to confirm.
I did find a mention for Purcell's questionable attributions at:
[1]https://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclopedia/1282/#cite_note-9:
"Purcell was probably
Irrespective of the ragas=renaissance pieces, (which I think is
bollocks, and I've been playing the sitar since the early 70s) it is
extremely bad nettiquette to publish mails to the list that have
clearly been sent as private correspondance!
Another question is: "What is S*P*A*M*?
"I am sure Tristan isn't a troll."
No, of course, pls. don't misunderstand!
I was kind of volunteering as a troll!
G.
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To get on or off this list see list information at
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I admit I did not check if the mail was sent privately.
But considering the content, I am not really sorry.
This could have been on the list anyway.
and to round that off with something that brings joy to many an elect
lute list member:
I'll even UNSUBSCRIBE.
Am 10.08.2018 um 20:20 schrieb
I adive you all to refrain from personal attacks. Regardless of the
theory's merits or lack thereof, we should all stay civil and assume
good faith. I am sure Tristan isn't a troll.
Tristan:
If you ever write down your theory in a clear manner, I am sure we will
all read it. Good
well, there are still "two-bit" deals out there, but those are too
risky, in this day and age.
RT
On 8/10/2018 10:41 AM, Daniel Winheld wrote:
I can't even remember when 2 cents would get me anything at all, with
a lady and her lute.
DW
On 8/10/2018 7:38 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
You
I don't about others, but it seems an awfully vegetarian curry to me.
RT
On 8/10/2018 10:02 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
So, officially I ask the list:
Does anyone of you support anything I say?
To get on or off this list see list information at
LOL
On ven, 10 ago 2018 16:38:14 +0200 wrote
You have truly long reaching memories!
RT
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Luca Manassero <[1]l...@manassero.net>
wrote:
>
> As far as I remember, a lady walking with a lute in Venezia (XVIth
Thanks Dan for the input.
What do I want? Share this with musicians for improved music making
experiences.
I want to bring attention to the idea, not to myself.
As I said many times - if someone wants to dig with me, go ahead and
find interesting stuff and tell us.
I'm addressing the lute
You're right Jim,
and many paintings by renowned artists show bawdy stuff to back up your
claim. Why would a musician not tackle the same stuff?
Also, in such dire times some fun would surely have been welcome.
I am surprised about the lack of common sense applied to history. These
were not
I can't even remember when 2 cents would get me anything at all, with a
lady and her lute.
DW
On 8/10/2018 7:38 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
You have truly long reaching memories!
RT
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 10, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Luca Manassero wrote:
As far as I remember, a lady
Alright, I give up. Tristan- what exactly do you want? Attention? You
got that. Universal love & agreement? Wrong planet, (or universe).
Honorary Doctorate of the Raga-Mezzo Mashup phenomenon? Don't apply to a
lute list!
It's been an interesting (at times), but finally a tiresome ride you've
BTW,
I realize that I haven't posted any vindaloo here in a while, and I have
at least a dozen new Ukrainian and Danish ragas by Trond Bengtson,
Stuart Walsh and Diego Leveric on my Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/lute88/videos?view=0=dd=grid
RT
On 8/10/2018 11:17 AM, Tristan
You have truly long reaching memories!
RT
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Luca Manassero wrote:
>
> As far as I remember, a lady walking with a lute in Venezia (XVIth
> century) was considered a prostitute.
> My 2 cents,
> Luca
> On ven, 10 ago 2018 12:57:44
I'd say it's more than likely named for prostitutes, and Purcell very
likely wrote the dirty stuff, especially after the Chapel Royal purge
forced him to chase other income streams⦠Plus wan't he supposed to be
rather fond of singing in the pub?
I think we often underestimate the
Dear Tristan
You ask us to speak up, so I shall:
In my opinion all you propose is wishfull listening, and nothing else.
Therefore I cannot support your ideas.
Sorry, but you asked, and I'm not afraid to answer. From my end this is
the end of discussion and I shall not make any
Since it seems that exactly no one is interested and the ones who listen
to the tracks are too afraid to speak up, here's my final offer.
In the future I will refrain from posting this topic.
Dear friends,
do not neglect the fact that Chris Wilke and I are producing our 2nd CD
of Ukrainian Baroque-Lute Ragas -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJAtEUnckps
and the recording sessions have occurred last weekend in New York City!
Your rupees can support the editing:
Stpehen,
thanks for really admitting you did not even try.
> I must say, however, that beim
> besten Willen und Gewissen I simply cannot detect any similarity
> whatsoever beyond the fact that both pieces are music, consist of notes
> played simultaneously or successively, and are played on
Harmonium lends itself to Ukrainian music amazingly well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCtpFZ4LuN4
RT
On 8/10/2018 7:41 AM, Ido Shdaimah wrote:
Dear Tristan,
The Harmonium isn't traditionally used Indian Classical music:
In Indian music, only the Swaras (notes) Pa and Sa are set
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 2:37 AM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> Just curious: did Mozart compose anything we'd consider "bawdy" or tavern
> material??
I don’t know about tavern, but there’s plenty of Mozart that’s not fit for
church. Mozart’s “naughty” humor tended toward the juvenile: buttocks,
I know of a 'Trinkkanon' by Mozart: This is the text (in German of course!):
Freunde, lasset uns beim Zechen
wacker eine Lanze brechen!
Es leb' der Wein,
die Liebste mein!
Drauf leer' sein Gläschen jeder aus.
Mit euch ist gar nichts anzufangen,
da sitzt ihr still wie Hopfenstangen.
Sie lebe
I, also, find these emails on a supposed connexion between Renaissance lute
music and Indian music to be tedious and exceedingly uninteresting.
Edward C. Yong
τούτο ηλεκτρονικόν ταχυδρομείον εκ είΦωνου εμεύ επέμφθη.
Hæ litteræ electronicæ ab iPhono missæ sunt.
此電子郵件發送于自吾iPhone。
This
ok, you win *sigh*
Am 10.08.2018 um 09:35 schrieb howard posner:
On Aug 10, 2018, at 12:07 AM, Tristan von Neumann
wrote:
We already established that Lasso was a serious composer, and that serious does
not mean stick up his ass.
We established that you don’t know the meaning of the
Or this?
https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/bertali-sonata-in-g-a-8-nicolai-sonata-in-c-a-2-raga-kamod-eri-jaane-na-doongi-nirali-kartik
Am 10.08.2018 um 04:39 schrieb Tristan von Neumann:
Dear Jurgen,
do you consider this an illusion too?
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 12:07 AM, Tristan von Neumann
> wrote:
>
> We already established that Lasso was a serious composer, and that serious
> does not mean stick up his ass.
We established that you don’t know the meaning of the English word “serious.”
> I asked what adjective you wish to
I seem to remember reading about Purcell being particularly targeted by
this kind of mirthy-ful mis-attribution. My memory can well be wrong.
Most of Purcell's music was published posthumously and it was very
prolific (800 works for someone who died at age 36). Playford, the
publisher of the
I wonder how you always choose to misunderstand.
It's not humorous, just annoying.
We already established that Lasso was a serious composer, and that
serious does not mean stick up his ass.
I asked what adjective you wish to apply to describe Lasso.
I suggested dedicated, which can also imply
Dear Ido,
I am well aware that the Harmonium is not an Indian instrument.
Also You are telling me what I told everyone on the list a while ago.
If you criticize my mashups you should at least read what I have written
before on that topic.
BTW it is not even true that the harmonium is
As far as I remember, a lady walking with a lute in Venezia (XVIth
century) was considered a prostitute.
My 2 cents,
Luca
On ven, 10 ago 2018 12:57:44 +0200
r.turov...@gmail.com wrote
Lute in a brothel was a large Dutch sarcasm, lute being a symbol of
domestic
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 17:38, Alain Veylit
<[1]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote:
Just imagine if J.S. Bach was credited by a contemporary publisher
with
a song entitled "Once, twice, thrice, I Julia tried", would that
raise
an eye brow?? Just curious: did Mozart
Once, Twice, Thrice has unmistakable Purcell musicality. So...
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> I seem to remember reading about Purcell being particularly targeted by this
> kind of mirthy-ful mis-attribution. My memory can well be wrong. Most of
>
Another Purcell item, priceless-
“On the night he was wedded quoth Inigo Jones etc,
..in I go Jones!”
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> I seem to remember reading about Purcell being particularly targeted by this
> kind of mirthy-ful mis-attribution.
Dear Tristan,
The Harmonium isn't traditionally used Indian Classical music:
In Indian music, only the Swaras (notes) Pa and Sa are set on exact
points. The other Sawaras vary within ranges called Swarakshetras. The
maximal and minimal points are called Shrutis, and there are 22 of
Lute in a brothel was a large Dutch sarcasm, lute being a symbol of domestic
harmony in the baroque visual symbolism.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 9, 2018, at 6:25 PM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> There is a piece in Dd.2.11 entitled: "Catin" (by Orlando di Lasso!).
> Yesterday I saw one entitled
Many months ago I decided to flag Tristan von Neumann's emails as
spam. He appeared impervious to reasoned thought and only wished to
put across a cranky assertion based on very little actual hard evidence
rather than his coincidental speculation. I even wondered whether the
whole
Why are the only people discussing do not use any real arguments,
instead those from the eristics bin?
So, officially I ask the list:
Does anyone of you support anything I say?
There are statistics in soundcloud, so I know not just two people are
playing the tracks.
Don't be afraid to speak
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