Sprint launches LTE+ service

[Scott Granados]

Sprint announced it is launching it’s new LTE + 3 band LTE service in 77 
markets.  This also comes with an offer to cut T-Mobile, AT and Verizon plan 
costs in half.  Read more here

http://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/18/sprint-lte-plus-50-percent-off-deal/

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Getting Rid of Annoying "Web URL Detected"

[Bill Gallik]

I find myself getting extremely annoyed with the incessant “Web URL Detected” 
announcement that goes ad nauseum while reading some e-mail messages.  Can 
anybody advise me as how to get rid of this?
* * * * * * * * *
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Re: Getting Rid of Annoying "Web URL Detected"

[Matthew Dierckens]

You can't unfortunately.

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> On Nov 20, 2015, at 09:19, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> I find myself getting extremely annoyed with the incessant “Web URL Detected” 
> announcement that goes ad nauseum while reading some e-mail messages.  Can 
> anybody advise me as how to get rid of this?
> * * * * * * * * *
> Bill Gallik
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Re: Boot Camp, talking installer.

[mattias]

and if you dont have a external cdrom for bootcamp?

Den 2015-11-19 kl. kl 16:21, skrev Nicolai Svendsen:

Hi!

Have you tried plugging in earbuds, like the ones from Apple?

That sometimes does the trick. My Mac doesn't speak either unless I plug those 
in, and I know people who've had to do this as well. Bryan's page claims it 
does not support USB audio, but I've also connected USB headsets to the 
installer in the past.

Nicolai

On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:

I've tried both images. Neither of which I can get to talk. Both will however 
boot up onto the desktop I've had somebody visually verify. iMessage Brian on 
Twitter, and he says he doesn't know why it doesn't work with some Macs.

Sent from Pablo's iPhone


On Nov 19, 2015, at 2:25 AM, mattias  wrote:

wonder wich iso armando uses?
because in bryans archive there is 2
one named somthing mega
and one about 512 mb


Den 2015-11-18 kl. kl 21:53, skrev Paul Sandoval:
i'm trying to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp.
I'm also attempting to use the talking windows installer.
If someone has experience using this installer, I could really use some 
assistance.
I've listened to a podcast on Apple this, but I do not know what I'm missing.
I'm using a MacBook air mid 2013.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Sent from Pablo's iPhone

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how do i begin?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Hi guys,  I have decided to upgrade my mac, and took the advice of a member
who said to back up my system.  Apperantly I need 28.8 gb of space to back
up and I have I u s b key that has 59 gb of space so my questions are two,
but let's begin with the first.
Do I need to format this key somehow to use with the imac?  Or do I just
connect and ready to go?

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RE: Sprint launches LTE+ service

[M. Taylor]

Thank you for posting this, Scott.  

I know some people who will definitely be checking this new offer out as they 
are in the market for a new cell provider.

I am so happy that Sprint is fighting for new customers.  Nothing like 
competition to keep the prices down and the standard for new technology, up.

Mark

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Subject: Sprint launches LTE+ service

Sprint announced it is launching it’s new LTE + 3 band LTE service in 77 
markets.  This also comes with an offer to cut T-Mobile, AT and Verizon plan 
costs in half.  Read more here

http://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/18/sprint-lte-plus-50-percent-off-deal/

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T-Mobile launches LTE Etended in Philadelphia

[Scott Granados]

T-Mobile launches it’s band 12 700 mhz service in Philadelphia.  Read more here.


http://www.tmonews.com/2015/11/philadelphia-is-the-latest-city-to-get-t-mobile-extended-range-lte-coverage/


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Looking for an old MacVisionaries podcast

[Mike Busboom]

Hello everyone,

Quite some time ago, an individual did a podcast in which he use an Apple 
Bluetooth keyboard, and moved apps into various folders on his iPhone or iPad.  
When I went onto the Applevis site, the place where I believe the podcast was 
located, I was unable to find it.  Perhaps I missed it, but I looked sort of 
hard.

If anyone knows where this podcast is, I’d appreciate knowing.  If the podcast 
is no longer on the site, would someone be willing to send me a Dropbox link if 
they happened to have downloaded and saved it?

Thanks and kind regards,

Mike

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RE: ok got an external now what?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Hi there, I connected the drive to the mac and I clicked the mac instal dmg 
file and it asked me if I want this drive for the mac and the pc and of course 
I said yes.  Anyhow long story short I restarted the computer and according to 
the mac the install was successful.
How do I view the files on this drive? And how do I start the back up? Anyone 
have ideas?

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Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Zoey,

I could be wrong but you use TimeMachine to back up your system. Think
of it as a Windows Backup.
I hope someone can give further clarification.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.
> So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the
> upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something
> called mac installer.dmg
> So do I conect the hard drive and then click that?
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RE: ok got an external now what?

[george b]

Do the following
Voice over and m m

This is control option m m and you are in the extra menu across the top of the 
screen
Now voice over and right arrow to you hear time capseul then voice over and 
down arrow in the menu to what you want
The first is backup and if you do a voice over and spacebar it will start the 
first backup and it will take a while for the first one just let it go.

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Subject: RE: ok got an external now what?

Hi there, I connected the drive to the mac and I clicked the mac instal dmg 
file and it asked me if I want this drive for the mac and the pc and of course 
I said yes.  Anyhow long story short I restarted the computer and according to 
the mac the install was successful.
How do I view the files on this drive? And how do I start the back up? Anyone 
have ideas?

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Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Zoey,

I could be wrong but you use TimeMachine to back up your system. Think of it as 
a Windows Backup.
I hope someone can give further clarification.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.
> So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the 
> upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something 
> called mac installer.dmg So do I conect the hard drive and then click 
> that?
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RE: how do i begin?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Zoe,

When you say a USB key, are you referring to one of those little key-fob like 
devices that are smaller than the size of an average finger?   If so, I’m not 
certain I would use such a device to serve as the storage media for my backups. 
 All things being equal, they are remarkably slow.  While these little USB keys 
are marvelous for quickly transferring or even transporting data files, they 
would definitely not be my device of choice.

If you have the money, I would recommend that you go to your local technology 
retailer and purchase a portable USB hard drive.  In the USA, for example, one 
can acquire such a device at Best Buy for approximately $50.

Of course, this is just my opinion.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: how do i begin?

Hi guys,  I have decided to upgrade my mac, and took the advice of a member who 
said to back up my system.  Apperantly I need 28.8 gb of space to back up and I 
have I u s b key that has 59 gb of space so my questions are two, but let’s 
begin with the first.
Do I need to format this key somehow to use with the imac?  Or do I just 
connect and ready to go?
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ok got an external now what?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.  
So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the
upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something
called mac installer.dmg 
So do I conect the hard drive and then click that?

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Re: ok got an external now what?

[Vaughn Brown]

Zoey,

I could be wrong but you use TimeMachine to back up your system. Think
of it as a Windows Backup.
I hope someone can give further clarification.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.
> So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the
> upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something
> called mac installer.dmg
> So do I conect the hard drive and then click that?
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RE: how do i begin?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Ok I have an external but it's got a lot of music and stuff on it.  I could 
transfer things onto the little key and make room on that for the back up.  If 
you around in an hour or so, look for my mail if you can to help me proceed 
with the external.  On the external there is a section that says mac I don't 
know if I have to connect it and click that tab and do something or what?  
Anyhow if anyone can chime in here I would appreciate it.  For now let me make 
room on the c gate.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: November-20-15 12:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do i begin?

Hello Zoe,

When you say a USB key, are you referring to one of those little key-fob like 
devices that are smaller than the size of an average finger?   If so, I’m not 
certain I would use such a device to serve as the storage media for my backups. 
 All things being equal, they are remarkably slow.  While these little USB keys 
are marvelous for quickly transferring or even transporting data files, they 
would definitely not be my device of choice.

If you have the money, I would recommend that you go to your local technology 
retailer and purchase a portable USB hard drive.  In the USA, for example, one 
can acquire such a device at Best Buy for approximately $50.

Of course, this is just my opinion.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: how do i begin?

Hi guys,  I have decided to upgrade my mac, and took the advice of a member who 
said to back up my system.  Apperantly I need 28.8 gb of space to back up and I 
have I u s b key that has 59 gb of space so my questions are two, but let’s 
begin with the first.
Do I need to format this key somehow to use with the imac?  Or do I just 
connect and ready to go?
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RE: ok got an external now what?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Oh George thanks so much.  Will this back up straight to the drive? Once this 
is done will voiceover inform me?  If it does can I then upgrade to el capitan?

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Sent: November-20-15 1:49 PM
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Do the following
Voice over and m m

This is control option m m and you are in the extra menu across the top of the 
screen
Now voice over and right arrow to you hear time capseul then voice over and 
down arrow in the menu to what you want
The first is backup and if you do a voice over and spacebar it will start the 
first backup and it will take a while for the first one just let it go.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 10:30
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ok got an external now what?

Hi there, I connected the drive to the mac and I clicked the mac instal dmg 
file and it asked me if I want this drive for the mac and the pc and of course 
I said yes.  Anyhow long story short I restarted the computer and according to 
the mac the install was successful.
How do I view the files on this drive? And how do I start the back up? Anyone 
have ideas?

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Sent: November-20-15 1:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Zoey,

I could be wrong but you use TimeMachine to back up your system. Think of it as 
a Windows Backup.
I hope someone can give further clarification.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.
> So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the 
> upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something 
> called mac installer.dmg So do I conect the hard drive and then click 
> that?
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should it be taking this long?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I
have an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I
know the progress or time left for the back up to finish?

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VMware interface

[E.T.]

   Windows 7 is installed and running pretty good now. I am using full 
screen mode as I do not intend to in both OSs a great deal once I finish 
installing and tweaking Windows.


   I have VM set to use the Windows 8 keyboard profile as it seems the 
best choice. Couple things I have experienced is one, if I switch to OS 
X and go into Finder, I have trouble navigating there. For example, I 
may want to navigate to the sidebar but I cannot stop interacting with 
the view browser.


   2nd thing is, I get phantom windows a lot when I am in OS X.

   Would appriciate any tips on resolving these two things. Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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how to keep iTunes from starting

[Jim Gatteys]

I thought I remembered a keystroke that would keep iTunes from launching 
automatically when I plug the iPhone into my mac.  Sometimes I just want to 
charge it and not have it sync and do all the other crap that it does when 
connecting a phone.
Anybody know this keystroke?
Thanks,
Jim

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Re: Sprint launches LTE+ service

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Just wish to know, can’t you get a good pay as you go service from US if you 
can’t afford contract?

I have a Pay as you go plan but once I have put the credit on it, I can spend 
the same credit to get an all you eat data add on with excellent voice calling 
minutes which last for 30 days.  However, I rarely use the voice calling 
minutes as everyone I know has an I phone so I take advantage of I message and 
Audio Face time both is free and all you can eat data unlimited when I’m out 
and about.  Of course I use wireless at home so no cost at all.

Just interested to know.

Thanks.

Kawal.
> On 20 Nov 2015, at 16:45, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for posting this, Scott.  
> 
> I know some people who will definitely be checking this new offer out as they 
> are in the market for a new cell provider.
> 
> I am so happy that Sprint is fighting for new customers.  Nothing like 
> competition to keep the prices down and the standard for new technology, up.
> 
> Mark
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> Sprint announced it is launching it’s new LTE + 3 band LTE service in 77 
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> plan costs in half.  Read more here
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> http://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/18/sprint-lte-plus-50-percent-off-deal/
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Re: back up failed

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

format the disk to os mac extended
> Il giorno 20 nov 2015, alle ore 11:42 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  ha 
> scritto:
> 
> I saw a message that said something to the effect of back up failed because 
> the back up disk
> Is ntot a mac osx extended journal format which is required.  I like the fact 
> that I clicked when installing the drive mac install dmg and it asked me if I 
> want to use this drive for pc and mac. It told me that the drive was 
> installed successfully so now what do I do how do I proceed?  There must be 
> someone who can help me.  
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RE: should it be taking this long?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Thanks chris but unfortunately the back up failed because even though c gate 
gives me the option for mac and pc it tells me something about paragon, sorry I 
don’t remember exactly and it says its not compatible, and then it tells me if 
I want to make the disk mac only but I cannot do that because it wants to erase 
all my files.
I have my music, files, documents, etc.  I view and use these files with 
windows and I cannot get rid of them.  So now I’m stuck again.  Since I can’t 
use the 64 gb stick I have and the 2 tb c gate drive is not compatible, I 
cannot back up the mac, therefore I cannot upgrade to el capitan either.  So I 
spent 3 days killing my brain trying to figure out things on the mac and now it 
looks like it was all for nothing.
Thanks
Zoe
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: November-20-15 6:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
 
I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually backing up.  I 
have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine, and from what 
I vaguely remember her saying, it took somewhere around 5 hours.
 
Chris.
 
On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, george b  wrote:
 
Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:48
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: should it be taking this long?
 
All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I have 
an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I know the 
progress or time left for the back up to finish?
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Re: Sprint launches LTE+ service

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello Scott.

I have 4G. I think you can get various kinds of speed is here, but I'm not sure.

I am on three, so I am familiar with their network. 4G comes at no additional 
cost.

It is very fast!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Nov 2015, at 10:31 p.m., Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Kawal, there are all sorts of options in the states now which is a real 
> improvement over how things were.  You can buy pre and post paid services 
> from the big carriers here now, T-Mobile has a very flexible set of plans and 
> then there are the resellers / rebranded services that have even lower cost 
> and pay as you go options.
>   For example here in the states my plan is $100 US monthly which I think 
> is about 65 British Pounds.  I get two lines each fully unlimited including 
> unlimited operation in several countries, unlimited 4G data and unlimited 
> messaging.  I could get away with a lot less but I like not having to worry 
> about usage, I can’t go over any set levels.  But yes you can find a plan to 
> fit what ever payment model you want.  How are your speeds on the network 
> there across the pond?  My carrier is in the middle of a huge upgrade and has 
> blazing speeds for the US available in more areas now even rural.  In the 
> middle of a large city speeds of over 100 megabits per second are quite 
> common.  Rural areas or deep inside large buildings you can average 25 or so. 
>  What are your services like there?
>   
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Just wish to know, can’t you get a good pay as you go service from US if you 
>> can’t afford contract?
>> 
>> I have a Pay as you go plan but once I have put the credit on it, I can 
>> spend the same credit to get an all you eat data add on with excellent voice 
>> calling minutes which last for 30 days.  However, I rarely use the voice 
>> calling minutes as everyone I know has an I phone so I take advantage of I 
>> message and Audio Face time both is free and all you can eat data unlimited 
>> when I’m out and about.  Of course I use wireless at home so no cost at all.
>> 
>> Just interested to know.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 20 Nov 2015, at 16:45, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you for posting this, Scott.  
>>> 
>>> I know some people who will definitely be checking this new offer out as 
>>> they are in the market for a new cell provider.
>>> 
>>> I am so happy that Sprint is fighting for new customers.  Nothing like 
>>> competition to keep the prices down and the standard for new technology, up.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 5:52 AM
>>> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via
>>> Subject: Sprint launches LTE+ service
>>> 
>>> Sprint announced it is launching it’s new LTE + 3 band LTE service in 77 
>>> markets.  This also comes with an offer to cut T-Mobile, AT and Verizon 
>>> plan costs in half.  Read more here
>>> 
>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/18/sprint-lte-plus-50-percent-off-deal/
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Re: Sprint launches LTE+ service

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I forgot to add one more thing.

With 3, I can for example go to the USA and use my network and only get charged 
as if I was calling from the UK.  3 has agreements with certain countries that 
you can go there and get charged the same as if you were calling from your 
country of origin.

Kawal.
> On 20 Nov 2015, at 22:45, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hello Scott.
> 
> I have 4G. I think you can get various kinds of speed is here, but I'm not 
> sure.
> 
> I am on three, so I am familiar with their network. 4G comes at no additional 
> cost.
> 
> It is very fast!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20 Nov 2015, at 10:31 p.m., Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> Kawal, there are all sorts of options in the states now which is a real 
>> improvement over how things were.  You can buy pre and post paid services 
>> from the big carriers here now, T-Mobile has a very flexible set of plans 
>> and then there are the resellers / rebranded services that have even lower 
>> cost and pay as you go options.
>>  For example here in the states my plan is $100 US monthly which I think 
>> is about 65 British Pounds.  I get two lines each fully unlimited including 
>> unlimited operation in several countries, unlimited 4G data and unlimited 
>> messaging.  I could get away with a lot less but I like not having to worry 
>> about usage, I can’t go over any set levels.  But yes you can find a plan to 
>> fit what ever payment model you want.  How are your speeds on the network 
>> there across the pond?  My carrier is in the middle of a huge upgrade and 
>> has blazing speeds for the US available in more areas now even rural.  In 
>> the middle of a large city speeds of over 100 megabits per second are quite 
>> common.  Rural areas or deep inside large buildings you can average 25 or 
>> so.  What are your services like there?
>>   
>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just wish to know, can’t you get a good pay as you go service from US if 
>>> you can’t afford contract?
>>> 
>>> I have a Pay as you go plan but once I have put the credit on it, I can 
>>> spend the same credit to get an all you eat data add on with excellent 
>>> voice calling minutes which last for 30 days.  However, I rarely use the 
>>> voice calling minutes as everyone I know has an I phone so I take advantage 
>>> of I message and Audio Face time both is free and all you can eat data 
>>> unlimited when I’m out and about.  Of course I use wireless at home so no 
>>> cost at all.
>>> 
>>> Just interested to know.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
 On 20 Nov 2015, at 16:45, M. Taylor > wrote:
 
 Thank you for posting this, Scott.  
 
 I know some people who will definitely be checking this new offer out as 
 they are in the market for a new cell provider.
 
 I am so happy that Sprint is fighting for new customers.  Nothing like 
 competition to keep the prices down and the standard for new technology, 
 up.
 
 Mark
 
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 ] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 5:52 AM
 To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via
 Subject: Sprint launches LTE+ service
 
 Sprint announced it is launching it’s new LTE + 3 band LTE service in 77 
 markets.  This also comes with an offer to cut T-Mobile, AT and Verizon 
 plan costs in half.  Read more here
 
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Re: Sprint launches LTE+ service

[Scott Granados]

Kawal, there are all sorts of options in the states now which is a real 
improvement over how things were.  You can buy pre and post paid services from 
the big carriers here now, T-Mobile has a very flexible set of plans and then 
there are the resellers / rebranded services that have even lower cost and pay 
as you go options.
For example here in the states my plan is $100 US monthly which I think 
is about 65 British Pounds.  I get two lines each fully unlimited including 
unlimited operation in several countries, unlimited 4G data and unlimited 
messaging.  I could get away with a lot less but I like not having to worry 
about usage, I can’t go over any set levels.  But yes you can find a plan to 
fit what ever payment model you want.  How are your speeds on the network there 
across the pond?  My carrier is in the middle of a huge upgrade and has blazing 
speeds for the US available in more areas now even rural.  In the middle of a 
large city speeds of over 100 megabits per second are quite common.  Rural 
areas or deep inside large buildings you can average 25 or so.  What are your 
services like there?
  
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Just wish to know, can’t you get a good pay as you go service from US if you 
> can’t afford contract?
> 
> I have a Pay as you go plan but once I have put the credit on it, I can spend 
> the same credit to get an all you eat data add on with excellent voice 
> calling minutes which last for 30 days.  However, I rarely use the voice 
> calling minutes as everyone I know has an I phone so I take advantage of I 
> message and Audio Face time both is free and all you can eat data unlimited 
> when I’m out and about.  Of course I use wireless at home so no cost at all.
> 
> Just interested to know.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 20 Nov 2015, at 16:45, M. Taylor > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for posting this, Scott.  
>> 
>> I know some people who will definitely be checking this new offer out as 
>> they are in the market for a new cell provider.
>> 
>> I am so happy that Sprint is fighting for new customers.  Nothing like 
>> competition to keep the prices down and the standard for new technology, up.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 5:52 AM
>> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via
>> Subject: Sprint launches LTE+ service
>> 
>> Sprint announced it is launching it’s new LTE + 3 band LTE service in 77 
>> markets.  This also comes with an offer to cut T-Mobile, AT and Verizon 
>> plan costs in half.  Read more here
>> 
>> http://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/18/sprint-lte-plus-50-percent-off-deal/ 
>> 
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Option t for opening text edit

[Sandy Finley]

is there a way to tell my  Mac that I do not want option T to open text edit, 
option S to open safari, and so on? Thanks.   
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back up failed

[Zoe Fiogkos]

I saw a message that said something to the effect of back up failed because
the back up disk
Is ntot a mac osx extended journal format which is required.  I like the
fact that I clicked when installing the drive mac install dmg and it asked
me if I want to use this drive for pc and mac. It told me that the drive was
installed successfully so now what do I do how do I proceed?  There must be
someone who can help me.  

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RE: how to keep iTunes from starting

[george b]

When iTunes is opened under the summery collum there is a check box you need to 
put a check in to not have start when device is plugged in

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Subject: how to keep iTunes from starting

I thought I remembered a keystroke that would keep iTunes from launching 
automatically when I plug the iPhone into my mac.  Sometimes I just want to 
charge it and not have it sync and do all the other crap that it does when 
connecting a phone.
Anybody know this keystroke?
Thanks,
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RE: should it be taking this long?

[george b]

Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed

 

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On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:48
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: should it be taking this long?

 

All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I have 
an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I know the 
progress or time left for the back up to finish?

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Re: Option t for opening text edit

[Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist)]

Turn off keyboard commander. Voiceover shift K.

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> is there a way to tell my  Mac that I do not want option T to open text edit, 
> option S to open safari, and so on? Thanks. 
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Re: Option t for opening text edit

[Chris Gilland]

First off, option+T shouldn’t open Text Edit, unless you’ve gone in and changed 
that shortcut.  Normally by default, option+T, provided, obviously, that 
keyboard commander is enabled, should announce the time of day.

Chris.

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>> is there a way to tell my  Mac that I do not want option T to open text 
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>> Sandy Finley
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Re: should it be taking this long?

[Chris Gilland]

I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually backing up.  I 
have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine, and from what 
I vaguely remember her saying, it took somewhere around 5 hours.

Chris.

> On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
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> Subject: should it be taking this long?
>  
> All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I 
> have an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I 
> know the progress or time left for the back up to finish?
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RE: back up failed

[Zoe Fiogkos]

First of all I don’t know how to do that.  Second of all I have a lot of files 
on there that I use on my windows pc.  That’s why I tried to install the drive 
on the mac and when it said option for mac and pc I said yes but unfortunately 
it says something like about paragon and that it’s not compatable.  So now I’m 
stuck again.  Don’t know what to do.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
Sent: November-20-15 7:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: back up failed
 
format the disk to os mac extended
Il giorno 20 nov 2015, alle ore 11:42 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  ha 
scritto:
 
I saw a message that said something to the effect of back up failed because the 
back up disk
Is ntot a mac osx extended journal format which is required.  I like the fact 
that I clicked when installing the drive mac install dmg and it asked me if I 
want to use this drive for pc and mac. It told me that the drive was installed 
successfully so now what do I do how do I proceed?  There must be someone who 
can help me.  
 
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Re: should it be taking this long?

[Chris Gilland]

Oh, you probably have paragon ntfs installed, and I’ll bet you anything that 
your drive is partitioned as ntfs instead of mac journaled extended.  That 
would explain it, if so.

Chris.

> On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> Thanks chris but unfortunately the back up failed because even though c gate 
> gives me the option for mac and pc it tells me something about paragon, sorry 
> I don’t remember exactly and it says its not compatible, and then it tells me 
> if I want to make the disk mac only but I cannot do that because it wants to 
> erase all my files.
> I have my music, files, documents, etc.  I view and use these files with 
> windows and I cannot get rid of them.  So now I’m stuck again.  Since I can’t 
> use the 64 gb stick I have and the 2 tb c gate drive is not compatible, I 
> cannot back up the mac, therefore I cannot upgrade to el capitan either.  So 
> I spent 3 days killing my brain trying to figure out things on the mac and 
> now it looks like it was all for nothing.
> Thanks
> Zoe
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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>  
> I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually backing up.  
> I have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine, and from 
> what I vaguely remember her saying, it took somewhere around 5 hours.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, george b > > wrote:
>>  
>> Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:48
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: should it be taking this long?
>>  
>> All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I 
>> have an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I 
>> know the progress or time left for the back up to finish?
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Re: back up failed

[Chris Gilland]

That can be done in Disk Utility, but yeah, if you have a lot of data on the 
drive, then you’d definitely not want to go that avenue… especially not if you 
plan to use the drive both on Windows, and also on the mac.  Sounds like at 
this point, you’re unfortunately kind of in a catch 22 situation.

Chris.

> On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> First of all I don’t know how to do that.  Second of all I have a lot of 
> files on there that I use on my windows pc.  That’s why I tried to install 
> the drive on the mac and when it said option for mac and pc I said yes but 
> unfortunately it says something like about paragon and that it’s not 
> compatable.  So now I’m stuck again.  Don’t know what to do.
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas 
> Herrera
> Sent: November-20-15 7:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: back up failed
>  
> format the disk to os mac extended
>> Il giorno 20 nov 2015, alle ore 11:42 PM, Zoe Fiogkos > > ha scritto:
>>  
>> I saw a message that said something to the effect of back up failed because 
>> the back up disk
>> Is ntot a mac osx extended journal format which is required.  I like the 
>> fact that I clicked when installing the drive mac install dmg and it asked 
>> me if I want to use this drive for pc and mac. It told me that the drive was 
>> installed successfully so now what do I do how do I proceed?  There must be 
>> someone who can help me.  
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RE: should it be taking this long?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

That sounds correct to me even though I have no idea about these things.  
What’s your opinion on all of this?  Have you been following my threads?
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: November-20-15 7:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
 
Oh, you probably have paragon ntfs installed, and I’ll bet you anything that 
your drive is partitioned as ntfs instead of mac journaled extended.  That 
would explain it, if so.
 
Chris.
 
On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
 
Thanks chris but unfortunately the back up failed because even though c gate 
gives me the option for mac and pc it tells me something about paragon, sorry I 
don’t remember exactly and it says its not compatible, and then it tells me if 
I want to make the disk mac only but I cannot do that because it wants to erase 
all my files.
I have my music, files, documents, etc.  I view and use these files with 
windows and I cannot get rid of them.  So now I’m stuck again.  Since I can’t 
use the 64 gb stick I have and the 2 tb c gate drive is not compatible, I 
cannot back up the mac, therefore I cannot upgrade to el capitan either.  So I 
spent 3 days killing my brain trying to figure out things on the mac and now it 
looks like it was all for nothing.
Thanks
Zoe
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: November-20-15 6:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
 
I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually backing up.  I 
have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine, and from what 
I vaguely remember her saying, it took somewhere around 5 hours.
 
Chris.
 
On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, george b  wrote:
 
Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:48
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: should it be taking this long?
 
All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I have 
an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I know the 
progress or time left for the back up to finish?
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Re: ok got an external now what?

[Chris Moore]

Hi,
We don’t know what the mac installer did to your drive.  To use time machine 
you need a mac partition.  One approach would be to use disk utility to create 
two partitions on the drive: one for TM backups (mac) and a second for your 
data files (ext fat).  
Let us know what disk utility tells you about the current partitions on the 
drive.

Chris

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Re: VMware interface

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Yes, don’t use Unity.  Switch in and out of full-screen mode with 
Control-Command-F (check Window menu), or carefully operate the VM in 
single-window mode only.  In the View menu, turn off the showing of everything 
in full-screen (not strictly necessary, but safe and cool).  Now in global 
Preferences, set the showing of the menu bar to “Never”.  You should not have 
problems navigating in OS X or Windows, nor any phantom window then.

One more thing: sometimes VoiceOver gets “Stuck” if it was running while you 
are in a VM.  The remedy is to minimise transitions between operating systems, 
or turn VO off while in Windows.  A good idea anyway, of course.

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RE: ok got an external now what?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Let's start from the beginning.  I have no personal files on the mac that I 
want saved.  I have been trying to learn the mac and in doing so I've run into 
so many problems that it looks like no one on the list can explain accept to 
say it might be mavricks and older versions of pages.  So I decided to upgrade 
to el capitan but to do so people on the list said I should back up at least my 
system.  So I have a u s b stick capacity 64 gb and time machine says I need 28 
gb of free space.  Someone on the list said not to use a stick for a back up 
because they are slow.  So I pulled out my external which at the store the guy 
told me I could use for a mac and windows.  I've been using this drive for the 
last few years to back up important documents, mail messages, pictures, videos 
and music all with windows.  I plugged the drive into windows and it said I 
have one and a half tb of free space.  It said something in the properties 
ntfs.  On the drive there is something called mac install dmg.  I think the 
rest you guys no.  now you guys are telling me something about disk utility.  
Please be patient with me, but what is that?  What exactly are you guys telling 
me to partition?  My external or my iMac drive?  

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Moore
Sent: November-20-15 8:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Hi,
We don’t know what the mac installer did to your drive.  To use time machine 
you need a mac partition.  One approach would be to use disk utility to create 
two partitions on the drive: one for TM backups (mac) and a second for your 
data files (ext fat).  

Let us know what disk utility tells you about the current partitions on the 
drive.

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RE: ok got an external now what?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Where do I find disk utility?

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On Behalf Of Chris Moore
Sent: November-20-15 8:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Hi,
We don’t know what the mac installer did to your drive.  To use time machine 
you need a mac partition.  One approach would be to use disk utility to create 
two partitions on the drive: one for TM backups (mac) and a second for your 
data files (ext fat).  

Let us know what disk utility tells you about the current partitions on the 
drive.

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Re: back up failed

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Don’t format that disk and don’t use it for Time Machine yet.  Get a copy of 
your data onto a second external drive first.  That USB key will probably do 
just what you want.

Time Machine wants Mac OS X Extended volumes for backups.  That means 
destroying any existing data on the device.  Moreover, Time Machine wants to 
consume as much space as there is available, so sharing Time Machine with other 
uses is not a good idea.

When you’re up and running with El Capitan, shove your important stuff onto 
iCloud Drive, where you can’t accidentally format the drive.

Don’t rush into anything.  There is a tomorrow. :)

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Re: should it be taking this long?

[Vaughn Brown]

Do you have a friend who can help you who is local? Sounds like you
need a lot of training. I know this feeling for I experienced it when
I first got my Mac four years ago... I think having someone in person
train you would be less stressful for you.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> That sounds correct to me even though I have no idea about these things.
> What’s your opinion on all of this?  Have you been following my threads?
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
> Sent: November-20-15 7:58 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>
> Oh, you probably have paragon ntfs installed, and I’ll bet you anything that
> your drive is partitioned as ntfs instead of mac journaled extended.  That
> would explain it, if so.
>
> Chris.
>
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>
> Thanks chris but unfortunately the back up failed because even though c gate
> gives me the option for mac and pc it tells me something about paragon,
> sorry I don’t remember exactly and it says its not compatible, and then it
> tells me if I want to make the disk mac only but I cannot do that because it
> wants to erase all my files.
> I have my music, files, documents, etc.  I view and use these files with
> windows and I cannot get rid of them.  So now I’m stuck again.  Since I
> can’t use the 64 gb stick I have and the 2 tb c gate drive is not
> compatible, I cannot back up the mac, therefore I cannot upgrade to el
> capitan either.  So I spent 3 days killing my brain trying to figure out
> things on the mac and now it looks like it was all for nothing.
> Thanks
> Zoe
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
> Sent: November-20-15 6:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>
> I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually backing up.
>  I have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine, and from
> what I vaguely remember her saying, it took somewhere around 5 hours.
>
> Chris.
>
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, george b  wrote:
>
> Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:48
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: should it be taking this long?
>
> All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I
> have an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I
> know the progress or time left for the back up to finish?
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RE: should it be taking this long?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Right now I can’t stop crying and I wouldn’t be any good in making progress, 
but if your offer stands on Monday I would greatly appreciate it.
Please forgive me but I was about to give up and stay with windows, but if 
there is one kind soul out there who can try to help I’ll give it another go
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: November-20-15 9:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
 
Hi Zoe, I have access to calling to Canada. So I will be more than glad to help 
you if need be. and I also have a Mac.
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 
 
FaceTime/iMessage
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On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
 
No I don't have anyone, but it's obvious that I've driven everyone nuts with so 
many questions, so just wanted to say thank you and sorry.  

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: November-20-15 8:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?

Do you have a friend who can help you who is local? Sounds like you
need a lot of training. I know this feeling for I experienced it when
I first got my Mac four years ago... I think having someone in person
train you would be less stressful for you.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:


That sounds correct to me even though I have no idea about these things.
What’s your opinion on all of this?  Have you been following my threads?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: November-20-15 7:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?

Oh, you probably have paragon ntfs installed, and I’ll bet you anything that
your drive is partitioned as ntfs instead of mac journaled extended.  That
would explain it, if so.

Chris.

On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:

Thanks chris but unfortunately the back up failed because even though c gate
gives me the option for mac and pc it tells me something about paragon,
sorry I don’t remember exactly and it says its not compatible, and then it
tells me if I want to make the disk mac only but I cannot do that because it
wants to erase all my files.
I have my music, files, documents, etc.  I view and use these files with
windows and I cannot get rid of them.  So now I’m stuck again.  Since I
can’t use the 64 gb stick I have and the 2 tb c gate drive is not
compatible, I cannot back up the mac, therefore I cannot upgrade to el
capitan either.  So I spent 3 days killing my brain trying to figure out
things on the mac and now it looks like it was all for nothing.
Thanks
Zoe

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: November-20-15 6:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?

I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually backing up.
I have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine, and from
what I vaguely remember her saying, it took somewhere around 5 hours.

Chris.

On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, george b  wrote:

Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:48
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: should it be taking this long?

All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I
have an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I
know the progress or time left for the back up to finish?
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Re: ok got an external now what?

[Brian Moore]

Hi.  Okay, first question, do you have things on your external that you 
want to save?


if yes, we have a problem and you can't use that drive for a timemachine 
backup as this will erase the content on the drive.


if no, , then we can make this work but we will have to make changes to 
the drive to make it operate on mac. by default, mac can not write to a 
drive with the ntfs file system.  This is changable but not without a 
complicated install process that is really beyond the scope of this message.


Sorry have not been following this whole thread so people may have 
already given these instructions.


if you are okay with loosing the stuff on the drive, write me privately 
and I can give you instructions on how to make this drive work with mac 
in a whole bunch of detaill that should make it easy.


because I am in Toronto like you still might be, we could do some of 
this on the phone as well.


Brian.

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Re: back up failed

[Chris Gilland]

Zoey,

I wouldn’t ask you to pay right now for training.  Eventually, being this is my 
job, I’m not going to lie to you, I probably would have to start charging, but 
I’d be absolutely more than happy to at least give you a few lessons for free.  
It’s not something I normally do, admittedly, but given your situation, I’d be 
willing to make a one time exception.

Chris.

> On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much for your patients Sabahattin
> Sitting hear in tears I really appreciate your patients.  Because I can't 
> afford paid lessons right now I guess I'm giving up and going back to windows 
> since obviously I've tired out some people.
> I just wanted to say from the bottom of my heart I won't forget your kindness 
> and name.
> Sincerely
> zoe
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
> Sent: November-20-15 9:12 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: back up failed
> 
> Hi Zoe,
> 
> No.  The USB key really is too slow for a backup device, although it might 
> work for that.  I’m suggesting simply that you ensure that the files you 
> value most dearly are somewhere other than either that Mac or that External 
> hard drive.  That’s all.  Once you’re sure your data is safe, then you may go 
> ahead with wiping, backup, upgrade, and so on.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
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Re: ok got an external now what?

[E.T.]

Zoe,
   I think you need to be the one to start from the beginning and 
really get to know OS X before you go any further. Your flood of 
messages this week bears this out.


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On 11/20/2015 5:48 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:

Where do I find disk utility?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Moore
Sent: November-20-15 8:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Hi,
We don’t know what the mac installer did to your drive.  To use time machine 
you need a mac partition.  One approach would be to use disk utility to create 
two partitions on the drive: one for TM backups (mac) and a second for your 
data files (ext fat).

Let us know what disk utility tells you about the current partitions on the 
drive.

Chris



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RE: ok got an external now what?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Sorry didn't mean to drive you guys crazy.  I'll save the money and get some 
paid lessons instead.  Thanks to all.


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Sent: November-20-15 9:02 PM
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Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Zoe,
I think you need to be the one to start from the beginning and 
really get to know OS X before you go any further. Your flood of 
messages this week bears this out.

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On 11/20/2015 5:48 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
> Where do I find disk utility?
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
> Sent: November-20-15 8:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?
>
> Hi,
> We don’t know what the mac installer did to your drive.  To use time machine 
> you need a mac partition.  One approach would be to use disk utility to 
> create two partitions on the drive: one for TM backups (mac) and a second for 
> your data files (ext fat).

>
> Let us know what disk utility tells you about the current partitions on the 
> drive.
>
> Chris
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RE: back up failed

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Thank you so much for your patients Sabahattin
Sitting hear in tears I really appreciate your patients.  Because I can't 
afford paid lessons right now I guess I'm giving up and going back to windows 
since obviously I've tired out some people.
I just wanted to say from the bottom of my heart I won't forget your kindness 
and name.
Sincerely
zoe

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: November-20-15 9:12 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: back up failed

Hi Zoe,

No.  The USB key really is too slow for a backup device, although it might work 
for that.  I’m suggesting simply that you ensure that the files you value most 
dearly are somewhere other than either that Mac or that External hard drive.  
That’s all.  Once you’re sure your data is safe, then you may go ahead with 
wiping, backup, upgrade, and so on.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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RE: should it be taking this long?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Thank you brian and joseph, I live all the way in the east and my cousin is on 
her way ove from downtown Toronto I will contact both of you.  I appreciate it 
so much.  
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brian Moore
Sent: November-20-15 9:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
 
yep, can do.

like I said in last message, if you are still in Toronto, we can make something 
happen.
Brian.


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On 20/11/2015 9:30 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
Right now I can’t stop crying and I wouldn’t be any good in making progress, 
but if your offer stands on Monday I would greatly appreciate it.
Please forgive me but I was about to give up and stay with windows, but if 
there is one kind soul out there who can try to help I’ll give it another go
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: November-20-15 9:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
 
Hi Zoe, I have access to calling to Canada. So I will be more than glad to help 
you if need be. and I also have a Mac.
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 
 
FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7...@yahoo.com
 
On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
 
No I don't have anyone, but it's obvious that I've driven everyone nuts with so 
many questions, so just wanted to say thank you and sorry.  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: November-20-15 8:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?

Do you have a friend who can help you who is local? Sounds like you
need a lot of training. I know this feeling for I experienced it when
I first got my Mac four years ago... I think having someone in person
train you would be less stressful for you.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:


That sounds correct to me even though I have no idea about these things.
What’s your opinion on all of this?  Have you been following my threads?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: November-20-15 7:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?

Oh, you probably have paragon ntfs installed, and I’ll bet you anything that
your drive is partitioned as ntfs instead of mac journaled extended.  That
would explain it, if so.

Chris.

On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:

Thanks chris but unfortunately the back up failed because even though c gate
gives me the option for mac and pc it tells me something about paragon,
sorry I don’t remember exactly and it says its not compatible, and then it
tells me if I want to make the disk mac only but I cannot do that because it
wants to erase all my files.
I have my music, files, documents, etc.  I view and use these files with
windows and I cannot get rid of them.  So now I’m stuck again.  Since I
can’t use the 64 gb stick I have and the 2 tb c gate drive is not
compatible, I cannot back up the mac, therefore I cannot upgrade to el
capitan either.  So I spent 3 days killing my brain trying to figure out
things on the mac and now it looks like it was all for nothing.
Thanks
Zoe

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: November-20-15 6:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?

I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually backing up.
I have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine, and from
what I vaguely remember her saying, it took somewhere around 5 hours.

Chris.

On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, george b  wrote:

Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:48
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: should it be taking this long?

All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I
have an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I
know the progress or time left for the back up to finish?
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Re: should it be taking this long?

[joseph hudson]

Okay sounds good, we've be available Monday?
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com 
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
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> On Nov 20, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> Actually, I’ll be traveling a majority of tomorrow back home, as I’m 
> finnishing my vacation.
> 
> Chris.
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 10:41 PM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Chris, if you would like to join me on Monday I will be able to make the 
>> call to Canada if you're interested in joining in on a three-way call. 
>> Contact me throughout the weekend do you my details below seems how I have 
>> things going on this weekend.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> Email
>> jhud7...@gmail.com 
>> I device support
>> Telephone
>> 2543007667
>> Skype
>> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>> 
>> Twitter
>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
>> 
>> FaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Chris Gilland >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d like to say a few things, now that I am catching up on this thread.
>>> 
>>> Firstly,
>>> 
>>> I am so sorry, Zoey, that you are feeling this way!  This should absolutely 
>>> *never!* be the way anyone should have to feel who is learning a new piece 
>>> of technology.  I don’t care if it is an I O S device, a Windows machine, a 
>>> mac, etc.
>>> 
>>> I unfortunately do not have calling to Canada from either a lan line, or a 
>>> cell phone, however, I’ll tell you what.  Even if you have to talk to me 
>>> this way through the Windows side of things instead of the mac, I’d be 
>>> absolutely thrilled to talk to you over Skype, or Facetime, if that would 
>>> help.
>>> 
>>> I promise that you will get this.
>>> 
>>> Let me just encourage you by saying this:  though I am a very very 
>>> advanced, and very quick learner, the mac did take me some time, after only 
>>> using Windows to get used to.  It wasn’t so much I didn’t understand it, 
>>> nor that I didn’t know how to do certain things with the mac.  I just found 
>>> it a bit awkward.
>>> 
>>> The biggest thing for me was, I was patient, and didn’t allow myself to get 
>>> overwhelmed.  When I started to feel frustrated, I put the mac aside, and 
>>> just took a break.
>>> 
>>> Please don’t be so hard on yourself.  And please don’t beat yourself up!  
>>> We all have different learning levels, strategies, and processes for 
>>> learning certain things.  For example, I do better when someone actually 
>>> takes my hand and guides me step by step.  Once shown, I generally can 
>>> figure things out once I know the basics.  On the other hand, others may 
>>> find this method very frightening.
>>> 
>>> You have to find a balance of what works best for you with your given 
>>> circumstances.  And, not a single person should tell you you’re asking too 
>>> many questions.  I’m sorry, but anyone doing that is a neurotic jerk!
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I hope this at least gives you some encouragement/motivation.  
>>> Don’t ever feel that there is a stupid question.  The only stupid question 
>>> is the one you fail to ask.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
 On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:32 PM, joseph hudson > wrote:
 
 Absolutely, I'm available Monday and Tuesday of next week and then I'm 
 traveling Wednesday and Thursday and then backing on Friday. And if you 
 just need to talk right now, to keep yourself from crying email me off 
 list with the good number or FaceTime details, and we can definitely talk 
 right now.
 Joseph Hudson
 Email
 jhud7...@gmail.com 
 I device support
 Telephone
 2543007667
 Skype
 joseph.hudson89 facebook
 https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
 
 Twitter
 https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
 
 FaceTime/iMessage
 jhud7...@yahoo.com 
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  > wrote:
> 
> Right now I can’t stop crying and I wouldn’t be any good in making 
> progress, but if your offer stands on Monday I would greatly appreciate 
> it.
> Please forgive me but I was about to give up and stay with windows, but 
> if there is one kind soul out there who can try to help I’ll give it 
> another go
>  
> From: 

Re: back up failed

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi Zoe,

No.  The USB key really is too slow for a backup device, although it might work 
for that.  I’m suggesting simply that you ensure that the files you value most 
dearly are somewhere other than either that Mac or that External hard drive.  
That’s all.  Once you’re sure your data is safe, then you may go ahead with 
wiping, backup, upgrade, and so on.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: should it be taking this long?

[Chris Gilland]

Actually, I’ll be traveling a majority of tomorrow back home, as I’m finnishing 
my vacation.

Chris.

> On Nov 20, 2015, at 10:41 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Chris, if you would like to join me on Monday I will be able to make the call 
> to Canada if you're interested in joining in on a three-way call. Contact me 
> throughout the weekend do you my details below seems how I have things going 
> on this weekend.
> Joseph Hudson
> Email
> jhud7...@gmail.com 
> I device support
> Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
> 
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
> 
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Chris Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’d like to say a few things, now that I am catching up on this thread.
>> 
>> Firstly,
>> 
>> I am so sorry, Zoey, that you are feeling this way!  This should absolutely 
>> *never!* be the way anyone should have to feel who is learning a new piece 
>> of technology.  I don’t care if it is an I O S device, a Windows machine, a 
>> mac, etc.
>> 
>> I unfortunately do not have calling to Canada from either a lan line, or a 
>> cell phone, however, I’ll tell you what.  Even if you have to talk to me 
>> this way through the Windows side of things instead of the mac, I’d be 
>> absolutely thrilled to talk to you over Skype, or Facetime, if that would 
>> help.
>> 
>> I promise that you will get this.
>> 
>> Let me just encourage you by saying this:  though I am a very very advanced, 
>> and very quick learner, the mac did take me some time, after only using 
>> Windows to get used to.  It wasn’t so much I didn’t understand it, nor that 
>> I didn’t know how to do certain things with the mac.  I just found it a bit 
>> awkward.
>> 
>> The biggest thing for me was, I was patient, and didn’t allow myself to get 
>> overwhelmed.  When I started to feel frustrated, I put the mac aside, and 
>> just took a break.
>> 
>> Please don’t be so hard on yourself.  And please don’t beat yourself up!  We 
>> all have different learning levels, strategies, and processes for learning 
>> certain things.  For example, I do better when someone actually takes my 
>> hand and guides me step by step.  Once shown, I generally can figure things 
>> out once I know the basics.  On the other hand, others may find this method 
>> very frightening.
>> 
>> You have to find a balance of what works best for you with your given 
>> circumstances.  And, not a single person should tell you you’re asking too 
>> many questions.  I’m sorry, but anyone doing that is a neurotic jerk!
>> 
>> Anyway, I hope this at least gives you some encouragement/motivation.  Don’t 
>> ever feel that there is a stupid question.  The only stupid question is the 
>> one you fail to ask.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:32 PM, joseph hudson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Absolutely, I'm available Monday and Tuesday of next week and then I'm 
>>> traveling Wednesday and Thursday and then backing on Friday. And if you 
>>> just need to talk right now, to keep yourself from crying email me off list 
>>> with the good number or FaceTime details, and we can definitely talk right 
>>> now.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> Email
>>> jhud7...@gmail.com 
>>> I device support
>>> Telephone
>>> 2543007667
>>> Skype
>>> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>>> 
>>> Twitter
>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
>>> 
>>> FaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
 On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Zoe Fiogkos > wrote:
 
 Right now I can’t stop crying and I wouldn’t be any good in making 
 progress, but if your offer stands on Monday I would greatly appreciate it.
 Please forgive me but I was about to give up and stay with windows, but if 
 there is one kind soul out there who can try to help I’ll give it another 
 go
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of joseph hudson
 Sent: November-20-15 9:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
  
 Hi Zoe, I have access to calling to Canada. So I will be more than glad to 
 help you if need be. and I also have a Mac.
 Joseph Hudson
 Email
 jhud7...@gmail.com 
 I device support
 Telephone

Re: should it be taking this long?

[joseph hudson]

Hi Zoe, I have access to calling to Canada. So I will be more than glad to help 
you if need be.  and I also have a Mac.
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com 
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 

Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7...@yahoo.com 
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> No I don't have anyone, but it's obvious that I've driven everyone nuts with 
> so many questions, so just wanted to say thank you and sorry.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
> Sent: November-20-15 8:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
> 
> Do you have a friend who can help you who is local? Sounds like you
> need a lot of training. I know this feeling for I experienced it when
> I first got my Mac four years ago... I think having someone in person
> train you would be less stressful for you.
> Vaughn
> 
> On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>> That sounds correct to me even though I have no idea about these things.
>> What’s your opinion on all of this?  Have you been following my threads?
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
>> Sent: November-20-15 7:58 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>> 
>> Oh, you probably have paragon ntfs installed, and I’ll bet you anything that
>> your drive is partitioned as ntfs instead of mac journaled extended.  That
>> would explain it, if so.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks chris but unfortunately the back up failed because even though c gate
>> gives me the option for mac and pc it tells me something about paragon,
>> sorry I don’t remember exactly and it says its not compatible, and then it
>> tells me if I want to make the disk mac only but I cannot do that because it
>> wants to erase all my files.
>> I have my music, files, documents, etc.  I view and use these files with
>> windows and I cannot get rid of them.  So now I’m stuck again.  Since I
>> can’t use the 64 gb stick I have and the 2 tb c gate drive is not
>> compatible, I cannot back up the mac, therefore I cannot upgrade to el
>> capitan either.  So I spent 3 days killing my brain trying to figure out
>> things on the mac and now it looks like it was all for nothing.
>> Thanks
>> Zoe
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
>> Sent: November-20-15 6:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>> 
>> I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually backing up.
>> I have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine, and from
>> what I vaguely remember her saying, it took somewhere around 5 hours.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:48
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: should it be taking this long?
>> 
>> All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I
>> have an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I
>> know the progress or time left for the back up to finish?
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Re: should it be taking this long?

[Brian Moore]

yep, can do.

like I said in last message, if you are still in Toronto, we can make 
something happen.

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
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On 20/11/2015 9:30 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:


Right now I can’t stop crying and I wouldn’t be any good in making 
progress, but if your offer stands on Monday I would greatly 
appreciate it.


Please forgive me but I was about to give up and stay with windows, 
but if there is one kind soul out there who can try to help I’ll give 
it another go


*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph hudson

*Sent:* November-20-15 9:18 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: should it be taking this long?

Hi Zoe, I have access to calling to Canada. So I will be more than 
glad to help you if need be. and I also have a Mac.


Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7...@gmail.com 

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

Twitter

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage

jhud7...@yahoo.com 

On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Zoe Fiogkos > wrote:

No I don't have anyone, but it's obvious that I've driven everyone
nuts with so many questions, so just wanted to say thank you and
sorry.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: November-20-15 8:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?

Do you have a friend who can help you who is local? Sounds like you
need a lot of training. I know this feeling for I experienced it when
I first got my Mac four years ago... I think having someone in person
train you would be less stressful for you.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos > wrote:

That sounds correct to me even though I have no idea about these
things.
What’s your opinion on all of this?  Have you been following my
threads?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: November-20-15 7:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?

Oh, you probably have paragon ntfs installed, and I’ll bet you
anything that
your drive is partitioned as ntfs instead of mac journaled
extended.  That
would explain it, if so.

Chris.

On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Zoe Fiogkos > wrote:

Thanks chris but unfortunately the back up failed because even
though c gate
gives me the option for mac and pc it tells me something about
paragon,
sorry I don’t remember exactly and it says its not compatible, and
then it
tells me if I want to make the disk mac only but I cannot do that
because it
wants to erase all my files.
I have my music, files, documents, etc.  I view and use these
files with
windows and I cannot get rid of them.  So now I’m stuck again.
 Since I
can’t use the 64 gb stick I have and the 2 tb c gate drive is not
compatible, I cannot back up the mac, therefore I cannot upgrade to el
capitan either.  So I spent 3 days killing my brain trying to
figure out
things on the mac and now it looks like it was all for nothing.
Thanks
Zoe

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: November-20-15 6:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?

I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually
backing up.
I have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine,
and from
what I vaguely remember her saying, it took somewhere around 5 hours.

Chris.

On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, george b > wrote:

Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:48
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: should it be taking this long?

All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up
now.  I
   

RE: should it be taking this long?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

No I don't have anyone, but it's obvious that I've driven everyone nuts with so 
many questions, so just wanted to say thank you and sorry.  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: November-20-15 8:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?

Do you have a friend who can help you who is local? Sounds like you
need a lot of training. I know this feeling for I experienced it when
I first got my Mac four years ago... I think having someone in person
train you would be less stressful for you.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> That sounds correct to me even though I have no idea about these things.
> What’s your opinion on all of this?  Have you been following my threads?
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
> Sent: November-20-15 7:58 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>
> Oh, you probably have paragon ntfs installed, and I’ll bet you anything that
> your drive is partitioned as ntfs instead of mac journaled extended.  That
> would explain it, if so.
>
> Chris.
>
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>
> Thanks chris but unfortunately the back up failed because even though c gate
> gives me the option for mac and pc it tells me something about paragon,
> sorry I don’t remember exactly and it says its not compatible, and then it
> tells me if I want to make the disk mac only but I cannot do that because it
> wants to erase all my files.
> I have my music, files, documents, etc.  I view and use these files with
> windows and I cannot get rid of them.  So now I’m stuck again.  Since I
> can’t use the 64 gb stick I have and the 2 tb c gate drive is not
> compatible, I cannot back up the mac, therefore I cannot upgrade to el
> capitan either.  So I spent 3 days killing my brain trying to figure out
> things on the mac and now it looks like it was all for nothing.
> Thanks
> Zoe
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
> Sent: November-20-15 6:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>
> I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually backing up.
>  I have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine, and from
> what I vaguely remember her saying, it took somewhere around 5 hours.
>
> Chris.
>
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:54 PM, george b  wrote:
>
> Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:48
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: should it be taking this long?
>
> All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I
> have an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I
> know the progress or time left for the back up to finish?
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Re: should it be taking this long?

[joseph hudson]

Absolutely, I'm available Monday and Tuesday of next week and then I'm 
traveling Wednesday and Thursday and then backing on Friday. And if you just 
need to talk right now, to keep yourself from crying email me off list with the 
good number or FaceTime details, and we can definitely talk right now.
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com 
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 

Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7...@yahoo.com 
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> Right now I can’t stop crying and I wouldn’t be any good in making progress, 
> but if your offer stands on Monday I would greatly appreciate it.
> Please forgive me but I was about to give up and stay with windows, but if 
> there is one kind soul out there who can try to help I’ll give it another go
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: November-20-15 9:18 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>  
> Hi Zoe, I have access to calling to Canada. So I will be more than glad to 
> help you if need be. and I also have a Mac.
> Joseph Hudson
> Email
> jhud7...@gmail.com 
> I device support
> Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
> 
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
>  
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>  
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Zoe Fiogkos > > wrote:
>>  
>> No I don't have anyone, but it's obvious that I've driven everyone nuts with 
>> so many questions, so just wanted to say thank you and sorry.  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
>> Sent: November-20-15 8:55 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>> 
>> Do you have a friend who can help you who is local? Sounds like you
>> need a lot of training. I know this feeling for I experienced it when
>> I first got my Mac four years ago... I think having someone in person
>> train you would be less stressful for you.
>> Vaughn
>> 
>> On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That sounds correct to me even though I have no idea about these things.
>> What’s your opinion on all of this?  Have you been following my threads?
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
>> Sent: November-20-15 7:58 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>> 
>> Oh, you probably have paragon ntfs installed, and I’ll bet you anything that
>> your drive is partitioned as ntfs instead of mac journaled extended.  That
>> would explain it, if so.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Zoe Fiogkos > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks chris but unfortunately the back up failed because even though c gate
>> gives me the option for mac and pc it tells me something about paragon,
>> sorry I don’t remember exactly and it says its not compatible, and then it
>> tells me if I want to make the disk mac only but I cannot do that because it
>> wants to erase all my files.
>> I have my music, files, documents, etc.  I view and use these files with
>> windows and I cannot get rid of them.  So now I’m stuck again.  Since I
>> can’t use the 64 gb stick I have and the 2 tb c gate drive is not
>> compatible, I cannot back up the mac, therefore I cannot upgrade to el
>> capitan either.  So I spent 3 days killing my brain trying to figure out
>> things on the mac and now it looks like it was all for nothing.
>> Thanks
>> Zoe
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
>> Sent: November-20-15 6:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>> 
>> I think it really just depends on how much data you are actually backing up.
>> I have a friend who backed up about 300GB of data to Time Machine, and from
>> what I vaguely remember 

Re: should it be taking this long?

[joseph hudson]

Chris, if you would like to join me on Monday I will be able to make the call 
to Canada if you're interested in joining in on a three-way call. Contact me 
throughout the weekend do you my details below seems how I have things going on 
this weekend.
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com 
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 

Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7...@yahoo.com 
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> I’d like to say a few things, now that I am catching up on this thread.
> 
> Firstly,
> 
> I am so sorry, Zoey, that you are feeling this way!  This should absolutely 
> *never!* be the way anyone should have to feel who is learning a new piece of 
> technology.  I don’t care if it is an I O S device, a Windows machine, a mac, 
> etc.
> 
> I unfortunately do not have calling to Canada from either a lan line, or a 
> cell phone, however, I’ll tell you what.  Even if you have to talk to me this 
> way through the Windows side of things instead of the mac, I’d be absolutely 
> thrilled to talk to you over Skype, or Facetime, if that would help.
> 
> I promise that you will get this.
> 
> Let me just encourage you by saying this:  though I am a very very advanced, 
> and very quick learner, the mac did take me some time, after only using 
> Windows to get used to.  It wasn’t so much I didn’t understand it, nor that I 
> didn’t know how to do certain things with the mac.  I just found it a bit 
> awkward.
> 
> The biggest thing for me was, I was patient, and didn’t allow myself to get 
> overwhelmed.  When I started to feel frustrated, I put the mac aside, and 
> just took a break.
> 
> Please don’t be so hard on yourself.  And please don’t beat yourself up!  We 
> all have different learning levels, strategies, and processes for learning 
> certain things.  For example, I do better when someone actually takes my hand 
> and guides me step by step.  Once shown, I generally can figure things out 
> once I know the basics.  On the other hand, others may find this method very 
> frightening.
> 
> You have to find a balance of what works best for you with your given 
> circumstances.  And, not a single person should tell you you’re asking too 
> many questions.  I’m sorry, but anyone doing that is a neurotic jerk!
> 
> Anyway, I hope this at least gives you some encouragement/motivation.  Don’t 
> ever feel that there is a stupid question.  The only stupid question is the 
> one you fail to ask.
> 
> Chris.
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:32 PM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Absolutely, I'm available Monday and Tuesday of next week and then I'm 
>> traveling Wednesday and Thursday and then backing on Friday. And if you just 
>> need to talk right now, to keep yourself from crying email me off list with 
>> the good number or FaceTime details, and we can definitely talk right now.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> Email
>> jhud7...@gmail.com 
>> I device support
>> Telephone
>> 2543007667
>> Skype
>> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>> 
>> Twitter
>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
>> 
>> FaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Zoe Fiogkos >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Right now I can’t stop crying and I wouldn’t be any good in making 
>>> progress, but if your offer stands on Monday I would greatly appreciate it.
>>> Please forgive me but I was about to give up and stay with windows, but if 
>>> there is one kind soul out there who can try to help I’ll give it another go
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: November-20-15 9:18 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>>>  
>>> Hi Zoe, I have access to calling to Canada. So I will be more than glad to 
>>> help you if need be. and I also have a Mac.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> Email
>>> jhud7...@gmail.com 
>>> I device support
>>> Telephone
>>> 2543007667
>>> Skype
>>> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>>> 
>>> Twitter
>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
>>>  
>>> FaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>>>  
 On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Zoe Fiogkos 

How to Delete or "Forget" a WiFi Network in Windows 10

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

To those of you using Windows 10 on your Mac, the following piece comes to
us courtesy of SimpleHelp.com.

If you are using Jaws 16 or later, I strongly suggest that you use the Jaws
Touch Cursor to navigate dialog boxes.

Enjoy and Good Luck,

Mark

How to Delete or "Forget" a WiFi Network in Windows 10 

This brief guide will take you step by step through the process of removing
(also known as "forgetting") a Wireless Network in Windows 10. 

Two of the most common reasons for deleting the connection settings of a
wireless network that you've previously connected to are: 
1.
Troubleshooting a connection that no longer works. 
2.
To stop your device from automatically connecting to networks you don't use
regularly (particularly helpful for laptop and tablet users). 

Here are the quick steps to take in order to remove a wireless network from
Windows 10:
1.
Click the "Start" button and select Settings 
 
2.
Select Network & Internet 
 
3.
Select Wi-Fi from the column on the left side of the window. From the Wi-Fi
panel now displayed on the right side of the window, scroll down to and
select/click Manage Wi-Fi settings 
 
4.
Scroll down to the Manage known networks section. From the list of all of
your "known" (saved) Wi-Fi networks, select the one you want to delete by
clicking on it once. Once it's been selected, a Forget button will appear.
Click that button to remove the associated Wireless Network. 
 
5.
Select each of the other networks you want to delete (if any) and repeat the
"click Forget" process.

That's it!

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RE: back up failed

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Sorry are you saying I should use the usb for the back up?


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: November-20-15 8:52 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: back up failed

Don’t format that disk and don’t use it for Time Machine yet.  Get a copy of 
your data onto a second external drive first.  That USB key will probably do 
just what you want.

Time Machine wants Mac OS X Extended volumes for backups.  That means 
destroying any existing data on the device.  Moreover, Time Machine wants to 
consume as much space as there is available, so sharing Time Machine with other 
uses is not a good idea.

When you’re up and running with El Capitan, shove your important stuff onto 
iCloud Drive, where you can’t accidentally format the drive.

Don’t rush into anything.  There is a tomorrow. :)

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Re: should it be taking this long?

[Chris Gilland]

I’d like to say a few things, now that I am catching up on this thread.

Firstly,

I am so sorry, Zoey, that you are feeling this way!  This should absolutely 
*never!* be the way anyone should have to feel who is learning a new piece of 
technology.  I don’t care if it is an I O S device, a Windows machine, a mac, 
etc.

I unfortunately do not have calling to Canada from either a lan line, or a cell 
phone, however, I’ll tell you what.  Even if you have to talk to me this way 
through the Windows side of things instead of the mac, I’d be absolutely 
thrilled to talk to you over Skype, or Facetime, if that would help.

I promise that you will get this.

Let me just encourage you by saying this:  though I am a very very advanced, 
and very quick learner, the mac did take me some time, after only using Windows 
to get used to.  It wasn’t so much I didn’t understand it, nor that I didn’t 
know how to do certain things with the mac.  I just found it a bit awkward.

The biggest thing for me was, I was patient, and didn’t allow myself to get 
overwhelmed.  When I started to feel frustrated, I put the mac aside, and just 
took a break.

Please don’t be so hard on yourself.  And please don’t beat yourself up!  We 
all have different learning levels, strategies, and processes for learning 
certain things.  For example, I do better when someone actually takes my hand 
and guides me step by step.  Once shown, I generally can figure things out once 
I know the basics.  On the other hand, others may find this method very 
frightening.

You have to find a balance of what works best for you with your given 
circumstances.  And, not a single person should tell you you’re asking too many 
questions.  I’m sorry, but anyone doing that is a neurotic jerk!

Anyway, I hope this at least gives you some encouragement/motivation.  Don’t 
ever feel that there is a stupid question.  The only stupid question is the one 
you fail to ask.

Chris.

> On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:32 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Absolutely, I'm available Monday and Tuesday of next week and then I'm 
> traveling Wednesday and Thursday and then backing on Friday. And if you just 
> need to talk right now, to keep yourself from crying email me off list with 
> the good number or FaceTime details, and we can definitely talk right now.
> Joseph Hudson
> Email
> jhud7...@gmail.com 
> I device support
> Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
> 
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
> 
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Zoe Fiogkos > > wrote:
>> 
>> Right now I can’t stop crying and I wouldn’t be any good in making progress, 
>> but if your offer stands on Monday I would greatly appreciate it.
>> Please forgive me but I was about to give up and stay with windows, but if 
>> there is one kind soul out there who can try to help I’ll give it another go
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: November-20-15 9:18 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>>  
>> Hi Zoe, I have access to calling to Canada. So I will be more than glad to 
>> help you if need be. and I also have a Mac.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> Email
>> jhud7...@gmail.com 
>> I device support
>> Telephone
>> 2543007667
>> Skype
>> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>> 
>> Twitter
>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
>>  
>> FaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>>  
>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Zoe Fiogkos >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> No I don't have anyone, but it's obvious that I've driven everyone nuts 
>>> with so many questions, so just wanted to say thank you and sorry.  
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
>>> Sent: November-20-15 8:55 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: should it be taking this long?
>>> 
>>> Do you have a friend who can help you who is local? Sounds like you
>>> need a lot of training. I know this feeling for I experienced it when
>>> I first got my Mac four years ago... I think having someone in person
>>> train you would be 

Re: VMware interface

[E.T.]

   By menu bar, are you referring to the Applications menu? I set that 
to Never and things looked to get a bit goofy. I will go at it again 
later and look at what happens when I change options one at a time.


   I also turned off the full screen mini bar, not even sure if I used 
that yet.


   Its better. I did find I could not use the standard Windows 
selection method when holding control key and selecting non contiguous 
files. Can that be the Windows 8 keyboard profile?


   I will disable VO while in Windows. Its a bit strange to be in 
Windows and accessing the Apple menu bar.


   Thanks as always for your help.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/20/2015 5:08 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Yes, don’t use Unity.  Switch in and out of full-screen mode with 
Control-Command-F (check Window menu), or carefully operate the VM in 
single-window mode only.  In the View menu, turn off the showing of everything 
in full-screen (not strictly necessary, but safe and cool).  Now in global 
Preferences, set the showing of the menu bar to “Never”.  You should not have 
problems navigating in OS X or Windows, nor any phantom window then.

One more thing: sometimes VoiceOver gets “Stuck” if it was running while you 
are in a VM.  The remedy is to minimise transitions between operating systems, 
or turn VO off while in Windows.  A good idea anyway, of course.



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