Re: Apple Scripts
Right now I tried the following:
I deleted „command down“ in the line which should perform the click. It seems
to work most of the time. Funnily enough it still performs a hold down mouse
key from time to time. But what’s mor of an issue: the click doesn’t always
work. The click sound occurs but the checkmark isn’t always clicked. Any idea?
Did you tried it yourself?
All the best
Jürgen
Am 07.11.2014 um 12:58 schrieb Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net:
Hi Alex,
thanks a lot. It worked so far that the mouse performed a click but obviously
it was not a normal click but a hold down click. So I had to release the
mouse cursor manually. Could you have a look on the script and help me to
understand, wether I’mright in this?
And are you willing to add something in the script so that it performes a
typical single mouse click? That would help me a lot to have such a script.
BTW: Recently I listened to a Podcast by you on Applevis. I enjoy very much
to have now a voice for your name. :-) And I enjoyed your Podcast as well.
Thanks and all the best
Jürgen
Am 06.11.2014 um 21:17 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com:
I don't know about the second one, but I recently made a script similar to
the first one. I use key commands, since the scripting dictionary for
VoiceOver doesn't allow the mouse cursor to be moved. Since you can't change
VO's default commands, though, this should still work.
tell application System Events
key code 96 using {control down, option down, command down}
key code 49 using {control down, option down, command down, shift down}
end tell
On Nov 6, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net
mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
Hi Folks,
I wonder wether it was very complicated to create 2 scripts for the
following tasks:
1. Route the mouse cursor to VO and perform a click.
2. Play a determined sound and restart or shut down the Mac. This might be
for 2 scripts.
If it was not very complicated would there possibly someone in this list
who helped me to accomplish this? Or could someone even create these two or
three scripts and offer them for public usage for free?
Thanks and
all the best
Jürgen
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Re: Apple Scripts
Hi Jonathan, if I add tell mouse to click once Script editor says mouse is a variable and not defined. If I just right click once Script Editor tells me there was an error 4. So that didn't work. Do you still have an idea? Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 07.11.2014 um 13:28 schrieb Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com: You are absolutely right, I did not put in code for clicking the mouse. You will need either tell mouse to click once or possibly just click once The click command has an optional argument so you could say click twice with right button Let us know how this works I have not tried these commands myself. Best wishes, Jonathan On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Jonathan, thanks for your help. I tried it out and it worked partially. What seemed to happen is that the mouse cursor is routed to VO cursor. But no click happens. As far as I can understand the script there's no action defined for that. Is that true? So I wonder wether you are willing to add the lines to perform a click. Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 07.11.2014 um 06:30 schrieb Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com: This should work. tell application VoiceOver tell commander to perform command move mouse pointer to voiceover cursor end tell see http://www.cbtbc.org/tools/asvo/voec.php for details. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Airdrop again.
Hi Andrew, did you switch off Do not disturbe? on the iPad. Sorry, I don't know the correct term on an english machine but it should be quite similar. I accedentally noticed that my Mac doesn't find my iPhone if this mode is switched on. All the best Jürgen Am 07.11.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se: Hi! Its quite frustrating that airdrop does not work together with my mac and ipad. I have looked at the apple site and it says that you have to have a mac from 2010 from what i understand. My is from mid 2011. I have bluetooth on and wifi on but they wont find eachother. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Apple Scripts
Hi Folks, I wonder wether it was very complicated to create 2 scripts for the following tasks: 1. Route the mouse cursor to VO and perform a click. 2. Play a determined sound and restart or shut down the Mac. This might be for 2 scripts. If it was not very complicated would there possibly someone in this list who helped me to accomplish this? Or could someone even create these two or three scripts and offer them for public usage for free? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Shortcut keys for Amadeus Pro
No, the owner seems to have removed the Guides and Tutorials pages. So please try to reach him via e-mail. The address should be on his web side. Jürgen Am 01.10.2014 um 04:52 schrieb Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com: Hi Jürgen, I have been to the site you mention below but I can't find anything referring to Amadeus Pro. Do you know how I could search the archives or something? Thanks again for the help. Max On 30 Sep 2014, at 9:43 pm, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Max, I've learned a lot about Amadeus Pro from the following web side: http://www.lioncourt.com Unfortunately the guides and tutorials side doesn't exist anymore. You might ask the owner wether he could send you the keyboard shortcut list for amadeus pro. Maybe he kept the information and is willing to send it to you. All the best Jürgen Am 30.09.2014 um 03:41 schrieb Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com: Hi all, does anybody know where I can find a list of shortcut keys for Amadeus Pro? I am really struggling to convert a vinyl record to digital. I have listened to a couple of podcasts but I am unable to make the program work as the podcasters do. When I drop markers they don't appear to go where I want them. I do know about CMD Y to bring the ply heads together. Thanks for any help. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Shortcut keys for Amadeus Pro
Hi Max, I've learned a lot about Amadeus Pro from the following web side: http://www.lioncourt.com Unfortunately the guides and tutorials side doesn't exist anymore. You might ask the owner wether he could send you the keyboard shortcut list for amadeus pro. Maybe he kept the information and is willing to send it to you. All the best Jürgen Am 30.09.2014 um 03:41 schrieb Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com: Hi all, does anybody know where I can find a list of shortcut keys for Amadeus Pro? I am really struggling to convert a vinyl record to digital. I have listened to a couple of podcasts but I am unable to make the program work as the podcasters do. When I drop markers they don't appear to go where I want them. I do know about CMD Y to bring the ply heads together. Thanks for any help. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Is Flecksy accessible?
Thanks Christopher, that makes things more clear. Jürgen Am 28.09.2014 um 10:05 schrieb Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com: Fleksy is currently not accessible but that's not the fault of Fleksy. There is a conflict between VoiceOver's Direct Touch and third party keyboards. You have to turn VoiceOver off to use Fleksy right now, however this conflict should go away in time. I have Fleksy on my iPhone 4s but hardly use it. I may just scrap it as I actually enjoy typing on the virtual keyboard, either qwerty or Braille, and so don't really see the need for third party keyboards like Fleksy right now. I even like quick type a lot. Sent from my laptop On 27/09/2014 20:30, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Folks, before iOS 8 I tried Flecksy and for me it was a nice way to make typing easier on my iPhone. Now I can hardly use it because of the following questions: * How can I switch back to a normal keyboard without deleting it from Keyboards in the settings section? * If I'm correct Flecksy started as an app especially for visually impared people. My impression at the moment is it's completely inaccessible to VoiceOver users. Does anyone of you know wether this is correct or do I miss a way to use Flecksy in a productive way using VO? Is Flecksy accessible at all? I'd be glad if anyone could answer this questions. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Is Flecksy accessible?
Hi Folks, before iOS 8 I tried Flecksy and for me it was a nice way to make typing easier on my iPhone. Now I can hardly use it because of the following questions: * How can I switch back to a normal keyboard without deleting it from Keyboards in the settings section? * If I'm correct Flecksy started as an app especially for visually impared people. My impression at the moment is it's completely inaccessible to VoiceOver users. Does anyone of you know wether this is correct or do I miss a way to use Flecksy in a productive way using VO? Is Flecksy accessible at all? I'd be glad if anyone could answer this questions. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Braille display and VO on the Mac
Hi Joe and the others, at first: thanks for your responses. @Joe: Just search in VO Settings program under braille and you'll find a lot of stuff that might be good to know. All the best Jürgen Am 04.09.2014 um 22:24 schrieb Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com: Is there some sort of tutorial or something that shows people how to use braille on the Mac? I love using it on the iPhone, but wanna learn how to use it on the Mac. I mean, come on, I bought those things :-) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: It's usable, but there are some bugs and you just have to work around them until they get fixed. As noted before, don't expect it to be like what you would find running JAWS or something on Windows. If you have used braille on iOS, the experience is fairly close to that in terms of typing with the display. Scott On 9/3/14, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Well, i could say a lot about braille on the mac. Most of it is really negative. Tbut i can make a summary. Don't expect it to be like using jaws with windows or any linux based screenreader. They have a lot to improve which i've tried to tell them. Hopfully they will listen. /A 1 sep 2014 kl. 20:02 skrev Gerard Doody jerrydood...@gmail.com: Hi There, I think it depends on which display you are using. I have found that for use on a computer, the shorter ones, with 12, 18, even 32 characters might not suite. However, if you have a 40 cell it works pretty well. Oh, also it depends on you skills using both the mac and braille. I am a life-long braille user and I have connected a focus 40 and a braillepen12 to my macbookpro. hth Jerry Doody jerrydood...@gmail.com On Sep 1, 2014, at 11:31 am, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hello, Here's a question to you who uses braille displays on a dayly base. Would you say it's easiely possible to use braille as the main output device? Or would you say braille on the Mac is too buggy and doesn't work to well? For example: I saw braille used in Wikipedia and it was a catastrophy. But maybe you know a way of using it efficiantly. I'd be glad for all of your hints. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Braille display and VO on the Mac
Hello, Here's a question to you who uses braille displays on a dayly base. Would you say it's easiely possible to use braille as the main output device? Or would you say braille on the Mac is too buggy and doesn't work to well? For example: I saw braille used in Wikipedia and it was a catastrophy. But maybe you know a way of using it efficiantly. I'd be glad for all of your hints. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Smart Mailboxes
Hi, since Mavericks I experience a lot of trouble using smart mailboxes. From time to time they loose the rules I set. I use the same smart mailboxes on several Macs and so it could also be an issue caused by this. Does anyone of you experience similar issues with smart mailboxes? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Dashboard and VO under Mavericks
Hi Andrew, Dashboard is quite accessible but it depends on the widget and how it is programed. So it might happen that some content in a widget is accessible and some may not. To install or deinstall widgets you could just copy them to or delete them from their folder on your HD. All the best Jürgen Am 19.08.2014 um 23:01 schrieb Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com: Dear Listers, Is DAshboard at all accessible under Mavericks? I've listened to a podcast from Applevis on dashboard and it seemed quite accessible but I'm not sure from the podcast whether it was on mavericks on not. I've tried to follow the instructions from the podcast to access the menu options for adding or removing widgets but they do not seem to work. I wonder what your experiences with dashboard may be. Many thanks Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Smart Mailboxes
Hi, thanks for discussing the use of smart mailboxes. But did I get it right, nobody has issues with this type of mailboxes? Jürgen Am 22.08.2014 um 21:37 schrieb Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu: Hi, I'm new to MAC. Are Smart Mailboxes part of MAC Mail, or are they a category of app to download? If the latter, any specific apps you'd recommend? How do you set up a Smart Mailbox for otherwise uncategorized messages, as described below? If the messages are in both Smart Mail and Inbox, do users of Smart Mail just skip around among the various Smart Mailboxes and never need to look in the Inbox? Thanks in advance, Keith -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Oyen Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 2:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Smart Mailboxes Thats entirely the purpose of smart mail boxes. Allows you to organize depending on type (such as email address, subject or any of a number of other things). Because of the number of mailing lists I am on, I simply have a smart mailbox for each one. I also have an unread messages smart mailbox that excludes messages to the others, this way, I can look for uncategorized mail from friends. So far, this has made my life in email a lot easier to deal with. You do have to be careful about what criteria that you use. The wrong ones can lead to a lot of confusion. Anyway, thats how I use smart mail boxes. -eric On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: I don't think so. I believe it just groups message together. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:30, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote: So does smart box behave like a VIP box? I don't understand why you'd want a smart box. Please explain. Kawal. On 22 Aug 2014, at 01:11 pm, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: With a smart mailbox, you can have certain rules set up. I have a smart mailbox for all mac visionaries message to go to the smart mailbox called mac visionaries. The only problem, all the messages still show up in your inbox. So if you delete a message from the inbox, you lose it from the smart mailbox. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: Highlighting a column in Numbers
Hi Tim, great, that worked. Thanks a lot. All the best Jürgen Am 05.07.2014 um 23:59 schrieb Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Hi, Press VO-shift-back slash, then arrow down once. VO will announce Column, press return. When in the Column Headers, VO-space on the column you wish selected in its entirety. Back out of the headers with VO-shift-back-slash and Stop Interacting with the Table. If you bring focus back to the Table without Interacting with it, VO should read so many rows, so many columns and announce that that many rows are selected. If you wish to format these selected cells, go into the Formatter area and do so. If you Interact With the Table, the selected cells should remain selected as long as you don't move to a different cell. If you wish to move around within the table, turn Cursor Tracking off with VO-shift-f3. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 5, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: It doesn't work that way as far as I can tell. VoiceOver doesn't anounce anything about highlighting or so, unfortunately. Any other ideas? Thanks Jürgen Am 05.07.2014 um 15:30 schrieb Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com: Clicking the column header you know, a, B, etc. That will select of the column. Another way to do it is simply to hold the shift key and press command down arrow while you're at the top of the column. That should select the entire column. Sent from my IPhone On Jul 3, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Folks, I remember a way to highlight a column at once by moving the cursor to the column head by pressing VO + Shift + Apostrophy (on german keyboards) and choosing columns from the upcomming menue. So far so good. But I can't remember what to press next to highlight the complete column at once. VO + Spacebar didn't work as well as bringing up the context menue. So could someone help me please to highlight the whole column? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Highlighting a column in Numbers
Hey cool, works as well. Thanks for the hint. Am 06.07.2014 um 14:45 schrieb Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com: Don't forget, another, possibly faster method is to simply press shift command down arrow from the top of the column in the entire column will be selected. Sent from my IPhone On Jul 6, 2014, at 2:25 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Tim, great, that worked. Thanks a lot. All the best Jürgen Am 05.07.2014 um 23:59 schrieb Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Hi, Press VO-shift-back slash, then arrow down once. VO will announce Column, press return. When in the Column Headers, VO-space on the column you wish selected in its entirety. Back out of the headers with VO-shift-back-slash and Stop Interacting with the Table. If you bring focus back to the Table without Interacting with it, VO should read so many rows, so many columns and announce that that many rows are selected. If you wish to format these selected cells, go into the Formatter area and do so. If you Interact With the Table, the selected cells should remain selected as long as you don't move to a different cell. If you wish to move around within the table, turn Cursor Tracking off with VO-shift-f3. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 5, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: It doesn't work that way as far as I can tell. VoiceOver doesn't anounce anything about highlighting or so, unfortunately. Any other ideas? Thanks Jürgen Am 05.07.2014 um 15:30 schrieb Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com: Clicking the column header you know, a, B, etc. That will select of the column. Another way to do it is simply to hold the shift key and press command down arrow while you're at the top of the column. That should select the entire column. Sent from my IPhone On Jul 3, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Folks, I remember a way to highlight a column at once by moving the cursor to the column head by pressing VO + Shift + Apostrophy (on german keyboards) and choosing columns from the upcomming menue. So far so good. But I can't remember what to press next to highlight the complete column at once. VO + Spacebar didn't work as well as bringing up the context menue. So could someone help me please to highlight the whole column? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com
Highlighting a column in Numbers
Hi Folks, I remember a way to highlight a column at once by moving the cursor to the column head by pressing VO + Shift + Apostrophy (on german keyboards) and choosing columns from the upcomming menue. So far so good. But I can't remember what to press next to highlight the complete column at once. VO + Spacebar didn't work as well as bringing up the context menue. So could someone help me please to highlight the whole column? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Highlighting a column in Numbers
It doesn't work that way as far as I can tell. VoiceOver doesn't anounce anything about highlighting or so, unfortunately. Any other ideas? Thanks Jürgen Am 05.07.2014 um 15:30 schrieb Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com: Clicking the column header you know, a, B, etc. That will select of the column. Another way to do it is simply to hold the shift key and press command down arrow while you're at the top of the column. That should select the entire column. Sent from my IPhone On Jul 3, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Folks, I remember a way to highlight a column at once by moving the cursor to the column head by pressing VO + Shift + Apostrophy (on german keyboards) and choosing columns from the upcomming menue. So far so good. But I can't remember what to press next to highlight the complete column at once. VO + Spacebar didn't work as well as bringing up the context menue. So could someone help me please to highlight the whole column? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: You Tube player for iPhone
Hi Ray, thanks for the hints. They made it. Now it seems to me to work much better for me. I'm happy about that. :-) All the best Jürgen Am 21.05.2014 um 00:57 schrieb Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net: Oh my friend, youplayer is truly one of the best players for youtube for IOS. Once you click on a video, it takes a short moment to load and then it starts playing automatically. It will help if you make the following changes. 1. set to always play landscape. 2. Set full screen playback to on. That will make things a whole lot easier. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On May 20, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, does anyone know of an accessible and easy to use You Tube player for iOS? I've tried You Tube and You Player. Both are OK somehow but not realy VO friendly. In You Player for example, I couldn't find the play and pause button reliably. Thanks for your tips Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
You Tube player for iPhone
Hi, does anyone know of an accessible and easy to use You Tube player for iOS? I've tried You Tube and You Player. Both are OK somehow but not realy VO friendly. In You Player for example, I couldn't find the play and pause button reliably. Thanks for your tips Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: problem after most recent Mavericks update
I know of this issue but it just occurs with the inbuilt voices. It also happens if I switch between apps on my Mac. Using german voices it helps to use the compact voices. Than it doesn't take too long to hear again the voice. All the best Jürgen Am 07.05.2014 um 12:58 schrieb isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com: Yes I have noticed that to every time I use a voice for an activity it takes a while to load. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On May 7, 2014, at 5:02 AM, Piotr Machacz piterm...@gmail.com wrote: The only speech loss I've been seeing is only with Vocalizer voices and activities. If VO switches activities while you're using a vocaliser voice, it seems to take a few seconds to load for a few reason. Apart from that I haven't seen anything else relating to losing speech. On 06 May 2014, at 10:55 pm, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, Yes, I have been having problems. I associated them with installing Airfoil, but it could easily be the Mavericks update that started the same issue. Turning VO off and on again gets my audio back though. Cheers Dave On 6 May 2014, at 21:39, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote: Hi all, I'm having a problem where I loose voiceover speech for several seconds periodically. I can't see a pattern to the speech loss, and it eventually comes back. I've been noticing this since the last Mavericks update. I took the machine into the Apple store and the tech cleaned up a bunch of thigs and also said that other people have been having problems since the last update also. I haven't seen anything on the list regarding this, and wonder if others are having issues since the last update. When I do have speech, the imac seems to work just fine. Thanks, Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Tap Forms nad e-Mails for groups
Hi Folks, if I have e-mail addresses in several entries in Tap Forms, is it possible to send some or all of them an e-mail or is it just possible to send an e-mail using the button in one entry. If I can send one e-mail to several entries could you please explain how it works? I want to build up a data base of customers and want to send an offering to all customers at once. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Loudness issues
Hi, last year I bought a new MacBook Air mid 2013. Ever since I have a loudness issue with VO. It happens that VO sways in the loudness up and down. Sometimes it's fine for a while but then again it sways up and down. At first I suspected my computer. But then I heard this loudness swaying on other Macs as well. But: I only heard it on Macs using german voices. So what about you guys? Do you have such issues with your english voices? Or what about others who use non german language? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Loudness issues
Hi, thanks for all your answers and sharing your experiences. That's very valuable. Now I know the english speaking users don't experience this. I wished it was so simple. But unfortunately it's not connected to Ducking. I know the ducking function and I think it's a good idea of Apples. The issue I discribed is a real swaying of loudness that sometimes takes 10 seconds to take place. I suspect the german voices of nuance that don't work properly together with VO. But thanks again and all the best Jürgen Am 27.04.2014 um 18:31 schrieb Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Hi, It sounds like Audio Ducking is enabled. What Audio Ducking does is lower the volume of VO when certain things are happening so that whatever the OS thinks is priority can be heard. I prefer that VO is my priority so I've turned Audio Ducking off. You do this in the Sound (cmd-6) pane of the VO Utility. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, last year I bought a new MacBook Air mid 2013. Ever since I have a loudness issue with VO. It happens that VO sways in the loudness up and down. Sometimes it's fine for a while but then again it sways up and down. At first I suspected my computer. But then I heard this loudness swaying on other Macs as well. But: I only heard it on Macs using german voices. So what about you guys? Do you have such issues with your english voices? Or what about others who use non german language? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Garageband for mac, a great update!
Hi Daniela, could you say something wether it's possible to change just a part of a track? For example if I want to set an effect to maybe just one sound in a track in earlier versions of GB I had to cut this part out, copy it to another empty track, do the work there and copy it back to its original place. A bit work for a little effect. Is this now easier? And can I create a curve for volume? Thanks Jürgen Am 20.03.2014 um 22:46 schrieb Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com: Hello all! Just that, All musicians, go for it, because it si just fantastic. Smart controls and effects are now posible to manage, and the problem of bringing loops to a track is solved. The untagged buttons now are perfect, among other Characteristics. Give it a try and enjoy! Best! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: daisy software for the mac
I know of Olearia but I didn't use it for a while. So I'm not aware wether it works under Mavericks. http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia/ All the best Jürgen Am 07.03.2014 um 11:50 schrieb Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com: well there was readhearpro but not sure if it is still around. I have been having problems with it reading bookshare books and I emailed them but never got a response from the company. Jim On Mar 7, 2014, at 3:48 AM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote: Hmm, is there software out there yet for the mac that will read all daisy books? May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
taptapsee. For what?
Hi there, I'd like to become inspired by your experiences with taptapsee. All people I know of who uses taptapsee have just played around with it. But honnestely: I don't need my iPhone to tell me that there is a chair in front of me or my guide dog or the main station. All these I know anyway. But obviously in this mailinglist are a lot of users who do real practical things with it and find it really useful. I'd like to benefit from your experiences and so my question is: What do you do with taptapsee? For what do you use it except for funny usage? Thanks for your inspiring hints and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: playing a internet stream with airplay
Hi William, So, how can I play a stream (with itunes) so that I can hear also the music in my airplay speakers? Somewhere in the system preferences you can choose Airplay as the main output. I don't remember exactly where because I use something that suits me better: Airfoil for Mac. Here you can decide what App should be routed to which output speaker. All the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: taptapsee. For what?
Hi there, thanks so much for your answers. I now see more clearly for what I could use it in a meaningful way. I might try it out with a fifty pictures subscription. Seem to me to be a good value to try it out this way. All the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Blue tooth headset
Hi, I can reccommend the Plantronics Voyager Legend or, and this is a really smal nice one, the Plantronics M155. Both support VoiceOver and music and they are single ear headsets. All the best Jürgen Am 21.02.2014 um 06:43 schrieb David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com: Well, there are several factors to consider. First, the headset must support the A2DP (AADP) profile. This profile is the stereo music channel, so almost all stereo bluetooth headsets support it. If the headset states it plays music, whether single ear or both ears, it most probably supports A2DP. When shopping online, check the tech specs to be certain. No brands support A2DP profile across their entire line. Usually, the more expensive bluetooth earpieces and headsets support A2DP. Are you looking for a single earpiece or a stereo headset. The single earpiece is more likely to not support A2DP. If A2DP is supported, VO will automatically work through the headset. If not supported, VO will only come through the headset during a call. Otherwise, VO will speak through the device speaker, just as it does currently. If you want two-device simeltaneous support, the Motorola elite series, Motorola H17TXT and H19TXT, and the PlanTronics Legend, all support this. Also, all of these headsets are one ear, and have spoken prompts and announcements. Most modern headsets are able to auto-pair when selected in the phone so one does not need to enter a four digit pin. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Feb 2014, at 13:47, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: I hope I don't sound too incredibly stupid but I am shopping for a bluetooth headset and I am quite lost. Is there a list somewhere of blind friendly bluetooth headphones/headsets that are compatible with iOS devices and macs? Also, If I happen to use a headset that does not work with VO on my iPhone will VO still have sound output from the speaker on my iPhone but just not on the headphones? Or will the voiceover be completely mute to me? I am on the hunt for a super easy to use headset that will pair very easily where maybe I don't have to type in a code to pair it all the time because I would like a headset that I can use with several devices. Like my Mac, my iPhone and a bluetooth transmitter I am going to purchase that I can stick in the headphone jack for various audio devices in my home. It would be great if it could pair automatically, if that feature even exists. :) Thanks for any help pointing me in the right direction. Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Box Sync bogs down menu extras.
Hi Daniel, yes, I experience the same issue. It happens if my MacBook is not connected to the internet. Seems to me as if Box tries to synchronize without success what causes a kind of VoiceOver busy issue. All the best Jürgen Am 21.02.2014 um 04:59 schrieb Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com: Hello everyone! Recently about a month ago I have installed a cloud storage service called Box Sync, I took advantage of their offer of 50 gb. At the time I have installed it, it was very accessable. But lately for the past two weeks I have noticed that my menu extras is very very slow, it would take me 5 min to just check the battery. I narrowed it down to Box. Once I quit the app, menu extras runs just fine. I was wondering if anyone have tried this and have the same problem? Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Closing the preview pane automatically in Mail.
The same here. The script shows just an error message something index wasn't found. So it might be great to improve the script. Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 18.02.2014 um 13:19 schrieb Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com: Ok, I'm going to sound like a total dweeb, but what do we do with this script? This will be great if it works! Thanks! Cait On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote: The attached AppleScript closes all Message viewers and then opens one up without the preview pane. This should prevent the preview pane from re-appearing. I don't know if anybody else has gotten this to work since there were discussions on the Apple forums about errors when trying to turn off the preview pane. Script starts on the next line. use AppleMail : application id com.apple.mail activate AppleMail repeat with vw in message viewers close vw's window end repeat set mywin to make new message viewer without preview pane is visible ** Best wishes, Jonathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: how to delete ann iTunes library
Wouldn't it be easier for you to select songs and create a playlist of theM? Jürgen Am 13.02.2014 um 13:39 schrieb Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com: When in the iTunes library it shows checkboxes are checked. I am assuming these checkboxes tell iTunes what songs you want to hear but I want to uncheck them so I can pick my on. They are in the song view just to the left of the name of the song your playing. On Feb 12, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Scott, it works the other way round: create a new library by holding the option key down while you are starting iTunes. Now you can choose wether to create a new one or to choose from another source. I didn't get waht you ment by the second question. All the best Jürgen Am 11.02.2014 um 13:39 schrieb Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com: Hello there, A couple questions about the library. 1. How do you delete the library? 2. How do I ensure that none of the check boxes are checked once the library is imported? Thanks a bunch. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: how to delete ann iTunes library
Hi Scott, it works the other way round: create a new library by holding the option key down while you are starting iTunes. Now you can choose wether to create a new one or to choose from another source. I didn't get waht you ment by the second question. All the best Jürgen Am 11.02.2014 um 13:39 schrieb Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com: Hello there, A couple questions about the library. 1. How do you delete the library? 2. How do I ensure that none of the check boxes are checked once the library is imported? Thanks a bunch. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Popup Menus in Numbers
Hi Tim and Nic, could you tell me how to create a pop up menue in Numbers? I looked for this posibility but couldn't find it. Same thing with checkmarks. Do you know where to find them as well? Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 23.01.2014 um 16:38 schrieb Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com: Hi Nick, Try this with pop-ups: 1. Navigate to the cell with the pop-up menu. 2. Route the mouse to the VO-cursor with VO-cmd-f5. 3. Turn on Mouse-keys. (Press the Option key five times if you’ve set this up in System Preferences.) 4. Go right 85 to 90 times. (Letter “o” on a laptop or smaller keyboard and NumPad 6 on a extended keyboard) 5. Click the mouse-keys mouse. (Letter “i” on a laptop or smaller keyboard and NumPad 5 on an extended keyboard) 6. Turn off mouse-keys. (Same process as #3) 7. Move through the pop-up as you normally would. This doesn’t solve the issue that VO doesn’t tell you that you’re actually on a pop-up menu cell nor is it particularly pretty. The 85 to 90 pixels right may change depending on the width of your cells but this appears to work for a standard width cell. This mouse-keys stuff sometimes works in apps that the developer has placed custom elements in that aren’t visible to VO. It’s a lot of trial and error though to actually figure out something useful for the VO user. WorkGroup Manager has an entire section that is coded with some sort of custom element and I need to mouse-keys down 250 or so then left or right about 140 (or some other numbers I’ve had to determine) to activate specific preference panes for managing MacOS clients. This is a huge pain for me, has been this way since the start of VO in Tiger and Apple has yet to address it as far as I know. It’s especially frustrating when I’m interrupted and lose count or just lose count when my mind wanders. Anyway, give this method a try and see if it works for you. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 23, 2014, at 5:37 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Just a little more info on the popup menu issue in Numbers, but still no solution, unfortunately. I got my girlfriend to check, and she says that just clicking on the cell doesn't do anything. There's a little triangle or arrow below or next to the cell though, and clicking on this brings up what she describes as a drop down menu, rather than a popup menu. I couldn't find a way to make use of this info to activate the popup menu with VoiceOver, but perhaps someone else can. With hope, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: apple mail back to default?
Go to your user / Library / Mail and delete the content. But for security reasons you should make a backup of the content into another folder. All the best Jürgen Am 22.01.2014 um 23:34 schrieb Kliphton --- kliph...@outlook.com: Hi, had to do this once on mountain lion, but can't remember how. How do I reset apple mail back to just like new? I know there is a folder to delete, and it will act just like new when you open, does anyone remember what it is? I have already googled this, and no go, so that is why I ask the group. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using pages, templates.
Hi Anne and Nic, thank you very much for your help. It worked fine. Interestengly enough it seems to me there are different context menues. The way I knew to open the context menue was to turn trackpad commander off and click with two fingers at the same time. I assumed it's the same context menue as if I clicked with one finger holding the control key down. But thanks to Nic I now know better. :-) All the best to you both Jürgen Am 21.01.2014 um 06:47 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com: HI Jürgen, To add to Anne's explanation, to delete or rename templates from the templates chooser (i.e. the dialog that appears when you press command-n to open a new document) just navigate to it, bring the mouse and do a physical control-click with a TrackPad or similar. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: How to Delete a Table in Numbers
Hi Nic, here it worked this way: Set the VO-Cursor to the table you want to delete, open the context menue by pressing VO + Shift + m and choose Cut. All the best Jürgen Am 21.01.2014 um 07:15 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com: Hi all, How do you delete a table in Numbers? Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Pages
Hi, what are the forms called in english that I can choose from after I opened Pages? I mean Empty or Modern Letter and so on. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages
Hi Anne, thank you so much for your efforts. :-) That really helps me very much. All the best Jürgen Am 21.01.2014 um 19:39 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Jürgen, Here are the names of the predefined templates in Pages: Under Basic: Blank, Blank Landscape, Note Taking. Under Reports: Essay, Term Paper, School Report, Visual Report, Research Paper, Modern Report, Project Proposal. Under Letters: Classic Letter, Modern Letter, Business Letter, Traditional Letter, Photo Letter, Elegant Letter, Bold Type Letter, Informal Letter. Under Resumes: Curriculum Vitae, Classic Resume, Modern Resume, Business Resume, Elegant Resume, Bold Type Resume, Informal Resume. Under Envelopes: Business Envelope, Classic Envelope, Modern Envelope, Business Envelope, Elegant Envelope, Bold Type Envelope, Informal Envelope(The two Business Envelopes are apparently different). Under Business Cards: Classic Business Cards, Modern Business Cards, Business Cards, Elegant Business Cards, Bold Type Business Cards, Informal Business Cards. Under Flyers Posters: For Rent Flyer, For Sale Flyer, Tab Flyer, Real Estate Flyer, Lost Found Flyer, Photo Poster Small, Photo Poster Big, Event Poster Small, Event Poster Big, Party Poster Small, Party Poster Big, School Poster Small, School Poster Big, Type Poster Small, Type Poster Big. Under Cards: Photo Card Vertical, Photo Card Horizontal, Birthday Card, Real Estate Postcard, Event Postcard, Moving Postcard. Under Miscellaneous: Invoice, Elegant Brochure. Under Newsletter: Classic Newsletter, Journal Newsletter, Simple Newsletter, Serif Newsletter. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jan 2014, at 17:55, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, what are the forms called in english that I can choose from after I opened Pages? I mean Empty or Modern Letter and so on. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using pages, templates.
Hello, does anyone know where Pages stores the templates? I created some test templates and can't find the place where they are stored. What I found on the internet was just for Pages 09 and that doesn't work anymore. Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 20.01.2014 um 06:30 schrieb Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com: Hey Nick. Do these courses cost? If so, how much? Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The rectangular items are usually just items to help the layout. Some are also for titles or addresses and the like. The key thing is to interact with the relevant text area before you can type over the place holder text. You Must also use the arrow keys with QuickNav turned off in order to select the place holder text before typing over it. Without knowing the exact template you're using it's hard to give more specific information than that. If you want someone to talk you through it as you're using the template I recommend taking one of Anne and Archie's Pages courses. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Text edit
Hi Lisette, if I understoud correctly you've already tried pressing CMD + Shift + w. So did you reset VO by pressing CMD + F5 four times. I just have this behaviour sometimes in Pages but not in Textedit. What I do then is dragging the mouse cursor to the VO cursor and performing a mouse click. All the best Jürgen Am 16.01.2014 um 09:12 schrieb Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com: Hi, Can somebody please remind me how to deal with Text Edit under Mavericks? When I open a 14 page file, I can’t seem to move character by character which I can do if I open a new file. In the 14 page file, I also can’t easily move around. I’ve tried the window rap and page rap but there’s no difference. Command left and right arrow don’t move to the beginning and end of lines, for example. Any hints very welcome. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: sony sound forge pro
Hi, Sound Forge for Mac is very much accessible in terms of basic functionalities. Navigating and editing works fine. Recording isn't accessible. All you can do is start and stop a recording but the Mac gets very hot then and VO says busy busy. So that's not fun at least to me. When it comes to more advanced editing functions VO doesn't read properly the contents of the windows. And what I miss very much is the scrubb functionality of the windows version by pressing j or l. That doesn't exist in the Mac version. But beside of that it works fine for simple editing. But in my opinion it's to expensive just for that. All the best Jürgen Am 29.12.2013 um 20:43 schrieb Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com: Sound Forge is definitely accessible on Windows. I don’t know about the Mac. I suspect not, or otherwise people would be using it. Lisette On 30/12/2013, at 7:50 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Wondering the same thing but cannot ever seem to get an answer here. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Mario Navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: hello someone already tested this app and if it is accessible? someone uses? cheers. A mulher é o negro do mundo. A mulher é a escrava dos escravos. Se ela tenta ser livre, tu dizes que ela não te ama. Se ela pensa, tu dizes que ela quer ser homem. John Lennon Mario Navarro mario@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dictation in Mavericks
Hi, yes I have the same issue. It accurs just under the following circumstances: 1. It just happens in Mail. 2. It just happens with the offline version of Dictation. 3. It just happens if dictating several sentences without stopping it by pressing FN twice. Mainly it happens here if dictating minimum five or six sentences in a row. I experienced it on two different MacBook Airs and so it seems to be a general issue that's worth to report to Apple. All the best Jürgen Am 30.12.2013 um 09:06 schrieb Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com: Thanks, guess it's just my hilarious luck. I don't dictate a lot but would be nice if it worked instead of causing my mail to crash every time. Guess I will be calling Apple later today On Dec 30, 2013, at 1:44 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Never had this problem. Sent from my iPhone On 30 Dec 2013, at 06:42 am, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: So I just installed Mavericks on my Mac Air, and have been pleasantly surprised at the lack of headaches, as I have read about all the issues. I tried using dictation, and have selected all the appropriate preferences and installed the extra patch to allow offline dictation, and here is where it gets hilarious. Every time I try and dictate a message in mail, dictation causes mail to crash, tried it five times and mail crashed five times asking me if I want to send an error report. Just wanted to see if others are having this issue, or if anyone knows how to fix this. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
MB Air 11 2012 sluggish with Mavericks
Hi Mavericks Users, I experience a MacBook Air 11 from 2012 as very sluggish under Mavericks using Apples german Voices. Especially if I change the active program using CMD + Tab. This issue does not accur if I use the english voice Alex. So I got just very little hope that someone can confirm this issue here. But who knows. :-) Do you have an idea how to solve this issue? I wondered wether it might be helpful to delete the downloaded voices and download them again. Maybe there's something wrong with the installation. Does anyone know where I can find the voice files for Voiceovers voices? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Renaming a table in the new Numbers using Mavericks
Hi Anne, thanks for the hint. Could you please explain what exactly means to turn on mouse keys? Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 07.12.2013 um 21:07 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Here’s a way to rename a table in the new Numbers. • Navigate to cell A1. • Bring the mouse. • Turn on Mouse keys. • Press 8 until you hear something like “A reference tab. • Press ‘i’ 3 times. • Turn Mouse Keys off then type the new name for the table. The same trick works in the new Pages. Cheers, Anne On 7 Dec 2013, at 19:42, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yes, I guess I didn’t quite answer the original question, sorry. Renaming the Sheet is different than renaming the Table within that Sheet. I tried for a while to see if I could get at the Table name but was unsuccessful. I did, though, determine that I could get to the Row and Column reference headers by pressing the VO-back slash. So, when in a Table, press VO-backslash, then either VO-up or VO-down to choose between Row or Column references. Press VO-space to get within your desired area then you can move through A, B, C etc or 1, 2, 3 etc. Press VO-space on the Column or Row reference to select the entire column or row. Hopefully, we’ll be able to figure out a way of renaming the actual table. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 6, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The inspector is visible by default. In fact, I'm not sure if it can be hidden. There is an option to hide/show Inspector in View Inspector, command-option-i, but this doesn't seem to have any effect for VoiceOver at least. You can, however, choose to toggle between the format inspector or the filter inspector. This option is in the toolbar as well as in View Inspector. The inspector is called Format Group whichever inspector it is, but its contents changes. I know to change the name of a table one needs to select the table radio button in the format inspector, check the table name checkbox, and then click the name of the table which appears above the table. However, I can't seem to find or navigate to the table name with VoiceOver. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Renaming a table in the new Numbers using Mavericks
Hi Anne and thanks for your answer. As always, very helpful to me. :-) All the best Jürgen Am 08.12.2013 um 10:00 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Jürgen, You’ll find Mouse Keys under Accessibility in System Preferences. The default hot key to toggle Mouse keys on and off is Option 5 times. When Mouse Keys is on, the 9 keys with the letter ‘i’ at the centre, take control of the mouse which you click with the letter ‘i’. So, to move the mouse upwards, you keep pressing the 8 key, and to move it downwards, you press the letter ‘k’. To make good use of Mouse keys, you need to have VoiceOver announce what is under the mouse with no delay. You set this in VoiceOver Utility, Verbosity category, announcements tab. The check box is Speak text under mouse after delay after which comes the slider that you set to zero. Cheers, Anne On 8 Dec 2013, at 09:32, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Anne, thanks for the hint. Could you please explain what exactly means to turn on mouse keys? Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 07.12.2013 um 21:07 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Here’s a way to rename a table in the new Numbers. • Navigate to cell A1. • Bring the mouse. • Turn on Mouse keys. • Press 8 until you hear something like “A reference tab. • Press ‘i’ 3 times. • Turn Mouse Keys off then type the new name for the table. The same trick works in the new Pages. Cheers, Anne On 7 Dec 2013, at 19:42, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yes, I guess I didn’t quite answer the original question, sorry. Renaming the Sheet is different than renaming the Table within that Sheet. I tried for a while to see if I could get at the Table name but was unsuccessful. I did, though, determine that I could get to the Row and Column reference headers by pressing the VO-back slash. So, when in a Table, press VO-backslash, then either VO-up or VO-down to choose between Row or Column references. Press VO-space to get within your desired area then you can move through A, B, C etc or 1, 2, 3 etc. Press VO-space on the Column or Row reference to select the entire column or row. Hopefully, we’ll be able to figure out a way of renaming the actual table. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 6, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: The inspector is visible by default. In fact, I'm not sure if it can be hidden. There is an option to hide/show Inspector in View Inspector, command-option-i, but this doesn't seem to have any effect for VoiceOver at least. You can, however, choose to toggle between the format inspector or the filter inspector. This option is in the toolbar as well as in View Inspector. The inspector is called Format Group whichever inspector it is, but its contents changes. I know to change the name of a table one needs to select the table radio button in the format inspector, check the table name checkbox, and then click the name of the table which appears above the table. However, I can't seem to find or navigate to the table name with VoiceOver. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out
Voice Dream Reader
Hi Folks, does anyone know what the tild right or left functionality in Voice Dream Reader does? I couldn't find out what it does and couldn't find an explanation in the help section. Thanks for help in advance Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Offline dictation available in Mavericks
Hi, could you send a link or could you explain how to do this? All the best Jürgen Am 25.10.2013 um 18:20 schrieb Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com: Hi all, I’ve just stumbled across the ability to be able to dictate offline using Mavericks, as long as you’re prepared to spare 500MB of disc space. Under Mountain Lion as with iOS, you needed an Internet connection and it was done over Apple’s servers. Apologies if this has already been posted to the list, but I haven’t seen it and thought it may be of interest. Cheers, Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: hq voices in iOS 7?
Hi Tim oh boy, what a strange thing to do on my iPad 3. Actually I expected the same way you described in your e-mail. That's how it worked on my iPhone as well. But here it was more strange: The hq voice in german weren't show up on its own. So I tried to download hq german voice in VoiceOver language rotor settings. But the switch for german was dimmed. Then I checked wether it was possible to download another language in hq quality. This time I was lucky. I could download hq UK Daniel. After I installed Daniel hq I was able to install german Anna hq. After the installation of Anna hq the standard voice - which in my case is german - shifted to hq as well. Now I have a standard hq voice but I had to install a german hq voice for the rotor before. Isn't that strange? All the best Jürgen Am 04.10.2013 um 22:41 schrieb Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com: Hi, Yes, these will work on the iPad. I installed them on my wife's iPad 2 with no issues at all. 1. Go into Settings-General-Accessibility-VoiceOver 2. Into Languages Dialects. This should take you into the screen for the languages to show up in the Rotor. 4. There should be a More Info button after each language within the Rotor. Double-tap on the one you wish to upgrade. 5. Double-tap on the Enhanced Quality button and the HQ voice should begin downloading. This may take a while depending on your network speed and the size of the HQ voice. If the voice is not in your Rotor, double-tap on the Add New Voice button and add the voice you wish to appear in the Rotor. You can download the enhanced quality version right away by following the steps above once it is in the Rotor. HTH. . Best. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2013-10-04, at 3:20 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Shawn, thanks for your reply. If I understood correctly you are talking about iOS devices in general. On my iPhone it works fine but not on my iPad. Do you use an iPad with hq voices? Thanks again and all the best Jürgen Am 04.10.2013 um 05:17 schrieb BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com: Hi Jurgen. Yes, you can still use HQ voices with iOS7. Simply go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and in the language roter double tap on use HQ voice or something like that. I also found that you don't have to plug in your iOS device in order to download the voices and more than one can be downloaded at the same time. HTH. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: hq voices in iOS 7?
Hi Shawn, thanks for your reply. If I understood correctly you are talking about iOS devices in general. On my iPhone it works fine but not on my iPad. Do you use an iPad with hq voices? Thanks again and all the best Jürgen Am 04.10.2013 um 05:17 schrieb BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com: Hi Jurgen. Yes, you can still use HQ voices with iOS7. Simply go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and in the language roter double tap on use HQ voice or something like that. I also found that you don't have to plug in your iOS device in order to download the voices and more than one can be downloaded at the same time. HTH. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: hq voices in iOS 7?
Hi Shawn, thanks again for your reply. I thought it might be no problem as well. But it seems to be. There's no button for compact voice in VoiceOver preferences on the iPad. I sent an e-mail to the accessibility team and will let you know the answer. Would be interesting to hear someone to this question who has an iPad. In VO settings all buttons for hq voices are gray. All the best Jürgen Am 04.10.2013 um 21:06 schrieb BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com: Hi Jurgen. I don't have an iPad that can be updated to iOS7 but I don't think it should matter. The method I gave to turn on the HQ voices should work. Did you also turn off Use Compact Voice? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Music App in iOS7
Hi Nic, yes, it's the same behaviour on my iPhone 5 with iOS 7. All the best Jürgen Am 02.10.2013 um 06:21 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com: When I tap the playback speed button in the iOS7 Music app the speed of playback changes, but the button continues to show the speed as set to normal. I've so far tested this only on an audiobook not purchased from audible or iTunes on my 4S running iOS 7.0.2. Can anyone else reproduce this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
hq voices in iOS 7?
Hi Guys, I just updated my iPad 3 to iOS 7. Now I'm not able to use hq voices. Even the standard voice is just the compact version. Is it again not possible to use the hq voices on iPads? Or is it just me doing something wrongly? Thansk and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Chapters in audio books in iOS 7
Hello Esther, thanks for the great news. I suppose it will be fixed soon if there is such a big discussion about this topic. :-) And thank you very much for the hint about Audiobooks Player. I might give it a try. All the best Jürgen Am 30.09.2013 um 10:55 schrieb Esther mori...@mac.com: Hello Jürgen, There's a very long discussion thread about this issue over at the Apple Discussions forum, with many people who are unhappy about the failure of chapter organization for playing Audiobooks in the music app in iOS 7. The only alternative that seems to be workable is to use a third party app named Audiobooks Player ($4.99) by Mario Adrian: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/audiobooks-player/id660933412?mt=8 Since this costs $4.99, I wasn't inclined to try it out for accessibility, and in any case I don't feel that we should have to purchase another app to fix the problem that arose in the music app in iOS 7. The poster stated he was using it successfully on both an iPhone 5 and an iPad mini. This was confirmed by another user who had used software to construct audiobooks with chapter organization. Apparently, you can also authorize the app to play audiobooks with DRM (such as Audible, or purchases from the iTunes Store) if you go into the app's settings, but one of the posters stated that the app crashed the first time he tried to launch it for playing an Audible audiobook. (I would just use the Audible app for that.) Just thought I would report in the results of further investigation on this topic. Cheers, Esther -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Chapters in audio books in iOS 7
Hi Nic and Bread, thanks for your replies. I'm glad you could duplicate this behaviour which is annoying to me as well. And I agree it's worth a report to Apple which I will do now. All the best Jürgen Am 28.09.2013 um 21:46 schrieb Brett C. blindinnova...@gmail.com: For what it's worth, my wife is sighted, and she is disappointed by this chapter behavior as well. Brett C. On Sep 28, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: HI Jürgen, You're right, I'm sorry. Before sending you that last email I saw the track list button but didn't press it. Later that night I was reading an audiobook and tried using it, but it only showed me the audio files, not the chapters/tracks. In my case it was a book from audible which was in two parts (that is, two files) which were each divided into chapters. After tapping the title, I could see the two parts/files. Annoyingly, VoiceOver read out the length of each file before the name, which is a change (and a bad one) since iOS6. Once I started playing one of these files I could use the next and previous buttons to skip through chapters/tracks. However, tapping the track list button merely brought up the two parts/files, not the chapters. More annoyingly still, the time scrubber thing now shows the time for the entire file, not just the chapter. This is another change since iOS6. In iOS6 it would just show the time for the current track, now it has the time for the whole file. As the time for the whole file is longer, so the increments it skips are larger when you flick up or down. So for me, I could skip forward and back by 15-30 seconds using the buttons either side of the play/pause button, or skip forward/back by one hour blocks with the scrubber. This discrepancy made it really difficult to find my place in the book. I think this is worth writing to Apple accessibility about and explaining the affect this has on VoiceOver users. I presume it's fine for sighted people as they can probably just touch the scrubber at the point they wish to be, whereas VoiceOver users have to flick up and down by set increments. This is really disappointing as one of the reasons I loved my iPod and iPhone was the awesome way in which Apple handled the playing of audiobooks. Best, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Clock Radio
Hi, does anyone of know of a clock radio for the iPhone? I know there are a lot in the App Store but which is accessible with VO? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Chapters in audio books in iOS 7
Hi Nik, thanks for your reply. In iOS 6 there was this button but it has changed in iOS 7. It's still there but the function is different now. If I press on it all the audio files apear the audiobook contains but not the chapters of a book. In iOS 6 the chapters apeared after pressing this button. Could you please try this button out and see if it's the same for you? Can you see just the audio files of this particular book or can you see the chapters? An audio book from the iTunes Store for example comes in one file but contains several chapters. After pressing Tracklist I just can see the name of this single audio file but not a list of chapters. Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 26.09.2013 um 10:43 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com: In the music player (that is, the view with the actual play/pause button etcetera), there is a button near the top which says track list. Does this give you what you want? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Chapters in audio books in iOS 7
Hi, in iOS 6 in the Music Player, I could double tab on Titles and all the chapters of an audio book apeared. After pressing this button in iOS 7 the only thing I can choose from are the available audio files of this specific audio book but no chapters. Do you know a solution for this issue? I structured all my self encoded audio books in chapters and miss this feature now a lot. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: can't seem to edit my bookmarks in safari
Hi, the same happens to Safari on my iMac. What usually helps is to interact with the horizontal splitter right to the search field, pressing VO + arrow right or left a few times and stop interacting with the splitter. Good luck Jürgen Am 31.08.2013 um 04:40 schrieb Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com: Hmm. Try to close all windows while in Safari, then press cmd-shift-h to bring focus to your set Home page. Then try cmd-option-b to Show all Bookmarks. This normally will set VO focus to the Search field, navigate left to the Table to choose Bookmarks Bar or Bookmarks Menu etc, then press VO-cmd-t as Ray mentioned or Stop Interacting with the first Table, and navigate right past the Search field where, hopefully, the Table of Bookmarks should be. You can then use VO to Cut and Paste or Drag Drop things into the order you wish or edit names and other aspects of the Bookmarks. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2013-08-30, at 10:03 AM, eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: I get the response: next table not found On Aug 30, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: Did you try VO+cmd+t to move to the table on the right that shows individual book marks in folders? That's how I do it. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Aug 30, 2013, at 9:50 AM, eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: I posted this also on the apple support communities. I seem to be having a problem editing the bookmarks bar in Safari (6.0.5) using voiceover. I get as far as a table on the left side that details 4 entries (bookmarks bar bookmarks menu, history and unknown). I try to use the VO+shift+m to open a context menu only to have it close immediately. highlighting the table item and then going to the other frame that should show the individual bookmarks only shows a search pane and a main pain with only 2 groups ((new collection and new folder). there doesn't appear to be any way to edit or remove bookmarks and none are displayed. Additionally, there doesn't appear to be an edit bookmarks command key combo and nothing shows up in the main application menu for editing bookmarks. Since I am totally blind, I use voiceover and a braille display device exclusively. SO, how can I edit my bookmarks bar using strictly the keyboard (no mouse)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Status on a braille display
Hi Folkes, I've read about the meaning of the different status modules on a braille display. There are some I didn't understand. Could you please help me to get what they mean? General status: dot 3: System Volume, what does it mean if it's there or not? dot 4: VO focus, what does that mean? dot 5: Keaboard focus, I don't get that either. dot 6: chosen, does it apear if text is selected? Text status: dot 8: quote block, does it mean a quote block on the internet? Extended status, third braille sign on the display: dot 7: shorted dot 8: expanded I hope very much you'll get what I mean because I simply translated the meanings to english and I'm not sure about the correct terms in your language. So could you please help me to understand what the meaning of these braille dots is? The other ones were clear to me. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What I think Apple needs to change: was: Re: best way to navigate Mail when Quick Nav is on?
In my opinion interaction really is very efficiant because it's so logical. But on the other hand it's not obvious to people who are new to this on the Mac when to interact and when not. There are to many different names for things you can interact with: groups, scrol areas, tables sometimes but not on the web with DOM, lists sometimes but not on the web with DOM, toolbars, sidebars, browser etc.. And what makes their confusion even worse is that you actually should interact with for example the browser in a finder window but you don't have to. But if you don't interact some functions are not available like clicking on a file by pressing VO + Spacebar to open it. So I met quite a few beginners who were very unhappy of this inconsistency. I'd rather have hot spots fully functional. With them the more experienced users wouldn't have to worry about interacting or not. Unfortunately they are quite buggy in many ways. All the best Jürgen Am 04.08.2013 um 21:15 schrieb Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com: HI. yep I agree about interaction. Once I got used to it I kind of really like it. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 04/08/2013, at 9:55 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: But interaction makes so much more sense. Its basically telling VO, this is what I want to focus on, and not like windows where it reads you every single thing and half the time you have to read it anyway, and with VO you can choose to or not. Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area Sight Substitution Centre On 2013-08-04, at 7:30 AM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote: I'm thinking of Garage band and how often you interact and stop interacting over and over again. There are some key strokes but it's still such a time sink. I don't know how it could be done away with fully but better use of interaction by software would certainly make life easier. Have it be more universal across apps both native and third party. Making vo j work in most if not all multi interaction situations. Some times now it's vo j, other times, vo command shift t to switch between tables and other times like in the Sendspace wizard, you have 3 or more levels of interaction and have to move up 2 levels, vo right and then interact in another chain of levels. Arg. I love the mac but this is 1 of those things that makes the experience far sloppier and less consistent and is a major stumbling block on many coming to love using the OS despite its many advantages over windows. Danny. On 31/07/2013, at 9:03 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is obvious that the interaction deal is one of the most difficult things that somebody who moves from Windows to Mac needs to deal with. What is frustrating is that it is not always clear when one needs to interact. Trial and error and lots of keystrokes and wasted time result. I certainly do agree that tabbing until your finger falls off isn't the best solution. But I do wonder if there might not be a more innovative means of efficiently navigating complex screens. Sometimes, it isn't even clear, for instance, that you are in a situation where interacting again would yield more info. I'm thinking of nested tables as an example. VO doesn't always announce the fact that you have moved into a level 12 or even 3 table or that you could do so by interacting. Maybe that is a coding issue, not a VO issue. I do wonder if there are actual blind users who work for Apple who have experience with other operating systems. I say that not because I want to see some other approach duplicated, but because I've seen too much tunnel vision coming from folks whose only experience is with one or another os. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group.
Re: Sending a group text on the iPhone
Hi, did you try to gather the contacts in a group on the Mac and insert the groups name in the to field of your message? Haven't tried that my self but wondered wether it might work. All the best Jürgen Am 03.08.2013 um 11:43 schrieb Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com: Hi, I know how to send the same sms to multiple people, but is it possible to save this collection of numbers as a group in contacts and send a text to that group next time. I want to avoid choosing the same 20 names each time I want to send the group text. I know it's possible from the Mac side using contacts and email, but is something like this possible on the iPhone to send sms messages? Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Downcast for mac now available in the mac app store!
Hi Scott, are they both connected to each other via the cloud. Means does the one recognizes what I've already heard on the other? Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 01.08.2013 um 07:00 schrieb Scott Erichsen serich...@gmail.com: Hi all, Downcast for mac is now available in the mac app store! Link is below: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/downcast/id668429425?mt=12), Downcast for iOS is on sale!https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/downcast/id393858566?mt=8 It’s a fantastic app on iOS and is just as fantastic on the mac! Cheers, Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Off Topic: Question to australiens
Hi Folkes, I'm planning to visit Australia next year for two or three months. I'm going to stay near Melbourne. I'm very excited about this and want to enjoy my stay as much as I can. One of the important conditions will be the wether. So I'm thinking of what season would be the nicest to be there. I know it can be very hot in summer. Probably to hot for me, I like 20 to 30 degree Celsius the best, 65 to 85 degree Fahrenheit. But what about February and March? Is it a nice season, means well temperatured and not to rainy? And what about my Guide Dog? Is it easy to bring him to Australia or do they want me to prove a lot of vaccination? Would be great to hear some recommendation. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: switching tabs in safari
Hi, stop interaction with html content and move to the right. There you'll find the taps and you can click on them. Jürgen Am 20.07.2013 um 22:11 schrieb Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com: Hey guys, How do i switch tabs in safari? Thanks, Jed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Time and date
Hi, does anyone know how to change the way VO speaks the date and time in the Apple script used in Keyboard Commander? It sounds strange to hear the english format for date and time spoken out by a german voice. So hopefully someone can understand what I mean and can help. All the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: accessing ftp servers on the mac transmit vs cyberduck with vo
Hi Anouk, both work but I like Transmit the best. I'm used to Cyberduck but don't know how well it works today, might be the same. What I like better in Transmit is that I can read the transfere displays. That wasn't accessible in Cyberduck. All the best Jürgen Am 19.07.2013 um 00:32 schrieb Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, I have some ftp servers that i want to download from with my mac and vo. I know you can use command+k but, even though i can login to the servers the downloading process does not always go well. I was thinking of using a dedicated client on th e mac,hopefully one htat i can download from the app store so that it will be easier to reget if i get a new laptop. The ones that i know off are cyberduck and transmit 4. Does anyone have experience with both of these and can tell me what works best with vo and mountian lion? Thanks, Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: question about lowering volume of segment of track in garageband
Hi Ioana, I'm afraid it's not possible in Garageband to lower the volume of a specific part that easyly. What you could do is to cut the part out, copy it to another track to the same beat as it was before in the other track and lower the volume of this new track. You could achieve it in Amadeus Pro but it's not so simple for me to explane because I don't know what I could expect you to know. You'll need a little bit of background knowledge how Amadeus works and what key commands are available. So, what about learning a little bit about Amadeus Pro and then come back to ask a more specific question. Alternatively Here the way just in case you are an experienced user: 1. Load the file to a track. 2. Listen to the point you want to start lowering the volume and press Spacebar. 3. Press CMD + y to move the insertion point to the play head. 4. Press m to set a marker. 5. Listen to the point where you want to stop lowering the volume, stop by pressing Spacebar and press CMD + y again.. 6. Press CMD + arrow left to highlight the track from the insertion point to the marker. 7. Now you should be able to lower the volume by using the volume settings in the menue. All the best Jürgen All the best Jürgen Am 16.07.2013 um 20:14 schrieb Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com: Just wanted to add that if this should be easier in amadeus pro I have that one also but am less familiar with it. Thanks again for any suggestions. Ioana . Sent from my iPhone On 2013-07-16, at 1:47 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a recording of a concert of mine. The applause is too loud but I don't want to cut them out completely. Is there a way to lower the track volume just on the segment with applause? Thanks for your help. Ioana Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New PDF reader
Hi, as far as I could tell its for partially sighted people only not for screen reader users. All the best Jürgen Am 11.07.2013 um 09:13 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com: I'm not sure about that particular one, but my university brought to my attention another new PDF reader called something like Vision Impaired PDF reader or accessible PDF reader or something. It advertised itself as being an accessible PDF reader for companies concerned with accessibility. However, it just had built in speech which would read out the text of the PDF. So no particular screen reader support. Perhaps useful for people with low vision who could see enough to click the speak button but didn't have a screen reader, but no use for screen reader users. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mac OSX, Voiceover and BBC iPlayer
Hello Anne, thanks for your answer. I told you the wrong title of the series. Actually it's Who do you think you are and it's produced by the BBC. I like it very much. The BBC helps prominent people to find their family roots. I liked the episode about Joanne K. Rowling the best up to now. I found some of the episodes in You Tube. But do you know anything of the issue concerning the download problem I wrote? Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 11.07.2013 um 22:59 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Jürgen, I'm afraid it only works consistently for BBC programmes and only a few Channel 4 programmes, so it appears you're unlucky with that one. I just tried it myself with no success. I don't know anywhere else to find this programme. Cheers, Anne On 11 Jul 2013, at 22:49, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Anne, what great news. Thanks for that. I downloaded it and it seems pretty usable with VO. You wrote it even works outside the UK. Could you help me please to understand this error message I get when ever I try to download something: GiA did not find a suitable download format for the 4oD programme. Another related question: I tried to find mor of Who do you think you were but could only find one episode. Do you know of a better source for this series? Thanks again and all the best Jürgen Am 07.07.2013 um 22:42 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Ed, The app you need is Get iPlayer Automator https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/39019/get-iplayer-automator It works even outside the UK. Cheers, Anne On 7 Jul 2013, at 22:08, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Does this mean that you can't use BBC iPlayer on the Mac? Ed On 7 Jul 2013, at 21:06, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Ed, that's because Flash is not accessible on the mac and shall not be fixed by either Adobe or Apple. On 07/07/2013 20:49, Edward Green wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me if it's possible to watch or listen to programmes on the BBC iPlayer website using Mac OSX Mountain Lion and Safari? I can search for episodes, click on the page for the relevant show but can't then find any controls to play the programme etc. I installed the latest version of Adobe Flash Player but to no avail. Grateful for any advice. Many thanks, Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: Mac OSX, Voiceover and BBC iPlayer
Hello Anne, do you have an idea what GIA exactly is? I don't understand what I'm supposed to do to satisfy GIA. ;-) All the best Jürgen Am 12.07.2013 um 10:47 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Jürgen, I looked for Who do you think you are as well, but no episodes were available. I think they're only available for a week after they're broadcast. As for the error message, it seems to be a format that GIA doesn't recognise. Cheers, Anne On 12 Jul 2013, at 10:20, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hello Anne, thanks for your answer. I told you the wrong title of the series. Actually it's Who do you think you are and it's produced by the BBC. I like it very much. The BBC helps prominent people to find their family roots. I liked the episode about Joanne K. Rowling the best up to now. I found some of the episodes in You Tube. But do you know anything of the issue concerning the download problem I wrote? Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 11.07.2013 um 22:59 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Jürgen, I'm afraid it only works consistently for BBC programmes and only a few Channel 4 programmes, so it appears you're unlucky with that one. I just tried it myself with no success. I don't know anywhere else to find this programme. Cheers, Anne On 11 Jul 2013, at 22:49, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Anne, what great news. Thanks for that. I downloaded it and it seems pretty usable with VO. You wrote it even works outside the UK. Could you help me please to understand this error message I get when ever I try to download something: GiA did not find a suitable download format for the 4oD programme. Another related question: I tried to find mor of Who do you think you were but could only find one episode. Do you know of a better source for this series? Thanks again and all the best Jürgen Am 07.07.2013 um 22:42 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Ed, The app you need is Get iPlayer Automator https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/39019/get-iplayer-automator It works even outside the UK. Cheers, Anne On 7 Jul 2013, at 22:08, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Does this mean that you can't use BBC iPlayer on the Mac? Ed On 7 Jul 2013, at 21:06, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Ed, that's because Flash is not accessible on the mac and shall not be fixed by either Adobe or Apple. On 07/07/2013 20:49, Edward Green wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me if it's possible to watch or listen to programmes on the BBC iPlayer website using Mac OSX Mountain Lion and Safari? I can search for episodes, click on the page for the relevant show but can't then find any controls to play the programme etc. I installed the latest version of Adobe Flash Player but to no avail. Grateful for any advice. Many thanks, Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
Re: Mac OSX, Voiceover and BBC iPlayer
Hi Anne, what great news. Thanks for that. I downloaded it and it seems pretty usable with VO. You wrote it even works outside the UK. Could you help me please to understand this error message I get when ever I try to download something: GiA did not find a suitable download format for the 4oD programme. Another related question: I tried to find mor of Who do you think you were but could only find one episode. Do you know of a better source for this series? Thanks again and all the best Jürgen Am 07.07.2013 um 22:42 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Ed, The app you need is Get iPlayer Automator https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/39019/get-iplayer-automator It works even outside the UK. Cheers, Anne On 7 Jul 2013, at 22:08, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Does this mean that you can't use BBC iPlayer on the Mac? Ed On 7 Jul 2013, at 21:06, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Ed, that's because Flash is not accessible on the mac and shall not be fixed by either Adobe or Apple. On 07/07/2013 20:49, Edward Green wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me if it's possible to watch or listen to programmes on the BBC iPlayer website using Mac OSX Mountain Lion and Safari? I can search for episodes, click on the page for the relevant show but can't then find any controls to play the programme etc. I installed the latest version of Adobe Flash Player but to no avail. Grateful for any advice. Many thanks, Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: accessing DropBox settings V 2.0.22
Hi Danny, unfortunately I was not ab le to use the described way to get to the Settings. When I pressed VO + Shift + Space a new window opened in which I could find two links but Settings was not a link so I couldn't click on that. I'm using Version 2.0.22. Could you see wether you can find something I did wrong to your description? Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 06.07.2013 um 02:54 schrieb Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net: It's a Dropbox issue. With VO on the menu opens and then closes again. Instead of VO space do VO shift space and you can get to the settings. Danny. Sent from my iPhone On 06/07/2013, at 9:48 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I have the dropbox folder on an external drive and want to move it back onto the MacHD. But, I can't seem to get the dropbox menu to open. I am using the VO+M twice command, then pressing VO+space on the dropbox menu item. I've also pressed VO+enter, but it just clunks and won't open. How can I get to the dropbox preferences so I can set the dropbox folder location back onto the main HD? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Evernote?
Hello, I'm not sure about signing in because I signed in a long time ago and it remembers this. But the App itself is very accessible. I'm using it quite a while now on two Macs and on my iPhone and it works great for me. Of course it's always a question of what to do with it but as far as I use it it's completely accessible. What I don't like about it is using the editor of Evernote in iOS. But the sign in process might have changed, I don't know. All the best Jürgen Am 06.07.2013 um 15:44 schrieb Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com: Hi emilio, I'm a little confused. You say that when scrolling through the list of titles you have to interact with the scroll area to view the note, which makes sense. But then you go on to say that the note is an image. Does that mean that you can't actually read the note? Thanks, Donna On Jul 6, 2013, at 3:08 AM, Emilio emilio.s.hernan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, The primary issue with signing into EverNote is something with which sighted help will be needed. The “sign in,” button is not visible with voiceover, but once this button is pressed, entering the correct credentials will make the program as accessible as it will be. The primary caveat with EverNote is that when scrolling through a list of already crated notes, one must return to the “scroll area” to view the note in focus. In most cases I just upload notes using the iPhone, but I would like to start uploading notes from the iMac. Additionally, it does seem that in my experience when uploading notes the title is announced by voiceover, but the contents of the note are an image, so this is something to contend with. I hope my feedback has been helpful. moreover, I would encourage all of those users thereof to write the company, so they can have more feedback and suggestions on how to improve with application for voiceover users. Hope this has been helpful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: accessing DropBox settings V 2.0.22
Didn't work, unfortunately. It's a question of other open Windows I suppose. Am 06.07.2013 um 14:44 schrieb Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com: Hi Another way to go into the dropbox menu is to route your mouse to the dropbox menu with VO CMD f5, turn off trackpad commander and do OPTN click On 2013-07-06, at 8:36 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Danny, unfortunately I was not ab le to use the described way to get to the Settings. When I pressed VO + Shift + Space a new window opened in which I could find two links but Settings was not a link so I couldn't click on that. I'm using Version 2.0.22. Could you see wether you can find something I did wrong to your description? Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 06.07.2013 um 02:54 schrieb Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net: It's a Dropbox issue. With VO on the menu opens and then closes again. Instead of VO space do VO shift space and you can get to the settings. Danny. Sent from my iPhone On 06/07/2013, at 9:48 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I have the dropbox folder on an external drive and want to move it back onto the MacHD. But, I can't seem to get the dropbox menu to open. I am using the VO+M twice command, then pressing VO+space on the dropbox menu item. I've also pressed VO+enter, but it just clunks and won't open. How can I get to the dropbox preferences so I can set the dropbox folder location back onto the main HD? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: accessing DropBox settings V 2.0.22
Both didn't work on my MacBook Air. But thanks a lot. Am 06.07.2013 um 15:33 schrieb Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com: Danny's suggestion of routing mouse to VO while on the dropbox menu and pressing option click on trackpad worked for me - it brought up the familiar dropbox menu with 9 items, One of which was preferences. I was able to navigate that dialog and switch my dropbox folder back to my user account on the main HD. the other way, routing mouse to VO and pressing VO Shift space for a regular mouse click brought up a less useful dialog. It has a link to dropbox.com, a choice to open the dropbox folder, and a list of recently changed files. Then at the bottom of the dialog there is the word settings, but it appears to be just static text that doesn't open anything like settings. . - Original Message - From: Ray Foret jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 11:06 PM Subject: Re: accessing DropBox settings V 2.0.22 That's quite correct. Even with 2.0.8 this is the case. I've written to them, even opening a ticket and they haven't even had the common curticy to get back to me. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 5, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote: It's a Dropbox issue. With VO on the menu opens and then closes again. Instead of VO space do VO shift space and you can get to the settings. Danny. Sent from my iPhone On 06/07/2013, at 9:48 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: I have the dropbox folder on an external drive and want to move it back onto the MacHD. But, I can't seem to get the dropbox menu to open. I am using the VO+M twice command, then pressing VO+space on the dropbox menu item. I've also pressed VO+enter, but it just clunks and won't open. How can I get to the dropbox preferences so I can set the dropbox folder location back onto the main HD? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What is vo-enter for?
Hi, you can start highlighting text where it's not possible by simply using Shift + arrows by pressing VO + Enter and end it the same way. Then you can press CMD + c to copy to the clippboard. It worked fine until Lion. Since Lion and also in Mountain Lion I experience it as very unreliable. If I highlight text in a pdf file for example and copy it to the clippboard mostly it's a different part of the text I actually highlighted. But that's what it's been supposed to be. So press VO + Enter to start highlighting, move the cursor by pressing VO + arrows and press VO + Enter to end highlighting. Jürgen Am 06.07.2013 um 16:00 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com: Hi all, If you start keyboard help and hit vo-enter, you hear select item, selects the current item. What does this do? I have played with it some, but can't work out what it is for. thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: how to scan double sided pages with epson wp4535/finereader express
Hi Anne, I used VueScan a while ago. It seems to me you use it regularly. Could you tell me three things please: 1. Is it still so that I have to save the scanned text as a file on the harddrive before I can read it? 2. For me the huge amount of settings were always confusing and when I wanted to find something specific I had to search a long time to find it. Are there still so many settings on the start screen or did he change that? 3. What for me was the most dificult thing that VueScan didn't recognized script orientation automatically. Is this still the case? Thanks a lot for your answers and all the best Jürgen Am 24.06.2013 um 10:35 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Anouk, I don't think FineReader can do what you want, but VueScan can. In the Input tab of VueScan, you can set Autorepeat which should work for your scanner. If you set VueScan to produce TIFF files, then you can set all such files to always open with ABBYY FineReader. In any case, you can try VueScan for free. It leaves a watermark on each scanned page, but at least you can find out for nothing whether it works for you. Here's the link to download the DMg: http://www.hamrick.com/files/vuex6492.dmg Cheers, Anne On 24 Jun 2013, at 09:47, Anouk Radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I just bought a multifunctional printer/scanner/coppier (epson wp4535) mostly for scanning materials. It has adf and should also have auto scan doublesided pages (i can select this in the drivers when starting scan) but in finereader only one side of the page shows up. I do get a warning that some app;ications dont support multipage scanning but i can choose to start scan anyway. Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Foreign HQ voice for iPhone?
Hi, I don't remember exactly how but if I understood correctly it should be possible to use a foreign language with VoiceOver on the iPhone in high quality. I searched on the internet but couldn't figure out how. My iPhone runs in german but sometimes I read english texts like e-mails from this mailinglist here. Therefore it would be really nice to have also english voices in hq. If you know how to manage this I'd really appreciate your hints. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Foreign HQ voice for iPhone?
Hi, actually the iPhone uses in your home language a high quality voice. At least that's what I know from german and english iPhones. I don't know wether this is correct for all languages. What I want to do is to use the german high quality voice and the english high quality voice. All the best to greece Jürgen Am 13.06.2013 um 21:48 schrieb zoe fiog...@rogers.com: Hi there, I don't know the answer to your question, since I've only been using an iphone for one year. However I use my iphone with two different languages, Greek, and English, and I've been told I can only use the voices the iphone comes with. I don't know if anyone on this list knows something more but if so I'd like to invest in some better quality foreign languages, in my case Greek. - Original Message - From: Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net To: Visionaries Mac Visionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:15 PM Subject: Foreign HQ voice for iPhone? Hi, I don't remember exactly how but if I understood correctly it should be possible to use a foreign language with VoiceOver on the iPhone in high quality. I searched on the internet but couldn't figure out how. My iPhone runs in german but sometimes I read english texts like e-mails from this mailinglist here. Therefore it would be really nice to have also english voices in hq. If you know how to manage this I'd really appreciate your hints. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Foreign HQ voice for iPhone?
Hi Anne, thanks Anne for your reply. I tried it out and set my iPhone to British English but unfortunately it didn't work. My german hq voice stayed but Daniel stayed in compact mode even though I kept the Phone for an hour in english. Very sad. Anyway, let's see wether iOS 7 brings the new voices not only for Siri but also for VO. And - who knows - for other languages. All the best Jürgen Am 13.06.2013 um 22:42 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Jürgen, I'm afraid you can only have one HQ voice on the iPhone. I have the same problem as you do in that I run my iPhone in English but read a lot of French on it. I'd love to have an HQ French voice, and I can have one if I set my iPhone to French, but then I lose my HQ English voice., at least, that's how it seems. Cheers, Anne On 13 Jun 2013, at 21:15, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi, I don't remember exactly how but if I understood correctly it should be possible to use a foreign language with VoiceOver on the iPhone in high quality. I searched on the internet but couldn't figure out how. My iPhone runs in german but sometimes I read english texts like e-mails from this mailinglist here. Therefore it would be really nice to have also english voices in hq. If you know how to manage this I'd really appreciate your hints. Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Prizmo
Hi, I now downloaded the demo version of Prizmo 2 and all in all it seems to be very accessible. Great. But what doesn't work is to scan a text. If I press CMD + Shift + i to scan, a dialogue apears where I need to choose a scaner. In the scrol area I found CanoScan LiDE 200. but no OK button There's just a cancel button. Pressing enter doesn't help either. So, is anyone familiar with this app and could tell me how to start a scan process? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Prizmo
Hi Anne, thanks for the reply.. From what version of Prizmo are you talking? I downloaded version 2.0.7 and from my first impression it seems pretty good. There are no unlabeld buttons - at least I haven't found them. Also: In the settings I could enable recognition of orientation - at least that's what I understood from the first option in Settings / General. Thanks for the hint regarding the necessary mouse clicks in Prizmo. That worked. I clicked on my scaner and it scanned. But I agree it's not very intuitive what comes then, all the necessary options and settings. That's also not to compair with Open Book for Windows. Really a shame Docu Scan Plus doesn't work for german texts. All the best Jürgen Am 09.06.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net: Hi, I now downloaded the demo version of Prizmo 2 and all in all it seems to be very accessible. Great. But what doesn't work is to scan a text. If I press CMD + Shift + i to scan, a dialogue apears where I need to choose a scaner. In the scrol area I found CanoScan LiDE 200. but no OK button There's just a cancel button. Pressing enter doesn't help either. So, is anyone familiar with this app and could tell me how to start a scan process? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Prizmo
Hi Anne, OK, that's really bad. Actually I conciddered to buy Prizmo but now I'll think about it. ;-) What I don't like on Finereader: - my scaner isn't recognized by Finereader - I'm not able to scan more than one page in a document - before I can read the text I have to save it as a document But maybe I'm wrong and it's just the wrong settings. What do you think about that? BTW: I'm not able to open settings in Finereader for Mac. My guess was it's just an express version and so there are no settings. Or do you know of a full version? All the best Jürgen Am 09.06.2013 um 19:15 schrieb Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk: Hello Jürgen, I've got the latest version of Prizmo. I had to delete the version that was on my MBA as it wouldn't work any more and download the latest version. I bought it quite a while back and, although it was usable then, it was messy. I still think it's messy compared with ABBYY FineReader which I use on a regular basis. I also use VueScan to capture multiple images before handing over the file to FineReader if I have more than a couple of pages to scan. I really think Prizmo is messy. Oh, and the unlabelled buttons, perhaps you have VoiceOver set to read the help tags - I don't. I've just done a direct comparison between Prizmo and FineReader on a double page of a book. Prizmo produced no readable text, just a few odd letters and symbols. I'm pasting the results below my Signature. Cheers, Anne Prizmo 0 '~' I:I u ~o .~o 0 ~ 0 i ~ 0 0 ~ ~ /_-~ ,,-, 0 N 71~ i!i ~ I:~ 0 0 0 I=~ 1=1 0 ~ 0 t~ 0 : 0 : : U ,~0 IZI ~ ' : 0 ~ : : : ~ : ~ 0 0 ABBYY FineReader ii i „/ I iiitned to CO,, .'ind walor via tho consumptiono! xy|nn, tin:; indued method (called indirect calorimetry) effectively measures a person's total energy consumption. In addition, the ratios of C02 produced relative to oxygen consumed are different for these three major nutrients. This ratio, the volume of C02 output divided by oxygen intake (VC02/V02) is 1.0 for carbohy- drates, 0.70 for fat (triglyceride), and about 0.85 for protein. This ra- tio is called the respiratory quotient (if corrected for protein oxidation) or respiratory exchange ratio if we just use the raw number, ignoring protein metabolism. But because protein burns at 0.85, right in the middle, correcting for it tends to change the results little if at all. Thus you'll often see RQ and RER used interchangeably. A useful rule of thumb to remember is that a liter of oxygen consumed produces about 5 kcal of metabolic energy. So a person sitting quietly reading this chapter with an energy expenditure of 1 kcal/min is con- suming about 200 cc of elemental oxygen per minute (1 liter t5). If he or she had a bagel and orange juice for breakfast, most fuel being burned is glucose, so the RQ would be -1 and C02 production would be about the same - 200 cc/min. However, if that person were follow- ing a very low carbohydrate ketogenic diet, 02 consumption would be the same but C02 production would be a lot less, about 140 cc/min (i.e., an RQ of 0.70 is indicative of virtually pure fat oxidation). Weight, Weight Variation, and BMI The other set of assessment tools deserving of comment are those used to determine weight and body composition. Although modern scales are gen- erally consistent and even pretty accurate, they suffer from not being able to differentiate water from muscle from fat. This is particularly important for the individual trying to chart her/his course on a weight loss diet because humans do not regulate their body water content precisely. So if a 70 kg adult typically contains an average of 42 liters of water, over the course of a 72 , I In,n,in I Ml i'-: II, mill I in I PiirtltlOtllUR ,i.iv that pet lon'i body does not care (fit contains 41 liters .is opposed to 43 liters i water, Above 4(liters, the kidneys speed their function and clear the excess fluid, whereas below 11 liters, thirst prompts us to increase our water intake. The result is that most people's weight varies randomly across .i range equivalent to 2 liters of water - about 4 pounds. When humans cut back in calories, they tend to lose weight quickly at first. Some of this is water weight due to reduced glycogen reserves (the body stores 3-4 grams of water along with each gram of glycogen). But then if all subsequent weight loss comes from fat, and a 500 kcal per day deficit results in a pound per week rate of loss (assuming a pound of adi- pose tissue contains 3500 kcal), this weight variability within a 4 pound range can lead to a great deal of frustration and misunderstanding for the individual. This 4 pound range in weight variability could completely mask four
DocuScan Plus
Hi, does anyone know wether DocuScan Plus is still alive? I'm running a demo version - at least it says so after starting - but seems not to work properly. If I scan a page it takes a while until I hear a sound and receive the following message in the html area: 504 Gateway Time-out nginx That happened this morning and now again. I tried twice to be very sure it's not simply a down server. So did anyone used the service today or is it no longer available? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DocuScan Plus
Hi Nic, thanks for your answer. I'm calmed down by your message. My thought was it could be something on my Mac. :-) So, the web page seems to work normally. But of course it could be coursed by something in the background. I'll wait till monday. What I actually wanted to try out was to see wether Docu Scan Plus works for german texts as well. Do you know something about what languages are supported? You know, in german we use a few different letters and so it's important to have german text recognition. All the best Jürgen Am 08.06.2013 um 19:15 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com: Hi Jürgen, I've used DocuScan for a while. I've used it fairly recently and it worked fine. I just used it now in response to what you've said and I got the exact same result as you. I doubt DoscuScan is completely dead, but perhaps they're having server issues or something. Have you checked the website? Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DocuScan Plus
Hi Esther, thanks for the info. Yes, I haven't followed Anne's post to DocuScan Plus. I'm not aware of Prismo as an app for the Mac. What about the accessibility of the new version? Can you say something about that? Is it already out? I'm using Exact Scan Pro but I'd like to have an easy and intuitive to use app for the blind like Open Book in Windows, especially as a recommendation to friends who are not that technical literate. In that term I like Docu Scan Plus very much. All the best Jürgen Am 08.06.2013 um 20:16 schrieb Esther mori...@mac.com: Hi Jürgen, This isn't Nic, but DocuScan Plus only works in English. They are developing support for Spanish, but that isn't available yet. You must not have noticed that every time Anne Robertson posts replies on this subject that she always points out that DocuScan Plus doesn't support any languages other than English. I'd be curious whether the new Prizmo version 2 does a good job with German. I haven't tries this myself, but I was not impressed with the first version of Prizmo for the Mac. Many seem to like Prizmo 2, though, and I do like the new iOS version 2 Prizmo app. Cheers, Esther On Saturday, June 8, 2013 8:04:55 AM UTC-10, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Nic, thanks for your answer. I'm calmed down by your message. My thought was it could be something on my Mac. :-) So, the web page seems to work normally. But of course it could be coursed by something in the background. I'll wait till monday. What I actually wanted to try out was to see wether Docu Scan Plus works for german texts as well. Do you know something about what languages are supported? You know, in german we use a few different letters and so it's important to have german text recognition. All the best Jürgen Am 08.06.2013 um 19:15 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nichol...@gmail.com: Hi Jürgen, I've used DocuScan for a while. I've used it fairly recently and it worked fine. I just used it now in response to what you've said and I got the exact same result as you. I doubt DoscuScan is completely dead, but perhaps they're having server issues or something. Have you checked the website? Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Microsoft word for mac again.
But it's an interesting question anyway. There was a huge thread on this topic and to me it would be interesting wether there are improvements internally in the company concerning accessibility for MS Office for Mac. So, if the Lady from Microsoft still reads our posts she might say a word what happened so far. Could you please do so? Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 06.06.2013 um 18:18 schrieb Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com: Being that Microsoft has not released a new version since 2010 I suspect VO support has not since been added. CB On 6/6/13 5:20 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi. Is there any improvements in microsoft word for mac? I have to use it, if it is still not accessible I will have to work in windows, but that is not working so well with braille especially not in danish, so therefore if there are any possibilities that m.s. word for mac will work with VoiceOver at the moment? Cheers Annie. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: aligning text in Text Edit?
Hi Alex, to get a correct result using VO + t be sure you are interacted with the text and your cursor is on the text. Jürgen Am 05.06.2013 um 04:26 schrieb Randy George george.ra...@gmail.com: Do you have any sighted friends? Command three I believe it is will take a screenshot. Paste that into an email and see what they have to say. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Well, this is just weird. I went to the menu as you suggested, and align left is checked! Voiceover insists that the text is aligned to the center when I press vo-t, however, I'm not sure whom to believe here... Very odd. On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Instead of using the commands on the keyboard, maybe it would work if you tried using the menu instead. I know that sounds weird, but maybe that will work. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, but it does not work for me. I also tried highlighting the text to be aligned left, but that did not help either. This is very odd. On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have not had trouble changing my text. Gigi On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says align left checked, hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It seems as though the whole file is stuck in this align center mode and I can't work out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites
Hi Guys, as someone said in an earlier post: I don't want to crash the party but it still doesn't work for me. I did everything exactly as Tim described. I disabled VoiceOver cursor in VO settings under Visual and set the level from 4 to 1. I removed the preview pane and tried all the possibilities with Zoom switched on and off. I also tried everything out in full screenmode and in normal mode and pressed VO + Shift + F2 to be very sure the window was in foreground. I also interacted with the name of the smart mailbox and tried it without interacting. What really worked for the first time was, that VO allowed to drag the smart mailbox that I want to move to the Favoritesbar. But what ever I did I was not able to drop the mailbox, neither to the favoritesbar itself nor to the specific place in the favoritesbar I want it to be. So dear Tim, I'm very grateful for your efforts finding all this out and I think it was successful for the people answering this thread but me. If you have any other ideas to try, please let me know. I'd love to have the possibility to move mailboxes to the favoritesbar. And a general thought: In my opinion Apple has to work on this to simplify the way of using drag and drop. That shouldn't be the necessary steps to accomplish a drag and drop action. I don't think any beginners will manage this. One strength of Apple should also be for blind users: Apple is easy and intuitive to use. All the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites
Hi Nic, no, Tim's instruction didn't suggest so. It was Ricardo if I'm right. But to be very sure I tried both, either didn't work. All the best Jürgen Am 29.05.2013 um 17:29 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com: Hi Les, I decided to get the TrackPad with my iMac, but I'm sure the Magic Mouse will work just the same. I suppose you'll just need to click and drag the mouse away from your iMac instead of clicking and swiping on the TrackPad. Let us know if you have any difficulties with that. Jürgen, I'm not sure Tim's instructions included disabling VO curser, did they? I thought it was just setting the magnification to 1? Brian, Not sure about the Apple menu business. Hopefully that's a problem that might go away by itself. But as to pressing VO-command-space on a favourites bar item to remove it, that should never work as clicking a favourites bar item should check that mailbox and make it active. VO-command-shift-space might work, but you might run into the same problem. Maybe try getting out of full screen mode and moving the Mail window down to the lower part of the screen. I think the keystroke is VO-command-accent. I'm guessing that somehow your Drafts mailbox is close to the Apple menu. Moving the Mail app window down away from the top of the screen might help avoid this. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites
Hi Brian, oh, I didn't try the modern layout. This I could try. I'll tell you what happened. Thanks for the idea. All the best Jürgen Am 29.05.2013 um 15:03 schrieb Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com: Hey Jürgen Did you try doing all of this in non classic view? I am the one who started this thread and wasn't able to move a mailbox into the favorites until I tried all of Tim's great steps with classic view turned off. Good luck On May 29, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VoiceOver Preferences and Sharing Programs Between Accounts
Hi, are you sure about importing the file and it works? I haven't tried it for a while due to obvious reasons because VO wasn't able to import all the settings correctly in Lion. I'm not sure about Mountain Lion. But I'm interested wether they fixed this issue or not. All the best Jürgen Am 27.05.2013 um 02:10 schrieb Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com: Harry, I can't help with the second question, but your first question... absolutely! Just do your vo+F8 like normal, then go to the file menu, and there should be an option in there to export your settings. I can't recall if it makes a folder, or just one file, but if it wind up being a folder, then just zip it, and then put it up on Sendspece, or Dropbox, etc. Once they get the file, they'll just do vo+F8, go to the file menu, but instead of going to export, obviously, they'll go to import. Chris. - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:09 PM Subject: VoiceOver Preferences and Sharing Programs Between Accounts hello all, I have a couple of unrelated questions. First, does anyone know if it is possible to set voiceover preferences and then send these preferences to someone else so they can then use them in their own VoiceOver settings? I have a friend who uses VoiceOver, but lives half way around the world, so it would be better to e-mail a settings file to him. Although I could explain how to adjust settings for application menu short cuts and so forth, it would be much quicker if I could set these myself and then send him a file that he could simply put in a specific place. Then he could use the preferences I have set, including application short uts, pronunciation preferences, etc. My other question has to do with my own computer. I have two accounts -- one for personal use and another for professional uses. Is there a way to share my virtual machine Windows between these two accounts? Right now when I go to the other account and VMWare Fusion, it welcomes me to VMWare and aks me to eitehr load a VM or install a VM, etc. If possible, I would like Windows on the VM on the professional account to mirror the contents of my professional account, meaning any files on my Desktop, etc. I can't imagine much I would need the VM on my professional account for expect for maybe Excel, MS Word, and the like, but I would like to have the option. So is there anyway of doing this without completely reinstalling Windows? Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites
Just for fun I tried again to move a mailbox to the favoritesbar in Mountain Lion OS X 10.8.3 by using VO + komma. I closed the preview pan, maximized the window and pressed VO + Shift + F2 to get the window even more to the foreground. It didn't help at all. The message: the window could be hidden by something. So Brian, unfortunately you are not alone. And I agree that Apple could have and should have fixed a whole bunch of issues which occurred since Lion and went on in Mountain Lion. The only way to bring Apple to see and fix these issues is to send e-mails to accessibil...@apple.com as often as we can and describe the issues as detailed as we can. That's my opinion. All the best Jürgen Am 25.05.2013 um 01:39 schrieb Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com: Hi, Just curious, do you have the preview pane open in Mail? I don't, I'm wondering if this might be why your having difficulty moving a mailbox to favorites, an I'm not? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 24, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey John, Yes, I did exactly what you said to do, and yes, the favorites bar was showing, spent hours on this trying everything VO comma, and the old way VO shift space bar, and couldn't get anything to work. Finally, I gave up and had a sighted person come over and do it in 2 seconds. These are the frustrating things with VO, and would be nice if Apple would address. As far as I believe, there hasn't been one single improvement to VO since Mountain Lion rolled out, and I can only get the same answer from Apple accessibility so many times on several issues. We are aware of the problem, but can't say when it will be fixed. Something so simple as them reversing the web spots so when you click VO command right bracket takes you right instead of left, would have been nice. If they can't fix that which to me seems something very basic to fix, and worked correctly in Lion, I don't put a lot of stock in any VO improvements until the next operating system comes out. I get that only a very small percentage of people use VO, and that Apple cannot commit a great number of resources to it, but just be honest, instead of treating us like idiots waiting for a fix. Don't get me wrong I do appreciate Apple's commitment to accessibility, it's the leading us to think there will be improvements that annoys me. On May 24, 2013, at 4:05 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, It isn't easy, but adding mailboxes to the favorites bar is doable with VoiceOver. You must be sure the favorites bar is showing first off, and then, be sure you mark the mailbox for drag and drop and then navigate to the favorites bar itself to drop the mailbox. I don't think you need to interact with the favorites bar though to drop the mailbox. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On May 24, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nicholas, You must be one of the very few lucky ones to never have had an I hate my mac day. I tried exactly what you suggested, even quit every application closed everything and restarted my mac, then opened mail first after a restart, and still got the message VO cannot drag the item as the item might be hidden. I then did everything the old fashioned way called someone who could see and had them come over. They confirmed that nothing was blocking the mailbox I was trying to move, and I was still getting the same message. I had them drag and drop the mailbox using the mouse, and they were able to do it in 2 seconds, so yes, this is obviously a bug with Voiceover which leads to having a I hate my mac day, as I hate not being able to do something so simple that should take me two seconds. On May 24, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I've never had an I hate Mac day myself. When it says something is hidden, I think it usually means there's some other window or application blocking that item on the screen. Using VoiceOver it is of course very difficult to get an idea of what this might be. So what usually works for me is just closing that window or application and opening it again. Also try closing any other windows you might have open. Use the windows chooser (VO-F2 twice quickly) to see if there are any other windows or notifications open. Try quitting all other applications before you try dragging and dropping again. The commands you're using should work. VO-COMMA and VO-PERIOD in full screen mode nearly always works for me. Best of luck.
Re: error message when playing videos using mactubes.
My current version is 3.1.6 and it works fine. Just to give you an idea. Am 22.05.2013 um 01:24 schrieb Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com: Ok, had no idea there was an update, sense it never lets me know, unlike every other piece of software that there is one. I'll give that a shot though, thanx for the info. On May 21, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Be sure using the last version of MacTubes. It happens from time to time as you described and what normally helped was an update to the newest version. All the best Jürgen Am 21.05.2013 um 03:40 schrieb Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com: I've just tried several times to play a video using mactubes, and just get an error message that tells me error using player, but won't tell me what the error is, so don't know what to make of this. Has anyone else had this issue? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: error message when playing videos using mactubes.
Be sure using the last version of MacTubes. It happens from time to time as you described and what normally helped was an update to the newest version. All the best Jürgen Am 21.05.2013 um 03:40 schrieb Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com: I've just tried several times to play a video using mactubes, and just get an error message that tells me error using player, but won't tell me what the error is, so don't know what to make of this. Has anyone else had this issue? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: deleting mailbox from favorites bar
Hi Donna, at first: thanks for your suggestion for dragging a mailbox. I'll try it out and let you know what happens. You can move or even remove a mailbox in the favoritesbar by drag and drop. When I used the feature in Lion most of the time it worked that way. To remove a mailbox completely just drag it from the favoritesbar to the mailbox table. All the best Jürgen Am 20.05.2013 um 11:02 schrieb Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com: Hi all, I'd like to remove the VIP mailbox from my favorites bar. Anyone know if you can do this? If not, is there a way to move it down so it's the last one in the list? Cheers Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites
Hi Nic, oh, please feel free to give me more ideas what to do to solve the issue. I tried your suggestions to change the view to the modern view. I actually prefere to use classic layout but just for this it was worth a try. Unfortunately it didn't work. My hope is Apple will develop VO further so that everyone can use all the features. All the best Jürgen Am 20.05.2013 um 10:17 schrieb Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com: Hi Jürgen, Okay, so maybe there's nothing to be done about it. That would be strange and unfortunate though. I won't waste your time with trying things you've already done, but one last idea – could it have anything to do with the view you're using in Mail? E.g. classic versus modern view? Whether the message pane is open or collapsed, etcetera? Best, Nic On 20/05/2013, at 6:48 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites
Hi Donna, how do you open messages? Just by pressing VO + j to jump to the preview window or do you hit Enter to open? I'm used to press VO + j. All the best Jürgen Am 20.05.2013 um 11:00 schrieb Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com: Hi Jurgen, I just tried to drag and drop a mailbox, and got the same message, Mailbox is not drag able, may be hidden. I arrowed over to the messages table and opened one of the messages, then went back to the mailbox and tried again, and that time it worked, using VO-Comma and VO-Period. Just something to try. Best, Donna. On May 20, 2013, at 3:17 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jürgen, Okay, so maybe there's nothing to be done about it. That would be strange and unfortunate though. I won't waste your time with trying things you've already done, but one last idea – could it have anything to do with the view you're using in Mail? E.g. classic versus modern view? Whether the message pane is open or collapsed, etcetera? Best, Nic On 20/05/2013, at 6:48 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dragging and Dropping a mailbox to Favorites
Yes I have. Unfortunately without luck. All the best Jürgen Am 20.05.2013 um 16:39 schrieb Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com: Have you tried using full-screen mode with command-control-f? This works consistently for me. HtH, Teresa On May 20, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Donna, how do you open messages? Just by pressing VO + j to jump to the preview window or do you hit Enter to open? I'm used to press VO + j. All the best Jürgen Am 20.05.2013 um 11:00 schrieb Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com: Hi Jurgen, I just tried to drag and drop a mailbox, and got the same message, Mailbox is not drag able, may be hidden. I arrowed over to the messages table and opened one of the messages, then went back to the mailbox and tried again, and that time it worked, using VO-Comma and VO-Period. Just something to try. Best, Donna. On May 20, 2013, at 3:17 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jürgen, Okay, so maybe there's nothing to be done about it. That would be strange and unfortunate though. I won't waste your time with trying things you've already done, but one last idea – could it have anything to do with the view you're using in Mail? E.g. classic versus modern view? Whether the message pane is open or collapsed, etcetera? Best, Nic On 20/05/2013, at 6:48 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
