Re: Default label???
Am 23.03.2011 um 23:51 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Wednesday 23 March 2011 09:04:05 you wrote: >> On 03/22/2011 07:33 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Steve Litt > wrote: Hi all, I'm now labelling all 57 chapters of my new book, and what a PITA! First of all, there's no hotkey -- I have to do Insert->Label on every one. >>> >>> At least for this you can easily define a custom shortcut. See the >>> docs (Customization and Functions, I think). >> >> How about alt-i, l? (Keyboard-based menu access.) >> But even worse, the label defaults to the first three words, and often the first word is "The". Is there a way to have the label default to the first five words? >>> >>> I have no idea, but this might be hardcoded. You have always the >>> option to change it in the sources and rebuild it for you needs. >>> Otherwise perhaps file a bug report. >> >> Rainer's idea about this is OK, but it seems a lot of work for not much >> payoff. >> >> Richard > > Hi Richard, > > You'd have a new respect for the payoff after labeling 55 chapters with more > than 3 words, and many start with "The" or "A". > > If Rainer's idea is too much work, an easier route could be made. Somewhere > in > the code is a constant, variable or magic number describing the max length in > words of a default label. Just use that constant, variable or magic number to > set a variable, and then override the variable based on an environment > variable if the environment variable exists. I'd guess it would be about a > ten > minute change. > > Then, if that environment variable solution becomes popular, at a later time > the number of words can be set using a genuine configuration screen. > > How does that sound? As a user I'd like and propose another solution: * maintain a black list of words [per language] (give the user a chance to edit it) * skip words from this list at the beginning * use the remaining words until max is reached or * use more words being skipped if the max is not reached. The problem is where to store this list of words - we have too many RC-variables already. Stephan
Currvita package--rename bibliography title
Hi LyXers,
Hopefully this post saves you some time...
If you are using the CV package currvita and wish to rename or
suppress the bibliography title, you must use this command in the
preamble:
\renewcommand{\cvbibname}{NewName}
Currvita uses cvbibname instead of refname. So if you are trying to
change the title using refname, you are in for a long evening.
Cheers!
~g
Only 2 options for output?
Hi. When I open LyX 2.00 rc1 (on a Mac 10.5), I only see two options for output RTF and LyXHTML. What happened to PDF, PS, and DVI? Sincerely,
Re: LyX Promotion
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, John Kane wrote: Logic splitting here but I would be coming, well am, from an SGML,OOo/AmiPro, FullWrite Professional background and there still seem to be quite a few WordPerfect people still out there. Agreed that the majority of people are likely to be Word or Latex but not all, I'll throw in my opinion, too. It's free and well worth the price. About 15 years ago we had this same discussion about linux: how do we get more people to defenestrate and adopt linux or the *BSDs. The consensus settled down to: don't do anything. Those who want to work in a better, more secure computing environment will do so. Those who want to point-and-click/drag-and-drool, and not learn how to type at a CLI are not candidates for the unices. And Microsoft is welcome to support them. It's the same with LyX/LaTeX. Not everyone cares about typeset output (but put a page from OO.o Writer next to the same text from TeX and everyone can see the difference), and not everyone wants to understand what's going on underneath the hood. To use LyX you need to know LaTeX. For most of us, too, we accept that we're not expert typographers, page layout gurus, or document structure experts. So we leave those to the professionals and we just produce our documents while focusing on content (the substantive) and ignoring the superficial. Yes, we sometimes need to change appearances, but we can do this very easily with the KOMA-script and Memoir classes. However, many in the Microsoft Word world just don't care. And, frankly, I don't want them to switch unless they're willing to take the time to learn a different paradigm and understand what is underneath what they do. On may other open source software mail lists I see the struggles of those who want to run the applications on Windoze. They don't understand the need to know the tool since all their experience is in using tools that are totally opaque to them because they are proprietary. I had this discussion earlier today with a colleague who does forest analytics and he was explaining how limiting SAS is compared to R, but folks still resist change because it means learning something new. The LyX-using community keeps growing. New users will find it just like the rest of us did. Rich
Re: LyX Promotion
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 09:54:29 you wrote: > As for Word/OO<-->LyX interoperability, that seems a chimera. How can > LyX ever be interoperable with Word, when even the LaTeX/LyX roundtrip > will not get you back the document you started from? It seems to me > that a more reasonable goal would be to have a Word-output function > that strips all formatting except the semantically relevant items > (emphasis, etc) and produce a clean Word file ready to be imported > into a typesetting program or to be sent to Word-only people. Even better, in addition to exporting emphasis and noun, have it export the named but empty styles (environments and character styles) used in the doc, so the word doc has the styles and the text marked up with those styles. Then all that remains is to go in and modify those styles in MSWord or OOffice to produce the desired look. After all, modifying a style in Word is five minutes, not five hours. This is a wonderful idea. Now if we can only go the other direction... Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Default label???
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 09:04:05 you wrote: > On 03/22/2011 07:33 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm now labelling all 57 chapters of my new book, and what a PITA! > >> > >> First of all, there's no hotkey -- I have to do Insert->Label on every > >> one. > > > > At least for this you can easily define a custom shortcut. See the > > docs (Customization and Functions, I think). > > How about alt-i, l? (Keyboard-based menu access.) > > >> But even worse, the label defaults to the first three words, and often > >> the first word is "The". Is there a way to have the label default to > >> the first five words? > > > > I have no idea, but this might be hardcoded. You have always the > > option to change it in the sources and rebuild it for you needs. > > Otherwise perhaps file a bug report. > > Rainer's idea about this is OK, but it seems a lot of work for not much > payoff. > > Richard Hi Richard, You'd have a new respect for the payoff after labeling 55 chapters with more than 3 words, and many start with "The" or "A". If Rainer's idea is too much work, an easier route could be made. Somewhere in the code is a constant, variable or magic number describing the max length in words of a default label. Just use that constant, variable or magic number to set a variable, and then override the variable based on an environment variable if the environment variable exists. I'd guess it would be about a ten minute change. Then, if that environment variable solution becomes popular, at a later time the number of words can be set using a genuine configuration screen. How does that sound? Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Howto put itemize inside beamer block
drfridolin gmail.com> writes: > > yes, but what is the Mac Os X equivalent for (M-S-right arrow)? > Check the menu (Edit > Increase list depth) and see if it gives the shortcut. Paul
Re: LyX Promotion
On 2011-03-23, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Rob Oakes wrote: >> While I have some ideas about why it may have happened, I think that >> Pavel hit the nail on the head. When I talk to people about LyX, they >> seem to think of it as a specialized academic writing tool. Basically, >> a program which helps professors and students write a thesis or >> articles. (To be even more narrow, it seems like many think it is for >> math and physics people to write a thesis or article.) IMV, handling formal, complex documents and math typesetting are actually LyX main strenghts. ... > To the extent that the stereotype is true, it may also be worth > considering what the reasons are for this, and if it is reasonable to > remove those reasons. Off-the-top of my head the following could be > issues. > 1) Compile Errors. ... > 1b) Perhaps we could improve the latex export so that compile errors > only occur if the user uses ERT. This is an ongoing task (as LaTeX evolves and there are far too many ways to create a compile error that cannot be foreseen). However, my experience is that LaTeX compile errors are already treated as bugs, so no change in policy is needed. Also there is usually fast help (hints on "thw right way" or workarounds) when compile errors are reported on the users list (even faster if a minimal example is given). > 2) Compatibility with Word. Typical users expect to be able to open > and save word documents. ... > 3) Not WYSIWYG. ... > After the content is complete, I go though a cycle of: Notice > something weird with the line-breaking in the PDF, muck around with > the LyX source hoping it fixed the problem; recompile PDF. This can > take a while and having a WYSIWYG mode could make this process a > factor of ten times faster. Where do you expecte the speedup? * Compiling a long, complex document can take considerable time. In WYSIWYG mode, this time would be needed with every edit action. * A major speedup of the process is possible without WYSIWYG mode: The keyword is "inverse search": clicking in the PDF viewer brings you to the right spot in the source. Getting this to work out of the box seems a worthwile task. Günter
Re: Cursor Size in RC1?
On 23-3-2011 23:16, Greg Kise wrote: Hi LyXers, There was some discussion of making it possible to change cursor size in LyX2.0RC1 (especially needed for Mac). Was this done? And if so, how do I do it? I have 300+ pages to edit and the one pixel cursor is making me bug-eyed ;-). Thanks! ~greg Yes, it is done. You can find it in Tools->Preferences->Editing->Control->Cursor Width. However, you'll have to wait for RC2. Vincent
Cursor Size in RC1?
Hi LyXers, There was some discussion of making it possible to change cursor size in LyX2.0RC1 (especially needed for Mac). Was this done? And if so, how do I do it? I have 300+ pages to edit and the one pixel cursor is making me bug- eyed ;-). Thanks! ~greg
Re: LyX Promotion
--- On Wed, 3/23/11, Liviu Andronic wrote: > From: Liviu Andronic > Subject: Re: LyX Promotion > To: "Graham Smith" > Cc: "LyX Devel" , lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Received: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:34 AM > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:12 AM, > Graham Smith > wrote: > > One possible approach is to write an introduction to > Lyx specifically aimed > > at Word users. > > > This makes a lot of sense to me. Most of all we probably > need an > introduction for those coming from the world of Word > (highest > priority) and, perhaps, one for those with a heavy LaTeX > background. > (For the latter, we might simply recycle the existing Help > > Tutorial > > LyX for LaTeX users, but give it much better > visibility on the > lyx.org home page.) > > If you give it some thought, the two are essentially the > only ones > that make sense, because there aren't really other types of > newcomers: > you are either already familiar with Word, or with LaTeX; > else you > wouldn't be looking at LyX in the first place. Logic splitting here but I would be coming, well am, from an SGML,OOo/AmiPro, FullWrite Professional background and there still seem to be quite a few WordPerfect people still out there. Agreed that the majority of people are likely to be Word or Latex but not all, > > Liviu > > > > This has been done for R at > > http://chartsgraphs.wordpress.com/learnr-toolkit/ where > the tutorials assume > > familiarity with Excel and demonstrate how things > differ (or are the same) > > in R. There have also been similar things done for the > GIS program Manifold, > > comparing it against the Industry standard products > from ESRI. > > > > I had a couple of aborted attempts with Lyx, because, > as a Word User, I just > > couldn't get my head around certain concepts (the > concept of compiling a > > document probably being the main one). I then > eventually came back to Lyx > > via SWeave in R, which introduced me to Latex, and > then Lyx fell into place > > and I realised it gave me an easy interface to Latex > for every day > > documents. > > > > A Lyx equivilant of the R tutorials would have been a > great help. > > > > Graham > > > > > > > > On 22 March 2011 15:51, Rob Oakes > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Users and Developers, > >> > >> Thank you to both Pavel and Stefano for ollowing > up with Google about why > >> the GSoC application was turned down. Is there any > way that I could help in > >> that review? Stefano, will you be attending the > IRC meeting to be held later > >> today? I think it's very important that we > understand why LyX was rejected > >> as a mentoring organization, and I'd be willing to > hep in any way necessary. > >> > >> While I have some ideas about why it may have > happened, I think that Pavel > >> hit the nail on the head. When I talk to people > about LyX, they seem to > >> think of it as a specialized academic writing > tool. Basically, a program > >> which helps professors and students write a thesis > or articles. (To be even > >> more narrow, it seems like many think it is for > math and physics people to > >> write a thesis or article.) Which is to say, a > specialized program with an > >> incredibly small user base and use. > >> > >> While that stereotype may be somewhat true (I > don't think anyone would > >> argue that many of the developers and users are > within academics), it > >> significantly understates LyX's appeal, especially > if you consider the > >> enhancements available in the upcoming version. > From my own personal > >> experience, I've found LyX to be the most capable > pre-press/writing tool > >> I've ever come across. If I were a publishing > company or involved in the > >> creation of any type of documentation, I would be > looking at LyX very > >> carefully. It's the only tool that I know that > allows you to manage > >> collaboration, typesetting the final output, and > target both electronic and > >> print from the same source. With the recent > explosion of electronic > >> publishing and eBooks, I think that makes it > *highly* relevant. > >> > >> Yet, I'm not sure that the wider community > appreciates that. (Hearing > >> Google's rationale for rejecting the GSoC > application will help somewhat in > >> clarifying how LyX is perceived.) Which really > brings me to the reason I'm > >> writing. > >> > >> Would it be worth trying to promote LyX to people > who might find it > >> helpful? > >> > >> We've talked for a long time about writing a LyX > book, which is an > >> excellent and wonderful project. But what if we > first tested those waters by > >> tackling some smaller projects first? > >> > >> For example: > >> > >> 1.) I just learned about a new open design > magazine this morning, called > >> LibreGraphics magazine (http://libregraphicsmag.com/). The goal of the > >> publication is to help designers find tools for > their work. It seems like an > >> article about using LyX for book design would be a > natural fit for their > >> target a
Re: tengo problemas al trabajar con lyx
Buenas tardes, tengo una complicación al trabajar con lyx, al tratar de visualizar el archivo en DVI o PDF me marca los siguientes errores; Missing \endcsname inserted,Argument of \@firstoftwo has an extra }.Paragraph ended before \@firstoftwo was complete. hola, tenés que revisar el preamble y todos los ERT en busca de una orden mal escrita. Para facilitar el proceso podés encerrar grandes porciones de tu trabajo en notas, las cuales no serán procesadas. Sí el error desaparece sabrás que el problema está en la zona encerrada en la nota, de lo contrario en el otro lugar, y así podrás encontrar rápidamente el lugar. Repetí la consulta con más detalles si no lo solucionás. De todas formas, recordá que esta lista es en inglés y que mucha más gente te podrá ayudar si escribís en ese idioma. Saludos Marcelo
Re: tutorials / slides for seminars or workshops (was: 'Re: LyX Promotion')
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Ronen Abravanel wrote: >> > department, and I started with very short into on LaTeX and "in what >> > scene >> > LyX is different from word", and then about 40 minutes of demonstration >> > of >> > what can I do and how can I do that. >> > >> > If there is nothing better, I can translate my tutorial to English (few >> > >> What is the original language of the tutorial? Maybe I could digest it >> myself. >> > Hebrew. > Oh, I haven't gotten to Hebrew yet. :) If you have time and it's not much bother, I would indeed much appreciate a starting point for my workshop. Please let me know. Cheers Liviu
Re: tutorials / slides for seminars or workshops (was: 'Re: LyX Promotion')
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Ronen Abravanel > wrote: > > How long should it be? A year ago I had one hour workshop on LyX in my > > > I highly doubt that it would exceed an hour. > > > > department, and I started with very short into on LaTeX and "in what > scene > > LyX is different from word", and then about 40 minutes of demonstration > of > > what can I do and how can I do that. > > > > If there is nothing better, I can translate my tutorial to English (few > > > What is the original language of the tutorial? Maybe I could digest it > myself. > > Hebrew. > > > beamer-slides, and 3 pages of "do that in order to achieve this..." > list... > > > This is a nice idea for a tutorial, too. > Liviu > > > > > Ronen > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Liviu Andronic > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear all > >> I think this is a very good idea. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Rob Oakes > wrote: > >> > 4.) It seems that there are people willing to help promote/evangelize > >> > LyX, but I'm not sure we offer much in the way of promotional > materials to > >> > help. Would it be worthwhile to create a limited number of tutorials > for > >> > people, like Venom, who will be holding seminars or workshops? (I've > also > >> > thought about teaching a design workshop through my local library, and > these > >> > materials would help provide a curriculum.) > >> > > >> I will be holding a workshop on LyX to graduate types at my university > >> and I'm not very sure where from to begin. Some ready materials > >> (slides on the advantages of LyX/LaTeX over MS Word and the hord, step > >> by step tutorials for creating your first document in LyX, using > >> bibliography and fancier features) would be of enormous help. > >> > >> At the moment I plan to start with the 'Help > Documentation' in > >> preparing my tutorial. Perhaps some of you have already passed through > >> this experience and have some materials readily available? If so, > >> please post them here. > >> > >> Regards > >> Liviu > > > > > > > > -- > Do you know how to read? > http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm > http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader > Do you know how to write? > http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail >
Re: tengo problemas al trabajar con lyx
On 03/23/11 13:40, irving rangel wrote: Buenas tardes, tengo una complicación al trabajar con lyx, al tratar de visualizar el archivo en DVI o PDF me marca los siguientes errores; Missing \endcsname inserted,Argument of \@firstoftwo has an extra }.Paragraph ended before \@firstoftwo was complete. gracias de antemano espero me puedad ayudar, la verdad es que no se a que se deba esto. I occasionally see errors like that, and they are usually the result of me accidentally having a displayed equation (eqnarry environment) in a section or subsection environment. Check each equation for the environment that is being used. If it is a shortish file, send it to me and I will see what I can see. -- David L. Johnson It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster. --Greg LeMond
tengo problemas al trabajar con lyx
Buenas tardes, tengo una complicación al trabajar con lyx, al tratar de visualizar el archivo en DVI o PDF me marca los siguientes errores; Missing \endcsname inserted,Argument of \@firstoftwo has an extra }.Paragraph ended before \@firstoftwo was complete. gracias de antemano espero me puedad ayudar, la verdad es que no se a que se deba esto.
Re: Weird behavior after Lyx 2.0 RC1 installation
I could backtrace the error to the use of "\href" in the definition of
"\email" in "moderncv.cls". Nonetheless, hyperref seems to be loaded
correctly.
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Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Julio Rojas wrote:
> Dear all, I have recently installed Lyx 2.0 RC1 for Windows using the
> not-blundle installer. After that, I can see that Miktex is behaving
> weirdly, as if it was not properly installed. Package manager tells me
> a lot of packages I frequently use are not installed. Lyx compilation
> (with both 1.6.9 and 2.0) works in some cases for packages reported as
> not installed and doesn't work for packages reported as installed. I
> have tried to compile a big document (my thesis) and it gave me plenty
> of errors. I deleted the packages found in
> "~User/AppData/Roaming/MiKTeX/2.8/tex/latex", rebuild MikTeX index and
> it compiled perfectly. Now, I'm trying to compile my CV (which
> compiled perfectly before 2.0 RC1) and the following error appears:
>
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> \hyper@linkurl ...tionraw >>}\relax \Hy@colorlink
> \@urlcolor #1\close@pdflin...
> l.54 \begin{document}
>
> The control sequence at the end of the top line
> of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
> misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
> spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
> and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
>
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> \close@pdflink ->\Hy@endcolorlink
> \Hy@VerboseLinkStop \pdfendlink
> l.54 \begin{document}
>
> The control sequence at the end of the top line
> of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
> misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
> spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
> and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
>
> I have installed "url", "breakurl" and "hyperref" (reported as not
> installed by package manager), which seems to be culprits (even if
> there are no hyperlinks in my CV), to no avail.
>
> Has anybody a clue about what is happening here? Regards.
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>
Re: Howto put itemize inside beamer block
Paul A. Rubin wrote: > > > Nest the itemize under the block (M-S-right arrow). > > /Paul > yes, but what is the Mac Os X equivalent for (M-S-right arrow)? -- View this message in context: http://lyx.475766.n2.nabble.com/Howto-put-itemize-inside-beamer-block-tp478026p6200326.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: LyX Promotion
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Steve Litt > wrote: >> >> If I were going to enumerate the good things about >> LyX, it would be something like this: >> >> * It typesets better and more consistently than its non-TeX based >> competitors. >> * It deletes unintentional double spaces and double newlines. >> * It always calculates references, TOC and indices correctly, unlike >> others. >> * The black on tan is readable and soothing to the eyes for long workdays. >> * Its simple native format invites programmatic document creation and >> editing. >> * It's free software, which protects your documents from vendor lock-in. >> * It's an incredibly fast authoring environment. I completely agree with Steve's points about LyX. In particular, I think he is right in pointing out that "pure" LyX/LaTeX will almost never produce a final "production quality" output. And by "production quality" I mean a document typeset to the typographical standards used and enforced by good publishing houses. LaTeX will almost get you there---let's say 90% of the way---while Word/OO do not even try. But that final 10% requires manual intervention and exact much more pain than you'll ever encounter in Word/OO or other standard word processors. I say this from my very recent experience as the co-editor a 400+ book done with LyX and typeset to publisher's specs. There are many reasons for this fact. One is font handling, which is very poor in LaTeX. Things are getting better with LuaTeX/fonttspec, but the process is still far from straightforward. A second problem is page breaks, which is certainly not one of LaTeX's strengths "out of the box." Not only page breaks need to be manually adjusted in the final draft, getting correct grid-like layout with properly balanced odd and even page is incredibly difficult, in my experience. A recent article in TugBoat went into some details on this issue, and the discussion continued on comp.text.tex. I don't know enough TeX to really use the experimental algorithms that were proposed both in the article and in the group, and my sense of the current state of the art is that a better page-handling algorithm will have to wait for a LuaTeX-based solution. There are other issues as well, some of which Steve mentioned. And I am not even getting into the academia-only problems of correctly typesetting bibliography styles and index layouts. In short: LyX should not be promoted as the tool that gets you "camera-ready" "production-quality" pdf files out of the box. It won't. It will produce"near-production-quality" pdf that will need quite a bit of tweaking and will require specialized skills in order to be "perfect." Out of the box, LyX will produce better looking documents than your average word processor. In my experience, though, most Word users do not really care, because what they get from their word processor is good enough. In a sense, they are right: for informal communication, a document typeset by Word is often sufficient. And for formal communication, well, the professionals who work for publishing houses and/or service bureaus will take your Word document and produce a professionally typeset document with tools like InDesign, Quark Xpress, etcetera. (As some have pointed out, this situation may change as personally produced e-books become a mass phenomenon. In my opinion, though, we are not even close to that.) On the other hand, LyX should be promoted, I think, as a more productive environment. To put it crudely: LyX/LaTeX's weakness (finessing formats is a royal pain) turns into a strength: you know you do not want to mess with the format because it is a pain. Therefore you focus on the content only. Thi sis obviously true for long, complex documents, as many have pointed out. But it is also true for shorter documents. I routinely write everything except letters in LyX, from memos to lecture notes, to notes to myself. to articles, etc. I am much more productive than I have ever been (and I have used every single version of MS Word from 1.0/DOS forward, plus various assorted alternatives). As for Word/OO<-->LyX interoperability, that seems a chimera. How can LyX ever be interoperable with Word, when even the LaTeX/LyX roundtrip will not get you back the document you started from? It seems to me that a more reasonable goal would be to have a Word-output function that strips all formatting except the semantically relevant items (emphasis, etc) and produce a clean Word file ready to be imported into a typesetting program or to be sent to Word-only people. The XHTML output filter in LyX 2.0 is almost there, I think. The biggest hurdle to LyX's acceptance, I think, is that it is almost impossible to cooperate with people not using it. Writing an article, or a memo, or a report, grant application, with Word users is not possible unless the LyX user takes the responsibility of maintaining a LyX master file and inputting corrections and edits from pdf annotations, manual edits on hard copy
Re: Problem integrating a bibtex-style
BTW, don't use white spaces or non-ascii characters in the path of
your bibliography/document (you have a folder called "Lektürekurs
Imerialismus"), or you'll have to escape them (not imposible, but only
more difficult to do). It is better to use underscores ("_") and
regular letters without diacritics.
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Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Julio Rojas wrote:
> Dear Sandro, follow the instructions in the wiki. You need to declare
> your bibliography in the preamble.
>
> 3- Load your bibliography database in the preamble:
>
> \bibliography{}
>
> Note that the bib file must either be located in your texmf-tree, or
> you must enter an absolute path in the command above. (Do not forget a
> "sudo texhash" in the terminal to tell latex where to find the new
> file in the texmf-tree.)
>
> This last note is of the uttermost importance, you have to define the
> ABSOLUTE PATH (complete path if you wish) of your bibliography.
>
> Also, remeber to put the bibliography in the lyx documente INSIDE a
> lyx note (yellow note). Otherwise you'll have more errors.
>
> Everything is in the wiki instructions, follow them. Good luck, keep
> trying, you'll learn a lot in the process. ;)
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Sandro Portmann
> wrote:
>> Okay, but now I'm getting lots of error messages from LyX, when I try to
>> make a PDF-file. For a better overview, I attached the whole directory with
>> its propper .bib file. Hope you can help me out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 23.03.2011 um 14:05 schrieb Julio Rojas:
>>
>>> Dear Sandro. Every time you have an error of the kind <>> `name.sty' not found>> it means you need to install package "name". Go
>>> to your package manager and install "logreq".
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> -
>>> Julio Rojas
>>> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Sandro Portmann
>>> wrote:
Sry folks, I forgot the attachment... Here it is :)
Am 23.03.2011 um 11:29 schrieb Julio Rojas:
> Dear Sandro, this should be pretty straightforward. First of all, have
> you installed and used biblatex before? If not:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex
>
> After you have downloaded, installed and tested biblatex (check your
> TeXLive distribution's package manager), you should download and
> install your desired biblatex style (again, via TeXLive's package
> manager). I believe the README has all the instructions needed AFTER
> you have installed both, biblatex and the style. You should add the
> lines:
>
> \usepackage[style=historische-zeitschrift]{biblatex}
> \bibliography{}
>
> to your document's preamble, then add the bibliography in a note
> environment (so it is only used by Lyx and not latex).
>
> Best of lucks.
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> 2011/3/22 Sandro Portmann :
>> Hi guys
>>
>> I want to implement a new cite style into LyX 1.6.9 on my Mac OS X
>> 10.6.6. It's the ¨Historische Zeitschrift¨ style, which I have
>> downloaded here
>> http://biblatex.dominik-wassenhoven.de/historische-zeitschrift.shtml.
>> The README file, distributed on the page doesn't help me much, so I
>> hope, that anybody here can help me.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Sandro
>>
>> Hallo zusammen
>>
>> Ich schreibs hier nochmals auf Deutsch, da mein English nicht gerade der
>> Hammer ist.
>>
>> Ich versuche nun schon seit längerem, den Zitierstil "Historische
>> Zeitung" in LyX zu integrieren, und bringe es einfach nicht auf die
>> Reihe. Ich hatte ihn hier
>> http://biblatex.dominik-wassenhoven.de/historische-zeitschrift.shtml
>> heruntergeladen. Mit der Instruktion, die in diesem File enthalten ist,
>> kann ich leider nicht all zu viel anfangen, da ich den entsprechenden
>> Ordner einfach nicht finde. Weiss jemand von euch, wie ich das hinkriege?
>>
>> Beste Grüsse
>>
>> Sandro
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Problem integrating a bibtex-style
Dear Sandro, follow the instructions in the wiki. You need to declare
your bibliography in the preamble.
3- Load your bibliography database in the preamble:
\bibliography{}
Note that the bib file must either be located in your texmf-tree, or
you must enter an absolute path in the command above. (Do not forget a
"sudo texhash" in the terminal to tell latex where to find the new
file in the texmf-tree.)
This last note is of the uttermost importance, you have to define the
ABSOLUTE PATH (complete path if you wish) of your bibliography.
Also, remeber to put the bibliography in the lyx documente INSIDE a
lyx note (yellow note). Otherwise you'll have more errors.
Everything is in the wiki instructions, follow them. Good luck, keep
trying, you'll learn a lot in the process. ;)
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Sandro Portmann
wrote:
> Okay, but now I'm getting lots of error messages from LyX, when I try to make
> a PDF-file. For a better overview, I attached the whole directory with its
> propper .bib file. Hope you can help me out.
>
>
>
>
> Am 23.03.2011 um 14:05 schrieb Julio Rojas:
>
>> Dear Sandro. Every time you have an error of the kind <> `name.sty' not found>> it means you need to install package "name". Go
>> to your package manager and install "logreq".
>>
>> Regards.
>> -
>> Julio Rojas
>> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Sandro Portmann
>> wrote:
>>> Sry folks, I forgot the attachment... Here it is :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 23.03.2011 um 11:29 schrieb Julio Rojas:
>>>
Dear Sandro, this should be pretty straightforward. First of all, have
you installed and used biblatex before? If not:
http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex
After you have downloaded, installed and tested biblatex (check your
TeXLive distribution's package manager), you should download and
install your desired biblatex style (again, via TeXLive's package
manager). I believe the README has all the instructions needed AFTER
you have installed both, biblatex and the style. You should add the
lines:
\usepackage[style=historische-zeitschrift]{biblatex}
\bibliography{}
to your document's preamble, then add the bibliography in a note
environment (so it is only used by Lyx and not latex).
Best of lucks.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
2011/3/22 Sandro Portmann :
> Hi guys
>
> I want to implement a new cite style into LyX 1.6.9 on my Mac OS X
> 10.6.6. It's the ¨Historische Zeitschrift¨ style, which I have downloaded
> here
> http://biblatex.dominik-wassenhoven.de/historische-zeitschrift.shtml. The
> README file, distributed on the page doesn't help me much, so I hope,
> that anybody here can help me.
>
> Best regards
>
> Sandro
>
> Hallo zusammen
>
> Ich schreibs hier nochmals auf Deutsch, da mein English nicht gerade der
> Hammer ist.
>
> Ich versuche nun schon seit längerem, den Zitierstil "Historische
> Zeitung" in LyX zu integrieren, und bringe es einfach nicht auf die
> Reihe. Ich hatte ihn hier
> http://biblatex.dominik-wassenhoven.de/historische-zeitschrift.shtml
> heruntergeladen. Mit der Instruktion, die in diesem File enthalten ist,
> kann ich leider nicht all zu viel anfangen, da ich den entsprechenden
> Ordner einfach nicht finde. Weiss jemand von euch, wie ich das hinkriege?
>
> Beste Grüsse
>
> Sandro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
Weird behavior after Lyx 2.0 RC1 installation
Dear all, I have recently installed Lyx 2.0 RC1 for Windows using the
not-blundle installer. After that, I can see that Miktex is behaving
weirdly, as if it was not properly installed. Package manager tells me
a lot of packages I frequently use are not installed. Lyx compilation
(with both 1.6.9 and 2.0) works in some cases for packages reported as
not installed and doesn't work for packages reported as installed. I
have tried to compile a big document (my thesis) and it gave me plenty
of errors. I deleted the packages found in
"~User/AppData/Roaming/MiKTeX/2.8/tex/latex", rebuild MikTeX index and
it compiled perfectly. Now, I'm trying to compile my CV (which
compiled perfectly before 2.0 RC1) and the following error appears:
! Undefined control sequence.
\hyper@linkurl ...tionraw >>}\relax \Hy@colorlink
\@urlcolor #1\close@pdflin...
l.54 \begin{document}
The control sequence at the end of the top line
of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
! Undefined control sequence.
\close@pdflink ->\Hy@endcolorlink
\Hy@VerboseLinkStop \pdfendlink
l.54 \begin{document}
The control sequence at the end of the top line
of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
I have installed "url", "breakurl" and "hyperref" (reported as not
installed by package manager), which seems to be culprits (even if
there are no hyperlinks in my CV), to no avail.
Has anybody a clue about what is happening here? Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
Re: Problem integrating a bibtex-style
Dear Sandro. Every time you have an error of the kind <> it means you need to install package "name". Go
to your package manager and install "logreq".
Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Sandro Portmann
wrote:
> Sry folks, I forgot the attachment... Here it is :)
>
>
>
> Am 23.03.2011 um 11:29 schrieb Julio Rojas:
>
>> Dear Sandro, this should be pretty straightforward. First of all, have
>> you installed and used biblatex before? If not:
>> http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex
>>
>> After you have downloaded, installed and tested biblatex (check your
>> TeXLive distribution's package manager), you should download and
>> install your desired biblatex style (again, via TeXLive's package
>> manager). I believe the README has all the instructions needed AFTER
>> you have installed both, biblatex and the style. You should add the
>> lines:
>>
>> \usepackage[style=historische-zeitschrift]{biblatex}
>> \bibliography{}
>>
>> to your document's preamble, then add the bibliography in a note
>> environment (so it is only used by Lyx and not latex).
>>
>> Best of lucks.
>> -
>> Julio Rojas
>> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/3/22 Sandro Portmann :
>>> Hi guys
>>>
>>> I want to implement a new cite style into LyX 1.6.9 on my Mac OS X 10.6.6.
>>> It's the ¨Historische Zeitschrift¨ style, which I have downloaded here
>>> http://biblatex.dominik-wassenhoven.de/historische-zeitschrift.shtml. The
>>> README file, distributed on the page doesn't help me much, so I hope, that
>>> anybody here can help me.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Sandro
>>>
>>> Hallo zusammen
>>>
>>> Ich schreibs hier nochmals auf Deutsch, da mein English nicht gerade der
>>> Hammer ist.
>>>
>>> Ich versuche nun schon seit längerem, den Zitierstil "Historische Zeitung"
>>> in LyX zu integrieren, und bringe es einfach nicht auf die Reihe. Ich hatte
>>> ihn hier
>>> http://biblatex.dominik-wassenhoven.de/historische-zeitschrift.shtml
>>> heruntergeladen. Mit der Instruktion, die in diesem File enthalten ist,
>>> kann ich leider nicht all zu viel anfangen, da ich den entsprechenden
>>> Ordner einfach nicht finde. Weiss jemand von euch, wie ich das hinkriege?
>>>
>>> Beste Grüsse
>>>
>>> Sandro
>
>
>
Re: Default label???
On 03/22/2011 07:33 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Steve Litt > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm now labelling all 57 chapters of my new book, and what a PITA! >> >> First of all, there's no hotkey -- I have to do Insert->Label on every one. >> > At least for this you can easily define a custom shortcut. See the > docs (Customization and Functions, I think). > How about alt-i, l? (Keyboard-based menu access.) >> But even worse, the label defaults to the first three words, and often the >> first word is "The". Is there a way to have the label default to the first >> five words? >> > I have no idea, but this might be hardcoded. You have always the > option to change it in the sources and rebuild it for you needs. > Otherwise perhaps file a bug report. > Rainer's idea about this is OK, but it seems a lot of work for not much payoff. Richard
Re: LyX on xubuntu 10.10
On 23/03/2011 5:55 AM, Hellmut Weber wrote: Hi list, I'm using LyX 1.6.7 on xubuntu 10.10 and I'm as satisfied as for the roughly ten years I'm using LyX now. Actually I have a little problem: I like to have the path to the document at the end of my documents. So I've created a little python script giving me the end (because my file system tree is quite deep) of the path, accordingly I have defined an alias pdflatex="pdflatex -shell-escape" to permit the use of this script from within the latex source of my document. This doesn't work for lyx. I suppose lyx calls pdflatex using its absolute path. To find the place where this default is set I've been looking in ~/.lyx/preferences, /usr/share/lyx, ~/.config/Lyx, ~/.gconf, ~/.gconfig with no result. So, can somebody gice me a hint where the default paths for the converter calls are hidden? Your interpretation sounds correct. You can change the converter line in Tools > Settings > File Handling > Converters (look for LaTeX -> PDF (pdflatex)) but... I would suggest to use \jobname in ERT if possible instead of calling a python script for this. Similarly, I would like to use '.' as the default path for saving new lyx documents. Changing the corresponding setting in the menu tools>settings>paths>home (retranslated from my german version of lyx) I can change that location but the change is not remembered when I open lyx the next time. Any ideas on this? hmm, not sure. this might be a bug. TIA Happy LyXing Hellmut -- Julien
Re: tutorials / slides for seminars or workshops (was: 'Re: LyX Promotion')
On 2011-03-22, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Rob Oakes wrote: >> 4.) It seems that there are people willing to help promote/evangelize >> LyX, but I'm not sure we offer much in the way of promotional >> materials to help. Would it be worthwhile to create a limited number >> of tutorials for people, like Venom, who will be holding seminars or >> workshops? (I've also thought about teaching a design workshop through >> my local library, and these materials would help provide a >> curriculum.) > I will be holding a workshop on LyX to graduate types at my university > and I'm not very sure where from to begin. Some ready materials > (slides on the advantages of LyX/LaTeX over MS Word and the hord, step > by step tutorials for creating your first document in LyX, using > bibliography and fancier features) would be of enormous help. > > At the moment I plan to start with the 'Help > Documentation' in > preparing my tutorial. Perhaps some of you have already passed through > this experience and have some materials readily available? If so, > please post them here. There is already much material at http://wiki.lyx.org. Maybe a review and re-organization might improve its "impact factor". Günter
Re: Problem integrating a bibtex-style
Dear Julio
Thanks a lot for the help. Unfortunately, I'm getting an error message, when I
want LyX to put out a PDF (as you can see in the attachment). The desired
package is marked as installed, when I look in the TeX Live manager. Do you
have a solution for that problem?
Regards
Sandro
Am 23.03.2011 um 11:29 schrieb Julio Rojas:
> Dear Sandro, this should be pretty straightforward. First of all, have
> you installed and used biblatex before? If not:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex
>
> After you have downloaded, installed and tested biblatex (check your
> TeXLive distribution's package manager), you should download and
> install your desired biblatex style (again, via TeXLive's package
> manager). I believe the README has all the instructions needed AFTER
> you have installed both, biblatex and the style. You should add the
> lines:
>
> \usepackage[style=historische-zeitschrift]{biblatex}
> \bibliography{}
>
> to your document's preamble, then add the bibliography in a note
> environment (so it is only used by Lyx and not latex).
>
> Best of lucks.
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> 2011/3/22 Sandro Portmann :
>> Hi guys
>>
>> I want to implement a new cite style into LyX 1.6.9 on my Mac OS X 10.6.6.
>> It's the ¨Historische Zeitschrift¨ style, which I have downloaded here
>> http://biblatex.dominik-wassenhoven.de/historische-zeitschrift.shtml. The
>> README file, distributed on the page doesn't help me much, so I hope, that
>> anybody here can help me.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Sandro
>>
>> Hallo zusammen
>>
>> Ich schreibs hier nochmals auf Deutsch, da mein English nicht gerade der
>> Hammer ist.
>>
>> Ich versuche nun schon seit längerem, den Zitierstil "Historische Zeitung"
>> in LyX zu integrieren, und bringe es einfach nicht auf die Reihe. Ich hatte
>> ihn hier
>> http://biblatex.dominik-wassenhoven.de/historische-zeitschrift.shtml
>> heruntergeladen. Mit der Instruktion, die in diesem File enthalten ist, kann
>> ich leider nicht all zu viel anfangen, da ich den entsprechenden Ordner
>> einfach nicht finde. Weiss jemand von euch, wie ich das hinkriege?
>>
>> Beste Grüsse
>>
>> Sandro
Re: Problem integrating a bibtex-style
Dear Sandro, this should be pretty straightforward. First of all, have
you installed and used biblatex before? If not:
http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex
After you have downloaded, installed and tested biblatex (check your
TeXLive distribution's package manager), you should download and
install your desired biblatex style (again, via TeXLive's package
manager). I believe the README has all the instructions needed AFTER
you have installed both, biblatex and the style. You should add the
lines:
\usepackage[style=historische-zeitschrift]{biblatex}
\bibliography{}
to your document's preamble, then add the bibliography in a note
environment (so it is only used by Lyx and not latex).
Best of lucks.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
2011/3/22 Sandro Portmann :
> Hi guys
>
> I want to implement a new cite style into LyX 1.6.9 on my Mac OS X 10.6.6.
> It's the ¨Historische Zeitschrift¨ style, which I have downloaded here
> http://biblatex.dominik-wassenhoven.de/historische-zeitschrift.shtml. The
> README file, distributed on the page doesn't help me much, so I hope, that
> anybody here can help me.
>
> Best regards
>
> Sandro
>
> Hallo zusammen
>
> Ich schreibs hier nochmals auf Deutsch, da mein English nicht gerade der
> Hammer ist.
>
> Ich versuche nun schon seit längerem, den Zitierstil "Historische Zeitung" in
> LyX zu integrieren, und bringe es einfach nicht auf die Reihe. Ich hatte ihn
> hier http://biblatex.dominik-wassenhoven.de/historische-zeitschrift.shtml
> heruntergeladen. Mit der Instruktion, die in diesem File enthalten ist, kann
> ich leider nicht all zu viel anfangen, da ich den entsprechenden Ordner
> einfach nicht finde. Weiss jemand von euch, wie ich das hinkriege?
>
> Beste Grüsse
>
> Sandro
Re: LyX Promotion
Steve, I like your list of good things about LyX; but you have omitted what to me is the most significant: Try using Word to compile a long book with many illustrations, often with 3 graphics to a page. Word has a shocking reputation for using a master document with many child documents, particularly one with many graphics. There are many warnings that Word will crash and corrupt files. So be it - I used OpenOffice. Result: as the book got longer, the OpenOffice master crashed frequently. Every time a child document was added or modified, the master document took up to half an hour to update and was likely to crash in the process. At least OpenOffice never corrupted the files; but it became impractical to complete assembly of the book. I carried the same files over to LyX, converting each child document. Result: LyX has not crashed once and it assembles or updates the master document into a pdf, with all the graphics inserted in less than 30 seconds. I may have to negotiate with LyX on where I wish to place an image or what ERT is needed. But the worse that might happen is I get an error message. All through the operations, LyX remains rock steady. For long complex documents, LyX is the practical solution. Cheers, George Legge On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > If I were going to enumerate the good things about > LyX, it would be something like this: > > * It typesets better and more consistently than its non-TeX based > competitors. > * It deletes unintentional double spaces and double newlines. > * It always calculates references, TOC and indices correctly, unlike > others. > * The black on tan is readable and soothing to the eyes for long workdays. > * Its simple native format invites programmatic document creation and > editing. > * It's free software, which protects your documents from vendor lock-in. > * It's an incredibly fast authoring environment. >
Re: xetex/luatex issues
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Hellmut Weber wrote: > Hi Julien, > > Am 23.03.2011 00:13, schrieb Julien Rioux: >> I run Ubuntu 10.10 with texlive 2009 > So do I. > >> Open splash.lyx >> Set "Use non-tex fonts" > I wanteds to verify the situation you describe but I didn't find any > button / menu entry "Use non-tex fonts". > Where can you set this? > This is only present in 2.0 betas. Liviu > TIA > > Best regards > > Hellmut > > -- > Dr. Hellmut Weber m...@hellmutweber.de > Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 > D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 > please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq > -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail
LyX on xubuntu 10.10
Hi list, I'm using LyX 1.6.7 on xubuntu 10.10 and I'm as satisfied as for the roughly ten years I'm using LyX now. Actually I have a little problem: I like to have the path to the document at the end of my documents. So I've created a little python script giving me the end (because my file system tree is quite deep) of the path, accordingly I have defined an alias pdflatex="pdflatex -shell-escape" to permit the use of this script from within the latex source of my document. This doesn't work for lyx. I suppose lyx calls pdflatex using its absolute path. To find the place where this default is set I've been looking in ~/.lyx/preferences, /usr/share/lyx, ~/.config/Lyx, ~/.gconf, ~/.gconfig with no result. So, can somebody gice me a hint where the default paths for the converter calls are hidden? Similarly, I would like to use '.' as the default path for saving new lyx documents. Changing the corresponding setting in the menu >>tools >settings >paths >home (retranslated from my german version of lyx) I can change that location but the change is not remembered when I open lyx the next time. Any ideas on this? TIA Happy LyXing Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber m...@hellmutweber.de Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
Re: LyX Promotion
Rainer, I completely agree and this would be a very usefull document - but the > issue is not to provide an easy transition from Word to LyX, but to > enable an easy co-operation with Word or OO / LibreOffice users, in > the sense that: > Ah OK, I obviously misunderstood the basis of the thread, I thought it was to broaden the appeal/user base beyond the perceived Academic one (but I use it in consultancy). Graham
Re: LyX Promotion
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Graham Smith wrote: > One possible approach is to write an introduction to Lyx specifically aimed > at Word users. > This makes a lot of sense to me. Most of all we probably need an introduction for those coming from the world of Word (highest priority) and, perhaps, one for those with a heavy LaTeX background. (For the latter, we might simply recycle the existing Help > Tutorial > LyX for LaTeX users, but give it much better visibility on the lyx.org home page.) If you give it some thought, the two are essentially the only ones that make sense, because there aren't really other types of newcomers: you are either already familiar with Word, or with LaTeX; else you wouldn't be looking at LyX in the first place. Liviu > This has been done for R at > http://chartsgraphs.wordpress.com/learnr-toolkit/ where the tutorials assume > familiarity with Excel and demonstrate how things differ (or are the same) > in R. There have also been similar things done for the GIS program Manifold, > comparing it against the Industry standard products from ESRI. > > I had a couple of aborted attempts with Lyx, because, as a Word User, I just > couldn't get my head around certain concepts (the concept of compiling a > document probably being the main one). I then eventually came back to Lyx > via SWeave in R, which introduced me to Latex, and then Lyx fell into place > and I realised it gave me an easy interface to Latex for every day > documents. > > A Lyx equivilant of the R tutorials would have been a great help. > > Graham > > > > On 22 March 2011 15:51, Rob Oakes wrote: >> >> Dear Users and Developers, >> >> Thank you to both Pavel and Stefano for ollowing up with Google about why >> the GSoC application was turned down. Is there any way that I could help in >> that review? Stefano, will you be attending the IRC meeting to be held later >> today? I think it's very important that we understand why LyX was rejected >> as a mentoring organization, and I'd be willing to hep in any way necessary. >> >> While I have some ideas about why it may have happened, I think that Pavel >> hit the nail on the head. When I talk to people about LyX, they seem to >> think of it as a specialized academic writing tool. Basically, a program >> which helps professors and students write a thesis or articles. (To be even >> more narrow, it seems like many think it is for math and physics people to >> write a thesis or article.) Which is to say, a specialized program with an >> incredibly small user base and use. >> >> While that stereotype may be somewhat true (I don't think anyone would >> argue that many of the developers and users are within academics), it >> significantly understates LyX's appeal, especially if you consider the >> enhancements available in the upcoming version. From my own personal >> experience, I've found LyX to be the most capable pre-press/writing tool >> I've ever come across. If I were a publishing company or involved in the >> creation of any type of documentation, I would be looking at LyX very >> carefully. It's the only tool that I know that allows you to manage >> collaboration, typesetting the final output, and target both electronic and >> print from the same source. With the recent explosion of electronic >> publishing and eBooks, I think that makes it *highly* relevant. >> >> Yet, I'm not sure that the wider community appreciates that. (Hearing >> Google's rationale for rejecting the GSoC application will help somewhat in >> clarifying how LyX is perceived.) Which really brings me to the reason I'm >> writing. >> >> Would it be worth trying to promote LyX to people who might find it >> helpful? >> >> We've talked for a long time about writing a LyX book, which is an >> excellent and wonderful project. But what if we first tested those waters by >> tackling some smaller projects first? >> >> For example: >> >> 1.) I just learned about a new open design magazine this morning, called >> LibreGraphics magazine (http://libregraphicsmag.com/). The goal of the >> publication is to help designers find tools for their work. It seems like an >> article about using LyX for book design would be a natural fit for their >> target audience. >> >> 2.) In similar vein, the LibreGraphics meeting is also coming up. This >> year, it will be held in Montreal. LibreGraphics targets a similar >> demographic, and it seems like such a presentation would be a natural fit. >> Even better, they pay the travel expenses of presenters >> (http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2011/). Might anyone be interested in >> talking about using LyX to talk about book design, typography, or writing? >> >> 3.) It's been some time since Linux magazine or one of the other trade >> publications published a general purpose article on LyX. Might it be worth >> creating and submitting one? We might try and target Linux users magazine >> (http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/), ZdNet, or one of the large Linux blogs (like >> OMG!Ubuntu, h
Re: LyX Promotion
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Graham Smith wrote: > One possible approach is to write an introduction to Lyx specifically aimed > at Word users. > > This has been done for R at > http://chartsgraphs.wordpress.com/learnr-toolkit/ where the tutorials assume > familiarity with Excel and demonstrate how things differ (or are the same) > in R. There have also been similar things done for the GIS program Manifold, > comparing it against the Industry standard products from ESRI. > > I had a couple of aborted attempts with Lyx, because, as a Word User, I just > couldn't get my head around certain concepts (the concept of compiling a > document probably being the main one). I then eventually came back to Lyx > via SWeave in R, which introduced me to Latex, and then Lyx fell into place > and I realised it gave me an easy interface to Latex for every day > documents. > > A Lyx equivilant of the R tutorials would have been a great help. I completely agree and this would be a very usefull document - but the issue is not to provide an easy transition from Word to LyX, but to enable an easy co-operation with Word or OO / LibreOffice users, in the sense that: Main Document in LyX -> export to doc / odt (including comments and track changes) -> comment from Word users in document -> import into LyX -> editiong in LyX -> export to doc / odt (including comments and track changes) -> ... -> Finl editing in LyX So the Word user would not be confronted with LyX. But I think that this should be a separate topic. Cheers, Rainer > > Graham > > > > On 22 March 2011 15:51, Rob Oakes wrote: >> >> Dear Users and Developers, >> >> Thank you to both Pavel and Stefano for ollowing up with Google about why >> the GSoC application was turned down. Is there any way that I could help in >> that review? Stefano, will you be attending the IRC meeting to be held later >> today? I think it's very important that we understand why LyX was rejected >> as a mentoring organization, and I'd be willing to hep in any way necessary. >> >> While I have some ideas about why it may have happened, I think that Pavel >> hit the nail on the head. When I talk to people about LyX, they seem to >> think of it as a specialized academic writing tool. Basically, a program >> which helps professors and students write a thesis or articles. (To be even >> more narrow, it seems like many think it is for math and physics people to >> write a thesis or article.) Which is to say, a specialized program with an >> incredibly small user base and use. >> >> While that stereotype may be somewhat true (I don't think anyone would >> argue that many of the developers and users are within academics), it >> significantly understates LyX's appeal, especially if you consider the >> enhancements available in the upcoming version. From my own personal >> experience, I've found LyX to be the most capable pre-press/writing tool >> I've ever come across. If I were a publishing company or involved in the >> creation of any type of documentation, I would be looking at LyX very >> carefully. It's the only tool that I know that allows you to manage >> collaboration, typesetting the final output, and target both electronic and >> print from the same source. With the recent explosion of electronic >> publishing and eBooks, I think that makes it *highly* relevant. >> >> Yet, I'm not sure that the wider community appreciates that. (Hearing >> Google's rationale for rejecting the GSoC application will help somewhat in >> clarifying how LyX is perceived.) Which really brings me to the reason I'm >> writing. >> >> Would it be worth trying to promote LyX to people who might find it >> helpful? >> >> We've talked for a long time about writing a LyX book, which is an >> excellent and wonderful project. But what if we first tested those waters by >> tackling some smaller projects first? >> >> For example: >> >> 1.) I just learned about a new open design magazine this morning, called >> LibreGraphics magazine (http://libregraphicsmag.com/). The goal of the >> publication is to help designers find tools for their work. It seems like an >> article about using LyX for book design would be a natural fit for their >> target audience. >> >> 2.) In similar vein, the LibreGraphics meeting is also coming up. This >> year, it will be held in Montreal. LibreGraphics targets a similar >> demographic, and it seems like such a presentation would be a natural fit. >> Even better, they pay the travel expenses of presenters >> (http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2011/). Might anyone be interested in >> talking about using LyX to talk about book design, typography, or writing? >> >> 3.) It's been some time since Linux magazine or one of the other trade >> publications published a general purpose article on LyX. Might it be worth >> creating and submitting one? We might try and target Linux users magazine >> (http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/), ZdNet, or one of the large Linux blogs (like >> OMG!Ubuntu, http://www.omgub
Re: LyX Promotion
One possible approach is to write an introduction to Lyx specifically aimed at Word users. This has been done for R at http://chartsgraphs.wordpress.com/learnr-toolkit/ where the tutorials assume familiarity with Excel and demonstrate how things differ (or are the same) in R. There have also been similar things done for the GIS program Manifold, comparing it against the Industry standard products from ESRI. I had a couple of aborted attempts with Lyx, because, as a Word User, I just couldn't get my head around certain concepts (the concept of compiling a document probably being the main one). I then eventually came back to Lyx via SWeave in R, which introduced me to Latex, and then Lyx fell into place and I realised it gave me an easy interface to Latex for every day documents. A Lyx equivilant of the R tutorials would have been a great help. Graham On 22 March 2011 15:51, Rob Oakes wrote: > Dear Users and Developers, > > Thank you to both Pavel and Stefano for ollowing up with Google about why > the GSoC application was turned down. Is there any way that I could help in > that review? Stefano, will you be attending the IRC meeting to be held later > today? I think it's very important that we understand why LyX was rejected > as a mentoring organization, and I'd be willing to hep in any way necessary. > > While I have some ideas about why it may have happened, I think that Pavel > hit the nail on the head. When I talk to people about LyX, they seem to > think of it as a specialized academic writing tool. Basically, a program > which helps professors and students write a thesis or articles. (To be even > more narrow, it seems like many think it is for math and physics people to > write a thesis or article.) Which is to say, a specialized program with an > incredibly small user base and use. > > While that stereotype may be somewhat true (I don't think anyone would > argue that many of the developers and users are within academics), it > significantly understates LyX's appeal, especially if you consider the > enhancements available in the upcoming version. From my own personal > experience, I've found LyX to be the most capable pre-press/writing tool > I've ever come across. If I were a publishing company or involved in the > creation of any type of documentation, I would be looking at LyX very > carefully. It's the only tool that I know that allows you to manage > collaboration, typesetting the final output, and target both electronic and > print from the same source. With the recent explosion of electronic > publishing and eBooks, I think that makes it *highly* relevant. > > Yet, I'm not sure that the wider community appreciates that. (Hearing > Google's rationale for rejecting the GSoC application will help somewhat in > clarifying how LyX is perceived.) Which really brings me to the reason I'm > writing. > > Would it be worth trying to promote LyX to people who might find it > helpful? > > We've talked for a long time about writing a LyX book, which is an > excellent and wonderful project. But what if we first tested those waters by > tackling some smaller projects first? > > For example: > > 1.) I just learned about a new open design magazine this morning, called > LibreGraphics magazine (http://libregraphicsmag.com/). The goal of the > publication is to help designers find tools for their work. It seems like an > article about using LyX for book design would be a natural fit for their > target audience. > > 2.) In similar vein, the LibreGraphics meeting is also coming up. This > year, it will be held in Montreal. LibreGraphics targets a similar > demographic, and it seems like such a presentation would be a natural fit. > Even better, they pay the travel expenses of presenters ( > http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2011/). Might anyone be interested in > talking about using LyX to talk about book design, typography, or writing? > > 3.) It's been some time since Linux magazine or one of the other trade > publications published a general purpose article on LyX. Might it be worth > creating and submitting one? We might try and target Linux users magazine ( > http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/), ZdNet, or one of the large Linux blogs (like > OMG!Ubuntu, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/). > > 4.) It seems that there are people willing to help promote/evangelize LyX, > but I'm not sure we offer much in the way of promotional materials to help. > Would it be worthwhile to create a limited number of tutorials for people, > like Venom, who will be holding seminars or workshops? (I've also thought > about teaching a design workshop through my local library, and these > materials would help provide a curriculum.) > > The tutorials could address some of the finer points of using LyX that are > not covered in the manuals. For example, how do you collaborate using > version control? What is the process for creating custom, typeset > publications with LyX and LaTeX? We could publish cohesive examples and then > walk throu
Re: xetex/luatex issues
Hi Julien, Am 23.03.2011 00:13, schrieb Julien Rioux: > I run Ubuntu 10.10 with texlive 2009 So do I. > Open splash.lyx > Set "Use non-tex fonts" I wanteds to verify the situation you describe but I didn't find any button / menu entry "Use non-tex fonts". Where can you set this? TIA Best regards Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber m...@hellmutweber.de Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
Re: Default label???
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Steve Litt > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm now labelling all 57 chapters of my new book, and what a PITA! >> >> First of all, there's no hotkey -- I have to do Insert->Label on every one. >> > At least for this you can easily define a custom shortcut. See the > docs (Customization and Functions, I think). > > >> But even worse, the label defaults to the first three words, and often the >> first word is "The". Is there a way to have the label default to the first >> five words? >> > I have no idea, but this might be hardcoded. You have always the > option to change it in the sources and rebuild it for you needs. > Otherwise perhaps file a bug report. Yes - I would suggest to file a feature request, that the naming of the label is based on some variables ($W1 = first word, ...$W10) and some kind of regular expression? This would make customisation much easier. Rainer > > Cheers > Liviu > > >> Or, perhaps give us a way to highlight the entire title and have >> that govern the label? Right now highlighting is no different from putting >> the >> cursor at the start, except that highlighting increases the risk of erasing >> the highlighted text. >> >> I think that label insertion is common enough that it should be a fast >> process, and people's priorities differ enough that the default number of >> words should be changeable. >> >> SteveT >> >> Steve Litt >> Recession Relief Package >> http://www.recession-relief.US >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt >> >> > > > > -- > Do you know how to read? > http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm > http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader > Do you know how to write? > http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail > -- NEW GERMAN FAX NUMBER!!! Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Natural Sciences Building Office Suite 2039 Stellenbosch University Main Campus, Merriman Avenue Stellenbosch South Africa Cell: +27 - (0)83 9479 042 Fax: +27 - (0)86 516 2782 Fax: +49 - (0)321 2125 2244 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug Google: r.m.k...@gmail.com
Re: LyX Promotion
> 1) Compile Errors. Normal users aren't used to dealing with compile > errors and shouldn't be expected to fix them. Even I don't like > dealing with compile errors all that much. > 1a) Perhaps we could do some sort of bisect to determine where the > error is (either over the file itself or some fine-grained history). > 1b) Perhaps we could improve the latex export so that compile errors > only occur if the user uses ERT. Particularly with beamer, this isn't > always the case. This is an important point, and one should evaluate if it is feasible to go further into 'asking' LaTeX wheere the error is - it would definitley help the users to provide a better understandable error message *if* something fails. ERT are a different issue - if you are using ERTs, you should know what you are doing and out of the responsibility zone of LyX. But beamer should be refined. > > 2) Compatibility with Word. Typical users expect to be able to open > and save word documents. What I would expect / not expect from a word document which is exported from LyX is: 1) Have all the content (normally this is the case) 2) Not look like a LaTeX document - I want to use it to collaborate with word users, so the actual layout (margins, ...) are irrelevant for me. Sections should be using the style for header 1, subsections header 2, ... SO that it *looks* MsWordish and easy for the word user (which is not the case when it looks as a document created by LaTeX - start with the margins which look horrible in word but are brilliant in the final pdf). This refers to paragraph styles - but character styles should be exported as they are. So a mapping would be usefull: "Section -> header 1" , ... 2a) I understand that one wants to have sometime the possibility to export the LaTeX generated document - but that is a different story. 3) Contain the track changes from LyX 4) Contain the comments To go from there, I would expect that, when importing the word document I get back from my collaborators with track changes and comments, that 1) Track changes are imported 2) Comments are imported 3) Paragraph styles are ignored, apart from the "mapped" default styles (header 1-> Section) My reasoning is, that in most cases, an export is NOT done to see the final layout (for this I usually attach a pdf as well), but for editorial comments. Cheers, Rainer > > > -- > John C. McCabe-Dansted > -- NEW GERMAN FAX NUMBER!!! Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Natural Sciences Building Office Suite 2039 Stellenbosch University Main Campus, Merriman Avenue Stellenbosch South Africa Cell: +27 - (0)83 9479 042 Fax: +27 - (0)86 516 2782 Fax: +49 - (0)321 2125 2244 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug Google: r.m.k...@gmail.com
