[LUTE] Re: 15th century duo (left-handers playing right-handedly)

2014-06-07 Thread G. C.
Hi, An alternative that works for me is to grow a healthy thumb-nail. Then pinch thumb and index together, like as if holding a plectrum and use the nail as a plectrum. You can file down the nail to suit your preference of sound, as well as strike the course (string) from different angles, and op

[LUTE] Re: Birds

2014-06-17 Thread G. C.
Piece nr. two in Mouton's "Pieces de Luth" is a tombeau for the parrot Gogo. But this is for baroque lute, so perhaps you cannot use it? G. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Cancionero music

2014-07-25 Thread G. C.
Great Ariel! Thanks G. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04b22gv To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

2018-01-22 Thread G. C.
Si Antonio, very convincing. So the extra peg was perhaps an apendage from an even earlier time, 14th-15th c.? Funny that Sor /Aguado should have reinvented the DCC for their Guitars! G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/l

[LUTE] Programma di radio svizzera (30 min.)

2018-01-23 Thread G. C.
Mezza hora di canto e liuto con Jacob Lindberg e Anna Emilsson per tutti lei qui parlano italiano. [1]https://www.rsi.ch/rete-due/programmi/cultura/quilisma/ Quando-la-musica-viene-dal-freddo-8701525.html Cordiali saluti Giorgio -- References 1. https://www.rsi.ch/rete-d

[LUTE] Re: Four and Twenty Fiddlers: The Violin at the English Court, 1540-1690

2018-01-28 Thread G. C.
Lieber Rainer, lass doch nicht die besoffenen Kommentare eines vollkommen unbekanten Narres, zu solche dramatische Konsequenz führen. Wir brauchen dich noch alle! Viele Grüsse G. On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Four and Twenty Fiddlers: The Violin at the English Court, 1540-1690

2018-01-28 Thread G. C.
Ron wrote: In the past, I have observed (as I do) that the lion's share of posts cropping up on the lute list fall into one of three categories: 1) Selfies (look at my new video, instrument, cat...), 2) Discussions about strings (animal intestines good, plastic bad), and 3)

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread G. C.
Yes, 25 pounds for a "free download" :D G. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote: Have you received a reply? Rainer On 20.01.2018 10:52, Matteo Turri wrote: We are pleased to offer complete digital copies of the followi

[LUTE] Unknown manuscript

2018-01-31 Thread G. C.
Dear All, I recently stumbled onto this @ the Swiss Radio. [1]https://www.rsi.ch/rete-due/programmi/cultura/quilisma/ Amor-di-liuto-9518098.html (If you run the page url through google translate, the translation is quite acceptable.) The half hour podcast is about an obscure lu

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread G. C.
Dear Ralph, A quick search of the "Digitale Bibliothek" doesn't seem to show any "new" lute related material though. Have you found any? Best G. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Ralf Mattes <[1]r...@mh-freiburg.de> wrote: Am Mittwoch, 3

[LUTE] Re: Unknown manuscript

2018-01-31 Thread G. C.
Thank you Tristan for the article. No, I haven't found an online facsimile. The library in question, Biblioteca del Conservatorio S. Pitro a Majella does not provide any on their site. G. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:30 PM, Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
When looking at the Gaultier pieces in Cherbury, I recall a recent discussion on the possibility of these being by Ennemond in vieil ton. All these pieces are very short and I must say rather pedestrian, and not indicative of the great fame of Ennemond. Thurston Dart in his 1957 arti

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
Dear Jean Marie, I beg to differ about the quality of these little sketches, but look forward to an informed edition with the "motorized" versions. In the meantime it would be helpful with a concordance list for these short Gaultier pieces in the old tuning. Best wishes G. O

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
Dear Ron, I have the 1966 CNRS edition. Nowhere in it, is the L. Herbert mentioned, other than in the "Table des Sigles". No concordances. Do I have a too old edition? I find, that the quality of these short pieces in Cherbury are unfortunately in no way convincing! Kindly e

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
Thanks a lot Peter! and for all your work. Fantastic! In this matter, I still register / The following numbers apply: 88-no concordances 101-no concordances 102-no concordances 107-2 concordances 109-no concordances 119-no concordance 120-2 concordances 127-2 concor

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
Great that you feel that way, Ron. I'm just saying, that comparing to what there is of real quality music for the lute out there, and trying to keep in mind, the "high reputation" of Ennemond Gaultier, I'm sadly, not at all impressed by these alleged simple courantes and voltas in Ch

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
PS. And of course, I meant to say "you and Jean-Marie" SORRY! :D On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:27 PM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: Great that you feel that way, Ron. I'm just saying, that comparing to what there is of real quality music f

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread G. C.
I was not aware of lord Herbert's Jacques Gaultier extradition letter (found on Alain's site). The fact that some of the pieces have concordances in both Besard (1603) and Varietie (1610), also exclude Jacques. By the way, Alain, you should look at the concordances by Peter Steur

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread G. C.
And Jacob Reys (1545 - 1605) "never played so well as when he was drunk" according to contemporary documents. No reports of any "stoned" luteplayers though, although they have apparently found traces of both coca and hemp in pipes in Shakespeares home (if this is not just another ins

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-02 Thread G. C.
Alain, Look at GB-Cfm689 Best G On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Alain Veylit <[1]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: Pondering about the Gautier pieces in Cherbury/concordances: I was not able to determine -- References 1. mailto:al...@musickshandmad

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-03 Thread G. C.
Track list from O'Dette's CD / Piece number Veylit's edition) 1. 112 2. 119 3. 127 4. 130 5. 121 6. 105 7. 199 8. 146 9. 143 10. 144 11. 196 12. 217 13. 209 14. 225 15. 227 16. 35 17. 39 18. 70 (differen

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-03 Thread G. C.
55 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: > > We do learn at all ages indeed ;-)! > Au passage, thank you Alain for all your hard work so useful to all of us ! > Jen-Marie > > > Le 2 févr. 2018 Ã 11:10, G. C. [2]<[3]kalei...@gmail.com> a Ã

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-03 Thread G. C.
I forgot, there is a lengthy passage in Mathew Spring's book about this matter. And also interesting is, that there is a connection with lord Herbert and Ennemond with the Mont...(?) family. G. [1]https://www.antiquestradegazette.com/news/2016/jacobean-miniature- acquired-by-natio

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-04 Thread G. C.
@ Google books, some more info on Jacques Gaultier from the 2013 Utrecht lute symposium. Article by Matthew Spring starts on page 120. Unfortunately, the last few pages of the article are not displayed. [1]https://books.google.no/books?id=Aev6DAAAQBAJ&pg=PA125&lpg=PA125&dq= herbert+c

[LUTE] Re: Mystery Solved: John Bull had contact with Indian Classical Music

2018-02-05 Thread G. C.
That is so crazy! Amazing nonetheless, a duet made in heaven, or hell. :) Om nama Shivaya G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-06 Thread G. C.
NB: Jacques Gaultier was not a relative of Ennemond or Denis. For pieces in Cherbury also listen to Jacob Lindberg's "Jacobean Lute Music" BIS-2055 (2013) G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-07 Thread G. C.
BTW. I never wrote that Jacques Gaultier was related to Enemond, so don't know were is this supposition from⦠That is from: On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 5:50 AM, Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: Speaking of Thurston Dart, I always return to his article, "Miss Mary

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-07 Thread G. C.
Right, so all we other lutenetters interested in this should just keep hanging. Tres bien. That's the way! Ce est le route? G. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: Jaroslaw I do agree with you and the study of past mentalities an

[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

2018-02-07 Thread G. C.
I agree with you Arto. The first example is quite amazing in its compatibility. Due to a common scale, the forced duet somehow sounds compatible. I would say a musical quirk and a coincidence. How could Indian music be compatible with Western renaissance. No chance! And the other exa

[LUTE] Re: German song questions

2018-02-08 Thread G. C.
Yes, Song number 304, page 388, which is actually page 466 if you download the pdf On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:39 AM, [1]b...@symbol4.de <[2]b...@symbol4.de> wrote: Here [3]https://books.google.de/books/about/Altdeutsches_Liederbuch. html?id=rgY JAQAAMAAJ&re

[LUTE] Re: German song questions

2018-02-08 Thread G. C.
Crabaten could perhaps be "kids" On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Robert Barto <[1]r.ba...@gmx.de> wrote: Thank you all. After Rainer's mail I was amazed to find Böhme's book on Google books where I could even download a pdf of all 900 pages. The

[LUTE] Re: Sweelinck's Echo Fantasia ex A is a *direct copy* of Raga Asawari

2018-02-08 Thread G. C.
Doctor's Orders: The patient is to calm down by listening to some real "east meets west" music, in the form of Ravi Shankar meets Yehudi Menuhin, to relax fom his overexited state of mind. A cup of bhang lassi before bedtime is also adviced. Best G. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 1

[LUTE] Re: Jacques Gautier, Ludovico Ariosti engravings (portraits)

2018-02-08 Thread G. C.
Jacques' hands remind me of Segovia. G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Sweelinck's Echo Fantasia ex A is a *direct copy* of Raga Asawari

2018-02-08 Thread G. C.
No need for u*n*s*u*b*s here. That's just being wimpy. Get it together man, this is just a teeny weeny lute list, there should be room for all of us, trolls and heroes alike :) Best G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-a

[LUTE] Re: the art of the Fusion

2018-02-08 Thread G. C.
avi + Yehudi was cool. Django and Stephane too were cool. Or that Indian guy, George Harrison, playing the sitar on a Beatles song. Even Gogol Bordello is a good mix. All physicists will tell you: fusion is very difficult to do well. Miles Davis flunked it. On 02/08/2018 11:33 AM, G. C.

[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

2018-02-08 Thread G. C.
ed > and listened a lot. I would very much love to get other keyboard pieces > in that style then, regardless :) > > However (also to you, G. C.) - it is not the compatible mode, it is also >

[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

2018-02-09 Thread G. C.
One of my Shakti favourites must be "Peace of mind" from the "Natural Elements" album. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3t15wctpN0 G. On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 5:05 AM, George <[2]georgefos...@att.net> wrote: My favorite east meets west: John McLaughlin and Shakti. Check out Ha

[LUTE] While speaking about Hans

2018-02-17 Thread G. C.
For the new(sidler)comers, let me remind you of this old thread When you read this: (It couldn't have been better said!) Hie volget der Juden Tantz/und wer in schlagen wil/der muss die Lautten anders ziehen. Nun volget der zug/zie Erstlich den Mitlern Brummer und die klein saitten/di

[LUTE] Re: While speaking about Hans

2018-02-17 Thread G. C.
On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Ralf Mattes <[1]r...@mh-freiburg.de> wrote: Which old thread? Subject? Message ID? Dear Ralf, just write "juden tantz" in the search field in the mail archive. :) G. -- References 1. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de To get on or off this l

[LUTE] Re: Francesco or da Crema

2018-02-21 Thread G. C.
-- Forwarded message -- From: G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> Date: Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Francesco or da Crema To: Alain Veylit <[2]al...@musickshandmade.com> When you read the foreword of old prints, there is often

[LUTE] Re: Francesco or da Crema

2018-02-21 Thread G. C.
Dear Ron, look at the recently mentioned "Ein Newgeordent..." by Newsidler. It says at the bottom of the introductory page: Mit Roemischen Kaiser und Koeniglichen Majestaet, freyheit/ in funff iaren nit nach zu drucken / begnadet. What is this but a royally decreed copyright? And

[LUTE] Re: Francesco or da Crema

2018-02-21 Thread G. C.
I know, that's what I'm saying, thanks Antonio! Newsidler's book of 1536 on page 2 is also a letter from the "king" giving him personally the privileges, with threats of fines to those who try to copy. Half to the king, and half to Neusiedler.The printer is mentioned at the end of th

[LUTE] Re: looking for 2 lute sources

2018-02-22 Thread G. C.
My opinion in this matter is, that the libraries should primarily be there for us, the public. They are generally funded with OUR tax money in the first place. Major libraries have understood this, and digitize their holdings big time. We live, after all, in 2018 and not in 1980! Its

[LUTE] Re: looking for 2 lute sources

2018-02-22 Thread G. C.
If you could somehow direct the Swedish government to send your taxes to the Polish JagielloÅska Biblioteka Cyfrowa, all would be well. And I'm sure they would appreciate the support. RA I'm sure JagielloÅska is recieving their fair share of EU funds! But they are the good g

[LUTE] Re: looking for 2 lute sources

2018-02-22 Thread G. C.
Sorry for the wrong pronounciation, I of course meant NIGGARDLY! On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:19 PM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: If you could somehow direct the Swedish government to send your taxes to the Polish JagielloÅska Biblioteka Cyfrowa, all would be well.

[LUTE] Re: Calling all lute nerds...

2018-03-03 Thread G. C.
Could the quote perhaps be found in "El arte de taner fantasia" by Tomas Santamaria? G. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 7:39 PM, Matthew Daillie <[1]dail...@club-internet.fr> wrote: Hi Martin, Several vihuelists seemed to say something along those lines but I suspect that the

[LUTE] Re: Calling all lute nerds...

2018-03-03 Thread G. C.
your query. B.R. G. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 10:24 PM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: Could the quote perhaps be found in "El arte de taner fantasia" by Tomas Santamaria? G. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 7:39 PM, Matthew Daillie <[

[LUTE] Re: Lute sighting !

2018-03-14 Thread G. C.
Sweet, but what is that cool looking guitar he's playing on? G. On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Wayne <[1]wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X2Y4VCa3qE&list= PLD098564FDA884E25 Sting sings James Taylor. (;-) To get on or off thi

[LUTE] Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

2018-07-05 Thread G. C.
Hi All, after attending a concert including a portuguise guitar, I was positively surprised to realise, that this rare metal strung instrument is also traditionally played using the thumb-in technique! And after aquiring a Yamaha G1 guitalele, I was equally surprised, that I could

[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

2018-07-06 Thread G. C.
nt the strings a thin and have quite some tension? What's Your technique? Am 05.07.2018 um 23:04 schrieb G. C.: Hi All, after attending a concert including a portuguise guitar, I was positively surprised to realise, that this rare metal strung instru

[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

2018-07-06 Thread G. C.
The portuguese guitar I listened to, was played virtuoso, both melodic and chordal. And yes, I bet the performer had some thick callouses. I was surprised to se that he used thumb in technique. G On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 8:51 PM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi T

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread G. C.
The guitarists spring to mind with their alfabetto and chord diagrams: Foscarini, Sanz, Pablo Minguet y Yrol etc. G. On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Leonard Williams <[1]arc...@verizon.net> wrote: As chordal music (as opposed to polyphonic) became more prevalent,

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread G. C.
Juan Carlos Amat's little book Guitarra Espanola y Vandola (?) was published already in 1596 but the earliest surviving edition is from 1627. [1]https://imslp.org/wiki/Guitarra_espa%C3%B1ola%2C_y_vandola_(Amat%2C_ Juan_Carlos) -- References 1. https://imslp.org/wiki/Guitarra

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread G. C.
Interestingly, the compendium is for spanish guitar of 5 courses, 2 pages about the 4 couse guitar and then the same again in catalan, but with improved diagrams. (The text says that the first version was made in 1586 already!) [1]https://www.lutesociety.org/uploads/baroque-guitar/am

[LUTE] Re: the oud so wild

2018-08-03 Thread G. C.
They are playing on guitars, 3 or 4 of them. And what is that subliminal track in the back, with birds and electronic sounds? G. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Sb-8kiAJA&t=1441s On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Alain Veylit <[2]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: It's al

[LUTE] Re: the oud so wild

2018-08-03 Thread G. C.
emed to suggest the whole thing was synthetized sound (not human). Lack of awareness of what a real Renaissance lute looks like might support that supposition. On 08/03/2018 12:17 PM, G. C. wrote: They are playing on guitars, 3 or 4 of them. And what is that subliminal tr

[LUTE] Re: the oud so wild

2018-08-04 Thread G. C.
01. What If I Never Speed? - 00:00:00 02. Weep You No More Sad Fountains - 00:02:07 03. Can She Excuse My Wrongs - 00:03:20 04. Come Heavy Sleep - 00:04:40 05. Pavan XI - 00:07:29 06. Fine Knacks For Ladies - 00:10:29 07. Go Crystal Tears - 00:11:21 08. If my complaints - 00

[LUTE] Re: the oud so wild

2018-08-04 Thread G. C.
Slightly Corrected. John Dowland (1563-1626) 01. What If I Never Speed? - 00:00:00 (Book 3) 02. Weep You No More Sad Fountains - 00:02:07 (Book 3) 03. Can She Excuse My Wrongs (Essex) - 00:03:20 (Book 1) 04. Come Heavy Sleep - 00:04:40 (Book 1) 05. Pavan XI - 00:07:29 06. Fi

[LUTE] Re: Composers you wish had a bigger legacy

2018-08-04 Thread G. C.
Bulman Van Wilder Kemp -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Pièce de Résistance

2018-08-10 Thread G. C.
Irrespective of the ragas=renaissance pieces, (which I think is bollocks, and I've been playing the sitar since the early 70s) it is extremely bad nettiquette to publish mails to the list that have clearly been sent as private correspondance! Another question is: "What is S*P*A*M*? I

[LUTE] Re: Pièce de Résistance

2018-08-10 Thread G. C.
"I am sure Tristan isn't a troll." No, of course, pls. don't misunderstand! I was kind of volunteering as a troll! G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: W. Cripps tab program

2018-08-11 Thread G. C.
Dear Alain, it's just Magnifique! Thanks! G. On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Alain Veylit <[1]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: This may be of interest to the aficionados of Wayne's tab program. Wayne's tab program produces very legible and elegant output and it

[LUTE] Re: W. Cripps tab program

2018-08-11 Thread G. C.
Try this one :) [1]http://gile.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tablature.cgi?mus_266_fre nch/sienna_129.tab On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 8:50 PM, G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Alain, it's just Magnifique! Thanks! G. On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 8:37 PM, A

[LUTE] Samuel Pepys

2018-08-12 Thread G. C.
I just found out, that SP was the Harvey Weinstein of the 1660s! They obviously had no #metoo campaigns in those days. And completely different men-women relationships. It's quite strange to read his coded sexual passages in a spanish/french/latin mishmash. And the complete diary inc

[LUTE] Bach for viola and theorbo

2018-09-08 Thread G. C.
For some refreshing Bach, (@ BBC early music late) go to: [1]https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m8x2 The introduction starts at 1:16:55 G. -- References 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m8x2 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.e

[LUTE] Re: Bach for viola and theorbo

2018-09-08 Thread G. C.
BWV 995 / 1011 On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 12:24 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: For some refreshing Bach, (@ BBC early music late) go to: [1][2]https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m8x2 The introduction starts at 1:16:55 G. -- Refe

[LUTE] Re: Bach for viola and theorbo

2018-09-08 Thread G. C.
Also well worth a listen, where the well balanced soundscape actually makes the plucker(s) audible: [1]https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m7lz -- References 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m7lz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.

[LUTE] Re: Bach for viola and theorbo

2018-09-08 Thread G. C.
Who recognizes the theme starting on 36:21 :))) On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 1:05 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: Also well worth a listen, where the well balanced soundscape actually makes the plucker(s) audible: [2]https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m7lz -- Refe

[LUTE] Re: Bach for viola and theorbo

2018-09-09 Thread G. C.
Exactement! And well played IMO. :) On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 8:29 AM Lex van Sante <[1]lvansa...@gmail.com> wrote: Ma belle si ton âme/ Une jeune fillette/La Monica Lex van Sante Op 8 sep. 2018, om 22:41 heeft G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> het volgend

[LUTE] Rosseter 450 yrs

2018-10-27 Thread G. C.
BBC's Early Music Show continues carrying the torch: Rosseter, Campion, Dowland, Johnson, Morley, Baxter, Barnaby [1]https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/mtsz G. -- References 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/mtsz To get on or off this list see list information at ht

[LUTE] Re: Rosseter 450 yrs

2018-10-27 Thread G. C.
Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 10:28 AM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: BBC's Early Music Show continues carrying the torch: Rosseter, Campion, Dowland, Johnson, Morley, Baxter, Barnaby [1][2]https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/mtsz G. --

[LUTE] Re: Rosseter 450 yrs

2018-10-27 Thread G. C.
can add to my list? G. On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 2:12 PM Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote: On 27.10.2018 12:18, G. C. wrote: > ... I'd very > much like to know the arguments for ascribing the said chromatic > f

[LUTE] Re: Rosseter 450 yrs

2018-10-27 Thread G. C.
.de> wrote: On 27.10.2018 14:20, G. C. wrote: > Right Rainer! Could generosi also mean "generous"? A generous > rosicrucian? (Of an outstanding Dowland Fantasia?) > I have two related questions: > In New Grove's e

[LUTE] Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Dear All, I'm looking for the two books in Neapolitan tab from 1536 Intavolatura de viola o vero lauto cio e Recercate, Canzone Francese, Motette, composto per lo Eccelente & Unico musico Francesco Milanese, non mai piu stampata Libro primo (secondo) della Fortuna, Naples 1536 The

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
I see now, that book 2 on Gerbode's site is effectively in neapolitan tab. What about book 1? G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Found book 1 and It corresponds to Gerbode's facsimile. So, is volume 2 of Sulzbach the only print we have of neapolitan tab? G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Matthew Le 11 déc. 2018 à 11:05, "G. C." <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Found book 1 and It corresponds to Gerbode's facsimile. > >So, is volume 2 of Sulzbach the only print we have of neapolitan tab?

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Hi Christopher, you wrote: modern guitar tab basically derives from the system devised for Hawaiian slide guitar music around 1915. So they just reinvented it almost 400 years later? Yes, that sounds reasonable. G. -- To get on or off this list see list inf

[LUTE] Neapolitan tablature (Was: Da Milano)

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Back to the Sultzbach prints. I can't help to notice, that vol. 1 (italian tab) has only the playing instructions in italian, also printed in vol 2, while vol. 2 (neapolitan tab) has two additional dedications in latin. Both volumes have a latin end page, quoting the spanish king C

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Personally I first learned modern guitar tablature, switched to French tab on the lute, then learned Italian tablature, and finally wrote a piece of software to convert Neapolitan tab to Spanish, Italian and/or French. And how great that you did Alain! I'm sure, we

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Thanks Ron, for reminding me of Coelho's site. There is SO much erudite and relevant material there! G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Herbert of Cherbury

2019-05-11 Thread G. C.
By all means, don't miss tomorrow's BBC Radio 3 show on Herbert of Cherbury [1]https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00051cb -- References Visible links: 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00051cb Hidden links: 3. file://localhost/net/ifs-users/lute-arc/L27070-144TMP.html

[LUTE] Re: Herbert of Cherbury

2019-05-13 Thread G. C.
[2]985-205-9632 (985-20-LYNDA) Skype: lyndakraar On May 11, 2019, at 2:14 PM, G. C. <[3]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: By all means, don't miss tomorrow's BBC Radio 3 show on Herbert of Cherbury [1][4]https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00051cb -- References

[LUTE] Re: Herbert of Cherbury

2019-05-13 Thread G. C.
Oh, and I forgot Alain Veylit's fine edition [1]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/cherbury G. On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 3:26 PM G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: You're most welcome Lynda. His diary is downloadable in Google Books, a 14 page Jstor

[LUTE] Bakfark

2019-06-05 Thread G. C.
Valentin Bakfark's world w/ Jacob Heringman on BBC radio 3 this coming Sunday! [1]https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0005sl4 G. -- References 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0005sl4 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-a

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread G. C.
+++ Ponce (Mexico) got yelled at for faking early music compositions People usually hate to be duped (as shown many years ago among our own ranks). How those works could be attributed to Weiss can only be ascribed to a lack of knowledge about Weiss' style at the time. I can't unde

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread G. C.
red de Visée's music and happily signed his own name on a Stradivarius guitar. Edward > On 19 Jun 2019, at 4:32 PM, G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >+++ Ponce (Mexico) got yelled at for faking earlymusic compositions >

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-23 Thread G. C.
So not only do lutenists spend 60 years tuning, they also spend 40 + years not getting the sound right! Oh my what a harsh mistress!!! G. On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 1:36 PM Leonard Williams <[1]arc...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Doctors and lawyers practice because they know wha

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-27 Thread G. C.
Because people are superlazy, and don't crop their mails, but just add their message and happy posting! Aaaarggghh G. On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 12:36 AM Ed Durbrow <[1]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote: Why are these messages so long? I have to scroll forever just to get

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-28 Thread G. C.
Ha-ha-ha LOL That was indeed funny Dan! But seriously, sending mails to the list, that just accumulate obsolete text is just as irritating as sending multiple mails or html format, and IMO just plain laziness. It uses up space, makes it, as Leonard says, hard to see the message, a

[LUTE] Bandora tuning

2019-06-29 Thread G. C.
Kindly correct the following if wrong: "The bandora is / was tuned a-e-c-G-D-C, resulting in easy conversion to guitar tuning (e-h-g-d-A-G-(EE) and playing of tablature written for bandora on the guitar." G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.da

[LUTE] Re: Wishful thinking on lute temparaments was Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-22 Thread G. C.
Dear Rainer, when listening to Tarletone, which came in 4 versions, I have to say, that to my ears, they all sounded virtually the same, at least the 3 MT versions. For some reason, my ears prefered the equal temperament one, although I can't exactly say why. It felt more "crisp"

[LUTE] Re: Wishful thinking on lute temparaments was Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-22 Thread G. C.
ird to the point of dissonance in the quarter-comma version, and very different from the others. Indeed, if I heard it another context I'd assume it was just out of tune. > On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:10 PM, G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

[LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament)

2019-07-27 Thread G. C.
âWer nicht liebt Wein, Weib, Gesang, der bleibt ein Narr sein Leben lang" M. Luther (the old antisemite!) -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: octave strings

2019-07-31 Thread G. C.
I've seen photos of this practice on modern lutes, and asked the list about it a year or two ago, but got no response. It must have some justification, as the practise is used even today. There must surely be someone here able to give a report, (or is it a "player's secret of some so

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

2019-08-01 Thread G. C.
Many guitarists have adopted some kind of thumb in playing style. Mark Knopfler and Jeff Beck come to mind. G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

2019-08-01 Thread G. C.
I thought thumb in on baroque lute was considered anathema? G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

2019-08-01 Thread G. C.
People on this list f. ex.? G. tor. 1. aug. 2019 kl. 18.20 skrev howard posner <[1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>: > On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:17 AM, G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >I thought thumb in on baroque lute was considered anathema?

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

2019-08-01 Thread G. C.
I don't play the baroque lute myself, and don't have any interest in maintaining or propagating any "written in stone" statements about playing styles, string materials, hip or not hip, nails, temperaments or whatever. On the contrary, I'm for a "free for all" in this respect. On the

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

2019-08-01 Thread G. C.
yed the same way, chalk it up to sloppy writing (or thinking), delete it, and forget about it. > On Aug 1, 2019, at 9:23 AM, G. C. <[6]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > People on this list f. ex.? To get on or off this list see list information

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