Re: Excel graphs into Lyx

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Les Denham wrote:

On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 01:55 -0700, timtheenchanter wrote:

Sorry if this question has been answered before but what is the best
way to
import excel graphs (Charts) into Lyx. If I convert them to a .jpg for
example the quality of the finished document is poor.


The new capabilities in 1.6 will be very nice, but meanwhile ...

1. Install PDFCreator (it's a GPL opensource package).

2. Print your Excel spreadsheet to PDF using PDFCreator as the printer.

3. Include the PDF page in your LyX document.

I haven't done this with Excel, but I have done it with other programs,
and it works very nicely, especially if you take the trouble to format
your output to fill a single page nicely.


Right, I also often use this very method because it gives pdf graphics 
instead of emf. That being said, an automatic emf to pdf conversion is 
possible too.


Abdel.

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller for LyX 1.5.6

[James Mansion]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Note: The update installer only works when LyX 1.5.5 was installed 
also with the LyXWinInstaller!

Does it have to be 1.5.5, or will a prior 1.5.x also be OK?

Re: Excel graphs into Lyx

[Les Denham]

On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 01:55 -0700, timtheenchanter wrote:
> Sorry if this question has been answered before but what is the best
> way to
> import excel graphs (Charts) into Lyx. If I convert them to a .jpg for
> example the quality of the finished document is poor. 

The new capabilities in 1.6 will be very nice, but meanwhile ...

1. Install PDFCreator (it's a GPL opensource package).

2. Print your Excel spreadsheet to PDF using PDFCreator as the printer.

3. Include the PDF page in your LyX document.

I haven't done this with Excel, but I have done it with other programs,
and it works very nicely, especially if you take the trouble to format
your output to fill a single page nicely.

Les

Assymetrical LyX layout template

[Fred Sias]

A little help please, I have been searching for this information in vain.
I know someone on this list must know where to find a method for setting up
an asymmetrical page layout in LyX with a 4 inch column and a 1.5 inch
left-hand column for sidenotes and illustration captions. I want my headings
to extend into the narrow column. It is easy to do in Framemaker but I can't
find any info on how to do it in LyX.
I will appreciate any help,
Fred

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Books for the crafts and jewelry trade featuring "Lost-Wax Casting: Old,
New, and Inexpensive Methods."
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Re: making a binary tarball from SVN

[Enrico Forestieri]

G. Milde writes:

> Is there an easy way to make a *binary* tarball out of the SVN sources?

Use "make DESTDIR=/tmp/lyx-inst install" and then make an archive of
everything in /tmp/lyx-inst.

-- 
Enrico

Re: LyX website displays incorrectly w/ Safari

[Bob Lounsbury]

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Christian Ridderström
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Jens Noeckel wrote:
>
>>> > The correct URI should be
>>> > http://www.lyx.org/farm/pub/skins/lyx/lyx.css
>
>> I don't know how your server is set up, but relative addresses should
>> always be fine, and even your intended approach should be doable:
>> Everything should work fine if you leave out the domain, provided you
>> _also_ leave out the "http:/" (this would have been incorrect syntax in any
>> case because of the missing second backslash). Then either make the path
>> relative to the current page, or start with "/farm/..." to specify an
>> absolute address from the server root.
>
> Hi,
>
> I've added a hack to the code, prepending the base domain. Please confirm
> that it now looks ok in Safari (The HTML seems fine to me).
>
> Just out of curiosity, and in case I want to replace the hack with something
> that works better, is this how the relative URI should appear:
>
>/farm/pub/skins/lyx/lyx.css
>
> Best regards,
> /Christian
>
> --
> Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Confirmed here. Thanks.

/Bob

Re: LyX website displays incorrectly w/ Safari

[Christian Ridderström]

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Jens Noeckel wrote:


> The correct URI should be
> http://www.lyx.org/farm/pub/skins/lyx/lyx.css


I don't know how your server is set up, but relative addresses should always 
be fine, and even your intended approach should be doable:
Everything should work fine if you leave out the domain, provided you _also_ 
leave out the "http:/" (this would have been incorrect syntax in any case 
because of the missing second backslash). Then either make the path relative 
to the current page, or start with "/farm/..." to specify an absolute address 
from the server root.


Hi,

I've added a hack to the code, prepending the base domain. Please confirm 
that it now looks ok in Safari (The HTML seems fine to me).


Just out of curiosity, and in case I want to replace the hack with 
something that works better, is this how the relative URI should appear:


/farm/pub/skins/lyx/lyx.css

Best regards,
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Math in a footnote

[rgheck]

Marwan Boustany wrote:

No.  If the math is left in the footnote. Nothing compiles, pdf, dvi or
anything else will not work.  When I remove it. It works perfectly.

  

OK. Try the attached. What happens? Please run LyX from a terminal, thus:
lyx -dbg latex
and post whatever LyX produces when you try to View>DVI.

Then delete the footnote, and do it again. Let's see what differences
there are.

rh




math.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Math in a footnote

[rgheck]

Marwan Boustany wrote:

No.  If the math is left in the footnote. Nothing compiles, pdf, dvi or
anything else will not work.  When I remove it. It works perfectly.

  

OK. Try the attached. What happens? Please run LyX from a terminal, thus:
lyx -dbg latex
and post whatever LyX produces when you try to View>DVI.

Then delete the footnote, and do it again. Let's see what differences 
there are.


rh

RE: Math in a footnote

[Marwan Boustany]

-Original Message-
From: rgheck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 July 2008 18:11
To: Marwan Boustany
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Math in a footnote

Marwan Boustany wrote:
> I tried what you said, it just says the format is unavailable. I have a
> complete miktex installation here with the install packages on the fly
> enabled...
>
>   
Can you compile anything?

Rh


No.  If the math is left in the footnote. Nothing compiles, pdf, dvi or
anything else will not work.  When I remove it. It works perfectly.

Marwan

Re: Difficulty with LyX-Code and Copystyle

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 28 July 2008 11:35, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Monday 28 July 2008 03:22, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> >> Steve Litt wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I'm not calling this a bug because maybe it was never intended to work
> >>> this way, but if I create and use two LyX styles, Code1 and Code2, each
> >>> of them with CopyStyle LyX-Code, then on conversion to PDF I get the
> >>> following error message:
> >>
> >> Hi Steve,
> >>
> >> Not directly related to this bug but, FYI, you might want to try the
> >> listings inset instead of lyxcode; you would get syntax highlightting
> >> for free thanks to the listings LateX package if that's what you are
> >> intented to do with your tailored lyxcode styles.
> >>
> >> As a side note, the lyxcode environment is a hack and a fragile one.
> >> You'd better off using the listings inset, really.
> >>
> >> Abdel.
> >
> > Thanks Abdel,
> >
> > Several months ago I made a policy decision not to use the listings
> > inset, and I don't remember why I made that decision :-)
>
> Hum... I have a strong feeling of "déjà vu": me suggesting the very same
> advice and you answering with the very same answer... getting old :-)
>
> Abdel.

Yeah, do you happen to remember the thread so I can look it up and find out 
why I came to that decision?

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US

[announce] LyXWinInstaller for LyX 1.5.6

[Uwe Stöhr]

Hello LyXers,

I uploaded the new version 3.25 of the LyXWinInstaller. Like for the last 
versions, an update
installer is offered. With this you can easily update your LyX 1.5.5 
installation to LyX 1.5.6:
Log in as adminstrator on your PC and execute the update installer.
Note: The update installer only works when LyX 1.5.5 was installed also with 
the LyXWinInstaller!

The installer can be downloaded from:
https://developer.berlios.de/project/shownotes.php?release_id=14966
and also from
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.5.6
(under the name AltInstaller)

(More infos about the installer can be found here:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller )

Changelog:
-
Version 3.25
- LyX 1.5.6 (http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_5_6.txt)

- updated to MiKTeX 2.7 (build 3107)
- updated to ImageMagick 6.4.2-1
- support to set Ukrainian as LyX's menu language
- When Aspell is installed together with this installer (this will be the
  case when Aspell is not already installed), now every user on the PC
  gets his personal word list files.
- The .lyx file extension is no longer removed when it was not created by
  the LyX version that is uninstalled. (necessary to be able to install new LyX
  versions without touching existing LyX installations)
-

happy LyXing and best regards
Uwe

Re: Excel graphs into Lyx

[Manveru]

Oh YES! This _will_ be very nice feature.

2008/7/28 Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> [...]
> Just FYI, 1.6 _will_ have native graphics clipboard support. On Windows the
> emf and wmf formats will also be supported. This means that all you _will_
> need to do is:
> - select the graph in Excel
> - copy to clipboard (Ctrl-c)
> - paste in LyX (Ctrl-v)
> LyX will ask you were to put the emf file.
>
> Abdel.
>
>
-- 
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http://www.manveru.pl

Re: Reproducible crash 1.6 beta 4

[rgheck]

killermike wrote:

Crash when promoting section heading in branch.

I don't know if this is a bug that is revealed by
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5053   (now solved)

or caused by it. Unfortunately, I don't have the facilities to compile 
the latest version on my Windows box.


To reproduce
1. Start new file
2. Create a branch called "notes"
3. Enter into this branch a single word
4. Use the GUI to make this into a paragraph heading
5. Using the GUI, decrease the nesting depth of this heading.

This causes a crash for me. Platform: Windows XP SP2.


Known bug: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5004. Fixed in trunk.

rh

Re: Double-click inside math mode

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All,

Do you think this new requested feature would be helpful

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5095


I confirmed it.

Abdel.

Reproducible crash 1.6 beta 4

[killermike]

Crash when promoting section heading in branch.

I don't know if this is a bug that is revealed by
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5053   (now solved)

or caused by it. Unfortunately, I don't have the facilities to compile 
the latest version on my Windows box.


To reproduce
1. Start new file
2. Create a branch called "notes"
3. Enter into this branch a single word
4. Use the GUI to make this into a paragraph heading
5. Using the GUI, decrease the nesting depth of this heading.

This causes a crash for me. Platform: Windows XP SP2.

--
http://www.unmusic.co.uk Michael Reed -- technology, gender, and geek culture 
freelance writer

Re: Math in a footnote

[rgheck]

Marwan Boustany wrote:

I tried what you said, it just says the format is unavailable. I have a
complete miktex installation here with the install packages on the fly
enabled...

  

Can you compile anything?

rh

RE: Math in a footnote

[Marwan Boustany]

-Original Message-
From: rgheck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 July 2008 15:44
To: Marwan Boustany
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Math in a footnote

Marwan Boustany wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:50:16 +0100, Marwan Boustany 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:19:55 +0100, rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Marwan Boustany wrote:
 Peace,

 Is there a way to put math (using ctrl-m in windows) into a footnote?

 When I tried, the document would not allow conversion into pdf or any
 other format. Only when removed would it work.

>>> This shouldn't be a problem. I do it all the time. There must be some
>>> other issue. See if you can get the attached file to work. If not, we
>>> can start there. If so, there must be another issue in your file.
>>>
>>> rh
>>>
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> I tried to open it, you see what i saw in the three pictures.
>>
>> I have full miktex 2.7 installed, up to date.
>> lyx 1.5.5.3 on windows xp sp3
>>
>> Thank you for your time
>>
>
> Ok the images are not available for download...  Well I see the text 
> and footnote...  That was the what I see attachment.
>
> The first error says:
>
> The layout file requested by this document, paper. layout, is not 
> usable. This is probably because a LaTeX class or style File required 
> by it is not available, See the Customization documentation For more 
> information, LyX will not be able to produce output.
>
That's a different thing. You don't have paper.cls installed, which is 
what I use by default. Just change the document class to article in 
Document>Settings.

> The second error says:
>
> No inlormation or exporting the Format PDF (pdIlatex).
>
Could be the same cause. Try what I said above and try exporting again.

Rh

I tried what you said, it just says the format is unavailable. I have a
complete miktex installation here with the install packages on the fly
enabled...

Strange.

Marwan

Re: Finding "Bad" characters

[Christian Ridderström]

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Sebastian Rohrer wrote:

after pasting from OOwriter. Is there any way to find those characters? 
It is very tedious by eye...


you can try a divide-and-conquer approach. Erase the last half and see if 
the problem persists. If it does, erase the now remaining last half and so 
on. Pretty soon you should have only a small portion left that you an 
inspect maually. Five times would reduce 32 pages to just one page.


regards,
Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Double-click inside math mode

[Paul Smith]

Dear All,

Do you think this new requested feature would be helpful

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5095

?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

Re: Excel graphs into Lyx

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL wrote:

I tried this and it works with an excellent quality (vector format). It
seems that it doesn't work with excel 2007.

Copy the graph as an image ( press shift and go in the edit menu then
choose something like save an image ).
You'll have a little dialog where you choose the appearance like in print.
Then you open PowerPoint, copy the image in an empty slide ( control-V
does it ).
An finally you save the slide in WMF, the office vector format (Windows
Metafiles).
This file is quite short and in a vector format, you can use it in LyX
without any problem.
( I think it's better to have at least 1.5.5 ).


Just FYI, 1.6 _will_ have native graphics clipboard support. On Windows 
the emf and wmf formats will also be supported. This means that all you 
_will_ need to do is:

- select the graph in Excel
- copy to clipboard (Ctrl-c)
- paste in LyX (Ctrl-v)
LyX will ask you were to put the emf file.

Abdel.

Re: Excel graphs into Lyx

[Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL]

I tried this and it works with an excellent quality (vector format). It 
seems that it doesn't work with excel 2007.


Copy the graph as an image ( press shift and go in the edit menu then 
choose something like save an image ).

You'll have a little dialog where you choose the appearance like in print.
Then you open PowerPoint, copy the image in an empty slide ( control-V 
does it ).
An finally you save the slide in WMF, the office vector format (Windows 
Metafiles).
This file is quite short and in a vector format, you can use it in LyX 
without any problem.

( I think it's better to have at least 1.5.5 ).

(sorry, I translate the menus labels in english, mine is in french ).

See the attached file for the result in PDF;

Hope it helps.
Siegfried.



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Re: LyX website displays incorrectly w/ Safari

[Jens Noeckel]

Christian,

On Jul 28, 2008, at 12:12 AM, Christian Ridderström wrote:


On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Jens Noeckel wrote:

I can't repeat this with Opera on Windows, do you still see this  
problem? (I was doing stuff with the web backend, so maybe it's  
just your browser that needs to reload it's cache or something)

Do others seem something strange when looking at the page:
 http://www.lyx.org/Download


Yes, I can reproduce it with Safari. When you follow a link from  
the homepage, the next page has a link to a non-existent  
stylesheet, http:/farm/pub/skins/lyx/lyx.css


Thanks, that'll greatly help me fix the bug!


The correct URI should be
http://www.lyx.org/farm/pub/skins/lyx/lyx.css

(so the base URI isn't added) That's what causes the missing  
formating. Firefox is better at guessing what you meant here, but  
it really is an error that appears on all the other pages except  
for the lyx home page.


Funny though, I thought you didn't have to give the domain in the  
URI when linking from a page. Anyway, if it doesn't work in Safari,  
I'll have to add the domain.



Christian,
I don't know how your server is set up, but relative addresses should  
always be fine, and even your intended approach should be doable:
Everything should work fine if you leave out the domain, provided you  
_also_ leave out the "http:/" (this would have been incorrect syntax  
in any case because of the missing second backslash). Then either  
make the path relative to the current page, or start with "/farm/..."  
to specify an absolute address from the server root.


Jens

Re: Difficulty with LyX-Code and Copystyle

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Steve Litt wrote:

On Monday 28 July 2008 03:22, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

I'm not calling this a bug because maybe it was never intended to work
this way, but if I create and use two LyX styles, Code1 and Code2, each
of them with CopyStyle LyX-Code, then on conversion to PDF I get the
following error message:

Hi Steve,

Not directly related to this bug but, FYI, you might want to try the
listings inset instead of lyxcode; you would get syntax highlightting
for free thanks to the listings LateX package if that's what you are
intented to do with your tailored lyxcode styles.

As a side note, the lyxcode environment is a hack and a fragile one.
You'd better off using the listings inset, really.

Abdel.


Thanks Abdel,

Several months ago I made a policy decision not to use the listings inset, and
I don't remember why I made that decision :-)


Hum... I have a strong feeling of "déjà vu": me suggesting the very same 
advice and you answering with the very same answer... getting old :-)


Abdel.

Re: Difficulty with LyX-Code and Copystyle

[rgheck]

Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

rgheck wrote:

G. Milde wrote:

On 27.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:

Is there a simple way I can use CopyStyle with LyX-Code and not get
this
error?


Yes. Overwrite the Preamble definiton by defining a replacement (maybe
empty) in your copy.


FYI: LyX 1.6 has a new "AddToPreamble" tag for cases where you don't


LyX 1.6 _will_ have...

I just realized that we (me included) keep evangelizing how great 1.6 
is (will be) but firt we should release it ;-)



True. And even I'm not using it for every day work yet

rh

Re: Difficulty with LyX-Code and Copystyle

[Abdelrazak Younes]

rgheck wrote:

G. Milde wrote:

On 27.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:

Is there a simple way I can use CopyStyle with LyX-Code and not get
this
error?


Yes. Overwrite the Preamble definiton by defining a replacement (maybe
empty) in your copy.


FYI: LyX 1.6 has a new "AddToPreamble" tag for cases where you don't


LyX 1.6 _will_ have...

I just realized that we (me included) keep evangelizing how great 1.6 is 
(will be) but firt we should release it ;-)


Abdel.

Re: Difficulty with LyX-Code and Copystyle

[rgheck]

G. Milde wrote:

On 27.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:
  

Is there a simple way I can use CopyStyle with LyX-Code and not get this
error?
  


Yes. Overwrite the Preamble definiton by defining a replacement (maybe
empty) in your copy.

  
FYI: LyX 1.6 has a new "AddToPreamble" tag for cases where you don't 
want to over-write but just want to add something. If I'm remembering 
correctly, I found I needed the tag somewhere, so added it.


rh

Re: Math in a footnote

[rgheck]

Marwan Boustany wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:50:16 +0100, Marwan Boustany 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:19:55 +0100, rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Marwan Boustany wrote:

Peace,

Is there a way to put math (using ctrl-m in windows) into a footnote?

When I tried, the document would not allow conversion into pdf or any
other format. Only when removed would it work.


This shouldn't be a problem. I do it all the time. There must be some
other issue. See if you can get the attached file to work. If not, we
can start there. If so, there must be another issue in your file.

rh



Peace,

I tried to open it, you see what i saw in the three pictures.

I have full miktex 2.7 installed, up to date.
lyx 1.5.5.3 on windows xp sp3

Thank you for your time



Ok the images are not available for download...  Well I see the text 
and footnote...  That was the what I see attachment.


The first error says:

The layout file requested by this document, paper. layout, is not 
usable. This is probably because a LaTeX class or style File required 
by it is not available, See the Customization documentation For more 
information, LyX will not be able to produce output.


That's a different thing. You don't have paper.cls installed, which is 
what I use by default. Just change the document class to article in 
Document>Settings.



The second error says:

No inlormation or exporting the Format PDF (pdIlatex).


Could be the same cause. Try what I said above and try exporting again.

rh

[Fwd: Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.5.6 is released]

[ddimuc]

I forgot to mention: I am a reluctant? proud? against my wishes? member
of the LyX group :)

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.5.6 is released
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:11:59 -0400
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Re: 1.5.6 deb

[Manveru]

This was discussed some time ago that plenty security rules does not allow
LyX team and other to publish such packages. There is a team in Ubuntu which
should be responsible for preparing secure reviewed packages for
Ubuntu/Debian users. Try to join them if you want contribute in pacakge
preparation.

Mam nadzieję, że jasno to wyjaśniłem :-)

M.

W dniu 28 lipca 2008 14:20 użytkownik Tomasz Kołodziejski <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał:

> Hi,
>
> since I experienced some problems with using the opensuse rpm package
> I compiled from source myself. I really like LyX so I want help others
> to use it. I've created a package for Ubuntu Hardy which you can find
> on my server --- http://neo.mlodzi.pl/tmp/lyx_1.5.6-1_i386.deb . I'd
> like to see it copied ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.5.6 (<- here
> ;-)).
>
> If someone read this e-mail I'd like to get an answer whether I write
> into a vacuum or not.
>
> Thanks a lot for your effort,
> Tomasz Kołodziejski
>

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1.5.6 deb

[Tomasz Kołodziejski]

Hi,

since I experienced some problems with using the opensuse rpm package
I compiled from source myself. I really like LyX so I want help others
to use it. I've created a package for Ubuntu Hardy which you can find
on my server --- http://neo.mlodzi.pl/tmp/lyx_1.5.6-1_i386.deb . I'd
like to see it copied ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.5.6 (<- here
;-)).

If someone read this e-mail I'd like to get an answer whether I write
into a vacuum or not.

Thanks a lot for your effort,
Tomasz Kołodziejski

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

John McCabe-Dansted wrote:

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

To the discussion about data format preference:

I am reading all your comments about XML, YAML and other suggested data
formats. And this discussion reminds me something about XML what almost
nobody is remeber about. How many LyX user are working in large team
projects? How often they have to merge text files from different branches?
Have you ever merge XML? I tried - it is horrible work.


I don't see why it would be harder if we "just replace \begin...\end
with<>...".


I think LyX cannot exist with XML data format without build-in document
merge functionality.


This would be nice in any case.


Shameless plug:

http://www.lyx.org/Donate#sponsorship

Abdel.

Re: Lyx functions

[Pavel Sanda]

> What about in standard mode when I am writing text?

nearly all "mouse actions" can be done by keyboard action,
you just have to lern the keybindings or bind new functions for your usage.

>Can I use lyx as a non WYSIWYG editor?

you have to choose what you want. if you want vim-li editing, use vim :)
pavel

Re: making a binary tarball from SVN

[Pavel Sanda]

> On 14.07.08, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "G. Milde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > > compiling LyX from the source took me some hours, so I thought I could
> > > install from a tarball on my second machine. However, trying with
> > >
> > >   make dist-bzip2
> 
> > Does it work now?
> 
> Sort of: it complained about a too long path name for one of the .svn/...
> paths.

yes this happens when you dont use svn export before making tarballs
(see release procedure in wiki).

> Only now I realized that the dist* targets create a *source* tarball,
> while I would like a *binary* tarball for transfer of the compiled lyx to
> my second machine.
> 
> Is there an easy way to make a *binary* tarball out of the SVN sources?

clean solution is to make binary package and each linux distribution has
its own way of working with binary packages.

if you are interested only in local instalation, you can configure with some
--prefix=/home/guenter/lyx etc, make the whole svn tree and run only make 
install
on all computers you want to have binary install in your home...
of course only in case all these computers have the same architecture (cpu, 
libraries)
etc.

pavel

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

[Abdelrazak Younes]

G. Milde wrote:

On 28.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:

On Monday 28 July 2008 01:10, John McCabe-Dansted wrote:

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

To the discussion about data format preference:

... Have you ever merged XML? I tried - it is horrible work.

I don't see why it would be harder if we "just replace \begin...\end
with<>...".



Trouble is, replacing \begin..\end with<>...  is a hack.

...

There's no such requirement in XML, and if we require it, that's a
hack.


I'd call it a layout convention.

IMO it is perfectly legal to define the lyx file format as

... uses XML ...
... is laid out in a manner to facilitate processing by tools that
operate on a line basis (grep, merge, sed, awk, ...)
...


Right, but LyX should not depend on this human friendly format. IOW LyX 
will be able to parse non nicely formatted .lyx file but will always 
output nicely formatted .lyx file.


We could add an option to lyx2lyx so that badly formatted LyX files 
generated by some external tool would be transformed into a nicely 
formatted .lyx file. See? I don't forecast any parsing problem :-)


Abdel.

Re: Lyx functions

[Daniel Lohmann]

I really like lyx. I just find something a bit hard. Some things  
are easier
to be done via the keyboard (otherwise it's back to MS point and  
click
nightmare). I mean in an equation it is much easier to just do \pi  
for Pi or
\neq for the not equal sign. What about in standard mode when I am  
writing
text? Can I use lyx as a non WYSIWYG editor? I heard some people  
say using
vim and then compiling the document but I really don't have time  
learning
the whole lot of things about TeX/Latex and I would like partial  
WYSIWYG
with options of inputing source directly and the application  
substituting it

with the appropriate symbols. Can Lyx do that?


Note that in LyX equations you actually can type math commands (like  
\pi), Lyx then automagically replaces them by the corresponding symbol  
-- IMHO a really cool features!


 Daniel

Re: making a binary tarball from SVN

[G. Milde]

On 14.07.08, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> "G. Milde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > compiling LyX from the source took me some hours, so I thought I could
> > install from a tarball on my second machine. However, trying with
> >
> >   make dist-bzip2

> Does it work now?

Sort of: it complained about a too long path name for one of the .svn/...
paths.

After removing all the .svn directories, I was able to `make dist` creating
both bzip2 and gz source tarball.

Only now I realized that the dist* targets create a *source* tarball,
while I would like a *binary* tarball for transfer of the compiled lyx to
my second machine.

Is there an easy way to make a *binary* tarball out of the SVN sources?

Otherwise, I'll try with keeping a SVN checkout on my USB-stick, compile
on one machine and `make install` on both machines...

Günter

Re: Lyx functions

[Manveru]

If I understood your thoughts correctly you are looking for ERT.

2008/7/28 Simeon Simeonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I really like lyx. I just find something a bit hard. Some things are easier
> to be done via the keyboard (otherwise it's back to MS point and click
> nightmare). I mean in an equation it is much easier to just do \pi for Pi or
> \neq for the not equal sign. What about in standard mode when I am writing
> text? Can I use lyx as a non WYSIWYG editor? I heard some people say using
> vim and then compiling the document but I really don't have time learning
> the whole lot of things about TeX/Latex and I would like partial WYSIWYG
> with options of inputing source directly and the application substituting it
> with the appropriate symbols. Can Lyx do that?
>
>
>
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Re: Finding "Bad" characters

[Abdelrazak Younes]

G. Milde wrote:

On 25.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:

I assume unicode is a 16 bit representation of characters.


Actually, unicode is a character<-->  number mapping without an upper
limit to the numbers.

Once upon a time, 16 bit where enough to represent all defined unicode
characters, but even then several different encodings into a computer
readable format existed. Programs that relied on unicode == 16 bit
(including LaTeX) have problems now with higher unicode numbers.


FYI, LyX uses utf32 internally, that is the 32 bit version, and utf8 as 
its file format.


Abdel.

Re: LyX website displays incorrectly w/ Safari

[Manveru]

IVHMO it is Safari bug, that it does not add domain automatically when the
path starts from /.

M.

2008/7/28 Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Jens Noeckel wrote:
>
>  I can't repeat this with Opera on Windows, do you still see this problem?
>>> (I was doing stuff with the web backend, so maybe it's just your browser
>>> that needs to reload it's cache or something)
>>>
>>> Do others seem something strange when looking at the page:
>>>  http://www.lyx.org/Download
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I can reproduce it with Safari. When you follow a link from the
>> homepage, the next page has a link to a non-existent stylesheet,
>> http:/farm/pub/skins/lyx/lyx.css
>>
>
> Thanks, that'll greatly help me fix the bug!
>
>  The correct URI should be
>> http://www.lyx.org/farm/pub/skins/lyx/lyx.css
>>
>> (so the base URI isn't added) That's what causes the missing formating.
>> Firefox is better at guessing what you meant here, but it really is an error
>> that appears on all the other pages except for the lyx home page.
>>
>
> Funny though, I thought you didn't have to give the domain in the URI when
> linking from a page. Anyway, if it doesn't work in Safari, I'll have to add
> the domain.
>
>
> /Christian
>
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> http://www.md.kth.se/~chr 
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Re: Excel graphs into Lyx

[Manveru]

Two different suggestions:

1. Open .xls in OpenOffice Calc; then copy chart to OO Draw and save as EPS.

2. Print chart to .ps file and convert to .eps by ghostscript; some
Postscript printers in windows allows to enable .eps mode.

I think I have one yet solution, but I forgot now how I copied chart. I
think I have Adobe Distiller which converts excel to PDF.

3. I can suggest move data to CSV and plot them by gnuplot, with epsc2
driver it creates plot looking much nicer than those from Excel.

M.

2008/7/28 timtheenchanter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> Sorry if this question has been answered before but what is the best way to
> import excel graphs (Charts) into Lyx. If I convert them to a .jpg for
> example the quality of the finished document is poor.
>
> Thanks
> John
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> Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>


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Re: Finding "Bad" characters

[G. Milde]

On 25.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:
...

> I know nothing about unicode, so I'd need to be brought up to speed on that 
> before writing the program. 

References:

* The Absolute Minimum Every Software Developer Absolutely,
  Positively Must Know About Unicode and Character Sets (No Excuses!)
  http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html

* On the Goodness of Unicode
  http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/06/Unicode

* Wikipedia article on Unicode
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode

> I assume unicode is a 16 bit representation of characters.

Actually, unicode is a character <--> number mapping without an upper
limit to the numbers. 

Once upon a time, 16 bit where enough to represent all defined unicode
characters, but even then several different encodings into a computer
readable format existed. Programs that relied on unicode == 16 bit
(including LaTeX) have problems now with higher unicode numbers.

Günter

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

[G. Milde]

On 28.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Monday 28 July 2008 01:10, John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > To the discussion about data format preference:
> > >
> > > ... Have you ever merged XML? I tried - it is horrible work.
> >
> > I don't see why it would be harder if we "just replace \begin...\end
> > with <>...".

> Trouble is, replacing \begin..\end with <>... is a hack. 
...
> There's no such requirement in XML, and if we require it, that's a 
> hack. 

I'd call it a layout convention.

IMO it is perfectly legal to define the lyx file format as

... uses XML ...
... is laid out in a manner to facilitate processing by tools that
operate on a line basis (grep, merge, sed, awk, ...) 
...

Günter

Re: Difficulty with LyX-Code and Copystyle

[G. Milde]

On 27.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sunday 27 July 2008 17:09, Steve Litt wrote:
> > ...
> > if I create and use two LyX styles, Code1 and Code2, each of them
> > with CopyStyle LyX-Code, then on conversion to PDF I get the following
> > error message:
> >
> > LaXeX Error: Command \lyxcode already defined
> >
> > I can use all Code1, or all Code2, or all LyX-Code, but if I have any two
> > of them in the document, I get an error like described above.
...
> > Is there a simple way I can use CopyStyle with LyX-Code and not get this
> > error?

Yes. Overwrite the Preamble definiton by defining a replacement (maybe
empty) in your copy.

> I found a fix I can use locally, and a fix that could be made with the LyX 
> distribution. Let me start with the latter...

> LyX-Code is defined in lyxdir/layouts/lyxmacros.inc thusly:

> Style LyX-Code
...
>   Preamble
...
>   EndPreamble
...
> End

> Notice that the LaTeX environment, lyxcode, is defined within the LyX 
> environment definition, so if LyX-Code is mentioned twice, \lyxcode is 
> defined twice, which is an error.

No.

If you use LyX-Code n times (with n = 1, ..., \infty) in your
document, exactly one Preamble code is inserted in the latex preamble.

Iy you do not use LyX-Code (i.e. n=0), the Preamble latex code is not
used.

> To fix the problem, the developers could remove everything from Preamble to 
> EndPreamble in the LyX-Code definition, and put it after the "Format 4" and 
> before any LyX style definitions. 

In this case, every document that used this layout will have the \lyxcode
definition in the latex preamble. As most documents do not use LyX-Code,
this is not desired.

> It's nice and modular to put the LaTeX definition inside the LyX
> definition, but doing so greatly reduces the value of CopyStyle, so I'd
> recommend against it.

It also produces cleaner LaTeX sources, so I want it to stay.

All you have to remember is that the Styles that define their own
preamble need special care when copied with CopyStyle (i.e. a new
Preamble definition).

> In other words, I copied and pasted \lyxcode to \litt_lyxcode within my
> layout file, and copied and pasted LyX-Code (minus the
> Preamble/EndPreamble section) to litt_LyX-Code within my layout file,
> and then did CopyStyle on litt_LyX-Code. It worked perfectly!

If you need the lyxcode definition in several Styles, you can:

1. Copy the Preamble section from the original LyXCode to your layout
   file (as general Preamble code).
   
2. Redefine LyXCode:

   Style LyXCode
  Preamble
  EndPreamble
  
3. Copy the redefined one, e.g.

   Style MyLyXCode
  CopyStyle LyXCode
  LatexName  \mycode
  Preamble
\newcommand{\mycode}{Hi world!\\ \lyxcode}
  EndPreamble
   End
   
This is Untested, but you should get the general idea!

Günter

Excel graphs into Lyx

[timtheenchanter]

Sorry if this question has been answered before but what is the best way to
import excel graphs (Charts) into Lyx. If I convert them to a .jpg for
example the quality of the finished document is poor. 

Thanks
John
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Lyx functions

[Simeon Simeonov]

I really like lyx. I just find something a bit hard. Some things are easier to 
be done via the keyboard (otherwise it's back to MS point and click nightmare). 
I mean in an equation it is much easier to just do \pi for Pi or \neq for the 
not equal sign. What about in standard mode when I am writing text? Can I use 
lyx as a non WYSIWYG editor? I heard some people say using vim and then 
compiling the document but I really don't have time learning the whole lot of 
things about TeX/Latex and I would like partial WYSIWYG with options of 
inputing source directly and the application substituting it with the 
appropriate symbols. Can Lyx do that?



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Re: 1.6.x Beta 4 bug -- section heading.

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

G. Milde wrote:
> > Damn. Sorry about that. I searched bugzilla without finding anything.
>
> I found, that the default settings of the bugzilla search does not include
> UNCONFIRMED bugs. This way, it is quite common to miss the most recent bug
> reports.

In general, when referring to a beta release, you should also query resolved 
bugs, since bugs in a beta might well be fixed in SVN in the meantime.

(for stable versions, we keep the reports open until the fixes are part of a 
release).

Jürgen

Re: 1.6.x Beta 4 bug -- section heading.

[G. Milde]

On 27.07.08, killermike wrote:
> Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
>> killermike wrote:

>>> I was unable to find any mention of this in bugzilla.
>> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5053
> Damn. Sorry about that. I searched bugzilla without finding anything.

I found, that the default settings of the bugzilla search does not include
UNCONFIRMED bugs. This way, it is quite common to miss the most recent bug
reports.

Günter

Re: Difficulty with LyX-Code and Copystyle

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 28 July 2008 03:22, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm not calling this a bug because maybe it was never intended to work
> > this way, but if I create and use two LyX styles, Code1 and Code2, each
> > of them with CopyStyle LyX-Code, then on conversion to PDF I get the
> > following error message:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Not directly related to this bug but, FYI, you might want to try the
> listings inset instead of lyxcode; you would get syntax highlightting
> for free thanks to the listings LateX package if that's what you are
> intented to do with your tailored lyxcode styles.
>
> As a side note, the lyxcode environment is a hack and a fragile one.
> You'd better off using the listings inset, really.
>
> Abdel.

Thanks Abdel,

Several months ago I made a policy decision not to use the listings inset, and 
I don't remember why I made that decision :-)

Meanwhile, the LyX-Code environment does pretty much what I need as long as I 
rewrite it with the LaTeX part separate from the LyX.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

[Steve Litt]

On Monday 28 July 2008 01:10, John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To the discussion about data format preference:
> >
> > I am reading all your comments about XML, YAML and other suggested data
> > formats. And this discussion reminds me something about XML what almost
> > nobody is remeber about. How many LyX user are working in large team
> > projects? How often they have to merge text files from different
> > branches? Have you ever merge XML? I tried - it is horrible work.
>
> I don't see why it would be harder if we "just replace \begin...\end
> with <>...".

Trouble is, replacing \begin..\end with <>... is a hack. LyX developers 
have defined LyX native format as \begin always is the first character on a 
line. There's no such requirement in XML, and if we require it, that's a 
hack. If we don't require it, LyX-XML parsing becomes a whole new level of 
difficulty.

Like I said, nothing that XML->YAML and YAML->XML can't solve, but those would 
be required. Incidentally, I just heard there are already standalone programs 
that do those conversions, so before writing code myself, I'll investigate.

SteveT
 
Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US

Re: Difficulty with LyX-Code and Copystyle

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

I'm not calling this a bug because maybe it was never intended to work this
way, but if I create and use two LyX styles, Code1 and Code2, each of them
with CopyStyle LyX-Code, then on conversion to PDF I get the following error
message:


Hi Steve,

Not directly related to this bug but, FYI, you might want to try the 
listings inset instead of lyxcode; you would get syntax highlightting 
for free thanks to the listings LateX package if that's what you are 
intented to do with your tailored lyxcode styles.


As a side note, the lyxcode environment is a hack and a fragile one. 
You'd better off using the listings inset, really.


Abdel.

Re: Math in a footnote

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Yago wrote:

Peace


Are you going to pollute the list with your empty replies each time 
Marwan send something?


Humour is best appreciated when done once...

Abdel.

Re: Math in a footnote

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Marwan Boustany wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:16:56 +0100, Marwan Boustany
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Peace,

Is there a way to put math (using ctrl-m in windows) into a footnote?

When I tried, the document would not allow conversion into pdf or any
other format. Only when removed would it work.

Thank you for your time.

Marwan



Peace,

By the way my other email above on the lyx list "Cannot produce PDF,
Postscript or DVI"

Was sent yesterday... and it was somehow delayed. This posting is from
today where i have found what stopped my document being converted to pdf
etc..


I see it today. The mailing lists were down over the week-end apparently.



My apologies for the inconvenience.


It is not your fault :-)

Cheers,
Abdel.

Re: LyX website displays incorrectly w/ Safari

[Christian Ridderström]

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Jens Noeckel wrote:

I can't repeat this with Opera on Windows, do you still see this problem? 
(I was doing stuff with the web backend, so maybe it's just your browser 
that needs to reload it's cache or something)


Do others seem something strange when looking at the page:
 http://www.lyx.org/Download


Yes, I can reproduce it with Safari. When you follow a link from the 
homepage, the next page has a link to a non-existent stylesheet, 
http:/farm/pub/skins/lyx/lyx.css


Thanks, that'll greatly help me fix the bug!


The correct URI should be
http://www.lyx.org/farm/pub/skins/lyx/lyx.css

(so the base URI isn't added) That's what causes the missing formating. 
Firefox is better at guessing what you meant here, but it really is an 
error that appears on all the other pages except for the lyx home page.


Funny though, I thought you didn't have to give the domain in the URI when 
linking from a page. Anyway, if it doesn't work in Safari, I'll have to 
add the domain.


/Christian

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