Re: [M100] Hello! (John R. Hogerhuis)

[jonathan.y...@telia.com]

Hello,
This is probably off topic but the Psion devices meet the 'small computer that 
runs on cheap batteries' but the keyboard isn't as nice as a M100 and it is 
harder to read under some conditions.  I've been known to play with a 5mx
Jonathan
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  Totally understand, and I'll keep it to myself. 
 
 
 Thanks again, I was already pretty excited to find another "small computer 
that runs on cheap batteries", that's been my obsession for a long time, and 
then finding out there are a few ways to interface with my other favorite 
device has me pretty stoked. That and the fact that this thing does a serial 
console connection so easily, that's going to be a lot of fun too. Wondering 
how it took me so long to finally try one. 
 From: M100  on behalf of John R. Hogerhuis 

Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 12:57 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] Hello! (John R. Hogerhuis)
 
   
 
 
  
   
   
   

 On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 9:05 PM Roland Anderson 
 wrote:
 


 
  
Sorry again about all that, long story short my mail relay gave me a 
bounceback and I thought I had hit a bad address, but turns out it was just my 
awful excuse of a mail server being weird. Thank you again for sending me a 
copy, I really appreciate it. 
   
   
 Would it bother you if I upload it to the PalmDB archive site? It's a pretty 
unique piece of software, I'd hate for it to get lost somehow. 
  
  
   
 Roland
  
  
  
 

   
  
  
   
  
  
   No thank you :-) I have not granted any license to redistribute DLPilot.
  
  
   
  
  
   That said everyone who has hit me up about getting a copy in recent years 
has gotten one. I give out probably 2 copies per year. 
  
  
   
  
  
   -- John.
  
 

Re: [M100] Hello! (John R. Hogerhuis)

[Roland Anderson]

Totally understand, and I'll keep it to myself.

Thanks again, I was already pretty excited to find another "small computer that 
runs on cheap batteries", that's been my obsession for a long time, and then 
finding out there are a few ways to interface with my other favorite device has 
me pretty stoked. That and the fact that this thing does a serial console 
connection so easily, that's going to be a lot of fun too. Wondering how it 
took me so long to finally try one.

From: M100  on behalf of John R. Hogerhuis 

Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 12:57 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] Hello! (John R. Hogerhuis)



On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 9:05 PM Roland Anderson  
wrote:
Sorry again about all that, long story short my mail relay gave me a bounceback 
and I thought I had hit a bad address, but turns out it was just my awful 
excuse of a mail server being weird. Thank you again for sending me a copy, I 
really appreciate it.

Would it bother you if I upload it to the PalmDB archive site? It's a pretty 
unique piece of software, I'd hate for it to get lost somehow.

Roland

No thank you :-) I have not granted any license to redistribute DLPilot.

That said everyone who has hit me up about getting a copy in recent years has 
gotten one. I give out probably 2 copies per year.

-- John.

Re: [M100] Hello! (John R. Hogerhuis)

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 9:05 PM Roland Anderson
 wrote:

> Sorry again about all that, long story short my mail relay gave me a
> bounceback and I thought I had hit a bad address, but turns out it was just
> my awful excuse of a mail server being weird. Thank you again for sending
> me a copy, I really appreciate it.
>
> Would it bother you if I upload it to the PalmDB archive site? It's a
> pretty unique piece of software, I'd hate for it to get lost somehow.
>
> Roland
>

No thank you :-) I have not granted any license to redistribute DLPilot.

That said everyone who has hit me up about getting a copy in recent years
has gotten one. I give out probably 2 copies per year.

-- John.

Re: [M100] M100 Hello!

[Roland Anderson]

First off, I just fixed my list preferences so that I'll be able to reply 
correctly next time but these probably won't show up on the correct thread. 
Forgive my millenial inexperience with mailing lists.

Daryn, thank you! I did run across the DLPilot page, and I actually read yours 
as well the other night - was that your Tungsten W in the picture? Love the 
keyboards on those, I used a C for a long time. I'm hoping to hook mine to a 
Palm M100 personally, partly because I think it would be funny, but because 
I've got stacks of them lying around and they're kind of awful for actual use.

On that note, if anyone else would like a Palm at some point to use as storage, 
let me know. A few years ago I bought a hundred or more from eBay lots hoping 
to clean them up and get them into the hands of someone who would use them, but 
really all they're doing is taking up space the geckos in my garage would 
rather have for their parties.

Anyway, appreciate the reply and I'm excited to learn more about this thing, I 
can see this quickly becoming my next obsession. Nothing quite like an old 
portable with good community backing, and I'm impressed with how much is still 
out there for an oddball computer like this.

Re: [M100] Hello! (John R. Hogerhuis)

[Roland Anderson]

Sorry again about all that, long story short my mail relay gave me a bounceback 
and I thought I had hit a bad address, but turns out it was just my awful 
excuse of a mail server being weird. Thank you again for sending me a copy, I 
really appreciate it.

Would it bother you if I upload it to the PalmDB archive site? It's a pretty 
unique piece of software, I'd hate for it to get lost somehow.

Roland


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Today's Topics:

   1. M100 repairs (LCD, keyboard) (David Plass)
   2. Re: M100 repairs (LCD, keyboard) (Brad Grier)
   3. Hello! (Roland Anderson)
   4. Re: Hello! (Daryn Hanright)
   5. Re: Hello! (John R. Hogerhuis)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:09:24 -0400
From: David Plass 
To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
Subject: [M100] M100 repairs (LCD, keyboard)
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I couldn't resist a recent M100 on ebay listed as "not working". The main
issue was a dead contrast pot, which I have temporarily worked around and
ordered a hacky replacement.

The polarizing film is also very bubbly and no amount of smoothing made it
stay flat on the LCD. Is there a known replacement for the film?

Most importantly, I noticed about a half dozen non-functional keys. After
disassembly I discovered corrosion on their diodes. Upon closer
"inspection", said diodes disintegrated.

So my second question is: Is there a particular diode I should replace
them with? I have tons of 1N4148s, which look like a match (and
electrically drop about the same voltage), but I can't find a spec for
those diodes on the m100 schematics.

Thanks
-David
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 17:43:44 -0600
From: Brad Grier 
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] M100 repairs (LCD, keyboard)
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RE: the polarizing film -- Jeff Birt (on this list) suggested
https://3dlens.com/

I have some, just haven't got to my project that needs it yet :D and with
the onset of spring, that one may sit for a bit.

--Brad

On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 2:10?PM David Plass  wrote:

> I couldn't resist a recent M100 on ebay listed as "not working". The main
> issue was a dead contrast pot, which I have temporarily worked around and
> ordered a hacky replacement.
>
> The polarizing film is also very bubbly and no amount of smoothing made it
> stay flat on the LCD. Is there a known replacement for the film?
>
> Most importantly, I noticed about a half dozen non-functional keys. After
> disassembly I discovered corrosion on their diodes. Upon closer
> "inspection", said diodes disintegrated.
>
> So my second question is: Is there a particular diode I should replace
> them with? I have tons of 1N4148s, which look like a match (and
> electrically drop about the same voltage), but I can't find a spec for
> those diodes on the m100 schematics.
>
> Thanks
> -David
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 05:58:24 +
From: Roland Anderson 
To: "m100@lists.bitchin100.com" 
Subject: [M100] Hello!
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Hi, my name is Roland, figured I'd introduce myself. I'm 30 and live in Texas. 
By day I climb towers and run cable, and I spend the rest of my time hanging 
out with my wife and seven dogs while trying to fix the stacks of broken 
computers, radios, and cars I've accumulated in a huge garage. I've been 
eyeballing these T100's for years and finally got my hands on one at HamFest 
this week in the form of an 8201A.

I have a question for y'all - I am the world's hugest hoarder of PalmOS 
devices, and I would absolutely LO

Re: [M100] Hello!

[John R. Hogerhuis]

Welcome, Roland.

I'm still here, you just have a short track-down timeout ;-)

I just sent you a copy of the last (and unsupported) dlp.prc

-- John.

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Daryn Hanright]

Hey Roland

Welcome to the list.

Yup John Hogerhuis is on this list, the developer of DLPilot for Palms back
in the day.

Assume you had found this page?
http://bitchin100.com/dlpilot/DLPilot.html

Not sure if John is still selling it, but am sure he can update you.

I also was into the m100 <-> palm stuff back in the day. Hence my now very
dated website about it...
http://www.planetnz.com/palmheads/tandy.php

Cheers
Daryn


On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 5:58 PM Roland Anderson
 wrote:

> Hi, my name is Roland, figured I'd introduce myself. I'm 30 and live in
> Texas. By day I climb towers and run cable, and I spend the rest of my time
> hanging out with my wife and seven dogs while trying to fix the stacks of
> broken computers, radios, and cars I've accumulated in a huge garage. I've
> been eyeballing these T100's for years and finally got my hands on one at
> HamFest this week in the form of an 8201A.
>
> I have a question for y'all - I am the world's hugest hoarder of PalmOS
> devices, and I would absolutely LOVE to get my hands on a copy of DLPilot.
> I can't seem to track down the author and it seems like that was a project
> that might've lost interest about the time Palm handhelds became extinct.
> Would any of you know how I could get a copy?
>
> Thanks and nice to meet you guys, it's cool to see a community like this
> and I'm excited to get into the T100/derivative world.
>
> Roland KI5VCT
>

[M100] Hello!

[Roland Anderson]

Hi, my name is Roland, figured I'd introduce myself. I'm 30 and live in Texas. 
By day I climb towers and run cable, and I spend the rest of my time hanging 
out with my wife and seven dogs while trying to fix the stacks of broken 
computers, radios, and cars I've accumulated in a huge garage. I've been 
eyeballing these T100's for years and finally got my hands on one at HamFest 
this week in the form of an 8201A.

I have a question for y'all - I am the world's hugest hoarder of PalmOS 
devices, and I would absolutely LOVE to get my hands on a copy of DLPilot. I 
can't seem to track down the author and it seems like that was a project that 
might've lost interest about the time Palm handhelds became extinct. Would any 
of you know how I could get a copy?

Thanks and nice to meet you guys, it's cool to see a community like this and 
I'm excited to get into the T100/derivative world.

Roland KI5VCT

Re: [M100] Hello Model 100 friends!

[Jesse Lafleur]

Hello Gary,
I'm glad you like the design. I wanted to find a way to capture the "slab"
form factor of the M100 but alter it in ways that are better suited to
modularity.
*I anticipate having stock again in probably about 6-8 weeks.*
I may open up sales again *sooner *than that, once I have total certainty
on timelines when all my components will arrive in Canada.

Those units will be shipped after all "Founder's Edition" and "Kickstarter"
related orders have been completed and shipped. I am very fortunate to have
managed to find enough funds to get enough pieces to resume sales. These
kinds of things really only work in bulk, and I don't have the kind of
access to capital that can help me get one batch ahead of my orders, so
when I run out of stock a second time, it may be some time before I can
offer it again. Hard to convince anyone to lend you a quarter million
dollars ;)

I have made the case itself using domestic components (raw aluminum)
through local extruders and sheet metal fabricators, and I am producing a
few components using locally sourced PLA thermoplastics. The
project/product is truly international! There are of course modules,
boards, and components that have come from Asia and Europe as well.

While this first machine doesn't have a "custom" made computer (I am
providing Raspberry Pi computers which support dual HDMI output), the power
management board does feature a user programmable microcontroller which can
serve auxiliary uses like a sort of co-processor. It is powerful enough to
output composite or VGA video, but not an HDMI signal which would have made
it compatible with the LCD module I am including. Ultimately, I wanted
people to have the freedom to bring the single board computer they want,
making "my own" is something in the cards down the road, but I won't be in
any way limiting people to using my SBC, I always want people to be able to
use what they have.

-Jesse


On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 3:06 AM gary  wrote:

> Hello Jesse,
>
> I am very intrigued by the Ready 100 design.  I like youe whole concept of
> a modern equivalent to the TRS80 Model 100.
>
> When do you anticipate having stock available again on your website?
>
> Thanks, and kind regards,
>
>
> Gary Weber
> www.web8201.com
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Jesse Lafleur 
> Date: 4/11/21 4:32 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Cc: Model 100 Discussion 
> Subject: Re: [M100] Hello Model 100 friends!
>
> Hello Peter.
>
> This is a fair assessment. I really consider "my" Model 100 to be a Single
> Board Computer Expansion system. It is indeed designed to allow you to
> "bring your own" SBC and it uses USB connections to integrate everything
> together. People should see it as a platform, which I feel has a lot more
> capability and flexibility vs forcing people to use a board of my own
> design.
>
> You're right, my machine is a touch bigger as the enclosure was designed
> to accommodate a large assortment of internal components (almost like a
> tool kit) and with the amount of modularity I've put into the system, it
> results in something a little chunky, but no bigger of a 2D footprint than
> any 15" screen laptop. Side by side my unit does not look all that much
> bigger than the M100! If I had made my unit the same size, it would not be
> possible to load the devices I anticipate my users will want to put inside,
> there would just be no room the M100 was truly a marvel!
>
> I am not interested in locking people into specific SBCs so I have kept
> things very modular. Why lock people into a chipset? Why lock them into a
> board when you all might have something else in mind? (RISC V? Raspi?
> Rockpi? 4x4 x86 boards? etc...) You can fit USB dongles, storage, large
> batteries inside, and the rear allows for 12 ports + 4 antenna ports. The
> TRS80 M100 was closed, fixed, locked down and monolithic with minimal
> upgrade capability - typical for the times!
>
> I love the TRS80 MODEL 100 but I couldn't justify modifying my units just
> to have a more modern chip or screen under the hood. I am primarily a
> collector, so that kind of destructive change isn't my cup of tea. I wanted
> to build my dream computer, and a more modern take on the M100 resulted in
> this project.
>
> As you hinted at, I am anticipating many users installing FPGA style
> systems that could take advantage of the modern hardware modules I include
> with my design. I would love to see a TRS80 MODEL 100 core for perhaps the
> MiSTer FPGA system. (The MODEL I already has a core...)
>
> 
>
> I did have to address your comment "I'm going to stick to the real thing"
> - my quick answer is "why not both?"
>
> My longer 

Re: [M100] Hello Model 100 friends!

[gary]

Hello Jesse,I am very intrigued by the Ready 100 design.  I like youe whole 
concept of a modern equivalent to the TRS80 Model 100.When do you anticipate 
having stock available again on your website?Thanks, and kind regards,Gary 
Weberwww.web8201.com
 Original message From: Jesse Lafleur  
Date: 4/11/21  4:32 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: m...@bitchin100.com Cc: Model 100 
Discussion  Subject: Re: [M100] Hello Model 100 
friends! Hello Peter.This is a fair assessment. I really consider "my" Model 
100 to be a Single Board Computer Expansion system. It is indeed designed to 
allow you to "bring your own" SBC and it uses USB connections to integrate 
everything together. People should see it as a platform, which I feel has a lot 
more capability and flexibility vs forcing people to use a board of my own 
design. You're right, my machine is a touch bigger as the enclosure was 
designed to accommodate a large assortment of internal components (almost like 
a tool kit) and with the amount of modularity I've put into the system, it 
results in something a little chunky, but no bigger of a 2D footprint than any 
15" screen laptop. Side by side my unit does not look all that much bigger than 
the M100! If I had made my unit the same size, it would not be possible to load 
the devices I anticipate my users will want to put inside, there would just be 
no room the M100 was truly a marvel!I am not interested in locking people into 
specific SBCs so I have kept things very modular. Why lock people into a 
chipset? Why lock them into a board when you all might have something else in 
mind? (RISC V? Raspi? Rockpi? 4x4 x86 boards? etc...) You can fit USB dongles, 
storage, large batteries inside, and the rear allows for 12 ports + 4 antenna 
ports. The TRS80 M100 was closed, fixed, locked down and monolithic with 
minimal upgrade capability - typical for the times!I love the TRS80 MODEL 100 
but I couldn't justify modifying my units just to have a more modern chip or 
screen under the hood. I am primarily a collector, so that kind of destructive 
change isn't my cup of tea. I wanted to build my dream computer, and a more 
modern take on the M100 resulted in this project.As you hinted at, I am 
anticipating many users installing FPGA style systems that could take advantage 
of the modern hardware modules I include with my design. I would love to see a 
TRS80 MODEL 100 core for perhaps the MiSTer FPGA system. (The MODEL I already 
has a core...)I did have to address your comment "I'm 
going to stick to the real thing" - my quick answer is "why not both?"My longer 
answer:Ultimately as cool as the TRS80 MODEL 100 is, it is a machine that 
remains best suited for computing needs of the 1980s. I love this form factor, 
and I wanted a computer in this style that could handle my contemporary 
computing needs. No upgrade ROM for the TRS80 M100 could ever accommodate that. 
The M100 still has a lot of use in my life, but it cannot replace my laptop - 
my model 100 can and has.I load Linux, Windows... it's a fully modern machine. 
I doubt any of you are using your TRS80 for all your computing needs no matter 
how often you use it, unless you literally limit yourselves to command line 
computing only, and the limitations of the M100s screen and compatibility with 
modern terminals is frustrating at best. The M100 was never designed to be used 
beyond as a "micro executive work station" and although journalists (and 
obviously all of you!) found a use for it - the use cases are relatively 
limited - and this comes from someone who uses an Apple II to check his email 
every day.I wanted something designed for computing specialists or people who 
need a lot of input/output. So while I have indeed "glommed the name" and form 
factor of the M100, my own design takes a new direction and brings the 
slab-laptop into the 21st century - with a lot of love and respect and 
admiration for what came before. The LCD serves best as a secondary touch bar 
(think apple laptop) for a large screen at home or at the office (or a portable 
screen!) though it is quite usable as a primary screen while on the go.So all I 
can say is "Why not both?" ;)--I also have a Zenith laptop that is 
a clone of the Tandy 600. Are you guys keen on that system as well?Thank you 
for informing me about the REX. This is totally new to me, and I will 
definitely pick one up!Virtual T has been a constant companion on my own system 
and looks great while using the LCD that comes with my MODEL 100. Its a great 
way to quickly test some BASIC code before transferring it over serial port. I 
love connecting the two via rs232 connection, makes me feel all warm and 
fuzzy.I have a very big surprise for this user group when the time is right, I 
can't divulge any details now but it will definitely stir some interest...On 
Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 6:44 

Re: [M100] Hello Model 100 friends!

[Jesse Lafleur]

 SBC in that runs Virtual T, then
> modifying VirtualT to take advantage of the unit's contemporary  modules.
>
> I'll stick to the real thing with Steve's REX.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 17:34:00 -0400
>> From: Jesse Lafleur 
>> To: m...@bitchin100.com
>> Subject: [M100] Hello Model 100 friends!
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> camhyxt1wqeeixd9+6xjjnadvrjg6wpujh+05dr1wsyhxead...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> I found my first TRS80 Model 100 about 5 years ago and never stopped
>> playing with it. I now own many accessories, two units and perhaps loved
>> the unit so much, I made my own...
>>
>> https://ready100.com
>>
>> I'm not here to sell anything (I'm actually sold out right now!) but I am
>> here to meet this wonderful usergroup to talk to you about RadioShack and
>> READY! my spiritual successor to the TRS80 M100.
>>
>> I am happy to have finally found you all and I look forward to chatting!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> *-Jesse Lafleur*
>> *READY!*
>>
>>

Re: [M100] Hello Model 100 friends!

[Peter Noeth]

Someone on the list discovered this a few months ago. It is not a computer
per se, just a packaged keyboard and display with modules to be connected
to a SBC (Single Board Computer) of ones own design. Bigger than a Model
100/102/200, and unless the SBC one puts in there is Model 100 compatible,
won't run any of the Model 100 software. Just glomming onto the Model 100
name.

Might be a candidate for putting a SBC in that runs Virtual T, then
modifying VirtualT to take advantage of the unit's contemporary  modules.

I'll stick to the real thing with Steve's REX.

Regards,

Peter

>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 17:34:00 -0400
> From: Jesse Lafleur 
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Subject: [M100] Hello Model 100 friends!
> Message-ID:
> <
> camhyxt1wqeeixd9+6xjjnadvrjg6wpujh+05dr1wsyhxead...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I found my first TRS80 Model 100 about 5 years ago and never stopped
> playing with it. I now own many accessories, two units and perhaps loved
> the unit so much, I made my own...
>
> https://ready100.com
>
> I'm not here to sell anything (I'm actually sold out right now!) but I am
> here to meet this wonderful usergroup to talk to you about RadioShack and
> READY! my spiritual successor to the TRS80 M100.
>
> I am happy to have finally found you all and I look forward to chatting!
>
> Sincerely,
> *-Jesse Lafleur*
> *READY!*
>
>

Re: [M100] Hello Model 100 friends!

[John R. Hogerhuis]

Welcome to the list Jesse :-)

We've been geeking out about the ideal "model 100 replacement" for decades
here... glad to see someone doing it!

And when you are ready to sell anything, you're welcome to do so here. No
problem.

-- John.

[M100] Hello Model 100 friends!

[Jesse Lafleur]

I found my first TRS80 Model 100 about 5 years ago and never stopped
playing with it. I now own many accessories, two units and perhaps loved
the unit so much, I made my own...

https://ready100.com

I'm not here to sell anything (I'm actually sold out right now!) but I am
here to meet this wonderful usergroup to talk to you about RadioShack and
READY! my spiritual successor to the TRS80 M100.

I am happy to have finally found you all and I look forward to chatting!

Sincerely,
*-Jesse Lafleur*
*READY!*

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Brian K. White]

On 6/4/20 6:04 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:



On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:49 PM Brian K. White > wrote:


On 6/4/20 4:32 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:

I have posted links 3 such cables many times.
And an ideal usb adapter to screw right on to it.

http://tandy.wiki/Model_100_102_200_600_Serial_Cable

Any of those "ideal" 3 cables is exactly the fully wired all in one
piece cable.

For the usb, I personally like to keep that separate because it's
useful
for other stuff on it's own.


Thanks.

I would suggest that the thin hood male-male gender changer should be 
kept as a separate piece because then the cable itself is more durable. 
No pins to break on the main cable.


If a pin bends/breaks on the gender changer (it has happened to me) I 
just throw away the gender changer.


The  cables I use are the old Belkin serial laplink which has db-9 and 
db-25 female both on both ends of the cable. Never had any failure. But 
they are not on the market any more. That is my ideal.


If building from scratch I would just put the USB-Serial adapter into 
the cable.


But separate works too.

You and I will mix and match parts and know what makes sense but a lot 
of users don't get into the details.


-- John.


Apparently being forced to stay home with nothing to do for months on 
end... is still not enough for me to get around to creating a few little 
graphic diagrams to replace my cryptic notation to show how each cable 
is wired exactly.


But the info is actually there. Basically, they show how the cable 
deviates from the platonic ideal rs232, by signal name, leaving pin 
numbers and the physical locations of those pin numbers on male vs 
female, 9 vs 25 pin, to get from standard references.


--
bkw

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Ron Lauzon]

My understanding is that the NADSbox was superceded by dlplus and later 
LaddieAlpha.

I created a recipe and software to use a Raspberry Pi 0, battery and display to 
create something similar to a NADSbox (i.e. you just hook it up and it works 
like a TPDD).  https://github.com/rlauzon54/pi-tpdd

But you can run LaddieAlpha on your own PC or mComm on your phone/tablet to do 
the same thing.
-- 
Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/

TRS-80 Pocket Computer 2 - TRS-80 Pocket Computer 4 - TRS-80 Model 100/102 - 
Tandy 1100FD - Tandy 1400LT - Commodore 64 - TRS-80 Model 4P
RC2014 (Mini and Pro) - Altair-Duino with TI Silent 700 - VT320 
terminal/Raspberry Pi 0
Some people like to work on old cars.  But old computers are cheaper and don't 
require a big garage.



Jun 4, 2020, 14:54 by copypeng...@zoho.com:

>
> …and a bunch of questions!!
>
>
>
>
>
> New M100 owner here, having just acquired one in pretty good condition, and 
> (seemingly) fully working, from eBay.>  
>
>
>
>
>
> I really do love this laptop! Wonderful keyboard, elegant and simple, 
> functional and yet not stuffed with nonsense I have no need for. And I have 
> to say, I learnt everything (long-since forgotten now) on a TRS-80 Model 1, a 
> couple of whole generations ago, so the M100 feels very familiar.
>
>
>
>
>
> But, here’s the thing: It’s so good to use, I want to put it to use, but that 
> means some way of moving files off it, preferably to a 2017-vintage iMac, or 
> possibly a Windows 10 workstation. But how?
>
>
>
>
>
> I’d have bought a NADSbox and done it via an SD card, which seems the best 
> way, but there aren’t any to buy, of course. All the talk of null modems and 
> terminal commands are a mystery to me, not least because I have no starting 
> point in what I’m looking for or how to use it.
>
>
>
>
>
> I have ordered an Android TV Box TPDD Server from arcadeshopper.com because 
> it looked like it might help, but that’s only because it was pictured 
> connected to an M100!
>
>
>
>
>
> I write a ton of reports and proposals, and the M100 keyboard is way better 
> than anything I have to type on otherwise! I also plan to (re)learn BASIC and 
> write some of my own software for it, and I’d like to have somewhere to load 
> from/save to.
>
>
>
>
>
> So, the questions are:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, firstly, does anyone have a NADSbox in working condition they don’t 
> want?
>
>
>
>
>
> No? I thought not. Well, then… deep breath and speaking as a newbie, what do 
> I need, where from, and how do I get it to work?!
>
>
>
>
>
> By the way, when I bought the M100, I had no idea there was still a thriving 
> community of users, let alone a good, old-fashioned mailing list! I am really 
> impressed!!! And the 100 is really cool too!
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>

[M100] Hello......!

[The CopyPenguin]

…and a bunch of questions!!



New M100 owner here, having just acquired one in pretty good condition, and 
(seemingly) fully working, from eBay. 



I really do love this laptop! Wonderful keyboard, elegant and simple, 
functional and yet not stuffed with nonsense I have no need for. And I have to 
say, I learnt everything (long-since forgotten now) on a TRS-80 Model 1, a 
couple of whole generations ago, so the M100 feels very familiar.



But, here’s the thing: It’s so good to use, I want to put it to use, but that 
means some way of moving files off it, preferably to a 2017-vintage iMac, or 
possibly a Windows 10 workstation. But how?



I’d have bought a NADSbox and done it via an SD card, which seems the best way, 
but there aren’t any to buy, of course. All the talk of null modems and 
terminal commands are a mystery to me, not least because I have no starting 
point in what I’m looking for or how to use it.



I have ordered an Android TV Box TPDD Server from arcadeshopper.com because it 
looked like it might help, but that’s only because it was pictured connected to 
an M100!



I write a ton of reports and proposals, and the M100 keyboard is way better 
than anything I have to type on otherwise! I also plan to (re)learn BASIC and 
write some of my own software for it, and I’d like to have somewhere to load 
from/save to.



So, the questions are:



Well, firstly, does anyone have a NADSbox in working condition they don’t want?



No? I thought not. Well, then… deep breath and speaking as a newbie, what do I 
need, where from, and how do I get it to work?!



By the way, when I bought the M100, I had no idea there was still a thriving 
community of users, let alone a good, old-fashioned mailing list! I am really 
impressed!!! And the 100 is really cool too!



Thanks in advance,

Andy

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:49 PM Brian K. White  wrote:

> On 6/4/20 4:32 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>
> I have posted links 3 such cables many times.
> And an ideal usb adapter to screw right on to it.
>
> http://tandy.wiki/Model_100_102_200_600_Serial_Cable
>
> Any of those "ideal" 3 cables is exactly the fully wired all in one
> piece cable.
>
> For the usb, I personally like to keep that separate because it's useful
> for other stuff on it's own.
>
>
Thanks.

I would suggest that the thin hood male-male gender changer should be kept
as a separate piece because then the cable itself is more durable. No pins
to break on the main cable.

If a pin bends/breaks on the gender changer (it has happened to me) I just
throw away the gender changer.

The  cables I use are the old Belkin serial laplink which has db-9 and
db-25 female both on both ends of the cable. Never had any failure. But
they are not on the market any more. That is my ideal.

If building from scratch I would just put the USB-Serial adapter into the
cable.

But separate works too.

You and I will mix and match parts and know what makes sense but a lot of
users don't get into the details.

-- John.

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Brian K. White]

On 6/4/20 4:32 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:

The Android box is  cool.

What would also be nice to see on the market is simply a proper cable 
kit, full null to db25, the thin hood gender changer either with a FTDI 
USB serial adapter built in to the cable or that can be connected to the 
cable.


Software could be separate with just instructions to download

That would get people ramped up cheaply and quickly.

All the stuff is out there one way or another but new users get 
overwhelmed.


-- John.


I have posted links 3 such cables many times.
And an ideal usb adapter to screw right on to it.

http://tandy.wiki/Model_100_102_200_600_Serial_Cable

Any of those "ideal" 3 cables is exactly the fully wired all in one 
piece cable.


For the usb, I personally like to keep that separate because it's useful 
for other stuff on it's own.


--
bkw

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Gregory McGill]

You build them and I'll sell em :) lmk

Greg

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:32 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> The Android box is  cool.
>
> What would also be nice to see on the market is simply a proper cable kit,
> full null to db25, the thin hood gender changer either with a FTDI USB
> serial adapter built in to the cable or that can be connected to the cable.
>
> Software could be separate with just instructions to download
>
> That would get people ramped up cheaply and quickly.
>
> All the stuff is out there one way or another but new users get
> overwhelmed.
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Gregory McGill]

the TPDD server is basically a NADS box emulation on android.. You can then
ftp the files to/from a pc if you load a ftp server/client on it OR just
pull the sdcard and read it on your pc.. it runs MCOMM which is available
for windows also but since you have a mac you can run laddialpha and get
the same functionality with a rs232 port and a cable.  I provide both with
the android box, you could just move that cable on over to a usb port on
your mac, and run the software.

Greg
arcadeshopper.com



On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:54 AM The CopyPenguin 
wrote:

> …and a bunch of questions!!
>
>
> New M100 owner here, having just acquired one in pretty good condition,
> and (seemingly) fully working, from eBay.
>
>
> I really do love this laptop! Wonderful keyboard, elegant and simple,
> functional and yet not stuffed with nonsense I have no need for. And I have
> to say, I learnt everything (long-since forgotten now) on a TRS-80 Model 1,
> a couple of whole generations ago, so the M100 feels very familiar.
>
>
> But, here’s the thing: It’s so good to use, I want to put it to use, but
> that means some way of moving files off it, preferably to a 2017-vintage
> iMac, or possibly a Windows 10 workstation. But how?
>
>
> I’d have bought a NADSbox and done it via an SD card, which seems the best
> way, but there aren’t any to buy, of course. All the talk of null modems
> and terminal commands are a mystery to me, not least because I have no
> starting point in what I’m looking for or how to use it.
>
>
> I have ordered an Android TV Box TPDD Server from arcadeshopper.com
> because it looked like it might help, but that’s only because it was
> pictured connected to an M100!
>
>
> I write a ton of reports and proposals, and the M100 keyboard is way
> better than anything I have to type on otherwise! I also plan to (re)learn
> BASIC and write some of my own software for it, and I’d like to have
> somewhere to load from/save to.
>
>
> So, the questions are:
>
>
> Well, firstly, does anyone have a NADSbox in working condition they don’t
> want?
>
>
> No? I thought not. Well, then… deep breath and speaking as a newbie, what
> do I need, where from, and how do I get it to work?!
>
>
> By the way, when I bought the M100, I had no idea there was still a
> thriving community of users, let alone a good, old-fashioned mailing list!
> I am really impressed!!! And the 100 is really cool too!
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andy
>
>
>

Re: [M100] Hello......!

[Kevin Becker]

Yeah, dlplus or LaddieAlpha will let you transfer files to/from your PC
or Mac without any SD card go between.  I'd suggest getting a REX to
allow you to (among other things) easily have TS-DOS in ROM to make
things as easy as possible.

http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=LaddieConhttps://github.com/bkw777/dlplushttp://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rex


On Thu, 2020-06-04 at 21:26 +0200, Ron Lauzon wrote:
> My understanding is that the NADSbox was superceded by dlplus and
> later LaddieAlpha.
> 
> I created a recipe and software to use a Raspberry Pi 0, battery and
> display to create something similar to a NADSbox (i.e. you just hook
> it up and it works like a TPDD).  
> https://github.com/rlauzon54/pi-tpdd
> 
> But you can run LaddieAlpha on your own PC or mComm on your
> phone/tablet to do the same thing.
> -- 
> Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/
> 
> TRS-80 Pocket Computer 2 - TRS-80 Pocket Computer 4 - TRS-80 Model
> 100/102 - Tandy 1100FD - Tandy 1400LT - Commodore 64 - TRS-80 Model
> 4P
> RC2014 (Mini and Pro) - Altair-Duino with TI Silent 700 - VT320
> terminal/Raspberry Pi 0
> Some people like to work on old cars.  But old computers are cheaper
> and don't require a big garage.
> 
> 
> 
> Jun 4, 2020, 14:54 by copypeng...@zoho.com:
> > …and a bunch of questions!!
> > 
> > New M100 owner here, having just acquired one in pretty good
> > condition, and (seemingly) fully working, from eBay. 
> > 
> > I really do love this laptop! Wonderful keyboard, elegant and
> > simple, functional and yet not stuffed with nonsense I have no need
> > for. And I have to say, I learnt everything (long-since forgotten
> > now) on a TRS-80 Model 1, a couple of whole generations ago, so the
> > M100 feels very familiar.
> > 
> > But, here’s the thing: It’s so good to use, I want to put it to
> > use, but that means some way of moving files off it, preferably to
> > a 2017-vintage iMac, or possibly a Windows 10 workstation. But how?
> > 
> > I’d have bought a NADSbox and done it via an SD card, which seems
> > the best way, but there aren’t any to buy, of course. All the talk
> > of null modems and terminal commands are a mystery to me, not least
> > because I have no starting point in what I’m looking for or how to
> > use it.
> > 
> > I have ordered an Android TV Box TPDD Server from arcadeshopper.com
> > because it looked like it might help, but that’s only because it
> > was pictured connected to an M100!
> > 
> > I write a ton of reports and proposals, and the M100 keyboard is
> > way better than anything I have to type on otherwise! I also plan
> > to (re)learn BASIC and write some of my own software for it, and
> > I’d like to have somewhere to load from/save to.
> > 
> > So, the questions are:
> > 
> > Well, firstly, does anyone have a NADSbox in working condition they
> > don’t want?
> > 
> > No? I thought not. Well, then… deep breath and speaking as a
> > newbie, what do I need, where from, and how do I get it to work?!
> > 
> > By the way, when I bought the M100, I had no idea there was still a
> > thriving community of users, let alone a good, old-fashioned
> > mailing list! I am really impressed!!! And the 100 is really cool
> > too!
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Andy
> > 
> 
>   
> 

Re: [M100] Hello, and REX question

[Dan Higdon]

If I get anything working, I will definitely be bragging about it here. :)

A sequencer feels like it's going to need some assembly language for the
timer callback. I'm passably comfortable with 8080 assembly language, but
I'm still working out the development toolchain. BYTEIT.BA is a great
little assembler, but it's SO slow. To date, I've only put together a BASIC
callable routine that will uppercase or lowercase a string in-place.

I suspect I'll need to resort to cross-platform tools and VirtualT for any
more serious coding.

 On Fri, 10 May 2019 22:49:22 -0400 Michael Brant 
wrote:

> Very curious about your synth project.  When you get it going, an update
> would be great
>

Re: [M100] Hello, and REX question

[Michael Brant]

Very curious about your synth project.  When you get it going, an update
would be great

On Fri, May 10, 2019, 6:07 PM Stephen Adolph  wrote:

> REX does not use any IO ports.  Good luck with your project.
> Steve
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 4:51 PM Dan Higdon  wrote:
>
>> Hello all, I'm a new M102 owner (the last two months). I've been having a
>> lot of fun messing around with my new little friend. I just recently
>> purchased a REX chip for it, and I have a question about how the REX
>> interacts with the system bus.
>>
>> Specifically, does it use any of the expansion i/o port addresses. and if
>> so, which ones?
>>
>> I ask because I'm considering breadboarding the simple parallel
>> input/output circuits in that "inside the model 100" book (probably not the
>> actual title, but I'm not near my pdf of that book right now.). I have it
>> in mind to generate 8 trigger/gate signals to control some analog
>> synthesizer modules, and I don't want to accidentally corrupt data in the
>> REX by outing values to a port that's being used for something else. (I
>> realize the ModelT's performance may not be up to precision drum machine
>> standards :), but these sorts of projects are fun for me.)
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any details,
>> Dan Higdon
>>
>

Re: [M100] Hello, and REX question

[Stephen Adolph]

REX does not use any IO ports.  Good luck with your project.
Steve

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 4:51 PM Dan Higdon  wrote:

> Hello all, I'm a new M102 owner (the last two months). I've been having a
> lot of fun messing around with my new little friend. I just recently
> purchased a REX chip for it, and I have a question about how the REX
> interacts with the system bus.
>
> Specifically, does it use any of the expansion i/o port addresses. and if
> so, which ones?
>
> I ask because I'm considering breadboarding the simple parallel
> input/output circuits in that "inside the model 100" book (probably not the
> actual title, but I'm not near my pdf of that book right now.). I have it
> in mind to generate 8 trigger/gate signals to control some analog
> synthesizer modules, and I don't want to accidentally corrupt data in the
> REX by outing values to a port that's being used for something else. (I
> realize the ModelT's performance may not be up to precision drum machine
> standards :), but these sorts of projects are fun for me.)
>
> Thanks in advance for any details,
> Dan Higdon
>

[M100] Hello, and REX question

[Dan Higdon]

Hello all, I'm a new M102 owner (the last two months). I've been having a
lot of fun messing around with my new little friend. I just recently
purchased a REX chip for it, and I have a question about how the REX
interacts with the system bus.

Specifically, does it use any of the expansion i/o port addresses. and if
so, which ones?

I ask because I'm considering breadboarding the simple parallel
input/output circuits in that "inside the model 100" book (probably not the
actual title, but I'm not near my pdf of that book right now.). I have it
in mind to generate 8 trigger/gate signals to control some analog
synthesizer modules, and I don't want to accidentally corrupt data in the
REX by outing values to a port that's being used for something else. (I
realize the ModelT's performance may not be up to precision drum machine
standards :), but these sorts of projects are fun for me.)

Thanks in advance for any details,
Dan Higdon

Re: [M100] Hello and a TPDD Question

[Lurch]

Gordon, that would be terrific.
I know Duane is about to drop one in the post, but although not knowing 
where it is coming from (OS I assume) it sounds like its going to take a 
looong time to get here.


 - Jase
lu...@dsotp.net



-- Original Message --
From: "gotoole" <goto...@tpg.com.au>
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Sent: 4/12/2017 4:43:34 PM
Subject: Re: [M100] Hello and a TPDD Question

I am also located in Canberra and can help you out with a disk if 
required


Regards

Gordon



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message 
From: Lurch <lu...@darksideofthepants.net>
Date: 2/12/17 8:59 pm (GMT+10:00)
To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
Subject: [M100] Hello and a TPDD Question

Firstly - G'Day from Canberra.

I've recently added a beautiful old M102 to my collection. Complete 
with a matching printer and a TPDD. However (I'm assuming at least) 
because the machine was off for so long, the memory has reset itself 
back to original and wiped the TPDD utility.
I also get the impression that the required Disk to reload it can only 
be duplicated from another copy, on a machine with a TPDD?

(Mines the first model, by the way)

Cheers,
Jase.

Re: [M100] Hello and a TPDD Question

[gotoole]

I am also located in Canberra and can help you out with a disk if required 
Regards
Gordon 


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Lurch <lu...@darksideofthepants.net> 
Date: 2/12/17  8:59 pm  (GMT+10:00) To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Subject: 
[M100] Hello and a TPDD Question 
Firstly - G'Day from Canberra.

I've recently added a beautiful old M102 to my collection. Complete with a 
matching printer and a TPDD. However (I'm assuming at least) because the 
machine was off for so long, the memory has reset itself back to original and 
wiped the TPDD utility. 
I also get the impression that the required Disk to reload it can only be 
duplicated from another copy, on a machine with a TPDD? 
(Mines the first model, by the way)

Cheers,
Jase. 

[M100] Hello and a TPDD Question

[Lurch]

Firstly - G'Day from Canberra.

I've recently added a beautiful old M102 to my collection. Complete with a 
matching printer and a TPDD. However (I'm assuming at least) because the 
machine was off for so long, the memory has reset itself back to original and 
wiped the TPDD utility. 
I also get the impression that the required Disk to reload it can only be 
duplicated from another copy, on a machine with a TPDD? 
(Mines the first model, by the way)

Cheers,
Jase. 

[M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Roger Mullins]

Definitely good to be back. :-) As to Jeff's question below... I've been
pondering the M100's usability for ham stuff, myself.  Besides the really
cool log program that brought me back here in the first place I've also
seen some guys around the web doing some pretty cool stuff.

This guy over at the retrobattlestations subreddit hooked up an M100 to a
Kantronics TNC and used it as a terminal for packet stuff:

https://www.reddit.com/r/retrobattlestations/comments/1t4eet/trs80_model_100_packet_radio/

I'm mainly interested right now in getting up and running on PSK31.  Seems
to be a lot of traffic around there.  I don't know of any way you could use
a Model T for that, though, although if there are options out there I'm
definitely open to the possibility.  I'm also interested in RTTY and I
think there might be ways to do that natively with a Model T, I just
haven't gotten to do the research yet.  I know the C64 could do it and it
didn't even have the built in telecom features the M100 has.

As to why I'd be interested in hauling my M100 out and about for logging,
other than 'because I can,' there's the battery life angle and the fact
that my laptop would be dead within an hour in the field with no AC.  There
are phone apps but I really don't like touchscreen typing.  I'm wanting to
get into low-power CW (morse code) stuff, so the actual radio and antenna
won't take up much space.

I ordered the null modem cable from Monoprice that someone listed the other
day on the M100 FaceBook group and as soon as that comes I'm going to start
transferring some of the awesome stuff from the archives onto mine to see
how it holds up.

Roger / KM4WVE

PS - Sorry for not replying back sooner; I accidentally subscribed to the
digest version of the list and just got that switched so I'll actually see
messages as they come through.




On 1/11/17 11:03 AM, Jeff Gonzales wrote:
>* anyone doing any digital stuff?  what's all the rage these days?  what
*>* about managing to still incorporate an m100?*

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Jeff Gonzales]

Digital ham radio modes.

On Jan 11, 2017 9:02 PM, "Ken Pettit"  wrote:

> Hey Jeff,
>
> What do yo umean by "digital stuff"?  I do digital stuff every day
> (designing a 14nm ASIC).  With 7 mm^2 of unused die area, I keep thinking
> how cool it would be to shove a full M100 implementation in there.  :)
>
> Ken
>
> On 1/11/17 11:03 AM, Jeff Gonzales wrote:
>
> anyone doing any digital stuff?  what's all the rage these days?  what
> about managing to still incorporate an m100?
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
>
>> Many of us go back and forth, Josh: Just wait awhile :-)
>>
>> Phil W7OX
>>
>> On 1/10/17 3:14 PM, Josh Malone wrote:
>>
>> I guess i went the other other way - cleared out my ham gear and piled my
>> desk full of vintage computers. It was fun but I guess I lost interest.
>>
>> -Josh
>> (Formerly KG4NGV)
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2017 3:05 PM, "Howard Pepper"  wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations on passing your Tech and General exams, and welcome back
>>> to the community!
>>>
>>> 73, Howard
>>> AC4FS
>>>
>>> On 01/10/2017 02:02 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 at 18:52, Roger Mullins  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all-

 I was actually a member of this list several years back, but I've sort
 of neglected my M100 the last little bit (two young kiddos tend to
 monopolize free time!).  Anyhow, I passed my Technician and General exams a
 few months ago for my amateur radio license and have been learning the
 ropes as an operator.  In my search for a good way to log contacts I
 happened across Ron Wiesen's programs and that led me to dust off my 100
 and... here I am.  Looking forward to being back in the community!

 73, Roger KM4WVE





 Congratulations - I went the other way, sold my Tandy Model collection
>>> to fund my new amateur radio habit!
>>>
>>> Best of luck, Mark.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Bert Put]

Digital stuff in ham radio?  APRS of course. :-)  I thought about DSTAR
and Echolink, etc. but to me, as much fun as that is, it just feels
wrong in ham radio to rely on a technology that uses the internet.

Cheers/73,Bert/KG4BEC/VK3JCL

On 01/11/2017 01:03 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote:
> anyone doing any digital stuff?  what's all the rage these days?  what
> about managing to still incorporate an m100?
> 
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Phil Wheeler  > wrote:
> 
> Many of us go back and forth, Josh: Just wait awhile :-)
> 
> Phil W7OX
> 
> On 1/10/17 3:14 PM, Josh Malone wrote:
>> I guess i went the other other way - cleared out my ham gear and
>> piled my desk full of vintage computers. It was fun but I guess I
>> lost interest. 
>>
>> -Josh
>> (Formerly KG4NGV)
>>

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Josh Malone]

Digital ham radio modes. i.e., computer ham radio modemish things :)

There are lots of different modes for different bands and it might even be
possible to drive it from a Tandy 100 - esp. indirectly just as a terminal.

Cheers

On Jan 11, 2017 9:02 PM, "Ken Pettit"  wrote:

> Hey Jeff,
>
> What do yo umean by "digital stuff"?  I do digital stuff every day
> (designing a 14nm ASIC).  With 7 mm^2 of unused die area, I keep thinking
> how cool it would be to shove a full M100 implementation in there.  :)
>
> Ken
>
> On 1/11/17 11:03 AM, Jeff Gonzales wrote:
>
> anyone doing any digital stuff?  what's all the rage these days?  what
> about managing to still incorporate an m100?
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
>
>> Many of us go back and forth, Josh: Just wait awhile :-)
>>
>> Phil W7OX
>>
>> On 1/10/17 3:14 PM, Josh Malone wrote:
>>
>> I guess i went the other other way - cleared out my ham gear and piled my
>> desk full of vintage computers. It was fun but I guess I lost interest.
>>
>> -Josh
>> (Formerly KG4NGV)
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2017 3:05 PM, "Howard Pepper"  wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations on passing your Tech and General exams, and welcome back
>>> to the community!
>>>
>>> 73, Howard
>>> AC4FS
>>>
>>> On 01/10/2017 02:02 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 at 18:52, Roger Mullins  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all-

 I was actually a member of this list several years back, but I've sort
 of neglected my M100 the last little bit (two young kiddos tend to
 monopolize free time!).  Anyhow, I passed my Technician and General exams a
 few months ago for my amateur radio license and have been learning the
 ropes as an operator.  In my search for a good way to log contacts I
 happened across Ron Wiesen's programs and that led me to dust off my 100
 and... here I am.  Looking forward to being back in the community!

 73, Roger KM4WVE





 Congratulations - I went the other way, sold my Tandy Model collection
>>> to fund my new amateur radio habit!
>>>
>>> Best of luck, Mark.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Douglas Quagliana]

Welcome to the group Roger.  I still have a couple items on my "to do"
list for writing M100 assembly code to read the frequency of the
cassette port and decode digital data.
Douglas KA2UPW/5

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Ken Pettit  wrote:
> Hey Jeff,
>
> What do yo umean by "digital stuff"?  I do digital stuff every day
> (designing a 14nm ASIC).  With 7 mm^2 of unused die area, I keep thinking
> how cool it would be to shove a full M100 implementation in there.  :)
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 1/11/17 11:03 AM, Jeff Gonzales wrote:
>
> anyone doing any digital stuff?  what's all the rage these days?  what about
> managing to still incorporate an m100?
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
>>
>> Many of us go back and forth, Josh: Just wait awhile :-)
>>
>> Phil W7OX
>>
>> On 1/10/17 3:14 PM, Josh Malone wrote:
>>
>> I guess i went the other other way - cleared out my ham gear and piled my
>> desk full of vintage computers. It was fun but I guess I lost interest.
>>
>> -Josh
>> (Formerly KG4NGV)
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2017 3:05 PM, "Howard Pepper"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Congratulations on passing your Tech and General exams, and welcome back
>>> to the community!
>>>
>>> 73, Howard
>>> AC4FS
>>>
>>> On 01/10/2017 02:02 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 at 18:52, Roger Mullins  wrote:

 Hi all-

 I was actually a member of this list several years back, but I've sort
 of neglected my M100 the last little bit (two young kiddos tend to
 monopolize free time!).  Anyhow, I passed my Technician and General exams a
 few months ago for my amateur radio license and have been learning the 
 ropes
 as an operator.  In my search for a good way to log contacts I happened
 across Ron Wiesen's programs and that led me to dust off my 100 and... here
 I am.  Looking forward to being back in the community!

 73, Roger KM4WVE





>>> Congratulations - I went the other way, sold my Tandy Model collection to
>>> fund my new amateur radio habit!
>>>
>>> Best of luck, Mark.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Ken Pettit]

Hey Jeff,

What do yo umean by "digital stuff"?  I do digital stuff every day 
(designing a 14nm ASIC).  With 7 mm^2 of unused die area, I keep 
thinking how cool it would be to shove a full M100 implementation in 
there.  :)


Ken

On 1/11/17 11:03 AM, Jeff Gonzales wrote:
anyone doing any digital stuff?  what's all the rage these days?  what 
about managing to still incorporate an m100?


On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Phil Wheeler > wrote:


Many of us go back and forth, Josh: Just wait awhile :-)

Phil W7OX

On 1/10/17 3:14 PM, Josh Malone wrote:

I guess i went the other other way - cleared out my ham gear and
piled my desk full of vintage computers. It was fun but I guess I
lost interest.

-Josh
(Formerly KG4NGV)

On Jan 10, 2017 3:05 PM, "Howard Pepper" > wrote:

Congratulations on passing your Tech and General exams, and
welcome back to the community!

73, Howard
AC4FS

On 01/10/2017 02:02 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:


On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 at 18:52, Roger Mullins
> wrote:

Hi all-

I was actually a member of this list several years back,
but I've sort of neglected my M100 the last little bit
(two young kiddos tend to monopolize free time!). 
Anyhow, I passed my Technician and General exams a few

months ago for my amateur radio license and have been
learning the ropes as an operator.  In my search for a
good way to log contacts I happened across Ron Wiesen's
programs and that led me to dust off my 100 and... here
I am. Looking forward to being back in the community!

73, Roger KM4WVE





Congratulations - I went the other way, sold my Tandy Model
collection to fund my new amateur radio habit!

Best of luck, Mark.

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Jeff Gonzales]

anyone doing any digital stuff?  what's all the rage these days?  what
about managing to still incorporate an m100?

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:

> Many of us go back and forth, Josh: Just wait awhile :-)
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 1/10/17 3:14 PM, Josh Malone wrote:
>
> I guess i went the other other way - cleared out my ham gear and piled my
> desk full of vintage computers. It was fun but I guess I lost interest.
>
> -Josh
> (Formerly KG4NGV)
>
> On Jan 10, 2017 3:05 PM, "Howard Pepper"  wrote:
>
>> Congratulations on passing your Tech and General exams, and welcome back
>> to the community!
>>
>> 73, Howard
>> AC4FS
>>
>> On 01/10/2017 02:02 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 at 18:52, Roger Mullins  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all-
>>>
>>> I was actually a member of this list several years back, but I've sort
>>> of neglected my M100 the last little bit (two young kiddos tend to
>>> monopolize free time!).  Anyhow, I passed my Technician and General exams a
>>> few months ago for my amateur radio license and have been learning the
>>> ropes as an operator.  In my search for a good way to log contacts I
>>> happened across Ron Wiesen's programs and that led me to dust off my 100
>>> and... here I am.  Looking forward to being back in the community!
>>>
>>> 73, Roger KM4WVE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Congratulations - I went the other way, sold my Tandy Model collection
>> to fund my new amateur radio habit!
>>
>> Best of luck, Mark.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Phil Wheeler]

Many of us go back and forth, Josh: Just wait 
awhile :-)


Phil W7OX

On 1/10/17 3:14 PM, Josh Malone wrote:
I guess i went the other other way - cleared out 
my ham gear and piled my desk full of vintage 
computers. It was fun but I guess I lost interest.


-Josh
(Formerly KG4NGV)

On Jan 10, 2017 3:05 PM, "Howard Pepper" 
> wrote:


Congratulations on passing your Tech and
General exams, and welcome back to the
community!

73, Howard
AC4FS

On 01/10/2017 02:02 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:


On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 at 18:52, Roger Mullins
> wrote:

Hi all-

I was actually a member of this list
several years back, but I've sort of
neglected my M100 the last little bit
(two young kiddos tend to monopolize
free time!).  Anyhow, I passed my
Technician and General exams a few
months ago for my amateur radio license
and have been learning the ropes as an
operator.  In my search for a good way
to log contacts I happened across Ron
Wiesen's programs and that led me to
dust off my 100 and... here I am. 
Looking forward to being back in the

community!

73, Roger KM4WVE





Congratulations - I went the other way,
sold my Tandy Model collection to fund my
new amateur radio habit!

Best of luck, Mark.

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Josh Malone]

I guess i went the other other way - cleared out my ham gear and piled my
desk full of vintage computers. It was fun but I guess I lost interest.

-Josh
(Formerly KG4NGV)

On Jan 10, 2017 3:05 PM, "Howard Pepper"  wrote:

> Congratulations on passing your Tech and General exams, and welcome back
> to the community!
>
> 73, Howard
> AC4FS
>
> On 01/10/2017 02:02 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 at 18:52, Roger Mullins  wrote:
>
>> Hi all-
>>
>> I was actually a member of this list several years back, but I've sort of
>> neglected my M100 the last little bit (two young kiddos tend to monopolize
>> free time!).  Anyhow, I passed my Technician and General exams a few months
>> ago for my amateur radio license and have been learning the ropes as an
>> operator.  In my search for a good way to log contacts I happened across
>> Ron Wiesen's programs and that led me to dust off my 100 and... here I am.
>> Looking forward to being back in the community!
>>
>> 73, Roger KM4WVE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Congratulations - I went the other way, sold my Tandy Model collection to
> fund my new amateur radio habit!
>
> Best of luck, Mark.
>
>
>

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Howard Pepper]

Congratulations on passing your Tech and General exams, and welcome back
to the community!

73, Howard
AC4FS

On 01/10/2017 02:02 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
>
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 at 18:52, Roger Mullins  > wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> I was actually a member of this list several years back, but I've
> sort of neglected my M100 the last little bit (two young kiddos
> tend to monopolize free time!).  Anyhow, I passed my Technician
> and General exams a few months ago for my amateur radio license
> and have been learning the ropes as an operator.  In my search for
> a good way to log contacts I happened across Ron Wiesen's programs
> and that led me to dust off my 100 and... here I am.  Looking
> forward to being back in the community!
>
> 73, Roger KM4WVE
>
>
>
>
>
> Congratulations - I went the other way, sold my Tandy Model collection
> to fund my new amateur radio habit!
>
> Best of luck, Mark.

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Brian White]

Nice to meet ya, KA2PLF.

On Jan 10, 2017 2:03 PM, "Mark Wickens"  wrote:

>
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 at 18:52, Roger Mullins  wrote:
>
>> Hi all-
>>
>> I was actually a member of this list several years back, but I've sort of
>> neglected my M100 the last little bit (two young kiddos tend to monopolize
>> free time!).  Anyhow, I passed my Technician and General exams a few months
>> ago for my amateur radio license and have been learning the ropes as an
>> operator.  In my search for a good way to log contacts I happened across
>> Ron Wiesen's programs and that led me to dust off my 100 and... here I am.
>> Looking forward to being back in the community!
>>
>> 73, Roger KM4WVE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Congratulations - I went the other way, sold my Tandy Model collection to
> fund my new amateur radio habit!
>
> Best of luck, Mark.
>

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Mike Stein]

Congratulations and welcome back!

mike
VE3IPK
  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger Mullins 
  To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:51 PM
  Subject: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator


  Hi all-



  I was actually a member of this list several years back, but I've sort of 
neglected my M100 the last little bit (two young kiddos tend to monopolize free 
time!).  Anyhow, I passed my Technician and General exams a few months ago for 
my amateur radio license and have been learning the ropes as an operator.  In 
my search for a good way to log contacts I happened across Ron Wiesen's 
programs and that led me to dust off my 100 and... here I am.  Looking forward 
to being back in the community!


  73, Roger KM4WVE

Re: [M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Mark Wickens]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 at 18:52, Roger Mullins  wrote:

> Hi all-
>
> I was actually a member of this list several years back, but I've sort of
> neglected my M100 the last little bit (two young kiddos tend to monopolize
> free time!).  Anyhow, I passed my Technician and General exams a few months
> ago for my amateur radio license and have been learning the ropes as an
> operator.  In my search for a good way to log contacts I happened across
> Ron Wiesen's programs and that led me to dust off my 100 and... here I am.
> Looking forward to being back in the community!
>
> 73, Roger KM4WVE
>
>
>
>
>
> Congratulations - I went the other way, sold my Tandy Model collection to
fund my new amateur radio habit!

Best of luck, Mark.

[M100] Hello (again) from a newly-minted ham radio operator

[Roger Mullins]

Hi all-

I was actually a member of this list several years back, but I've sort of
neglected my M100 the last little bit (two young kiddos tend to monopolize
free time!).  Anyhow, I passed my Technician and General exams a few months
ago for my amateur radio license and have been learning the ropes as an
operator.  In my search for a good way to log contacts I happened across
Ron Wiesen's programs and that led me to dust off my 100 and... here I am.
Looking forward to being back in the community!

73, Roger KM4WVE

[M100] Hello and some questions

[David Boyd]

Hi. I'm David Boyd, and I got my T102 about a year or two ago, just to have
fun with and because it was a classic. I learned to program on a DECsystem
10 in the '70s, then on a PDP11, and eventually on my own first computer, a
TRS-80 PC-2. Later on, the Zenith Z-120 was my first MS-DOS machine, and
apart from an Atari ST, it's been all DOS and Windows since then. Now
there's Arduino, and old 8-bits, and I'm having a blast.

I eventually expanded the RAM and got a REX for the T102, (thanks, Steve!
It's great!) and I'm pretty happy that way, though I am looking for
something to sub for a disc drive that's more portable than using my laptop
and a null-modem cable.

Recently I acquired a T200 from eBay. It was cheap, presumably because it
came with nothing, including a missing battery door, but it's nicely
functional apart from the "A" key, and I imagine some alcohol or DeOxyIt
will take care of that. So I am looking for:

another REX, somehow
a 2x24k RAM board
a battery door or measured drawing of one that I can 3D print

So, Steve Adolph, please add my name to the list of REX-seekers. Do you
have any T200RAM Modules left? Is there a way I can have a REX made? Maybe
the 5.0 version, if that is scheduled for anytime in the next couple of
years...

Anyone got a T200 parts machine and would like sell me a battery door?
-- 
-- 
Dave Boyd

Hey! Just for fun, copy this line to your sig file!

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Ryan Fransen]

I have confirmed it reads 4.06 volts after approx 24 hours after being 
unplugged from roughly a 24 hour charge.  What is weird, is after the 
suggestion of reseating socketed connections, (I only found one IC with a 
socket) and after reseating it, it booted up fine every time for ~10 times, now 
back to the issue.  Of note, when the issue reappeared after working those 10 
times, when continued off-on finally succeeded once, I noticed the date time 
was reset. During those 10 successful startups however the clock was not reset, 
as expected.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Stephen Adolph  wrote:
> 
> might be worthwhile to just check the voltage on it... make sure the
> battery is able to hold a charge at 3.6V and is not a bad battery.
> sounds like you keep getting ram corruption.
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Ryan Fransen  wrote:
>> Good call on the reseat, I will do that as a good measure.
>> 
>> Yes, I've replaced the nicad and have charged overnight, though I haven't
>> done anymore troubleshooting to confirm operation of the nicad circuit.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Lee Kelley  wrote:
>> 
>> In your first post you said you replaced the internal battery, I assume that
>> was the soldered in place ni-cad.   The next step that I would do is to
>> disconnect every connector be sure the contacts are clean and re insert it.
>> This might be all that's needed.  This should include any socketed chip as
>> well.
>> 
>> Lee
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:34 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Monday, June 27, 2016, Ryan Fransen  wrote:
 
 Lee, though this trick certainly did work, it seems this needs to be
 repeated each time.  Once turned off, then back to square one.  Something
 else odd, is that the trick appears to work only ~50% of the time, whereas
 just turning off and on, will not result in anything more than the solid
 pixels.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>>> 
>>> The m100 had an internal nicd battery. Normally units I get off eBay have
>>> to sit plugged into the wall wart overnight before they function properly.
>>> 
>>> It could also be that your nicd is shot and needs to be replaced. You
>>> could check the voltage across it after letting it charge.
>>> 
>>> -- John.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> "I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
>> family"  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Stephen Adolph]

might be worthwhile to just check the voltage on it... make sure the
battery is able to hold a charge at 3.6V and is not a bad battery.
sounds like you keep getting ram corruption.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Ryan Fransen  wrote:
> Good call on the reseat, I will do that as a good measure.
>
> Yes, I've replaced the nicad and have charged overnight, though I haven't
> done anymore troubleshooting to confirm operation of the nicad circuit.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 27, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Lee Kelley  wrote:
>
> In your first post you said you replaced the internal battery, I assume that
> was the soldered in place ni-cad.   The next step that I would do is to
> disconnect every connector be sure the contacts are clean and re insert it.
> This might be all that's needed.  This should include any socketed chip as
> well.
>
> Lee
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:34 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 27, 2016, Ryan Fransen  wrote:
>>>
>>> Lee, though this trick certainly did work, it seems this needs to be
>>> repeated each time.  Once turned off, then back to square one.  Something
>>> else odd, is that the trick appears to work only ~50% of the time, whereas
>>> just turning off and on, will not result in anything more than the solid
>>> pixels.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>
>> The m100 had an internal nicd battery. Normally units I get off eBay have
>> to sit plugged into the wall wart overnight before they function properly.
>>
>> It could also be that your nicd is shot and needs to be replaced. You
>> could check the voltage across it after letting it charge.
>>
>> -- John.
>
>
>
>
> --
> "I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
> family"  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Ryan Fransen]

Good call on the reseat, I will do that as a good measure.

Yes, I've replaced the nicad and have charged overnight, though I haven't done 
anymore troubleshooting to confirm operation of the nicad circuit.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Lee Kelley  wrote:
> 
> In your first post you said you replaced the internal battery, I assume that 
> was the soldered in place ni-cad.   The next step that I would do is to 
> disconnect every connector be sure the contacts are clean and re insert it.  
> This might be all that's needed.  This should include any socketed chip as 
> well.
> 
> Lee
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:34 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Monday, June 27, 2016, Ryan Fransen  wrote:
>>> Lee, though this trick certainly did work, it seems this needs to be 
>>> repeated each time.  Once turned off, then back to square one.  Something 
>>> else odd, is that the trick appears to work only ~50% of the time, whereas 
>>> just turning off and on, will not result in anything more than the solid 
>>> pixels.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> The m100 had an internal nicd battery. Normally units I get off eBay have to 
>> sit plugged into the wall wart overnight before they function properly. 
>> 
>> It could also be that your nicd is shot and needs to be replaced. You could 
>> check the voltage across it after letting it charge. 
>> 
>> -- John.  
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole 
> family"  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Lee Kelley]

In your first post you said you replaced the internal battery, I assume
that was the soldered in place ni-cad.   The next step that I would do is
to disconnect every connector be sure the contacts are clean and re insert
it.  This might be all that's needed.  This should include any socketed
chip as well.

Lee

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:34 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, June 27, 2016, Ryan Fransen  wrote:
>
>> Lee, though this trick certainly did work, it seems this needs to be
>> repeated each time.  Once turned off, then back to square one.  Something
>> else odd, is that the trick appears to work only ~50% of the time, whereas
>> just turning off and on, will not result in anything more than the solid
>> pixels.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
> The m100 had an internal nicd battery. Normally units I get off eBay have
> to sit plugged into the wall wart overnight before they function properly.
>
> It could also be that your nicd is shot and needs to be replaced. You
> could check the voltage across it after letting it charge.
>
> -- John.
>



-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Ryan Fransen]

Lee, though this trick certainly did work, it seems this needs to be repeated 
each time.  Once turned off, then back to square one.  Something else odd, is 
that the trick appears to work only ~50% of the time, whereas just turning off 
and on, will not result in anything more than the solid pixels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:22 PM, Ryan Fransen  wrote:
> 
> Lee, thank you.  That worked!
> 
> http://www3.telus.net/ryanfransen/m100.jpg
> 
> Thank you so much for the tip, greatly appreciated.  Now on to sorting out 
> storage solutions.  I've read about a few different methods for storage on sd 
> cards or similar.  I wonder which options are still available and/or 
> recommended?
> 
> Ryan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Lee Kelley  wrote:
>> 
>> At this point probably a full cold restart would do the trick.
>> Turn off the memory switch on the bottom for a few minutes then turn it back 
>> on then turn on the M100 I think that might just do the trick, assuming it 
>> has at least 8k of ram installed and has the OS Rom in it.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Ryan Fransen  wrote:
>>> Hi everyone.  Being new to the group, and as suggested by John, I thought I 
>>> would introduce myself.
>>> 
>>> I recently became the lucky owner of a M100.  This is the first time I've 
>>> had a M100, so is a whole new world for me to discover. I couldn't afford 
>>> one when they came out - The best I had at the time was a coco.  I am an 
>>> old time SW Engineer, and currently have a M1 and a M3 in my collection.  
>>> Both have been fixed up and work beautifully, though I don't get too much 
>>> of a chance to use them these days.
>>> 
>>> The M100 wasn't working at all when I bought it, though I hope to get it 
>>> working and both use and write sw for it. I have since replaced the 
>>> internal battery, and after giving it a good charge, when I turn the 
>>> machine on I now get solid pixels on the display - all on.  At least some 
>>> progress! I did find the service manual, though haven't had a chance yet to 
>>> hook up the scope and see what I can find out.  Any and all help is greatly 
>>> appreciated in getting this up and working.
>>> 
>>> Once working I will be looking for some advice on best techniques for file 
>>> storage/transfer, though step one is to get a working machine.
>>> 
>>> Thanks everyone. I have enjoyed watching the discussions in this group and 
>>> happy to see such a community for a great machine.
>>> 
>>> Ryan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> "I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole 
>> family"  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Ryan Fransen]

Brian, great info, thanks very much.  Yes, would be both storage and transfer 
options I will need ultimately, so will look into all the info you sent.

As for the + to 32k, yes, please PM me the details and would be happy to get 
started with those.

Thanks again,
Ryan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Brian White  wrote:
> 
> Oh you said storage not transfer... well there is no really good storage 
> option right now. You can run dlplus on a raspberry pi and that can serve as 
> a sort-of-NADS.
> 
> You can try to build a QUAD which gives you 4 32k banks that you can switch 
> between. So you could have a bunch of utilities in one bank and a bunch of 
> games in another and still have 2 banks empty for current work.
> 
> https://www.oshpark.com/shared_projects/pStseujD
> 
> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=QUAD
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2016 1:21 PM, "Brian White"  wrote:
>> That display looks like you have 8k ram. You can fill the rest up to 32k 
>> pretty cheap.
>> 
>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1186716131388896?view=permalink=1190283307698845
>> 
>> I can sell you 3 of those since I have 8 I'm not using, or you can follow 
>> the same ebay link and get some from the same source.
>> 
>> As for file transfer, I used dlplus and teeny with a linux netbook and a 
>> serial connection. (netbook -> usb-rs232 adapter -> null modem adapter -> 
>> 9female-25male serial cable. -> m100)
>> 
>> But there are several options:
>> 
>> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Model_T_File_Transfer
>> 
>> Longer term, I assembled an open source hardware option rom adapter and have 
>> played with various option roms that had some level of tpdd client baked in. 
>> This facebook thread goes into a lot of details.
>> 
>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1186716131388896?view=permalink=1215063315220844=content_filter
>> 
>> I don't have all the info written up in a better place yet. The main post 
>> lists the links to the 2 things to order from oshpark, and one of the 
>> replies lists all the parts and tools.
>> 
>> -- 
>> bkw
>>> On Jun 25, 2016 12:22 AM, "Ryan Fransen"  wrote:
>>> Lee, thank you.  That worked!
>>> 
>>> http://www3.telus.net/ryanfransen/m100.jpg
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much for the tip, greatly appreciated.  Now on to sorting out 
>>> storage solutions.  I've read about a few different methods for storage on 
>>> sd cards or similar.  I wonder which options are still available and/or 
>>> recommended?
>>> 
>>> Ryan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 24, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Lee Kelley  wrote:
 
 At this point probably a full cold restart would do the trick.
 Turn off the memory switch on the bottom for a few minutes then turn it 
 back on then turn on the M100 I think that might just do the trick, 
 assuming it has at least 8k of ram installed and has the OS Rom in it.
 
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Ryan Fransen  
> wrote:
> Hi everyone.  Being new to the group, and as suggested by John, I thought 
> I would introduce myself.
> 
> I recently became the lucky owner of a M100.  This is the first time I've 
> had a M100, so is a whole new world for me to discover. I couldn't afford 
> one when they came out - The best I had at the time was a coco.  I am an 
> old time SW Engineer, and currently have a M1 and a M3 in my collection.  
> Both have been fixed up and work beautifully, though I don't get too much 
> of a chance to use them these days.
> 
> The M100 wasn't working at all when I bought it, though I hope to get it 
> working and both use and write sw for it. I have since replaced the 
> internal battery, and after giving it a good charge, when I turn the 
> machine on I now get solid pixels on the display - all on.  At least some 
> progress! I did find the service manual, though haven't had a chance yet 
> to hook up the scope and see what I can find out.  Any and all help is 
> greatly appreciated in getting this up and working.
> 
> Once working I will be looking for some advice on best techniques for 
> file storage/transfer, though step one is to get a working machine.
> 
> Thanks everyone. I have enjoyed watching the discussions in this group 
> and happy to see such a community for a great machine.
> 
> Ryan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 -- 
 "I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole 
 family"  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Brian White]

Oh you said storage not transfer... well there is no really good storage
option right now. You can run dlplus on a raspberry pi and that can serve
as a sort-of-NADS.

You can try to build a QUAD which gives you 4 32k banks that you can switch
between. So you could have a bunch of utilities in one bank and a bunch of
games in another and still have 2 banks empty for current work.

https://www.oshpark.com/shared_projects/pStseujD

http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=QUAD
On Jun 25, 2016 1:21 PM, "Brian White"  wrote:

> That display looks like you have 8k ram. You can fill the rest up to 32k
> pretty cheap.
>
>
> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1186716131388896?view=permalink=1190283307698845
>
> I can sell you 3 of those since I have 8 I'm not using, or you can follow
> the same ebay link and get some from the same source.
>
> As for file transfer, I used dlplus and teeny with a linux netbook and a
> serial connection. (netbook -> usb-rs232 adapter -> null modem adapter ->
> 9female-25male serial cable. -> m100)
>
> But there are several options:
>
> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Model_T_File_Transfer
>
> Longer term, I assembled an open source hardware option rom adapter and
> have played with various option roms that had some level of tpdd client
> baked in. This facebook thread goes into a lot of details.
>
>
> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1186716131388896?view=permalink=1215063315220844=content_filter
>
> I don't have all the info written up in a better place yet. The main post
> lists the links to the 2 things to order from oshpark, and one of the
> replies lists all the parts and tools.
>
> --
> bkw
> On Jun 25, 2016 12:22 AM, "Ryan Fransen"  wrote:
>
>> Lee, thank you.  That worked!
>>
>> http://www3.telus.net/ryanfransen/m100.jpg
>>
>> Thank you so much for the tip, greatly appreciated.  Now on to sorting
>> out storage solutions.  I've read about a few different methods for storage
>> on sd cards or similar.  I wonder which options are still available and/or
>> recommended?
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Lee Kelley  wrote:
>>
>> At this point probably a full cold restart would do the trick.
>> Turn off the memory switch on the bottom for a few minutes then turn it
>> back on then turn on the M100 I think that might just do the trick,
>> assuming it has at least 8k of ram installed and has the OS Rom in it.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Ryan Fransen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone.  Being new to the group, and as suggested by John, I
>>> thought I would introduce myself.
>>>
>>> I recently became the lucky owner of a M100.  This is the first time
>>> I've had a M100, so is a whole new world for me to discover. I couldn't
>>> afford one when they came out - The best I had at the time was a coco.  I
>>> am an old time SW Engineer, and currently have a M1 and a M3 in my
>>> collection.  Both have been fixed up and work beautifully, though I don't
>>> get too much of a chance to use them these days.
>>>
>>> The M100 wasn't working at all when I bought it, though I hope to get it
>>> working and both use and write sw for it. I have since replaced the
>>> internal battery, and after giving it a good charge, when I turn the
>>> machine on I now get solid pixels on the display - all on.  At least some
>>> progress! I did find the service manual, though haven't had a chance yet to
>>> hook up the scope and see what I can find out.  Any and all help is greatly
>>> appreciated in getting this up and working.
>>>
>>> Once working I will be looking for some advice on best techniques for
>>> file storage/transfer, though step one is to get a working machine.
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone. I have enjoyed watching the discussions in this group
>>> and happy to see such a community for a great machine.
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>
>>

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Brian White]

That display looks like you have 8k ram. You can fill the rest up to 32k
pretty cheap.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1186716131388896?view=permalink=1190283307698845

I can sell you 3 of those since I have 8 I'm not using, or you can follow
the same ebay link and get some from the same source.

As for file transfer, I used dlplus and teeny with a linux netbook and a
serial connection. (netbook -> usb-rs232 adapter -> null modem adapter ->
9female-25male serial cable. -> m100)

But there are several options:

http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Model_T_File_Transfer

Longer term, I assembled an open source hardware option rom adapter and
have played with various option roms that had some level of tpdd client
baked in. This facebook thread goes into a lot of details.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1186716131388896?view=permalink=1215063315220844=content_filter

I don't have all the info written up in a better place yet. The main post
lists the links to the 2 things to order from oshpark, and one of the
replies lists all the parts and tools.

-- 
bkw
On Jun 25, 2016 12:22 AM, "Ryan Fransen"  wrote:

> Lee, thank you.  That worked!
>
> http://www3.telus.net/ryanfransen/m100.jpg
>
> Thank you so much for the tip, greatly appreciated.  Now on to sorting out
> storage solutions.  I've read about a few different methods for storage on
> sd cards or similar.  I wonder which options are still available and/or
> recommended?
>
> Ryan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 24, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Lee Kelley  wrote:
>
> At this point probably a full cold restart would do the trick.
> Turn off the memory switch on the bottom for a few minutes then turn it
> back on then turn on the M100 I think that might just do the trick,
> assuming it has at least 8k of ram installed and has the OS Rom in it.
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Ryan Fransen 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone.  Being new to the group, and as suggested by John, I thought
>> I would introduce myself.
>>
>> I recently became the lucky owner of a M100.  This is the first time I've
>> had a M100, so is a whole new world for me to discover. I couldn't afford
>> one when they came out - The best I had at the time was a coco.  I am an
>> old time SW Engineer, and currently have a M1 and a M3 in my collection.
>> Both have been fixed up and work beautifully, though I don't get too much
>> of a chance to use them these days.
>>
>> The M100 wasn't working at all when I bought it, though I hope to get it
>> working and both use and write sw for it. I have since replaced the
>> internal battery, and after giving it a good charge, when I turn the
>> machine on I now get solid pixels on the display - all on.  At least some
>> progress! I did find the service manual, though haven't had a chance yet to
>> hook up the scope and see what I can find out.  Any and all help is greatly
>> appreciated in getting this up and working.
>>
>> Once working I will be looking for some advice on best techniques for
>> file storage/transfer, though step one is to get a working machine.
>>
>> Thanks everyone. I have enjoyed watching the discussions in this group
>> and happy to see such a community for a great machine.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
> --
> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
> family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>
>

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Ryan Fransen]

Lee, thank you.  That worked!

http://www3.telus.net/ryanfransen/m100.jpg

Thank you so much for the tip, greatly appreciated.  Now on to sorting out 
storage solutions.  I've read about a few different methods for storage on sd 
cards or similar.  I wonder which options are still available and/or 
recommended?

Ryan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Lee Kelley  wrote:
> 
> At this point probably a full cold restart would do the trick.
> Turn off the memory switch on the bottom for a few minutes then turn it back 
> on then turn on the M100 I think that might just do the trick, assuming it 
> has at least 8k of ram installed and has the OS Rom in it.
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Ryan Fransen  wrote:
>> Hi everyone.  Being new to the group, and as suggested by John, I thought I 
>> would introduce myself.
>> 
>> I recently became the lucky owner of a M100.  This is the first time I've 
>> had a M100, so is a whole new world for me to discover. I couldn't afford 
>> one when they came out - The best I had at the time was a coco.  I am an old 
>> time SW Engineer, and currently have a M1 and a M3 in my collection.  Both 
>> have been fixed up and work beautifully, though I don't get too much of a 
>> chance to use them these days.
>> 
>> The M100 wasn't working at all when I bought it, though I hope to get it 
>> working and both use and write sw for it. I have since replaced the internal 
>> battery, and after giving it a good charge, when I turn the machine on I now 
>> get solid pixels on the display - all on.  At least some progress! I did 
>> find the service manual, though haven't had a chance yet to hook up the 
>> scope and see what I can find out.  Any and all help is greatly appreciated 
>> in getting this up and working.
>> 
>> Once working I will be looking for some advice on best techniques for file 
>> storage/transfer, though step one is to get a working machine.
>> 
>> Thanks everyone. I have enjoyed watching the discussions in this group and 
>> happy to see such a community for a great machine.
>> 
>> Ryan
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole 
> family"  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Hello / How I added Internal Bluetooth

[Stephen Adolph]

ah, so the line and character delay is a pretty severe limitation but
I can see how that works.

If you plug "bitchin100 getblue" into google you will find my notes on
what I've done with getblue.  It's only a monitor program but it can
bridge BT onto IP which is cool.  I've run across the wan to a TPDD
device pretty reliably.

steve

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Chris  wrote:
> Re flow control:
>
> The chinese bluetooth board is factory set to 9600 / 8bit / Parity None / 1
> stop bit.
> I left it as is as I'm not sure how to change it easily
>
> WINDOWS:
> I set the M102 telcom to match the Bluetooth at 88N1E
> I set Teraterm to match this - works both ways with a 10msec Char and 10msec
> Line delay
> This works fine both ways - I can DL and UL fine.
>
> ANDROID
> On Android I can find NO apps with a msec delay feature.
> Using "Terminal for Bluetooth" I can UL to android fine,
> but DL from Android has loads of skipped bits - no way to add a delay to fix
> it.
>
> There's too much I don't understand about GetBlue - no usable results yet.
> If you have any setup guidelines for GetBlue maybe post here?
> Can I use GetBlue to send and receive to a Telnet BBS via android internet
> connection?
> Other uses?
>
> All the best,
> Chris.
>
>
>
>
>
> M102 to Windows PC running Teraterm or similar
>
>
> On 24 June 2016 at 20:16, Stephen Adolph  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>> do you have any trouble with flow control on this rig?
>> I use GetBlue myself.
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Chris  wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> > I have an M102 that I recently bought from ebay.
>> > I want to use my it as a distraction-free writing tool.
>> >
>> > I have added a bluetooth module internally:
>> >
>> > http://www.dx.com/p/jy-mcu-arduino-bluetooth-wireless-serial-port-module-104299
>> > using this method:
>> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ehgradman/sets/72157603124164552/
>> >
>> > Everything works and I can upload and download files wirelessly over
>> > bluetooth via my  windows PC, and partially via my android phone.
>> >
>> > I'm currently looking for the best Android Bluetooth serial app
>> > to sync writing with the cloud.
>> >
>> > The best Android apps so far are:
>> > "Terminal for Bluetooth" by Next Prototypes:
>> >
>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextprototypes.bluetoothterminal=en
>> > Works, but a but klunky, hard to manage files.
>> >
>> > I've been trying to use
>> > "GetBlue" by Tec-It
>> >
>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tecit.datareader.android.getblue.demo=en_GB
>> > Expensive, but offers google docs sync (maybe) , TCP-IP and HTML
>> > connectivity - maybe offering wireless Telnet, email and other fun
>> > things.
>> > But I don't have the technical knowledge to understand any of the
>> > network
>> > protocols...
>> >
>> > I might write an android app to offer simple one click file transfer to
>> > the
>> > cloud, Let me know if anyone is interested and what you are looking for.
>> >
>> > Finally: After opening my M102 I am left with 3 small (3mm cubed)
>> > blocks.
>> > They appear to be keyboard holding clips - anyone know where they were
>> > supposed to be on reassembly?!
>> >
>> > Hello and Happy retro-computing to everyone,
>> > Chris.
>
>

Re: [M100] Hello / How I added Internal Bluetooth

[Chris]

Re flow control:

The chinese bluetooth board is factory set to 9600 / 8bit / Parity None / 1
stop bit.
I left it as is as I'm not sure how to change it easily

WINDOWS:
I set the M102 telcom to match the Bluetooth at 88N1E
I set Teraterm to match this - works both ways with a 10msec Char and
10msec Line delay
This works fine both ways - I can DL and UL fine.

ANDROID
On Android I can find NO apps with a msec delay feature.
Using "Terminal for Bluetooth" I can UL to android fine,
but DL from Android has loads of skipped bits - no way to add a delay to
fix it.

There's too much I don't understand about GetBlue - no usable results yet.
If you have any setup guidelines for GetBlue maybe post here?
Can I use GetBlue to send and receive to a Telnet BBS via android internet
connection?
Other uses?

All the best,
Chris.





M102 to Windows PC running Teraterm or similar

On 24 June 2016 at 20:16, Stephen Adolph  wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> do you have any trouble with flow control on this rig?
> I use GetBlue myself.
> Steve
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Chris  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I have an M102 that I recently bought from ebay.
> > I want to use my it as a distraction-free writing tool.
> >
> > I have added a bluetooth module internally:
> >
> http://www.dx.com/p/jy-mcu-arduino-bluetooth-wireless-serial-port-module-104299
> > using this method:
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ehgradman/sets/72157603124164552/
> >
> > Everything works and I can upload and download files wirelessly over
> > bluetooth via my  windows PC, and partially via my android phone.
> >
> > I'm currently looking for the best Android Bluetooth serial app
> > to sync writing with the cloud.
> >
> > The best Android apps so far are:
> > "Terminal for Bluetooth" by Next Prototypes:
> >
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextprototypes.bluetoothterminal=en
> > Works, but a but klunky, hard to manage files.
> >
> > I've been trying to use
> > "GetBlue" by Tec-It
> >
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tecit.datareader.android.getblue.demo=en_GB
> > Expensive, but offers google docs sync (maybe) , TCP-IP and HTML
> > connectivity - maybe offering wireless Telnet, email and other fun
> things.
> > But I don't have the technical knowledge to understand any of the network
> > protocols...
> >
> > I might write an android app to offer simple one click file transfer to
> the
> > cloud, Let me know if anyone is interested and what you are looking for.
> >
> > Finally: After opening my M102 I am left with 3 small (3mm cubed) blocks.
> > They appear to be keyboard holding clips - anyone know where they were
> > supposed to be on reassembly?!
> >
> > Hello and Happy retro-computing to everyone,
> > Chris.
>

Re: [M100] Hello / How I added Internal Bluetooth

[Stephen Adolph]

Hi Chris,
do you have any trouble with flow control on this rig?
I use GetBlue myself.
Steve


On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Chris  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have an M102 that I recently bought from ebay.
> I want to use my it as a distraction-free writing tool.
>
> I have added a bluetooth module internally:
> http://www.dx.com/p/jy-mcu-arduino-bluetooth-wireless-serial-port-module-104299
> using this method:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ehgradman/sets/72157603124164552/
>
> Everything works and I can upload and download files wirelessly over
> bluetooth via my  windows PC, and partially via my android phone.
>
> I'm currently looking for the best Android Bluetooth serial app
> to sync writing with the cloud.
>
> The best Android apps so far are:
> "Terminal for Bluetooth" by Next Prototypes:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextprototypes.bluetoothterminal=en
> Works, but a but klunky, hard to manage files.
>
> I've been trying to use
> "GetBlue" by Tec-It
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tecit.datareader.android.getblue.demo=en_GB
> Expensive, but offers google docs sync (maybe) , TCP-IP and HTML
> connectivity - maybe offering wireless Telnet, email and other fun things.
> But I don't have the technical knowledge to understand any of the network
> protocols...
>
> I might write an android app to offer simple one click file transfer to the
> cloud, Let me know if anyone is interested and what you are looking for.
>
> Finally: After opening my M102 I am left with 3 small (3mm cubed) blocks.
> They appear to be keyboard holding clips - anyone know where they were
> supposed to be on reassembly?!
>
> Hello and Happy retro-computing to everyone,
> Chris.

[M100] Hello / How I added Internal Bluetooth

[Chris]

Hi all,
I have an M102 that I recently bought from ebay.
I want to use my it as a distraction-free writing tool.

I have added a bluetooth module internally:
http://www.dx.com/p/jy-mcu-arduino-bluetooth-wireless-serial-port-module-104299
using this method:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ehgradman/sets/72157603124164552/

Everything works and I can upload and download files wirelessly over
bluetooth via my  windows PC, and partially via my android phone.

I'm currently looking for the best Android Bluetooth serial app
to sync writing with the cloud.

The best Android apps so far are:
"Terminal for Bluetooth" by Next Prototypes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextprototypes.bluetoothterminal=en
Works, but a but klunky, hard to manage files.

I've been trying to use
"GetBlue" by Tec-It
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tecit.datareader.android.getblue.demo=en_GB
Expensive, but offers google docs sync (maybe) , TCP-IP and HTML
connectivity - maybe offering wireless Telnet, email and other fun things.
But I don't have the technical knowledge to understand any of the network
protocols...

I might write an android app to offer simple one click file transfer to the
cloud, Let me know if anyone is interested and what you are looking for.

Finally: After opening my M102 I am left with 3 small (3mm cubed) blocks.
They appear to be keyboard holding clips - anyone know where they were
supposed to be on reassembly?!

Hello and Happy retro-computing to everyone,
Chris.