On May 9, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Daniel T. Staal wrote:
Macs desperately _need_ a an app to manage third-party software
updates.
Something that you could run periodically to keep software up to date,
avoiding having every seprate program connect to the internet on
startup
and check for itself.
On 5/9/07 Peter N Lewis wrote:
>Perhaps folks have some ideas for apps that could be written in
>CamelBones? Something that would presumably use some of the vast CPAN
>facilities to make something cool with minimal programming effort.
Mine would not be as flashy as games, but I'm working toward
On Wed, May 9, 2007 3:50 pm, Sherm Pendley said:
> So, the next version - 1.2 release, preceded by 1.1.x betas - will
> also be licensed under the same terms: GPL or Artistic, your choice.
> I wouldn't have had a problem with a commercial program using CB
> anyway, even before the license change
On May 9, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Peter N Lewis wrote:
Unfortunately, the benefit is how much it is customized to my needs
which makes it pretty much useless as even an example for CamelBones.
I get the impression that your app isn't the only one. As you
probably know, I've wondered aloud from t
At 03:24 PM 5/9/2007, Sherm Pendley wrote:
On May 9, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Vic Norton wrote:
| Mathematician and Motorcyclist
Have you seen the new Norton motorcycles? The Commando is *sweet*! :-)
Please keep the non-Mac/Perl tech porn drooling to a minimum, please.
And good luck with the
On 2007-05-09 Peter N Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps folks have some ideas for apps that could be written in CamelBones?
> Something that would presumably use some of the vast CPAN facilities to make
> something cool with minimal programming effort.
I've been thinking that a GUI for
At 12:59 +0200 9/5/07, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
One or two cool apps will help.
To me, this seems the crucial thing to help. I know for myself,
CamelBones let me build my own photo organizer (kind of like iPhoto
but without the editing and with organising features directly related
to how I st
On May 9, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Vic Norton wrote:
On 5/8/07, at 5:25 PM -0400, Sherm Pendley wrote:
It's not just in Mac circles either - there's a very widespread
misconception that Perl is useful for system admins, web developers,
and little else. One thing I find personally frustrating is the
c
On May 9, 2007, at 6:38 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
Sorry to have taken this off-list Sherm, it was an accident.
No worries. I figured you didn't want to talk about your blog before
it was actually posted; some publishers have funny rules about stuff
like that.
Can I reply
on the list or
On May 9, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Bruce Van Allen wrote:
On 5/9/07 Jeremiah Foster wrote:
I have blogged a bit about Camel Bones here on O'Reilly. Please
comment if you would so that the python person who commented is not
the sole comment. Nothing personal against python but it sucks.
But let's no
On 5/9/07 Jeremiah Foster wrote:
>Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:55:54AM -0700: Bruce Van Allen mangled some
bits into this alignment:
>> On 5/9/07 Jeremiah Foster wrote:
>> >I have blogged a bit about Camel Bones here on O'Reilly. Please
>> >comment if you would so that the python person who commented
Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:55:54AM -0700: Bruce Van Allen mangled some bits into
this alignment:
> On 5/9/07 Jeremiah Foster wrote:
> >I have blogged a bit about Camel Bones here on O'Reilly. Please
> >comment if you would so that the python person who commented is not
> >the sole comment. Nothing p
On 5/9/07 Jeremiah Foster wrote:
>I have blogged a bit about Camel Bones here on O'Reilly. Please
>comment if you would so that the python person who commented is not
>the sole comment. Nothing personal against python but it sucks.
But let's not turn this into a battle in the "best language" wars.
On 5/8/07, at 5:25 PM -0400, Sherm Pendley wrote:
> It's not just in Mac circles either - there's a very widespread
> misconception that Perl is useful for system admins, web developers,
> and little else. One thing I find personally frustrating is the
> corollary, that Perl *programmers* mus
Hi all,
I have blogged a bit about Camel Bones here on O'Reilly. Please comment if you
would so that the python person who commented is not the sole comment. Nothing
personal against python but it sucks.
http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/2007/05/developing_with_camel_bones_pe_1.html
J
Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:25:35PM -0400: Sherm Pendley mangled some bits into
this alignment:
> On May 7, 2007, at 6:23 AM, David Cantrell wrote:
>
> >On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:25:49PM +0100, Alex Robinson wrote:
> >
> >> Why did the OS X loving bit of
> >>the
Sun, May 06, 2007 at 05:07:46PM -0400: Sherm Pendley mangled some bits into
this alignment:
> On May 6, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Alex Robinson wrote:
>
> >I wish even more that Apple had picked you up and made CamelBones a
> >first class citizen.
>
> Good news: That may still happen.
Good news inde
Sherm Pendley wrote:
On May 7, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Chris Nandor wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sherm Pendley) wrote:
I need donations to CamelBones. Or web hosting customers. Or
consulting clients. Or a plain old-fashioned job. Or something - and
I need it soon.
H
At 5:25 PM -0400 5/8/07, Sherm Pendley wrote:
there's a very widespread misconception that Perl is useful for
system admins, web developers, and little else. One thing I find
personally frustrating is the corollary, that Perl *programmers*
must be admins or web devs. I find that frustrating bec
Sherm et al.,
I know that a great deal of Bioinformatics people also use Perl ...
and Macs! If some of the framework could be shown how it would be
good for these people to use Camelbones, maybe that would help with
takeup. I tend to just use the Tk library for all my UI stuff (or web
bro
On May 7, 2007, at 6:23 AM, David Cantrell wrote:
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:25:49PM +0100, Alex Robinson wrote:
Why did the OS X loving bit of
the perl community sit by and let PyObjC become the default bridge.
Because the vast majority of perl people w
On May 7, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Chris Nandor wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sherm Pendley) wrote:
I need donations to CamelBones. Or web hosting customers. Or
consulting clients. Or a plain old-fashioned job. Or something - and
I need it soon.
Have you considered a P
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:44:00AM -0700, Chris Nandor wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sherm Pendley) wrote:
>
> > I need donations to CamelBones. Or web hosting customers. Or
> > consulting clients. Or a plain old-fashioned job. Or something - and
> > I need it
I need donations to CamelBones. Or web hosting customers. Or
consulting clients. Or a plain old-fashioned job. Or something - and
I need it soon.
Hi Sherm,
I have some work for you. I use ruby and the mechanize object to
pull down pages off the web and parse them. There is a lot of
my
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sherm Pendley) wrote:
> I need donations to CamelBones. Or web hosting customers. Or
> consulting clients. Or a plain old-fashioned job. Or something - and
> I need it soon.
Have you considered a Perl Foundation Grant? Surely this is more w
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:25:49PM +0100, Alex Robinson wrote:
> Why did the OS X loving bit of
> the perl community sit by and let PyObjC become the default bridge.
Because the vast majority of perl people who moved to OS X did so
because it was Unix That
I need donations to CamelBones. Or web hosting customers. Or consulting
clients. Or a plain old-fashioned job. Or something - and I need it soon.
Good luck Sherm. I wish I had work I could punt your way. I wish even
more that Apple had picked you up and made CamelBones a first class
citizen.
On May 6, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Alex Robinson wrote:
I wish even more that Apple had picked you up and made CamelBones a
first class citizen.
Good news: That may still happen.
So, why has Apple ignored CamelBones?
They asked around internally for "sponsor" engineers to accept the
job of rev
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