[Bug 666] lyx2lyx cannot load this file successfully (elasticity.lyx)

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[Bug 666] lyx2lyx cannot load this file successfully (elasticity.lyx)

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[Bug 666] lyx2lyx cannot load this file successfully (elasticity.lyx)

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[Bug 666] lyx2lyx cannot load this file successfully (elasticity.lyx)

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Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-08-03 Thread Andre Poenitz
admitting that LyX can't do it all and providing some way of getting under the hood. I always felt that the whole EvilRedText thing was just an apeasement of the M$ Word crowd, anyhow. Still, Raw or PassThru seems fine by me. Go for 'Raw'. This way we would spare us a flame war on the

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-08-03 Thread Herbert Voss
Andre Poenitz wrote: Let's just keep it as it is now: ERT Encapsulated Raw Text Okokok... I thought you are the math guru, why don't you write $ok^3\ldot$ i see, the problem is the first uppercase letter ... Herbert :-) -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-08-03 Thread Herbert Voss
Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: Let's just keep it as it is now: ERT Encapsulated Raw Text Okokok... I thought you are the math guru, why don't you write $ok^3\ldot$ I'm not

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-08-03 Thread Andre Poenitz
> admitting that LyX can't do it all and providing some way of getting > under the hood. I always felt that the whole "EvilRedText" thing was > just an apeasement of the M$ Word crowd, anyhow. > > Still, "Raw" or "PassThru" seems fine by me. Go for 'Raw'. This way we would spare us a flame

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-08-03 Thread Herbert Voss
Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > Let's just keep it as it is now: "ERT" Encapsulated Raw Text > > Okokok... I thought you are the math guru, why don't you write $ok^3\ldot$ i see, the problem is the first uppercase letter ... Herbert :-) -- http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-08-03 Thread Herbert Voss
Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > > Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > > > > > Let's just keep it as it is now: "ERT" Encapsulated Raw Text > > > > > > Okokok... > > > > I thought you are the math guru, why don't you write > > > >

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 29-Jul-2001 Garst R. Reese wrote: TeX is better, because it's no more like the eval red text. It goes away anyway. I like the 666, maybe the same people trying to ban Harry Potter will give lyx some publicity also :) Oh you have the same problems there, people seeing Harry Potter

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Amir Karger
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 03:41:35PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: The TeX inset on the other hand, is clear and intuitive. In a DocBook document TeX won't make much sense. Whoa. Never thought of that. In my mind, the LyX backend is always LaTeX. On

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 03:27:06PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Amir Karger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | To me, though, markup seems like it's even more marked up than LyX, not more | raw. I'd go with raw. I still think '666' gives the right assosiations. Only to those people who

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
| Only to those people who know all the various in-jokes and references. eh? '666'? what do _you_ think/assosiate when you see 666? Actually, knowledge about the deeper meaning of '666' seems not to be too widespread among all the supporters of a few 'other' religions and the atheist

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
| I had to explain '666' more than once and I do think 'Raw' is a much better | name of that beast. pun intended? Sure... puns are not frowned upon hereabout... Why not just rename the inset label to The Beast For exactly the same raeson. _I_ would not know what 'The Beast

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 04:31:28PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | I had to explain '666' more than once and I do think 'Raw' is a much better | name of that beast. pun intended? Why not just rename the inset label to The Beast the wickedest inset in the world john -- I'd rather

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Garst R. Reese
Mike Ressler wrote: On 30 Jul 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Or just change the ERT acronym to be something else. Eloquent Lars Red Text, Encumbering Red Text, Extension Red Text... Encapsulated Raw Text? :-) A

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Herbert Voss
Garst R. Reese wrote: Mike Ressler wrote: On 30 Jul 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Or just change the ERT acronym to be something else. Eloquent Lars Red Text, Encumbering Red Text, Extension Red Text...

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Ronny Buchmann
* Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001-07-30 16:26] schrieb: | Only to those people who know all the various in-jokes and references. eh? '666'? what do _you_ think/assosiate when you see 666? i only think hä, was is los? or for non germans what? what's going on here? (hoping htat

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
Amazingly it seems like we have reached a kind of consensus that ERT is better than 666, and this within two days! What the fuck? I had expected this thread to continue for weeks!?! Normally trivial details take forever to settle because everybody has an opinion. Hmm. I have to practice that mind

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 11:36:49PM +0200, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: Amazingly it seems like we have reached a kind of consensus that ERT is better than 666, and this within two days! What the fuck? I had expected this thread to continue for weeks!?! Normally trivial details take forever

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 29-Jul-2001 Garst R. Reese wrote: >> TeX is better, because it's no more like the eval red text. > It goes away anyway. I like the 666, maybe the same people trying to ban > Harry Potter will give lyx some publicity also :) Oh you have the same problems there, people seeing &

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Amir Karger
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 03:41:35PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: > > > The "TeX inset" on the other hand, is clear and intuitive. > > In a DocBook document "TeX" won't make much sense. Whoa. Never thought of that. In my mind, the LyX backend is always

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 03:27:06PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | To me, though, markup seems like it's even more marked up than LyX, not more > | raw. I'd go with raw. > > I still think '666' gives the right assosiation

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
> | Only to those people who know all the various in-jokes and references. > > eh? '666'? > > what do _you_ think/assosiate when you see "666"? Actually, knowledge about the deeper meaning of '666' seems not to be too widespread among all the supporters o

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
> | I had to explain '666' more than once and I do think 'Raw' is a much better > | name of that beast. > > pun intended? Sure... puns are not frowned upon hereabout... > Why not just rename the inset label to "The Beast" For exactly the same raeson. _I_ would

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 04:31:28PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | I had to explain '666' more than once and I do think 'Raw' is a much better > | name of that beast. > > pun intended? > > Why not just rename the inset label to "The Beast" "the wi

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Garst R. Reese
Mike Ressler wrote: > > On 30 Jul 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Lars> Or just change the "ERT" acronym to be something else. Eloquent > > Lars> Red Text, Encumbering Red Text, Extension Red Text... > > > >

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Herbert Voss
"Garst R. Reese" wrote: > > Mike Ressler wrote: > > > > On 30 Jul 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > > > > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > Lars> Or just change the "ERT" acronym to be something else. Eloquent > > > Lars> Red Text, Encumbering Red

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Ronny Buchmann
* Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-07-30 16:26] schrieb: > > | Only to those people who know all the various in-jokes and references. > > > > eh? '666'? > > > > what do _you_ think/assosiate when you see "666"? > i only think "h

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
Amazingly it seems like we have reached a kind of consensus that ERT is better than 666, and this within two days! What the fuck? I had expected this thread to continue for weeks!?! Normally trivial details take forever to settle because everybody has an opinion. Hmm. I have to practice that mind

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-30 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 11:36:49PM +0200, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > Amazingly it seems like we have reached a kind of consensus that ERT is > better than 666, and this within two days! What the fuck? I had expected this > thread to continue for weeks!?! Normally trivial det

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 02:32:00PM +0200, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: Hi, The 666 name is fun, but not very intuitive/informative. What about changing it to TEX? Failing that, we should at least use ERT, which is not very intuitive either, but at least more established? Greets

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Herbert Voss
Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: The 666 name is fun, but not very intuitive/informative. What about changing it to TEX? Failing that, we should at least use ERT, which is not very intuitive either, but at least more established? TeX is better, because it's no more like the eval red text

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Garst R. Reese
Herbert Voss wrote: Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: The 666 name is fun, but not very intuitive/informative. What about changing it to TEX? Failing that, we should at least use ERT, which is not very intuitive either, but at least more established? TeX is better, because it's

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Amir Karger
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 10:23:53AM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: Herbert Voss wrote: Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: The 666 name is fun, but not very intuitive/informative. What about changing it to TEX? Failing that, we should at least use ERT, which is not very intuitive

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 08:14:41PM -0400, Amir Karger wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 10:23:53AM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: Herbert Voss wrote: Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: The 666 name is fun, but not very intuitive/informative. What about changing it to TEX? Failing

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Allan Rae
On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 08:14:41PM -0400, Amir Karger wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 10:23:53AM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: Herbert Voss wrote: Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: The 666 name is fun, but not very intuitive

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 02:32:00PM +0200, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > Hi, > > The 666 name is fun, but not very intuitive/informative. What about > changing it to TEX? Failing that, we should at least use ERT, which > is not very intuitive either, but at least m

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Herbert Voss
"Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" wrote: > > The 666 name is fun, but not very intuitive/informative. What about > changing it to TEX? Failing that, we should at least use ERT, which > is not very intuitive either, but at least more established? TeX is better, because it's no

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Garst R. Reese
Herbert Voss wrote: > > "Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" wrote: > > > > The 666 name is fun, but not very intuitive/informative. What about > > changing it to TEX? Failing that, we should at least use ERT, which > > is not very intuitive either, but at le

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Amir Karger
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 10:23:53AM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: > Herbert Voss wrote: > > > > "Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" wrote: > > > > > > The 666 name is fun, but not very intuitive/informative. What about > > > changing it to

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 08:14:41PM -0400, Amir Karger wrote: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 10:23:53AM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: > > Herbert Voss wrote: > > > > > > "Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" wrote: > > > > > > > > The 66

Re: Rename 666 to TEX

2001-07-29 Thread Allan Rae
On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 08:14:41PM -0400, Amir Karger wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 10:23:53AM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: > > > Herbert Voss wrote: > > > > > > > > "Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen&

Re: 666 inset vs. Latex Layout

2001-07-25 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 24-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | 4) Lars does not like adding the Latex layout back in because there |would be two different ways of adding Latex. I'm still of the opinion that this is a artifical excuse. | * Add the Latex layout back in via the PassThru flag in a small file |

Re: 666 inset vs. Latex Layout

2001-07-25 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 09:44:47AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 24-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | 4) Lars does not like adding the Latex layout back in because there |would be two different ways of adding Latex. I'm still of the opinion that this is a artifical excuse. Me

Re: 666 inset vs. Latex Layout

2001-07-25 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 24-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >| 4) Lars does not like adding the Latex layout back in because there >|would be two different ways of adding Latex. I'm still of the opinion that this is a "artifical" excuse. >| * Add the Latex layout back in via the PassThru flag in a small

Re: 666 inset vs. Latex Layout

2001-07-25 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 09:44:47AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 24-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > >| 4) Lars does not like adding the Latex layout back in because there > >|would be two different ways of adding Latex. > > I'm still of the opinion that this is a "artifical"

Re: 666 insets looking much better

2001-07-24 Thread Juergen Vigna
Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've just compiled the current CVS and like the 666 inset behavior much better - collapsing them looks good. However, could the maximum size of the box be made settable somewhere? From my previous example, \micron shows up very nicely, as does \farcs

666 inset vs. Latex Layout

2001-07-24 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 05:08:26PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 23-Jul-2001 Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: Try this with lyx/.../examples/noweb2lyx.lyx and see. I did and fixed. Please have a look again! Jürgen I will do it as soon as it shows up in anon CVS. However, I do have

Re: 666 inset vs. Latex Layout

2001-07-24 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 05:58:49PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | * Add the Latex layout back in via the PassThru flag in a small file | (lib/layouts/latex-layout.inc). | | * Remove the ERT inset and all the backwards compatibility loading and | writing stuff. | | This further

Re: 666 insets looking much better

2001-07-24 Thread Mike Ressler
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: Well we could, but I really don't know if this is needed. I made this more for longer paragraphs with LaTeX code as for shorter one I'll make the inlined version so that it doesn't collapse, but it will show it's contents ^^^ Ah, yes ...

Re: 666 insets looking much better

2001-07-24 Thread Juergen Vigna
> Mike Ressler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I've just compiled the current CVS and like the "666 inset" behavior much > better - collapsing them looks good. However, could the maximum size of > the box be made settable somewhere? From my previous example, &

666 inset vs. Latex Layout

2001-07-24 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 05:08:26PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 23-Jul-2001 Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: > > > Try this with "lyx/.../examples/noweb2lyx.lyx" and see. > > I did and fixed. Please have a look again! > >Jürgen I will do it as soon as it shows up in anon CVS. However,

Re: 666 inset vs. Latex Layout

2001-07-24 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 05:58:49PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | * Add the Latex layout back in via the PassThru flag in a small file > | (lib/layouts/latex-layout.inc). > | > | * Remove the ERT inset and all the backwards compatibility loading and > | writing stuff. > | > | This

Re: 666 insets looking much better

2001-07-24 Thread Mike Ressler
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: > Well we could, but I really don't know if this is needed. I made this more > for longer paragraphs with LaTeX code as for shorter one I'll make the > inlined version so that it doesn't collapse, but it will show it's contents ^^^ Ah, yes

666 insets looking much better

2001-07-23 Thread Mike Ressler
I've just compiled the current CVS and like the 666 inset behavior much better - collapsing them looks good. However, could the maximum size of the box be made settable somewhere? From my previous example, \micron shows up very nicely, as does \farcs; both these have a box size which matches

666 insets looking much better

2001-07-23 Thread Mike Ressler
I've just compiled the current CVS and like the "666 inset" behavior much better - collapsing them looks good. However, could the maximum size of the box be made settable somewhere? From my previous example, "\micron" shows up very nicely, as does "\farcs"; bo

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-20 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: Well this is well known and as developer you should have looked at the buglist on SourceForge.net ;) I still think that this was a sly way to get help, but anyway I've played further. #:O) Well you won't believe it but I know since a long time the

Small 666 insets all over the place

2001-07-20 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
could scan-read my documents without trouble: In the following code, [[io_str_iterator]] is going to walk down Now, I see this: In the following code, [666] - | [[io_str_iterator

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-20 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: >> Well this is well known and as developer you should have looked at the > buglist >> on SourceForge.net ;) > > I still think that this was a sly way to get help, but anyway I've played > further. #:O) Well you won't believe it but I know since a long

Small 666 insets all over the place

2001-07-20 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
could scan-read my documents without trouble: In the following code, [[io_str_iterator]] is going to walk down Now, I see this: In the following code, [666] - | [[io_str_iterator

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 18-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: This is not a stunning example of WYSIWYM. Please, please, (Lars?) change the appearance back to the old behavior!!! I don't think this will happen. What will happen is that we will change the InsetERT to be inlined. What will NOT happen is that a inlined

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Mike Ressler
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 18-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: This is not a stunning example of WYSIWYM. Please, please, (Lars?) change the appearance back to the old behavior!!! I don't think this will happen. What will happen is that we will change the InsetERT to be

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Mike Ressler
:-) Sorry if I sounded overly loud - I was just shocked by the appearance of those 666 boxes, and hadn't really followed the previous discussion closely enough to realize what was going on. Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:21:51AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 18-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: This is not a stunning example of WYSIWYM. Please, please, (Lars?) change the appearance back to the old behavior!!! I don't think this will happen. What will happen is that we will

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: can't you un-inline the ert inset automagically when it extends beyond the right margin of the workarea ? Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get complaints about this automatic behaviour someone surely doesn't like!

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 05:08:12PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: can't you un-inline the ert inset automagically when it extends beyond the right margin of the workarea ? Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 16:08, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: can't you un-inline the ert inset automagically when it extends beyond the right margin of the workarea ? Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get complaints about

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get complaints about this automatic behaviour someone surely doesn't like! Well it seems like a good suggestion to me because it only affects the users The only change to the above I

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 16:14, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: Think about the alternative - I add a lot of ert into the inset, so it is drawn off the side, and I can't even read it ! Surely we dont really have/want a choice in this circumstance. Well we

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: Road test to infinite redraws: 1. Insert table, I row, 2 columns 2. Type in first (leftmost) column until the table gets bigger than the width Well this is well known and as developer you should have looked at the buglist on SourceForge.net ;)

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 05:50:43PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: Road test to infinite redraws: 1. Insert table, I row, 2 columns 2. Type in first (leftmost) column until the table gets bigger than the width Well this is well known and as developer

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 16:50, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: Road test to infinite redraws: 1. Insert table, I row, 2 columns 2. Type in first (leftmost) column until the table gets bigger than the width Well this is well known and as developer you should

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 18-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: > This is not a stunning example of WYSIWYM. Please, please, (Lars?) change > the appearance back to the old behavior!!! I don't think this will happen. What will happen is that we will change the InsetERT to be inlined. What will NOT happen is that a inlined

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Mike Ressler
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 18-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: > > This is not a stunning example of WYSIWYM. Please, please, (Lars?) change > > the appearance back to the old behavior!!! > > I don't think this will happen. What will happen is that we will change > the InsetERT to

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Mike Ressler
:) Excellent! Why didn't you just say so :-) Sorry if I sounded overly loud - I was just shocked by the appearance of those 666 boxes, and hadn't really followed the previous discussion closely enough to realize what was going on. Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:21:51AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 18-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: > > > This is not a stunning example of WYSIWYM. Please, please, (Lars?) change > > the appearance back to the old behavior!!! > > I don't think this will happen. What will happen is that we

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: > can't you un-inline the ert inset automagically when it extends beyond the right >margin > of the workarea ? Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get complaints about this automatic behaviour someone surely doesn't like!

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 05:08:12PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: > > > can't you un-inline the ert inset automagically when it extends beyond the right >margin > > of the workarea ? > > Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 16:08, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: > > > can't you un-inline the ert inset automagically when it extends beyond the right margin > > of the workarea ? > > Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get > complaints

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: >> Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get >> complaints about this automatic behaviour someone surely doesn't like! > > Well it seems like a good suggestion to me because it only affects the users The only change to the

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 16:14, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: > > > Think about the alternative - I add a lot of ert into the inset, so it is drawn off > > the side, and I can't even read it ! > > > > Surely we dont really have/want a choice in this circumstance. > >

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: > Road test to infinite redraws: > 1. Insert table, I row, 2 columns > 2. Type in first (leftmost) column until the table gets bigger than the width Well this is well known and as developer you should have looked at the buglist on SourceForge.net ;)

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 05:50:43PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: > > > Road test to infinite redraws: > > 1. Insert table, I row, 2 columns > > 2. Type in first (leftmost) column until the table gets bigger than the width > > Well this is well known and

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 16:50, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: > > > Road test to infinite redraws: > > 1. Insert table, I row, 2 columns > > 2. Type in first (leftmost) column until the table gets bigger than the width > > Well this is well known and as developer

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Ressler
playing with it - even though I should go to bed since I just finished observing all night and need to get up in 6 hours to start all over again. The natbib stuff is working great. Great job, Angus! That said, I want to gripe about the 666 insets, since this is the first I've seen them. I don't care

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 11:49:45AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: That said, I want to gripe about the 666 insets, since this is the first yes, everyone has this gripe. Lars and Juergen are doing things to get it nice again, but with out re-introducing latex font mode (something that needs

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread Garst R. Reese
John Levon wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 11:49:45AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: That said, I want to gripe about the 666 insets, since this is the first yes, everyone has this gripe. Lars and Juergen are doing things to get it nice again, but with out re-introducing latex font mode

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 05:05:42PM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: And John, clicking on MathPanel Greek killed LyX for me also, so it is probably not your xforms. hmm. I've tried it against an xforms with /definitely/ the right glibc and still get the problem too. I'll have to see what's going

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Ressler
, already playing with it - even though I should go to bed since I just finished observing all night and need to get up in 6 hours to start all over again. The natbib stuff is working great. Great job, Angus! That said, I want to gripe about the 666 insets, since this is the first I've seen them

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 11:49:45AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > That said, I want to gripe about the 666 insets, since this is the first yes, everyone has this gripe. Lars and Juergen are doing things to get it nice again, but with out re-introducing latex font mode (something that ne

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread Garst R. Reese
John Levon wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 11:49:45AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > > > That said, I want to gripe about the 666 insets, since this is the first > > yes, everyone has this gripe. Lars and Juergen are doing things to get it nice > again, but with out r

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 05:05:42PM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: > And John, clicking on MathPanel Greek killed LyX for me also, so it is > probably not your xforms. hmm. I've tried it against an xforms with /definitely/ the right glibc and still get the problem too. I'll have to see what's

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread R. Lahaye
\AA. But that results in Thisis 2 [666]| || | \AA| || in size. Can't believe that's the way WYSIWYM

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread Andre Poenitz
Have I missed the trick about how to make this example a one-liner in LyX. You seemingly missed a bit of the ongoing Lars bashing... Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread R. Lahaye
Andre Poenitz wrote: Have I missed the trick about how to make this example a one-liner in LyX. You seemingly missed a bit of the ongoing Lars bashing... Should I learn from this reply that in LyX WYSIWYM This is 2 A apart. will not anymore fit on one line (A as the Angstrom

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
A is the Angstrom (the tiny distance) symbol? Of course you could just use 'Å'... alternatively accent-circle A | I now use in texmode \AA. But that results in | | Thisis 2 | | [666

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
R. Lahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | R. Lahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | | Where A is the Angstrom (the tiny distance) symbol? | | Of course you could just use 'Å'... alternatively accent-circle A | | Great! Didn't know that! | | How do I squeeze

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread R. Lahaye
Lars Gullik Bjnnes wrote: \oe not in latin1 \o is '' '' \l not in latin1 \SS is '' Black Magic! We do not have good support for the unaccented special chars. A window like the math-panel could help out here. Support is a must, I bet, if LyX 1.2.0 persues the [666] insets style. Rob.

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