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Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. Yes, I was going to point out how well the mac and Ios devices
integrate with the mac. Not to mention in my oppinion itunes and vo work
much better than itunes and jaws or nvda. I did try to use nvda full time
just
, or not? The learning curve seems very steep to me, and
I've tried searching for podcasts and documentation.
Anita
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From: Donna Goodin
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
Hi
.
Anita
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From: Donna Goodin
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
Hi Shannon,
I've been using a Mac for four years, and I was surprised to see that
comment. Frankly
for almost a year so would seem that they’re due for
an updated version here in the near future.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
From: Maria Joe Chapman
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 3:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. I
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Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. I didn't bother with the trial version I just bought it.
Don't know if that makes a difference or not.
Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute
HI. Yes, I was going to point out how well the mac and Ios devices integrate
with the mac. Not to mention in my oppinion itunes and vo work much better
than itunes and jaws or nvda. I did try to use nvda full time just before I
switched but the tts didn't sound right not when using sapi.
: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. Yes, I was going to point out how well the mac and Ios devices integrate
with the mac. Not to mention in my oppinion itunes and vo work much better
than itunes and jaws or nvda. I did try to use nvda full time just before I
switched but the tts didn't
Of Shannon Gerdts
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 6:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
Hello all,
Again thanks so much for all your prompt responses on this issue. The
last thing I guess we have to ask is just if anyone knows how mac goes
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. Yes, I was going to point out how well the mac and Ios devices
integrate with the mac. Not to mention in my oppinion itunes and vo work
much better than itunes and jaws or nvda. I did try to use nvda full
that they’re due for
an updated version here in the near future.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
From: Maria Joe Chapman
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 3:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. I didn't bother with the trial version I
out relatively soon.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
From: Maria Joe Chapman
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. Yes, I was going to point out how well the mac and Ios devices
integrate
out if the new macbook is coming out relatively soon.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
From: Maria Joe Chapman
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. Yes, I was going to point out how well the mac
HI. I've owned my mac for over a year now. I do run a vm from time to time
but am finding less and less need to go in to windows. It did take me a while
to learn, but the thing I love about the mac is that it just seems to work. No
laggie pauses when you hit a key and wait for 5 seconds for
through the rough spots.
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From: Maria Joe Chapman
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. I've owned my mac for over a year now. I do run a vm from time to time
help me through the rough spots.
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From: Maria Joe Chapman
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. I've owned my mac for over a year now. I do run a vm from time
now for almost a year so would seem that they’re due for an
updated version here in the near future.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
From: Maria Joe Chapman
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 3:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. I didn't
for
an updated version here in the near future.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
From: Maria Joe Chapman
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 3:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
HI. I didn't bother with the trial version I just bought
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
Hi Shannon,
I've been using a Mac for four years, and I was surprised to see that
comment. Frankly, I think that you can tell that Voiceover is integrated
Hi. I got my Mac over 2 years ago, it'll be 3 this November. I pretty much got
adjusted to the Mac the day I got it. Funny story about it, the first day I
purchased this thing, I sold my PC. I was like I don't need it anymore. I
think the reason why for some people the Mac is harder to use with
Any tool that accomplishes the tasks that are desired or required is a valid
tool. For me, if I had to do heavy wordprocessing, I would prefer Windows. But
that's just me. Although insofar as I know, the Mac is an incredibility well
built machine, it does have rather a high price tag. Financial
One thing that makes the price issue more interesting is that the
really expensive windows screen readers are rarely needed anymore. For
95 percent of the users, system access or NVDA will more than suffice.
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Any tool that accomplishes the tasks that are desired or required is
What version of Windows does the Mac support?
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From: Richard Ring
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
Any tool that accomplishes the tasks that are desired
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anita
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 12:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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What version of Windows does the Mac support?
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From: Richard Ring mailto:richr
Message-
From: Red.Falcon
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
Hi all!
Now I'm not sure if this is good or bad!
But from what I understand new Mac's have to be bought with everything you
think you
- From: Red.Falcon
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
Hi all!
Now I'm not sure if this is good or bad!
But from what I understand new Mac's have to be bought with everything you
think you might need
. It helps me so that I can
make an educated decision.
Kellie and Loki
-Original Message- From: Red.Falcon
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
Hi all!
Now I'm not sure if this is good
Hi Kelly. I don't know what your friend was talking about, but you can indeed
use a screen reader for Windows if you virtualize it. On my VM of XP, I have
System Access, NVDA and Window-Eyes and they work with no problems. As for
sluggishness, I don't experience any because I made sure that I
Well, I think my point still stands, 1995 aside.
Any computer system will eventually present hardware limitations. But I know
of plenty of people with Macs four years old, in fact, my mom's Mac is 9 years
old, and she's only now looking at replacing it. I think in general Macs are
more
Hi,
There is no such thing as a perfect solution when dealing with accessibility
for computers. Windows and Mac have their advantages and disadvantages.
There is really no point comparing Windows with Mac. They are completely
different for a screen reader user. The OS is very different as
Well really, I think the mac is amazingly better than windows. First of all,
the screen reader is far more advanced than anything microsoft could make, and
it supports braille right away. Also, the tts is far superior to anything else
I've ever heard. And as soon as the audio game devs get
I bought my Mac about two months ago, at the same time, I got rid of my Windows
computer totally. Not very long thereafter, my fiancé got her mac. Okay, she
still wants to chuck it threw a wall from time to time, but that phase is also
passing now.
The mac to me, is more intuitive, it seems
Hi,
I think one advantage is, she will have a choice if she decides to get a Mac.
She could run Windows on bootcamp and have a full windows experience if she so
chose. I know my next comment is pretty subjective but, I believe the Mac
offers superior build quality compared to most Windows
Hi Mary,
yes indeed it is. The upgrade cycle for mobile devices are 4 times as fast as
desktops and laptops. If you by the latest and greatest laptop or desktop, you
can be reasonably assured, that system will run any OS or, application with a
few exceptions for the next 5 years. A mobile
Hi all!
Now I'm not sure if this is good or bad!
But from what I understand new Mac's have to be bought with everything you
think you might need because you cannot upgrade them yourselves I might be
wrong!
But as far as this one goes 4 and a half years old and only looked at by apple
once
I switched to the Mac nearly 2 years ago. It was a pretty stressful decision
for me, because of the change in screen reader, and the amount of money I would
be spending.
I'll say for the first few Months, I found the learning curve and getting
accustom to things was a struggle. I'd find
actually, there is a perfect solution, give up computers completely lo.
On 2013-04-04, at 2:18 AM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
There is no such thing as a perfect solution when dealing with accessibility
for computers. Windows and Mac have their advantages and
Hello list,
I'm a new subscriber as of today and would like to ask this direct
question without getting a lot of elitest Mac/Windows mentalities. What I
mean by this is I would love to get some feedback from you guys on the list
about an unbiased bit of feedback on your experiences with
Hello.
Welcome to the group.
I have had a Mac for almost two years although I still use windows at work and
at home on my Mac at home, although not a lot.
I think there is a place for all platforms, it really depends on what you want
to do.
I love my I Mac not just because of Voice Over, but
Well, if you have iOS devices there are more advantages, since things like
contacts, notes, calendars, and more sync to all your devices. You can, for
instance, do a lot of typing in reminders or contacts on the mac, and then the
changes will appear on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch.
I'll
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
Well, if you have iOS devices there are more advantages, since things like
contacts, notes, calendars, and more sync to all your devices. You can, for
instance, do a lot of typing in reminders or contacts on the mac
Hi Shannon,
It seems to me that the question of switching to a Mac from Windows is a little
more involved than just looking at the fact that a laptop quit after 3 or 4
years. Given the cost difference between Windows and Mac laptops, your
prospective purchase of a Mac would have to last you
Hello,
I will do my best to chime in on this subject.
I used windows since 1995 in college and 1998 at home. I found the switch fro
Windows to Mac rather arduous because my computer had a couple not serious
issues and I didn't have training (I hadn't found this list yet) Once the
learning
compared to windows/jaws. Windows just has alot more choices for accessible
programs than does the Mac.
- Original Message -
From: Shannon Gerdts bambam...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:36 PM
Subject: Serious question about Mac vs
One thing I would add is that I feel like having Voiceover integrated into the
IOS is a huge advantage in terms of smoothness of operation. I've used Windows
with JAWS since 1995. Since July 2009 I've use a Mac at home, and most of the
time Windows at work. I agree with the person who said
I must agree with Donna here. May I also add that even when a program in the
Mac freezes, it doesn't cause the whole system to lose speech as windows does.
I also like that when a program is doing something, we hear busy or ready
when it is completed.
On 2013-04-03, at 2:30 PM, Donna Goodin
Hi there
Personally, I like TextEdit and pages better than I like in this word. This is
because MS Word offers me more options that I want to deal with. When I made
the switch, I had choices because I am self-employed, and I could call my
customer and tell her that I was Changing and therefore,
In my opinion it is very worth it. Every computer has hiccups and problems but
the Mac seems to have far fewer. But don't think that once you get it that it
will be the same as a windows machine. You will get frustrated with it and want
to smash it with a hammer at first but keep with it and
I'm the same way, I have a windows 7 computer for those rare times I use it
which I do as it's connected to the tv and that is how we watch tv.
On 2013-04-03, at 2:59 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
Hi there
Personally, I like TextEdit and pages better than I like in this word. This
Hi Donna,
You know, it is also possible to get stuck behind the no upgrade 8-ball with a
Mac. It isn't the screen reader, it is the hardware at issue, and then you have
to go spend a whole lot more than 200 bucks to get the latest screen reader
features that are only available with the new os.
Well, but that's true of any computer system. If you tried to put Windows 8 on
a computer you bought in 1995 you would have a problem. :) But for Mac, you
9only have to contend with the hardware, not the hardware and the screen reader.
On Apr 3, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com
Nobody said anything about a computer bought in 1995. The original question had
to do with a laptop that broke after 3-4 years, and the person wasn't too happy
and was considering a Mac. Since upgrades to the screen reader are tied to the
os on a Mac, if your Mac is too old to get the new
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