wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it .
pauses at the end of each line lol
On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James Nash wrote:
They've released 10.6.1 already?
- Original Message -
From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com
To:
Hey, I'd like to hear about everyone's experience of iTunes 9. I've
been having some problems with some bugs, and am wondering if these
are actual bugs, or I'm just doing something wrong.
First off, I cannot arrow through the songs as I could in Leopard
with the older iTunes. When I am in
great question and suggestion. tell apple through their accessibility
section. Take care, Max
On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to
have a
triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you
I've not found any info on the update being released. From what I read from
articles yesterday the update is still being seeded to developers. Apple
have said that after you install the update you can go to the What's New in
VO help.
Take care
James
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From:
The market audience for the iPhone is 99% sighted and sadly they have more
clout. I understand your point, it is a big step in the right direction.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a
Hey, I am definitely experiencing the same thing, and haven't seen any
improvements with this in iTunes 9. has anyone gotten this to work?
This is starting to bug the heck out of me!
Howard Dupuis wrote:
I'll betcha that this -- and many other iTunes problems -- will be
fixed later today with
i downloaded a ten meg file off software update
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From: James Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
I've not found any info on
I'm having difficulty figuring out how to place applications on the Desktop
and on the Dock. I've read and reread the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide
and cannot figure out how to do this. AT the very least, I'd like the Hard
Drive on my desktop. I also was playing with TextEdit, but could only
Yep, for those still lagging behind :)
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Oh okay. I read that the 10.6.1 update would be about 75 MB. So I don't know
what that is? Ay improvements?
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From: will lomaswill...@googlemail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was
It seems that it was released yesterday. As per usual, there is no mention
of VO but fixes in Mail are mentioned as is the Flash issue.
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Hi Les,
To access your applications folder, press command shift A, then go
down to text edit, then open it.
To place it in the dock, press VO D as in control option D, then find
the open text edit icon. once there, just press the down arrow and a
contextual menu will come up, from which
It's very much that hard though if you don't happen to have a copy of
iTunes handy, I'm thinking people who want to test run the iPhone in a
shop or borrow their buddy's iPhone to demonstrate an app or perhaps
just show off. You might say it's an unlikely scenario and you'd
probably be right,
If yo go to the Finder menu, you'll find what your looking for in Finder's
Preferences
- Original Message -
From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Setting Up Access to the Hard drive and
Hello Les,
First of all, you can select what appears on your Desktop by opening
Finder Preferences (Command-comma) and checking the items under the
General tab.
Secondly, keeping applications on the Desktop is not the Mac way of
doing things. We have the Dock for that. When an application
Hi again.
I have found out how to choose language. It worked after a restart.
Best regards Annie.
2009/9/11, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com:
Hi again.
Thank you to all. I have a few more questions. I have only used mac
for about a month, so I still have a lot to learn.
True, but I agree with Chris, here. If you could just turn it on with the
tripple press of Home,, every blind/vi user could walk out of the store with
their iphone speaking. I think this would be a very nice feature.
Donna
-Original Message-
From: william lomas
Yeah, but sighted customers would never even have to know this feature existed.
It wouldn't impact their useage in any way.
Donna
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re:
Good point Donna. I never looked at it from that position. Maybe Apple
will get enough feedback and add this feature to their next update.
The steps Apple has taken have been great for blind and low vision
folks, but you have to remeber that Rome wasn't built in a day and
baby steps are far
Out off the boox you turrn VO on in iTunes
I have some sight and love the new feature.
Camera now works great.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:08, Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com
wrote:
Good point Donna. I never looked at it from that position. Maybe
Apple will get
Hi Les,
You've already had a number of good replies on this topic, so I'll add
my comments to Yuma's instructions. The basic tool for accessing files
and applications on the Mac is Finder, and when you start up your
computer, Finder will be running. It will be the only application
Hi Jonathan,
If I change my shell from bash to one that supports environment
variables like tcsh, then issuing a setenv command in terminal shows
there is a LANG environment variable:
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
Mac OS X lets you launch applications with a switch for the language
localization
Hi Donna,
I think the problem is that sighted users also use the triple click of
the home button. It just does something else for them on the iPhone.
(Not sure about this though)
Cheers,
Esther
Donna Goodin wrote:
Yeah, but sighted customers would never even have to know this
I did try that one as I recall and it didn't fly.
That was a long time ago though, maybe it has improved.
Best,
erik burggraaf
A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
On 10-Sep-09, at 4:34 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
This one seems
Oh, definitely! I just figure it's probably worth writing to
accessibility to suggest it for a future update.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
Good point Donna. I never looked at it from that position. Maybe
Apple will get enough feedback and add this
Hi Esther,
From the info that went out re the update, it didn't sound like they
did. If so, that of course changes the issue.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Esther wrote:
Hi Donna,
I think the problem is that sighted users also use the triple click
of the home button. It
Let me just say on the Windows side of things, the problem you describe with
the list view not reading has been present sense 8.2. I dono what the deal
is, but Apple's really starting to piss? me off! They told me the same?
garbage, that o, we aren't having thiws problem either. Go get someone
Hi all,
Sorry to have to ask this. I've done it on my PC, but not on my Mac.
How do I tell itunes to restore my phone to factory defaults. I'm
trying to get it to sync only with my Mac. I've VOed around, and don't
see a tab for it, I've also looked in the menus. Appreciate any help.
I agree with you. i personally don't like ITunes, and although Apple have
done a fantastic job there are other issues which they have not yet fixed
which I feel should be addressed However, in their defense, the
Accessibility team at Apple is very small and we are not after all Apple's
The songs list don't work in windows either, and as I said, when I wrote
them, they were not very helpful. One rep even went as far as to say, why
should we help you if you're not using our product. I'm like egg, ***ing
skeuze me? I'm using ITunes, that's? your product! Thank you very
I would have to disagree. The I phone is designed for the general
population. by removing one of the gestures you are there by
removing some of the sighted users accessability. we are a limited
population and by making voiceover available by means of I tunes it
maximizes accessability
Is there a tripple click cmd for non VO users?
I have a sighted friend who uses VO while driving.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:36, peter apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote:
I would have to disagree. The I phone is designed for the general
population. by removing one of the
Hi,
Just to add my two cents worth, my favorite way of navigating in
Finder is to press the shortcut key that gets me closest to what I
want, such as Command-Shift-C for Computer or Command-Shift-H for
Home, interacting with the scroll area in list view, and using Command
and Up or Down
Hi,
I installed the update last night. There were two, one for the OS and
one for printer drivers. The total was around 120 MB if I remember
right. I just checked out the What's New section of VO help, but
didn't see anything specific to this update. It looks to me like the
documentation
Wait a minute here. What I was referring to -- and I think this is
what the original poster meant, too -- are things that used to work
but now do not. Before Snow Leopard, I could go to the playlist
browser, interact with it, and then just use the down arrow *or* hit a
key to take me down the
Thanks for the clarification Anna. Nice ot see that the ouse cursor issue
might be fixed. How is the reading of messages with VO now?
Take care
James
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From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009
Hi,
I thought I figured out a way to pick a particular artist from the
playlist browser, but when I went back and tried again, it didn't
work. The method I tried involved stopping interacting with the column
browser, typing a few letters, arrowing around a bit, and starting to
interact
Hi all,
When I imported my contacts over from my PC, I used VCards. Now, as
I'm looking in the address book, I noticed that there are these lines
of XML junk characters presumably inserted By Windows. Anyone know
how I can get rid of this stuff?
Thanks,
Donna
Hi James,
Messages are reading automatically when I press VO-J so far. We'll see
what happens when I run Fusion and Windows. Seems like that function
usually broke when I switched between Windows and Mac programs. Not
always, but more consistently than any other correlation I could find.
Hi everyone.
Can someone please tell me how I go about creating folders on my mac? I want
to move all my school stuff to my mac machine but can't figure out how to make
folders and for that matter where they are, smile.
Also, how do I delete a file I created? I tried pressing delete on the
Hi May,
To create a new folder, open the folder in which you want your new one
and press Command-Shift-N, type a folder name, and press Return. To
delete a file or folder, focus on it and press Command-Delete.
Remember that the key the mac calls Delete is called Backspace in
Windows.
Yes, that part I do remember, thanks. Is a little confusing still for me at
the moment, but I'm getting there.
May, now using my MacBook
- Original Message -
From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:18 AM
Hello
One thing I can say is that the tab key sort of works under the mac.
The thing about it is that it is not disabled, but that it is just not
working with vo. This goes back to the issue of the broken cursor
tracking in iTunes. The keyboard cursor is moving through the lists,
its
Thanks, Justin. This will make it easier to explain what's going on
when I send my note to accessibil...@apple.com. It probably also
explains why sometimes the arrows and tab key seem to do something and
sometimes they don't.
Best,
Anna
On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Justin Harford
Hi all,
Is there a way in itunes to here podcasts faster? I've searched and
have not found a way to speed them up.
Thanks,
C;hristina
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Hi,
I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what
someone was replying to. NOw how do I get it to show all tweets again?
I tried choosing Timeline, choosing Refresh, and choosing Bring all to
front, none of which had any effect.
Thanks,
Anna
hi;
use escape
mike
On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi,
I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what
someone was replying to. NOw how do I get it to show all tweets again?
I tried choosing Timeline, choosing Refresh, and choosing Bring all to
Hi Mike,
It's easy to forget to try the obvious. Thanks a lot.
Best,
Anna
On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:54 PM, michael A. Babcock wrote:
hi;
use escape
mike
On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi,
I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what
hi;
no problem
mike
On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi Mike,
It's easy to forget to try the obvious. Thanks a lot.
Best,
Anna
On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:54 PM, michael A. Babcock wrote:
hi;
use escape
mike
On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Woody Anna Dresner
You just tought me! something! I didn't know f6 would jump me between the
fields in Itunes 9 on windows. God, that's gonna make my life easier, if it
works!
Chris.
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Hello all,
For some reason I cannot send email from the mac on either of my mail accounts.
I have checked the settings for both accounts several times, and they both
appear to be correct. The error message I am getting is something to the
effect of: Cannot send email address from server
Have you upgraded to 0.6.1? There was a bug in outgoing mail that
Apple fixed with this update.
Go to the apple menu and find software update.
Jon
On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Hello all,
For some reason I cannot send email from the mac on either of my
mail
how did you import your contacts over? I'm still trying to figure that
out lol.
On 2009-09-11, at 12:04 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Hi all,
When I imported my contacts over from my PC, I used VCards. Now, as
I'm looking in the address book, I noticed that there are these lines
of XML junk
Hi John,
Yes I did the upgrade and that didn't help.
I've had one account that has never worked. Unfortunately, that's my work
account, which puts a real big crimp in my ability to use the Mac for work
stuff. The problem with the other account started this afternoon when I
accidentally
Well, I'm not sure I'd recommend doing it the way I did. :) After a lot of
mucking around in Outlook--I'm using Outlook 2007--I found a way to export as
VCard. It's kind of hidden, and I'm not sure I could recreate it. But like I
said, I got all this XML in my address book.
I would
Sorry folks, just checking, seems all of a sudden I'm not getting messages from
this list.
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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:22 PM
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Sorry folks, just checking, seems all of a sudden I'm not getting messages
from
Hi all:
Another bug in the new iTunes.
When creating a new playlist, the Songs list table isn't shown and
there's a line of text that tells you to drag your selections.
Any work arounds to this? In previous versions of iTunes, you could go
command A to select the songs you want to add, command C
Hi,
I installed Thunderbird on my Windows machine, imported all my mail
into it, then copied the folder containing the mail to my Mac and used
its import options to import from thunderbird. I did more or less the
same thing with my address book, but there was an additional step of
saving
Hi folks,
As I have said before, for my daily computing needs I use a standard
account. however, I have a question.
Is there a way of disabling the request by Mac OS X which brings up a
dialogue to enter an admin username and password when wanting to effect
system changes please? I'm asking
Hi,
Thanks to the comment earlier about focus changing when you move
around the Column Browser but VO not being aware of it, I found a way
to locate an artist you want by typing a few letters. It's a bit
tedious, but it works consistently.
1. Go to the View menu and ensure that at least
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So it's not just me, and I'm not just crazy? In the version of Itunes
before this, all I had to do was tab into the browser, to the field I
wanted, hit the first few letters, use plain down or up arrows to do
the fine tuning. I don't see this as being more VO friendly, and I
want my old
hi the 10.6.1 update was only ten megabytes for me and
according to
my system i up to date
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I have not upgraded my itunes yet. I don't plan to at this time. So,
this is just a thought and I do not know if this works. What about
using the item chooser menu to find the son/artist you are looking for
in the songs table. vo plus i Then type the first letters of the
artist or
Hi James,
You always have to authorize system changes from an admin user
account. If you perform system updates, and are using an account with
admin privileges, you'll be prompted to enter your password. If you
perform maintenance tasks through commands issued from terminal (even
from
That was a great idea. Unfortunately, I just tried it and it doesn't
produce intelligible results. VO just says Scroll area, and won't
let me interact or find anything else out.
Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
My home page:
Oh, gee, I didn't even think of an Apple Script. Yeah, it's always in
Notes, and I've been editing it out manually.
Thanks!
Donna
On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Is the XML in a consistent place? If so, an AppleScript could easily
fix it...
Jon
On Sep 11, 2009, at
Thanks for this. One point, if I may: This is an issue with Snow
Leopard, not with iTunes. Note the following (my original post) begun
fully nine days before the new iTunes became available.
shoot! Being able to just start typing and having the cursor jump
where I want to go has been a huge helper and so it's hard to imagine
itunes without it. Hm
On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
That was a great idea. Unfortunately, I just tried it and it
You can have both flavors in your library other than taking up a pile of
space. I have an iPhone, not an iPod, but I assume they handle the same
stuff. I generally encode to MP3 instead of AAC since that is more
portable outside the Apple ecosphere. You can pick a set of files and
then choose
Hi,
I have just bought Time Capsule and started setting up.
Time machine has found TC and backs up no problem.
However should I be seeing Time capsule in my finder as a volume so I can get
in to it and go through its file structures etc.
I also want to run my Itunes library from Time
I've only had snow leopard installed for a couple of days, so I'm still
learning the ins and outs of it. Thus far, however, I haven't noticed any
perceptible difference in features or the way it behaves.
On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:05 PM, claire amoroso wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know if there are any
Three ways I've found to get there.
1. The way I use most is apple-shift-a to open the applications folder
and then type s a f which jumps focus to Safari and then apple-o to open
it. You can do this with any application or use apple-shift-u to go to
utilities.
2. VO-d to jump to the dock and
I have noticed a problem for me since I upgraded to SL. Maybe someone
here has a fix. I used to be able to use command plus option plus
control plus 8 to switch between white on black and black on white.
Now I cannot get that keyboard shortcut to do a thing. I really can't
see much but
I am running Leopard, and have the same issue; doesn't this make it
more an Itunes bug?
Mark BurningHawk Baxter
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I still get the problem of vo stoping at the end of each line rather
then at the end of a sentencde. I have found some other things as
well but that is cloming in another message.
Matthew
On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:01 AM, william lomas wrote:
wonder if any voice over issues as in mail
Hi Esther,
Thank you for the confirmation. Yes, I know that about Unix/Linux, in fact,
when I was in my regular account i wanted to test if it actually worked.
When I entered sudo update, it informed me that I did not have the
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posted a
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On 11 Sep 2009, at 18:41, Christina wrote:
Hi all,
Is there a way in itunes to here podcasts faster? I've searched and
have not found a way to speed them up.
Thanks,
C;hristina
Yes, thanks. I knew how to fast forward and rewind but is there a way
to make the playback speed faster or slower? When I listen to
audiobooks on my victor stream I can speed up the playback in order to
get through books quicker, I was wondering if there was a way to do
this in itunes.
Hi Esther,
According to Mac oS X help, Standard users should only be able to install
software for their own accounts. Having just tried to run my test with my
admin details and found out that I am able to install Software Updates is
concerning. This included a Mac OS X Combined update which
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Hello,
The title of this post states it best; now, using http://www.vmware.com/
VM Ware's Fusion, you can
It works fine for me when VoiceOver is not running. When it is, you just have
to hit VO-Tab first to let the command pass through.
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Awesome! Thanks, that worked. I'm so glad to be able to do that. :)
How long does that vo plus tab stay in effect? Do I have to turn it
off or anything?
On Sep 11, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Mueller, Matt wrote:
It works fine for me when VoiceOver is not running. When it is, you
just have to
It stays in effect only for the next keystroke (or keystroke
combination if that is the case). VoiceOver ignores it and lets it go
to the active app or the operating system. After that, it interprets
them as usual. You don't have to turn it back off.
On Sep 11, 2009, at 6:27 PM,
Hi Chris, settle on the menu item you'd like to read, and then do
VO w twice quickly.
HTH and have a great Fri eve!
Smiles,
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On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:12 AM,
Hi guys, I'm pretty sure I won't break anything heren but... Sighs
when I went to install snowleppard today I got an install button much
earlier in the process than I expected. I was hoping for a backup and
install option so I could save my data and settings, but all I got was
That's right. It is set to automatically install as an upgrade to
what you have. You won't lose anything.
Justin
On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi guys, I'm pretty sure I won't break anything heren but... Sighs
when I went to install snowleppard today I got an
Hi Eric,
I hit that install button, Snow Leopard was installed, and all my data
and programs were fine. The only thing that disappeared was Sound
Source, presumably because that version doesn't work with Snow Leopard.
HTH,
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On Sep 9, 2009, at 4:20 AM, dannyboy wrote:
Will vm ware's fusion work with snow leopard?
There were some on a forum claiming it might not.
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Hi everyone. I need some assistance. I'm using text edit with lepard and I
would like to know if there's a way to have two different files open at once?
I'm trying to read a document and take notes and don't want to have to keep
closing one to get to the other.
May, now using my MacBook
May, when you have the first doc open, simply then open the second.
To navigate between them, use command ` (key to the left of the 1)
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Ah, thank you so very much. That makes things a lot easier.
May, now using my MacBook
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May, when you have the first doc open, simply
You can either open all the do documents one at a time with command O,
which will open them all at once, then cycle through them with command
Accent while in Textedit. Or you can open textedit first and use
repeated instances of command O to do the same thing. Command Accent
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