Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-28 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Well if there was a good braille support on the mac then we will have what we have in many other screenReaders for Windows and Linux. On the mac i can not navigate indipendently from the speech. So a deaf-blind has a hard thing to resolve. Actually since i began to use my mac i have been more

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-28 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Braille In my Opinion is just a shame on the mac. And i really don’t know how we can get it better. I’ve been having a mac now since November 2011 and nothing has happend since the day i got my mac. The only great thing for a braille user on the mac is that you can if you have an Index

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-28 Thread Tim Kilburn
rlds. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:51 AM > Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? > > >> Here are my r

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-28 Thread Joshua Tubbs
d track pad, > getting the best of both worlds. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message ----- From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:51 AM > Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac B

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-28 Thread Joshua Tubbs
t; I am use to everything, I expect I will use both keyboard and track pad, >> getting the best of both worlds. >> >> Arnold Schmidt >> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-28 Thread Mike Arrigo
ne 27, 2016 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the Windows world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen reader is built in to the operating system. I think you said you were using a mac mini, you

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-28 Thread Devin Prater
My problem with braille support is that braille doesn’t show formatting information, and my Vario Ultra can connect via Bluetooth, but not USB, although that might change in Sierra but I’m not getting my hopes up. If you read my Message with braille, you won’t find any italics signs or anything

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread E.T.
Duxbury has promised an OS X version for 2-3 years. I have no idea if there has been any progress at all. If you ask them, they will probably repeat what I was told, We are working on it. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 6/27/2016 3:02

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Larry Thacker Jr.
The problem, as far as I know, isn’t with support for braille displays. From what I have heard that is indeed good. I don’t have one. The issue is that there is no full-featured brail publishing program such as Duxbury for the Mac. For even casual brail translation, if you want other people

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Ben J. Bloomgren
Scott and all, if you don't mind my asking, how is Braille the weak point of OSX? I'll have to vehemently disagree with you hereon, and here's why. I have an older Focus 40 USB Braille display, and I took it down to North Carolina when I visited Chris Gilland a few years ago. He was

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Tim Kilburn
t;n0...@charter.net> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? > Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the Windows > world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen read

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Ben J. Bloomgren
; <n0...@charter.net> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the Windows world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen reader is bui

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Arnold Schmidt
2016 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the Windows world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen reader is built in to the operating system. I think you said you were using a mac mini, you can us

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Scott Granados
Just to add to your comments, Braille is by far the weak point in my mind. Braille on OSX is bad or at least with my Focus 40. That’s a definite weakness you point out that I can attest to from personal experience. On 6/27/16, 2:50 PM, "Larry Thacker Jr."

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Larry Thacker Jr.
It was Windows 10 that did it for me. I got tired of the inconsistency and the issues with accessibility. I’ve been reading and listening to podcasts about the Mac for years, so in March I bought my first Mac. It’s a Mini, with processor and RAM upgraded sufficiently that I feel comfortable

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Well, orca isn’t that bad i think. It at least has the most efficient braille support i’ve ever used with any OS. Maybe Cobra screenreader for Windows beats any ScreenReader at least with braille Support. /A > On 27 Jun 2016, at 09:15, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > Yep

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi yes I like browsing on the mac with Safari mostly but I also have Google Chrome. > On 27 Jun 2016, at 16:51, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the Windows > world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi, forgive me, but I did not keep your first message, and the person whose reply I am using did not keep your name. Your questions are fine ones, and speaking only for myself, I find no reason for you to apologize. Speaking only for myself I feel the generalizations that often goes on where

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Mike Arrigo
Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the Windows world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen reader is built in to the operating system. I think you said you were using a mac mini, you can use the track pad if you have one, I use the numpad commander on

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Saqib Hussain
Hi. I love the spell check and the auto correction feature and this is available on Windows but couldn’t be detected with the screenreader that I was using which was System Access. I’ve done the hard yards in terms of learning the basics on my new Mac Mac and wouldn’t go back to Windows ever

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Jonathan Cohn
re than happy to help. > > Good luck > > > > > From: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Arnold Schmidt > <arno...@mindspring.com <mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>> > Reply-

RE: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Simon Fogarty
PM To: “Mac Visionaries“ <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? Honestly, I think the Mac is far better than Windows. First, it’s really not that complicated once you get used to it. Have you tried the item chooser? That might help you navigat

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Yep Scott, glad you mentioned Win10 privacy, I forgot about that, and yes that’s why I’m not using it. It’s not to say that it’s a bad OS, though, because it isn’t, but there’s still Win8.1 and Classic Shell or, if you want to go retro, Win7. Both run on that Mac Mini 2014 and Win8.1 and CS

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-27 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi, quite frankly, for you, windows is better then the mac because you are familiar with it and feel in your element. I love my apple products and won’t go back to windows, but I started out with apple products when I could see, so getting a mac and learning how to really use it has been more

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
As always, great response, not sure I agree with it all but well done and probably better presented than my arguments. I do wonder about the privacy area. I know you generally have a very good beed on the security side and privacy side. I’m interested that you still would be attracted to and

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
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Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Christopher Gilland
I completely agree with these assessments 100%. let me start by saying this: the Mac is not for everyone. oh boy do I hear people on this list complaining to me now! as an assistant technology instructor, I have to say the honest truth however. And the honest truth is, some people may do

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
well, hopefully it won’t be to painful. From: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Date: Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 10:06 PM To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: R

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
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Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
My primary reason for still using the Mac at this point is the frustration-free robustness of the OS and screen reader (if you’re on the right release, anyway). You really do get a lot in the package, especially if you also have iOS, but system-wide spell-check is still one of my favourite

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Devin Prater
work better > together than with Windows. I am just curious about it all. > > Arnold Schmidt >> - Original Message - >> From: Mary Otten <mailto:motte...@gmail.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com&

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Is The Mac Better Than Windows? I switched from Windows to Mac at the end of 2011. Voiceover is updated every time Apple updates the Mac's OS, just like the iPhone. The touchpad commander gives me more usability than touchscreens on Windows. That said, I do not know how accessible Jaws

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Otten To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? Hi Hank, What are the things that you want to do with your mat? What prompted you to purchase the Mac in the first place? What are you dissatisfied with regarding

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread David Chittenden
I switched from Windows to Mac at the end of 2011. Voiceover is updated every time Apple updates the Mac's OS, just like the iPhone. The touchpad commander gives me more usability than touchscreens on Windows. That said, I do not know how accessible Jaws is with Windows 10 touchscreen. I am

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
Honestly, I think the Mac is far better than Windows. First, it’s really not that complicated once you get used to it. Have you tried the item chooser? That might help you navigate more easily. Just press control-option-I. Navigate to the item you want, or type in the first few letters of the

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Hank, What are the things that you want to do with your mat? What prompted you to purchase the Mac in the first place? What are you dissatisfied with regarding windows? I think all of those things which depend on you are the real questions that need answering regarding whether a Mac is a

Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't want to read it. I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have the two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan And Voice Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The