Hi!
Well if there was a good braille support on the mac then we will have what we
have in many other screenReaders for Windows and Linux.
On the mac i can not navigate indipendently from the speech.
So a deaf-blind has a hard thing to resolve.
Actually since i began to use my mac i have been more
Hi!
Braille In my Opinion is just a shame on the mac.
And i really don’t know how we can get it better.
I’ve been having a mac now since November 2011 and nothing has happend since
the day i got my mac.
The only great thing for a braille user on the mac is that you can if you have
an Index
rlds.
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> Arnold Schmidt
> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net>
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> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?
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d track pad,
> getting the best of both worlds.
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> Arnold Schmidt
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t; I am use to everything, I expect I will use both keyboard and track pad,
>> getting the best of both worlds.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
ne 27, 2016 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?
Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the
Windows world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen reader
is built in to the operating system. I think you said you were using a
mac mini, you
My problem with braille support is that braille doesn’t show formatting
information, and my Vario Ultra can connect via Bluetooth, but not USB,
although that might change in Sierra but I’m not getting my hopes up. If you
read my Message with braille, you won’t find any italics signs or anything
Duxbury has promised an OS X version for 2-3 years. I have no idea
if there has been any progress at all. If you ask them, they will
probably repeat what I was told, We are working on it.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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On 6/27/2016 3:02
The problem, as far as I know, isn’t with support for braille displays. From
what I have heard that is indeed good. I don’t have one. The issue is that
there is no full-featured brail publishing program such as Duxbury for the Mac.
For even casual brail translation, if you want other people
Scott and all,
if you don't mind my asking, how is Braille the weak point of OSX? I'll
have to vehemently disagree with you hereon, and here's why.
I have an older Focus 40 USB Braille display, and I took it down to
North Carolina when I visited Chris Gilland a few years ago. He was
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Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the
Windows world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen
reader is bui
2016 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?
Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the
Windows world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen reader is
built in to the operating system. I think you said you were using a mac
mini, you can us
Just to add to your comments, Braille is by far the weak point in my mind.
Braille on OSX is bad or at least with my Focus 40. That’s a definite
weakness you point out that I can attest to from personal experience.
On 6/27/16, 2:50 PM, "Larry Thacker Jr."
It was Windows 10 that did it for me. I got tired of the inconsistency and the
issues with accessibility. I’ve been reading and listening to podcasts about
the Mac for years, so in March I bought my first Mac. It’s a Mini, with
processor and RAM upgraded sufficiently that I feel comfortable
Hi!
Well, orca isn’t that bad i think.
It at least has the most efficient braille support i’ve ever used with any OS.
Maybe Cobra screenreader for Windows beats any ScreenReader at least with
braille Support.
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> On 27 Jun 2016, at 09:15, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>
> Yep
Hi yes I like browsing on the mac with Safari mostly but I also have Google
Chrome.
> On 27 Jun 2016, at 16:51, Mike Arrigo wrote:
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> Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the Windows
> world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen
Hi,
forgive me, but I did not keep your first message, and the person whose
reply I am using did not keep your name.
Your questions are fine ones, and speaking only for myself, I find no
reason for you to apologize.
Speaking only for myself I feel the generalizations that often goes on
where
Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the
Windows world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen reader
is built in to the operating system. I think you said you were using a
mac mini, you can use the track pad if you have one, I use the numpad
commander on
Hi. I love the spell check and the auto correction feature and this is
available on Windows but couldn’t be detected with the screenreader that I was
using which was System Access. I’ve done the hard yards in terms of learning
the basics on my new Mac Mac and wouldn’t go back to Windows ever
re than happy to help.
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
>
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> <arno...@mindspring.com <mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>>
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Honestly, I think the Mac is far better than Windows.
First, it’s really not that complicated once you get used to it. Have you tried
the item chooser? That might help you navigat
Yep Scott, glad you mentioned Win10 privacy, I forgot about that, and yes
that’s why I’m not using it. It’s not to say that it’s a bad OS, though,
because it isn’t, but there’s still Win8.1 and Classic Shell or, if you want to
go retro, Win7. Both run on that Mac Mini 2014 and Win8.1 and CS
Hi,
quite frankly, for you, windows is better then the mac because you are familiar
with it and feel in your element.
I love my apple products and won’t go back to windows, but I started out with
apple products when I could see, so getting a mac and learning how to really
use it has been more
As always, great response, not sure I agree with it all but well done and
probably better presented than my arguments.
I do wonder about the privacy area. I know you generally have a very good beed
on the security side and privacy side. I’m interested that you still would be
attracted to and
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I completely agree with these assessments 100%.
let me start by saying this: the Mac is not for everyone. oh boy do I hear
people on this list complaining to me now! as an assistant technology
instructor, I have to say the honest truth however. And the honest truth is,
some people may do
well,
hopefully it won’t be to painful.
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My primary reason for still using the Mac at this point is the frustration-free
robustness of the OS and screen reader (if you’re on the right release,
anyway). You really do get a lot in the package, especially if you also have
iOS, but system-wide spell-check is still one of my favourite
work better
> together than with Windows. I am just curious about it all.
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> Arnold Schmidt
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Is The Mac Better Than Windows?
I switched from Windows to Mac at the end of 2011. Voiceover is updated every
time Apple updates the Mac's OS, just like the iPhone. The touchpad commander
gives me more usability than touchscreens on Windows. That said, I do not know
how accessible Jaws
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Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?
Hi Hank,
What are the things that you want to do with your mat? What prompted you to
purchase the Mac in the first place? What are you dissatisfied with regarding
I switched from Windows to Mac at the end of 2011. Voiceover is updated every
time Apple updates the Mac's OS, just like the iPhone. The touchpad commander
gives me more usability than touchscreens on Windows. That said, I do not know
how accessible Jaws is with Windows 10 touchscreen. I am
Honestly, I think the Mac is far better than Windows.
First, it’s really not that complicated once you get used to it. Have you tried
the item chooser? That might help you navigate more easily. Just press
control-option-I. Navigate to the item you want, or type in the first few
letters of the
Hi Hank,
What are the things that you want to do with your mat? What prompted you to
purchase the Mac in the first place? What are you dissatisfied with regarding
windows? I think all of those things which depend on you are the real questions
that need answering regarding whether a Mac is a
Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't want to
read it.
I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have the
two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan And Voice
Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The
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