RE: Voice Over for Snow Leopard

2009-09-24 Thread Michael Busboom
] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Wednesday, 23 September, 2009 16:13 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard Hi, I should also mention that a number of people received a copy of the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Snow Leopard in RTF format. There was also

Voice Over for Snow Leopard

2009-09-23 Thread Michael Busboom
Hi everyone, Does anybody know if the Voice Over manual for Snow Leopard is available in either HTML or vanilla ASCII? Come to think of it, how does one listen to the Voice Over manual from within the utility? I didn't find it when clicking on the Help option. Thanks in advance for any

Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard

2009-09-23 Thread Esther
Michael Busboom wrote: Does anybody know if the Voice Over manual for Snow Leopard is available in either HTML or vanilla ASCII? Come to think of it, how does one listen to the Voice Over manual from within the utility? I didn’t find it when clicking on the Help option. I found

RE: Voice Over for Snow Leopard

2009-09-23 Thread Michael Busboom
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard Michael Busboom wrote: Does anybody know if the Voice Over manual for Snow Leopard is available in either HTML or vanilla ASCII? Come to think of it, how does one listen to the Voice Over manual from within the utility? I

Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard

2009-09-23 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Michael, The Getting STarted guide is also the last option on the Help menu accessed with VO-H. When you select this option, it opens as an HTML file in Safari. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard

2009-09-23 Thread Esther
Hi, I should also mention that a number of people received a copy of the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Snow Leopard in RTF format. There was also a note this guide was posted on a user's MobileMe public site: http://idisk.mac.com/davidw9-Public?view=web

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-10 Thread Jenny Kennedy
@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard HI, No. The older Macbooks used to have a built-in Numpad overlay. The external numpads and esktop keyboard number pads still work in Leopard. Regards, Alex, On 9-Jul-09, at 7:06 AM, James

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Jenny Kennedy
. - Original Message - From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader support in refreshable

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread kaare dehard
Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
simon.cavend...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope Snow Leopard

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread James Nash
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard HI, They scrapped the number pad on the Macbooks,, but as far as anythingelse, I have not heard anyting. Regards, Alex, On 9-Jul-09, at 2:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Jenny, what gave

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
why I'm going to purchase a new one. - Original Message - From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread James Nash
Ah ok i understand now tahnk you James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen asquare...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard HI, No. The older Macbooks used to have a built-in Numpad overlay

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Jenny Kennedy
- Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen asquare...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard HI, No. The older Macbooks used to have a built-in Numpad overlay. The external numpads and esktop keyboard

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com wrote: Ah ok i understand now tahnk you James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen asquare...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard HI, No. The older

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread william lomas
the synthesizer technology they use is not their own anyways in the ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance On 8 Jul 2009, at 06:48, Justin Harford wrote: Alex wrote: What I meant is that I felt that someone made a comment of something that only insiders would know. It was not

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread Justin Harford
Alex wrote: anyways in the ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance Umm… is this English that you are writing to me? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash
: Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard Exactly. I am not going to trouble myself feeling discriminated against over this, and particularly against the only computer/ electronics company

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread James Nash
: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard Alex wrote: anyways in the ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance Umm. is this English that you are writing to me? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread william lomas
Message - From: Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard Alex wrote: anyways in the ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance Umm. is this English that you are writing to me

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
i doubt we get new voices except maybe the ones found in the i phone. I am going to wait to upgrade i think, what I have now works fine. UPgrading won't give us for example, access to flash content so no point in me upgrading since a lot of sites I use, require flash navigation which

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so unreal, it doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are other reasons beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that $30 is a very small price to pay for the improvements and many of which you may not have

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so unreal, it doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are other reasons beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that $30 is a very

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so unreal, it doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are other reasons beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that $30 is a very small price to pay

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash
Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard is there a complete list of new features? i.e. .do we get new language voices i wonder . new braille support in other alnguages? etc i guess we will not know these details really until the product is out On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:29, James Nash wrote: Hi

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
care James - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard is there a complete list of new features? i.e. .do we get new language voices i wonder

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash
: Voice Over in Snow Leopard voiceover for the i pods and i phones are in other languages but didn't read it in snowleopard On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:50, James Nash wrote: Well on the Snow Leopard page there is a host of different features. Yes, I think I remember reading that something

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread kaare dehard
From what I have read, all the keyboard functionality will be available in snow-leopard the same ways you have access in leopard, but you probably won't have access to the touchpad commander. On 6-Jul-09, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
James, as best I understand, it is not going to be an upgrade disc, but a full version. When reading the info that is available, it does not state that you must have an existing copy of Leopard. On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:29 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi, It sounds like Snow Leopard is an upgrade.

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
. Take care James - Original Message - From: Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so unreal, it doesn't make much

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
this should not be too difficult. Take care James - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard is there a complete list of new features? i.e. .do we

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I am a low vision user and I was wondering if anyone has heard if there will be an upgrade to the full screen magnifier. I know in windows when you are using a program like Zoomtext

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Barry Lipscomb
James - Original Message - From: Barry Lipscomb barr...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I am a low vision user and I was wondering if anyone has heard if there will be an upgrade to the full screen

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Simon Cavendish
...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard is there a complete list of new features? i.e. .do we get new language voices i wonder . new braille support in other alnguages? etc i guess we will not know

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash
: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Dietz
Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us who would benefit from it. It would certainly accelerate my

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
to purchase a new one. - Original Message - From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
Windows for things but I do miss Mac. That's why I'm going to purchase a new one. - Original Message - From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen
...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope Snow Leopard is going

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash
: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard fair enough though we are all blind and have a right to know what will be included in my view On 7 Jul 2009, at 19:11, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, Red flag, We are moving into grey ares. Please keep the posts NDA

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Josh de Lioncourt
No one has the right to break the law. We will all know what to expect in Snow Leopard when all the information is made public. Being blind is also not an excuse for breaking the law. This is just a matter of breaking NDA contracts because of a few people's impatience. No one is making

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
:15 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard fair enough though we are all blind and have a right to know what will be included in my view On 7 Jul 2009, at 19:11, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, Red flag, We are moving into grey ares. Please keep the posts NDA compliant. Thanks

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash
Hi Justin, Is there anywhere that I can hear a sample of these synthesizers please? Take care James - Original Message - From: Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard Hmm

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
? Take care James - Original Message - From: Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard Hmm, I just went over the snow leopard description and it is true that it makes

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash
Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard we don't even know if they are to be included. if and i mean if they were, they will be i assume the ones

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
need to create two separate accounts? One for French and one for English? James - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard we don't even

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
. That's why I'm going to purchase a new one. - Original Message - From: Simon Cavendish simon.cavend...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
simon.cavend...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope Snow

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Nash
We did however get a sample of Alex back when Leopard first came out. - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard i agree, even a small five

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope Snow Leopard is going

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen
PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us who would benefit from it. It would certainly

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen
:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us who would benefit from it. It would certainly

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
Alex wrote: There was Snow Leopard and Leopard accessibility demonstrations at WWDC both years according to Apple. They just weren't in the main keynote I guess. You guess? I just watched a WWDC on snowleopard and saw zero (0) accessibility demonstration. Sure they mentioned it

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
Alex wrote: What I meant is that I felt that someone made a comment of something that only insiders would know. It was not something that Apple made public. OK OK fair enough. I suppose there is a marginal possibility that apple will defy all logic and not introduce the synthesizer

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-06 Thread Claude Renaud
Hello James, Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: JN Hi everyone, JN I've been reading the new VO features in Snow Leopard. Where di you read this please ? Regards, -- Claude Renaud --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-06 Thread Jenny Kennedy
Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is the only line that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in April of 08 and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been waiting for SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this sort of macbook? Oh I'm sure the os

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-06 Thread Scott Bresnahan
Hi, Snow Leopard will work quite nicely on any Intel Mac, including any MacBook, white or Al. And, how quickly we forget. The most powerful Macs out there are the desktop MacPros that don't have the little trackpad thingy. So yes, VO will work via the old stand by, tethered technology of

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-06 Thread Jenny Kennedy
Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A little bummed I don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the iPhone demos and gestures just sound so cool and fun. I guess I'll just put up with old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future and will be happy to wait 'til

Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-05 Thread James Nash
Hi everyone, I've been reading the new VO features in Snow Leopard. However, I've heard that the new gestures feature only works on a MacBook Pro is this true? Does anyone have any idea how many of the new VO features will work on a MacBook as I don't really like the idea of an in-built

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-05 Thread Scott Howell
James, only in MacBooks with the multi-touch trackpad, which at this point is the Pro line. I wouldn't worry to much about the battery honestly. If you have a store or authorized service center near you, it is very easy to change the battery if necessary. Actually you could replace it