Re: strange behavior with Lion
Hi Shen: I did have this experience---However, mine was only during the process of installing Lion. During that time, a very dreadful, poor-sounding voice with almost indiscernible speech would respond to my keystrokes. I couldn't budge volume at that point either. I was afraid Alex had been severely disfigured, and started wondering how I'd get Snow leopard back. Fortunately, once the install was complete, and the computer restarted twice, Alex was back in good form, and the volume keys worked as usual. At the time, I just assumed it had to do with install, and allowing for speech with minimal disruption to the system during installation. Beyond that, I'm clueless why volume should be acting out. Carolyn On Jul 28, 2011, at 1:26 AM, Shen wrote: So I came home today and thought I do some things on my MacBook Pro, such as checking email and browse the internet. The Mac booted up, I logged in, everything works fine except my volume controls, F11 and F12 don't work. I checked everything and confirmed that everything on my keyboard works. Even Fn plus F11 and F12 work just fine. I thought perhaps it's my BlueTooth keyboard acting up. Keep in mind this never happened with Snow Leopard. I reached over to the built-in keyboard in my MacBook Pro. No dice! F11 and F12 just refuse to work. OK, I thought perhaps the machine needs a restart. Even though it has just been booted up after being off the entire day. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. I restarted my machine, got to the log in window, provided my credentials, and logged in. After reaching the Desktop, I tried the volume keys again. Still, they didn't work. This was the most puzzling thing to me. Of all the things not to work, it's the volume controls. I was able to use VO-M to open the status menu and check the system volume. According to the status menu, the System volume is set to 100-percent. I know it's not because it would distort my speakers. I tried using the arrow keys to adjust the volume in the status menu. It wouldn't budge. It stayed at 100-percent. Is that weird or not? OK, this time, I decided to give it the cold restart, turning it completely off, then on. After restarting a second time, my volume controls came back. Before any of you question me whether I have a functioning keyboard or not, let me end this message by tell ing you that this has never happened before when I was running Snow Leopard. And come to think of it, a similar incident happened last week, a couple of days after installing Lion. But since I was in the process of rebooting,I didn't bother to stop and investigate. That time, everything did not work except for the volume buttons. After restarting, everything came back to normal so I didn't think much of it. So has anyone experienced this before? Does anyone have any guesses whether this is just a glitch in Lion, having upgraded from Snow Leopard? Will a clean install of Lion get rid of these little annoyances? -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: To the Moderators
Hi Ron: It is very much like a free for all. There is one owner, Cara, Quinn and one moderator, Mark Taylor. There are no guidelines in place, because according to Mark Taylor there were hundreds of complaints about how the group was being moderated. Therefore, in the interest of those hundreds of alleged complaints and the people who made them, a very positive, almost anything goes approach has been adopted. Personally, I would prefer a more guided approach, with a semi-professional ambiance/. But, I'm just a list member now, and I guess most don't prefer the same approach I do.:) Take care CarolynOn Jul 28, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Ronald McEwan wrote: Hi, It is becoming evident to me that this list has turned into a free-for-all. I am reading more and more mails that don't have much to do with Mac accessibility but apple in general. I bought my first Mac in February and joined the list because I wanted input from those who have been in the apple arena for a while. However, I am considering leaving the list because of its current direction. Please post the guidelines and let me know if I am mistakenin any way. In the Journey, Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
semi-pro list
Hello list members: I'm writing in response to some of the latest goings on here. I'm Carolyn, a former moderator of the group. When I was asked to back off, and then told summarily that hundred of people had complained about my mod style, I decided perhaps my expectations were just too stringent, and pushing people away. I can not continue to be on this list as it currently is. I'm considering starting a resource list for semi-professional interchange , and would like to know if there's any others interested in such. If I'm alone in this endeavor, at least I'll know for sure that I tried. My email is chaas0...@gmail.com. Please only interested people respond, as I've had enough hate mail for one lifetime.:) Take care, and thank you for reading. Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: semi-pro list
Hey Ray: Don't give me the shove-off quite yet, unless of course, it happens anyhow.:) Clearly, the style of no management is preferable for some people. But, I too long for a list related to things Apple, access, and not ego driven. Take care Carolyn On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: So sorry to see you leave us. Indeed, let me go further. I'm sorry to see the former quality of this list degenerated in to something that, to speak frankly, it has no business being. It certainly was not this way when I first came on board. To speak candidly, it would appear that certain people get very agitated when Apple, (or for that matter anybody else) doesn't respond immediately to them and solve all their problems like the world revolts around them. No Chris, I'm not picking on you particularly; though it may perhaps seem otherwise. Look, let's face facts. We al of us are trying to get used to this new beast we find under our hoods. Some of us like it and others have issues. Frankly, it seems to me that emotions are running rather too high to suit the circumstances. I'm remaining though. Why? Simple. I know that, eventually, this too shall pass and the list will return to normal. At least, that sure better happen. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:16 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hello list members: I'm writing in response to some of the latest goings on here. I'm Carolyn, a former moderator of the group. When I was asked to back off, and then told summarily that hundred of people had complained about my mod style, I decided perhaps my expectations were just too stringent, and pushing people away. I can not continue to be on this list as it currently is. I'm considering starting a resource list for semi-professional interchange , and would like to know if there's any others interested in such. If I'm alone in this endeavor, at least I'll know for sure that I tried. My email is chaas0...@gmail.com. Please only interested people respond, as I've had enough hate mail for one lifetime.:) Take care, and thank you for reading. Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: semi-pro list
Hi Courtney: By semiprofessional, I mean a list where there is even and decent exchange of questions and resources, and ideas, and not the narcissistic ego-driven chest-pounding nonsense and blubbering about what everyone else is doing wrong. I would like to haves a list Where people are treated with respect, and you don't have to read about the trouble someone went through to spoon feed you the fix for your problem, or how great someone thinks his own podcast is, or how badly someone think Apple is doing. In short, stuff that matters to members one and mostly all. That's my vision. Carolyn On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I'm just curious, what do you mean by simi professional? Thanks, Courtney On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: So sorry to see you leave us. Indeed, let me go further. I'm sorry to see the former quality of this list degenerated in to something that, to speak frankly, it has no business being. It certainly was not this way when I first came on board. To speak candidly, it would appear that certain people get very agitated when Apple, (or for that matter anybody else) doesn't respond immediately to them and solve all their problems like the world revolts around them. No Chris, I'm not picking on you particularly; though it may perhaps seem otherwise. Look, let's face facts. We al of us are trying to get used to this new beast we find under our hoods. Some of us like it and others have issues. Frankly, it seems to me that emotions are running rather too high to suit the circumstances. I'm remaining though. Why? Simple. I know that, eventually, this too shall pass and the list will return to normal. At least, that sure better happen. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:16 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hello list members: I'm writing in response to some of the latest goings on here. I'm Carolyn, a former moderator of the group. When I was asked to back off, and then told summarily that hundred of people had complained about my mod style, I decided perhaps my expectations were just too stringent, and pushing people away. I can not continue to be on this list as it currently is. I'm considering starting a resource list for semi-professional interchange , and would like to know if there's any others interested in such. If I'm alone in this endeavor, at least I'll know for sure that I tried. My email is chaas0...@gmail.com. Please only interested people respond, as I've had enough hate mail for one lifetime.:) Take care, and thank you for reading. Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Hello Tim: As usual, very well thought out and very well spoken. I don't have the issue at present, thankfully. But, I really appreciate your succinct and clear explanation. Thank you. Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, I suggest that people dig a little deeper into the issue. In fact, I'd suggest You go into Activity Monitor, Interact with the Toolbar, make sure that the Processes pop-up is set to All Processes and then take a look at the percent CPU of the running processes. For the most part, the ones beginning with MD are the Spotlight related processes. If they are not using a high percentage of the CPU, then the below mentioned idea is totally unnecessary. Actually, I'd simply note the processes using the greatest amount of CPU and check with someone knowledgeable as to their importance. Stopping processes can lead to undesirable consequences if you're not familiar with the entire picture. One thing to note for those of you using external HDs, Spotlight will often index that external HD, especially if it's a clone of your main HD, this indexing will certainly create extra load and thus, extra heat. If you're not using the drive consistently, disconnect it and you'll notice changes in behaviour. Just my thoughts. Later… On 2011-07-26, at 10:35 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Yes Dear. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my block sender's list. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say
Re: can't find the message content column
Hi ray: Awesome explanation here. I've been playing with mail, but didn't have a good sense yet of that layout. Someone described it to me as being similar to how iPad shows mail. Anyhow thank you. This helps. Carolyn On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: All I have to do when I want to get in to the message content area is just press the tab key. Say I'm arrowing up or down and or even pressing the delete key and come across a conversation I wish to read. I focus on that conversation and just press the tab key. At that point, I just use VO+up or down to read the messages in the conversation. Note that the oldest message in the conversation is at the bottom most area. Should I wish to focus on a message in a conversation, I just focus on it using VO+up or down and then interact with it. From there, I can interact with the header group or else the actual text of the message. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:20 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hey list, I used to have a great streamline for my mail in snow leopard but i'm having troubles finding the message content area in my current lion configuration. Is there a specific key combo to bring the message content area back up? Cheers Yuma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Strange thing with folders
Hi Jeff and Allison: I have my view set to columns. When I open a folder, I do so by right arrowing, and the list behaves normally. I don't know if this is helpful or not, but you might want to try column. Take care Carolyn On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote: I am also seeing this behavior. I hope someone has the solution. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:58 PM To: Mac Visionaries Subject: Strange thing with folders Hi all, Every time i try to open a folder in documents the strangest thing happens. I open the folder with command O, but I have to hit shift VO M and go down to the view submenu and enter on list to get the items in the folder to be displayed. Why is this? I just used to hit command O and it worked perfectly. Any ideas? Thank you for any assistance you can proide. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why use a TrackPad?
Hi Geoff:It really comes down to what you need, and how you prefer to navigate. The beauty of this whole system is it's built-in flexibility, and the choices it affords. Unfortunately, this also makes learning the system more difficult sometimes. Kind of like too many differing kinds of toothpaste each of which does essentially the same thing.:) Some people like to use trackpad, some numbed, some just prefer a pc. (sorry for them.:) I'd have to say, unless you just want to play with another option for navigating, there's no need to add a trackpad to your configuration. JMO. Carolyn, On Jul 26, 2011, at 2:56 AM, Geoff Shang wrote: On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, it's one way of avoiding all the multi-finger keystrokes. Indeed. I forgot to mention that we bought a full-sized keyboard with numpad so that we could use Numpad Commander, which I guess is relevant to this discussion. So the question is, should we get a trackpad *as well*? Apart from the comment about it being useful on web pages, I'm thinking not. Geoff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Booting from the Lion Partition
Hi Dan: I'm confused. I haven't had to put my id in once I made the purchase. Install never asked for it. Have I missed something? (darn, thought this was going too easily to be true.:) Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Dan Roy wrote: I want to do a fresh install of Lion. I did the upgrade, but, as I mentioned on the list before, I am having a few problems. I am thinking a clean install might straighten it out. My problems seem to be unusual enough where I feel like something might have gotten corrupted during the upgrade or maybe even before. anyway, I am able to boot to the Lion partition with no problems. However, when I get to the part of the install where you have to put in your apple ID, apparently, that window is opening in the background. Since we don't have access to all the voiceover features, I can't seem to focus on that window in order to put in my ID. I was able to shut off vo, and by tapping the trackpad randomly, I was able to get it to the foreground once. However, I can't do it again. I am wondering if anyone has discovered another, more reliable way of getting it done? I am assuming that burning a CD would result in the same problem. If anyone has an idea of how to get around this,I would appreciate knowing about it, thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on terminal.app. 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing sudo mdsutil -a -i off Then press return. Type your administrator password, then hit return. Great! Now indexing should be disabled. 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but probably not. If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're done! If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, either way! Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the following two commands. I should add all these commands are case sensitive, so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em again. Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise doing this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type: sudo chmod 600 /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search Then for the change to take effect, type: killall SystemUIServer And hit return. Then quit Terminal with command+Q. Boom! Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot computer! Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address this, I'll write another e-mail post on how to undo all this crap. Again, I didn't say this was for the faint of heart, and if something blew up in your face along the way, again, I didn't say! to do this! I said, do it soly at your own risk. Chris. -- You
Re: Booting from the Lion Partition
Hi Dan: Ok, thanks. That explains it then. Just wanted to be sure I didn't somehow botch things up before I can learn how to do so.:) Thanks again. Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Dan Roy wrote: Well, if you did the download and install, it asked for your Apple ID and password before approving the purchase. then, if you went through and completed the install, it wouldn't ask you again. However, if you ever want to install from the bootable partition, then, it will ask again. I think I have found a way to do it though. I can boot from my external drive, this will be a full VO with a full OS booted, I think, then, it should work. So, there is a work around, but, I am still curious about doing it from the bootable partition that is designed for that purpose. On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:47 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Dan: I'm confused. I haven't had to put my id in once I made the purchase. Install never asked for it. Have I missed something? (darn, thought this was going too easily to be true.:) Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Dan Roy wrote: I want to do a fresh install of Lion. I did the upgrade, but, as I mentioned on the list before, I am having a few problems. I am thinking a clean install might straighten it out. My problems seem to be unusual enough where I feel like something might have gotten corrupted during the upgrade or maybe even before. anyway, I am able to boot to the Lion partition with no problems. However, when I get to the part of the install where you have to put in your apple ID, apparently, that window is opening in the background. Since we don't have access to all the voiceover features, I can't seem to focus on that window in order to put in my ID. I was able to shut off vo, and by tapping the trackpad randomly, I was able to get it to the foreground once. However, I can't do it again. I am wondering if anyone has discovered another, more reliable way of getting it done? I am assuming that burning a CD would result in the same problem. If anyone has an idea of how to get around this,I would appreciate knowing about it, thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Yes Dear. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my block sender's list. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on terminal.app. 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing sudo mdsutil -a -i off Then press return. Type your administrator password, then hit return. Great! Now indexing should be disabled. 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but probably not. If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're done! If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, either way! Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the following two commands. I should add all these commands are case sensitive, so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em again. Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise doing this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type: sudo chmod 600 /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search Then for the change to take effect, type: killall SystemUIServer And hit return. Then quit Terminal with command+Q. Boom
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Hello Mj: Your Spanish is commendable. I think perhaps Alex failed to correct my misspelling of the suggested drink. My commentary was based more on a lack of any sense of professional writing, such that the wonderful and apparently amazing fix was totally lost among the gibberish of the presentation. I do appreciate your bring these things to my attention, and I certainly wish your good buddy the best in getting his Apple certification. Take care Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:01 PM, Ben J Bloomgren wrote: Carolyn, Regardless of any subsequent messages, this is the only message that you will receive from me on this reply. I'm posting this solely on the merit of what was suggested, not on friendship or enmity. According to Chris, a former senior adviser who has been promoted to an engineer has confirmed that this solution, though extreme, is totally viable and works perfectly. I haven't tried this solution, as I'm a newby and I don't trust that I wouldn't fowl something up, but I do trust his credibility.Chris is working on his apple certifications. He has worked on the Unix server side for at least ten years trying to write bash scripts. His experience is with Unix, Linux, Free BSD, Open Suce and others. This is not Unix, but Mac OSX is based on Unix under the hood, so that's why it works. Is this solution daunting? Oh baby is it ever! If Chris crashes my system due to a muck-up on his part, it's not the biggest deal due to my Time Machine backup. If the logic board is fried, Time Machine ain't comin' to my rescue! What he suggested is incredible in the best sense of that word! Frankly, I'm not sure why he doesn't go out to Cupertino to work for Apple. Carolyn, yo hablo español. Estudié en Hermosillo, Sonora, México por un semestre, y gané un diploma universitario en lengua española. Recibí un certificado en interpretación medical. Si usted va decirle mal a la gente, favor de escribir bien sus palabras. No he oído hablar de tiquila. Si usted se refiere a la bebida alcólica, se llama tequila. Carolyn, I speak Spanish fluently. I studied in Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico for a semester. I earned a Bachelor's degree in Spanish Language and a certification in medical interpreting. If you're gonna cut people down, at least spell your drinks correctly. I've not heard of tiquila, but I have heard of tequila. In Chris's defense, knock it off! P.S. If either Chris or I are moderated or banned because of this subthread, we are both leaving the list. He has confirmed this with me. Sincerely in Christ, Ben J. Bloomgren On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight
Re: Both Braille Table Flavours.
Hi Anne: What are these tables? Is this just related to braille printing? Carolyn On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:09 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Georges, Unfortunately, the CeciMac Braille tables won't work with Lion. There are no plans to create new ones either since the work required would be enormous and the demand is minimal. Apple has used the Duxbury tables and they are far from ideal. Cheers, Anne On 25 Jul 2011, at 05:12, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Hi! Is it possible in addition to the newly introduce braille tables by lion to install the cecimac.org braille tables? I am asking because there are combinations in numbers in the Swedish version that came with lion which I didn't like and I prefer the one I had from cecimac, I really installed the cecimac but that resulted in destroying all tables, now I am leaning due to other issues towards wiping out my hard drive and begin from scratch. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reminder wanted
Hi guys: I'm not in Lion yet. So, this may be irrelevant. But, will shift not work with home or end in the new configuration? Carolyn On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Ricardo is understanding perfectly what I want to be able to do. Funny thing is, I know that there's another way other than shift+Option+up or down arrow to do this; just cannot recall now what it was; and, it had exactly the same result. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 25, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I don't think thats what he's trying to accomplish. To select items just 1 thing at a time he can just press shift up or down arrow. He is asking if you can select from a current position in the messages list all the way to the beginning or end with 1 keystroke. In snow leopard , you can do this by pressing option shift up or down arrow. I don't believe such a command exists in standard view in Mail on Lion. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote: I was just able to use shift+cmd+downarrow to mark two messages and then delete them. Give that a whirl. In the Journey, Ron On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Because I want to be able to select say from the second message on down to the 75th all in one keystroke. Will VO+up or VO+down let me do this in Lion? IF not, how is it done? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote: Why are you not just using VO+uparrow/downarrow? In the Journey, Ron On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. Let's say I'm in my sent items folder and need to select from the fifth message downwards. I understand that in Lion, the usual method of pressing the shift+option+up and down will no longer work. Can anybody remind me of the alternative procedure? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why use a TrackPad?
Hi: Actually, the trackpad and commander are pretty amazingly useful. A good friend of mine mapped out a lot of the keyboard commands, linking them with gestures. And the result is the ability to do with one hand many of the things that take 6 fingers on the keyboard. I use it so much that I don't know what came with the original setup of gestures, and which are the invented one.:) One of my face things to do wht the trackpad is continuous read. Then just turn it off when doing any serious typing. Take care Carolyn On Jul 25, 2011, at 3:15 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, it's one way of avoiding all the multi-finger keystrokes. I like the idea personally, but in my experience the trackpad commander on a macbook doesn't work nearly as well as the IOS touchscreen interface unless I'm trying to type and accidentally hit it with my palm. Then it works wonders taking me all kinds of places I never meant to go. You'll get a lot of feedback from people who find it really useful, but I think it's kind'a gimicky . Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing the Ebony consulting announcements list, A monthly newsletter about services, events, promotions, and other information on access technology consulting. To read more and subscribe, Visit: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-07-25, at 5:09 PM, Geoff Shang wrote: Hi, My wife and I were pondering on the subject of trackpads in relation to using VoiceOver, and we thought we'd tap into the collective whisdom here. What, if anything, does a trackpad allow you to do that you can't do with the keyboard? Or is it merely another interface to the same commands? I know some of you have varius macbook models where a trackpad comes as standard, but we have an iMac and want to know if a trackpad is something we should consider purchasing. But we're not going to buy one if all it does is make Mac OS X feel more like iOS. Any thoughts will be appreciated. Thanks. Geoff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reminder wanted
Hi ray: Gee, I guess I don't do a lot of that. Bt, that should be pretty standard in my humble opinion. Odd. On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Nope, it don't work. Never did. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 25, 2011, at 5:12 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi guys: I'm not in Lion yet. So, this may be irrelevant. But, will shift not work with home or end in the new configuration? Carolyn On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Ricardo is understanding perfectly what I want to be able to do. Funny thing is, I know that there's another way other than shift+Option+up or down arrow to do this; just cannot recall now what it was; and, it had exactly the same result. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 25, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I don't think thats what he's trying to accomplish. To select items just 1 thing at a time he can just press shift up or down arrow. He is asking if you can select from a current position in the messages list all the way to the beginning or end with 1 keystroke. In snow leopard , you can do this by pressing option shift up or down arrow. I don't believe such a command exists in standard view in Mail on Lion. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote: I was just able to use shift+cmd+downarrow to mark two messages and then delete them. Give that a whirl. In the Journey, Ron On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Because I want to be able to select say from the second message on down to the 75th all in one keystroke. Will VO+up or VO+down let me do this in Lion? IF not, how is it done? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote: Why are you not just using VO+uparrow/downarrow? In the Journey, Ron On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Okay. Let's say I'm in my sent items folder and need to select from the fifth message downwards. I understand that in Lion, the usual method of pressing the shift+option+up and down will no longer work. Can anybody remind me of the alternative procedure? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues
Hi David: Can you be bribed? On Jul 25, 2011, at 7:24 PM, David Tanner wrote: I am certainly glad that I don't see nearly as many bugs in VoiceOver as you will find in the shark. - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:12 AM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Hi, In regards to the iWork stuff, Its kinda unfair to pin that on the Lion OS in my opinion. after all, There has not been a major update to iWorks since 2009. Lets see what the next big release will mean for accessibility. And in regards to the lack of new features, hmm, I don't know. For example, How many new features exist in jaws 12 that weren't there in jaws 10? I'm not sure how many new features one can really cram into a screen reader in 2 years. And as far as the bugs go, its not like Apple is going to delay Their new OS because of some Voiceover bugs. Lets give it an update or 2 to see what happens? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Luca wrote: I agree, i was expecting a lot more from vo in lion... look, two years have passed since last release, and what have you new? ok activities, single navigation letter (which could have been made better...), international voices (very buggy, cant deny it...), and new drag and drop... Well in two years only these things is a little on my opinion.. Braille support is terrible, whe told them, wrote a lot of mail... and nothing has changed. Still You cannot do decent word processing with vo, no tables, no footnnotes detection, no title/list detection... Ok some of these things you can do wiith pages but in an extremely convoluted and non efficient way.. And what about numbers? you can use it in a very basic way only... And i am not speaking of bugs, those i hope will be fixed.. but there are quite significant ones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Absolutely incredibly awesome finding in Safari, Item chooser issue resolved!
Hi Zach: I've always used it instead of the item chooser. I set option F to do this for the sake of convenience, and found after that Never messed with the item chooser at all. On Jul 24, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Chris and All, Maybe I'm missing something, but I always used vo-f in Safari, whether in Snow ELeopard or Lion. It always worked for me as far as I could tell, and I have no idea whether things were visually on screen or not, though it didn't seem so. So I'm surprised this is new? Best, Zack. On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Hey guys. You're not gonna believe what Mom and I just discovered! This is totally cool! Remember how vo+F for find used to only search what was visually on the screen, well, I just had her scroll me where my findquery was searching for something not visually on the screen. It? Did it! It found it almost instantly! So, this leads me to think that maybe Apple now wants us using vo+F in Safari. I don't know if that would work everywhere globally, but it sure as hell does in Safari. Even the things like the gmail sign out link, or the hazel nuts etc. all those that you all've reported don't work in the item chooser list, I too confirm they don't with vo+I, but visually on screen or not, they work perfectly here with vo+F. Wait ago! Apple! I can't believe that none of us thought of trying this sooner. I guess I just assumed that vo+F still worked as always and thus didn't bother trying. God do I feel stupid. Frankly all of us should. LOL! Now, if they could fix the ITunes sluggishness, and then the ITunes not speaking while scrolling, then finally can fix the Safari issue where it notifies you when a download begins without having to look at your toobar then we'd have it made. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Making Mail Easier with Activities
Hi Mark and Anne: Could he use them in rears order, starting with 0 or 9 so they wouldn't require a hand cross for the first 5? On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Mark, Have you thought of creating shortcuts in Keyboard commander for a couple of hotspots? That should make it easier for you. Cheers, Anne On 22 Jul 2011, at 17:09, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Is there a way to mark hot spots that doesn't make you cross your hands over each other to hit the keystrokes VO 1 and VO shift 1, for example, require me, at least, to cross my right hand over my left to hit the numbers with. Just curious if, other than locking down the VO keys with VO semicolon--something I rarely do--there's an ergonomically more efficient way. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Inputting with grade two braille on the Mac.
Hi listers: I have a related question: I believe this may have been discussed, but I'm finally getting fluent enough with the Braillino to pair with things. I've found it doesn't work nearly as well with iPad as with iPhone. And this makes no sense since it's the same OS. With the iPhone, I can input grade 2 braille, but this sends my iPad into terrible fits.:) Has anon had experience with this? Any hope in sight of grade 2 and iPad? Thanks for any input (any grade will due.:)Carolyn On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: Input in grade 2 would be awesome! I've gotten pretty fast at inputting in computer braille out of necisity, but prefer grade 2. Caitlyn On Jul 17, 2011, at 11:46 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: I think it's not likely since the what's new made no mention of it, but that doesn't stop me from hoping. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing the Ebony consulting announcements list, A monthly newsletter about services, events, promotions, and other information on access technology consulting. To read more and subscribe, Visit: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-07-17, at 11:33 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi All. I connected my Essys to my Mac this afternoon via Bluetooth and was disappointed to see that we can only input in grade one braille although the braille display will show grade two. As those of you know if we connect braille devices to the I phone we can input into grade two braille. I really hope that we will be able to do a lot more when Lion is released. I hope there are some beta testers who are giving braille feedback to the Apple developers. I'm thinking of becoming a beta tester next year for this purpose. What do people think would they like to input using grade two braille? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The lion sleeps tonight
Hi Carleen: Mine still thinks so, and it's been a year and a half.:) Carolyn On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:08 PM, carlene knight wrote: Am I missing some voice choices? I'm only finding Alex, Fred, Olivia and Vicki. I might be missing one or two, but only Alex sounds high quality to me. Are there others somewhere? I've looked in the default voices under speech and found nothing else. I also tried checking the voices with the VO/CMD/arrow keys and managed to crash mail. :) My computer knows when somebody that's almost computer illiterate is using it. :) Thanks. On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, If your a voiceover user, its a great deal for $30 in my opinion. We now have 1 letter navigation in the web browser, profiles you can set up for different apps. A boat load of new high quality voices for no extra charge. And I'm sure I'm missing some new features. I can't see any reason not to upgrade unless there is some important app you use that is not Lion compatible. On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Brian Miller wrote: I haven't seen anyone say one way or the other whether or not one ought to download and install Lion... Can we be certain it is the best thing for those of us who use Voice Over? What are the changes? What are the benefits? I'm a little reluctant to just download Lion because it is there. What happens if I don't download it? Brian Miller -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone bluetooth keyboard questions
Hi Red: I just played around a it with mine, and voH actually brought me to Home from favorites. But, don't hold me to that.:) I do know command shift H did nothing, which surprised me. I'm using an Appe Wireless keyboard. But, the keyboard commands are the same. Congrats on getting an iPhone. Carolyn On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi all! So I've finally joined the Iphone crowd! I've had a little play with connecting my Apple keyboard with the Iphone and it works great! So to my question! Is there a way to get back to the home screen with the keyboard, the only way I've found so far is to use the home button on the Iphone! And the other question is are any of you using a Freedom i-Connex Mini Bluetooth Keyboard - White with your Iphone and if so does it work ok with vo? Any suggestions welcome! Colin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Inputting with grade two braille on the Mac.
Hey David: Had no idea! Wonderful! Thank you. Carolyn On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:31 PM, David Tanner wrote: Well, go to your settings for Braille and set it for Contracted Braille input. That is quite easy to do. - Original Message - From: Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Inputting with grade two braille on the Mac. Input in grade 2 would be awesome! I've gotten pretty fast at inputting in computer braille out of necisity, but prefer grade 2. Caitlyn On Jul 17, 2011, at 11:46 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: I think it's not likely since the what's new made no mention of it, but that doesn't stop me from hoping. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing the Ebony consulting announcements list, A monthly newsletter about services, events, promotions, and other information on access technology consulting. To read more and subscribe, Visit: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-07-17, at 11:33 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi All. I connected my Essys to my Mac this afternoon via Bluetooth and was disappointed to see that we can only input in grade one braille although the braille display will show grade two. As those of you know if we connect braille devices to the I phone we can input into grade two braille. I really hope that we will be able to do a lot more when Lion is released. I hope there are some beta testers who are giving braille feedback to the Apple developers. I'm thinking of becoming a beta tester next year for this purpose. What do people think would they like to input using grade two braille? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion
Hi Chris: Do yourself and all of us a favor: Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a pointless rave like this. No one really needs to hear it. On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, why in the heck is it, that if I go to either http://www.freedomscientific.com Or: http://www.hj.com Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff happening here as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick with me, it gets even weirder than item choser stuff... I'm just setting some ground... anyway, if you hit vo+i, then do d o w, you won't get the downloads link, yet if you use vo+U and go to links in the roter, then! do it, it works, then go to jaws for windows screen reading software, then try to find the jaws 12 download link, if you hit vo+space on that link, Safari says the page cannot be found. Now, here's the weird part. If I try this from my xp pro sp3 machine with either I E, or Firefox, then hit enter on the link, same network l A n, same public I P address, same internet connection, etc. same d h c p, same d n s, same router, nothing changes but the platform, the download works like a charm! Let me say this, no jokes. I've had a really rough day, and quite frankly am not in the mood for the smart mouth comments, like, well yeah, Jobs hates FS so he blocked you from the site, or why would you compare jaws to VO, or want to download the fish... you may have a point, but no you really don't, OK. This isn't about one screen reader being better than another. this is about the item chooser, and the router, and the downloading in Safari consistently across many pages be very inconsistently odd in behavior. Take it as such. If you can't offer anything resourcesful and just wanna throw lookie jokes around, look, I'm not tonight as I would normally be, in the mood for it. OK? Please, if you all test and find the same thing, let me know. I'd be interested if anyone knows why the things in Safari have to be so d*** annoying. I'm frustrated yes, the mods could say that and that I need to chill, and I'm willing to, but people, come on! I mean, really, one could argue, I'm not the one who decided to jup into Lion right away. You're right. Perhaps I jumped the gun too soon. But, that really isn't your right to say. The thing is, I'm getting more stressed with the Lion update by the minute. What ticks me off more though is Apple doesn't seem to give a rat's butt one way or another, ar at least it doesn't appear that way, but I'll explain more about that in another more rellavant post. It's making my experience though not very enjoyable, I tell ya that! though. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion
whatever works dear On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Carolyn, why don't you do me! a favor actually, and don't ever! contact me on, nor! off list again. It's obvious we don't get along. I'll say no more on list than that, but, I will say leave? me, alone! end, of, discussion! This is nonnogociable! Chris. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion Hi Chris: Do yourself and all of us a favor: Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a pointless rave like this. No one really needs to hear it. On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, why in the heck is it, that if I go to either http://www.freedomscientific.com Or: http://www.hj.com Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff happening here as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick with me, it gets even weirder than item choser stuff... I'm just setting some ground... anyway, if you hit vo+i, then do d o w, you won't get the downloads link, yet if you use vo+U and go to links in the roter, then! do it, it works, then go to jaws for windows screen reading software, then try to find the jaws 12 download link, if you hit vo+space on that link, Safari says the page cannot be found. Now, here's the weird part. If I try this from my xp pro sp3 machine with either I E, or Firefox, then hit enter on the link, same network l A n, same public I P address, same internet connection, etc. same d h c p, same d n s, same router, nothing changes but the platform, the download works like a charm! Let me say this, no jokes. I've had a really rough day, and quite frankly am not in the mood for the smart mouth comments, like, well yeah, Jobs hates FS so he blocked you from the site, or why would you compare jaws to VO, or want to download the fish... you may have a point, but no you really don't, OK. This isn't about one screen reader being better than another. this is about the item chooser, and the router, and the downloading in Safari consistently across many pages be very inconsistently odd in behavior. Take it as such. If you can't offer anything resourcesful and just wanna throw lookie jokes around, look, I'm not tonight as I would normally be, in the mood for it. OK? Please, if you all test and find the same thing, let me know. I'd be interested if anyone knows why the things in Safari have to be so d*** annoying. I'm frustrated yes, the mods could say that and that I need to chill, and I'm willing to, but people, come on! I mean, really, one could argue, I'm not the one who decided to jup into Lion right away. You're right. Perhaps I jumped the gun too soon. But, that really isn't your right to say. The thing is, I'm getting more stressed with the Lion update by the minute. What ticks me off more though is Apple doesn't seem to give a rat's butt one way or another, ar at least it doesn't appear that way, but I'll explain more about that in another more rellavant post. It's making my experience though not very enjoyable, I tell ya that! though. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues
Hi David: Very well said. It's so easy to gripe and start blaming someone when what we did before doesn't work the same anymore. I like the way you've pointed this out. It sounds much better than I could have done. Take care Oh, and BTW: found that iPad setting. Thanks again. Carolyn On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:13 PM, David Tanner wrote: How much of the problems that people are having is caused because the OS is new, and things are done a bit different and it is too soon to have learned the new ways of doing things in the new OS. There a large majority of those who are complaining of problems who are new or relatively new to Apple in the first place, and now they are trying to deal with a new operating system which was announced to have way over 200 changes and new features. People need to realize that it is going to take more than 24 hours to learn a new operating system that has over 250 changes and new features. And, how many of these folks have sat down with the list of new features and even read through them to learn how to use those new features? Let's see where things are a month from now. I bet by then there are going to be a lot of changed attitudes about the whole Lion experience. - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues I wouldn't so much say that they are losing commitment, as much as I'd say, they seem to be getting very sloppy. I mean, ok, here's my thing. I totally am with all you all in saying everyone just chill. the only reason I'm keeping my stance so strong on this is the fact that look at this. I mean, this looks like we should still be running a beta with all these bugs. come on, lookit! We have some beta testers on here, do we not? Admit it, did you all see any of these bugs? If not, then wow. I apologize. Really I do. I'm then out of lign severely, and for that, I'm ashamed of myself, but, really, think about this for justa minute. OK, you all can shoot me, I know you may want me to shut up, as does a few people who we won't mention, but, if they and all you others will please I beg you, just! for once, hear me out for a second. If you will, and will at least acknowledge me, then I'll perhaps shut up. Just let me have this for a sec. Look, let's addres this from a fact stand point rather than a Chris's opinion standpoint, ok? this way it's more fair. 1. We all agree this is a new O S, right? 2. We all agree that things are very buggy in many areas, right? Uh dab dab dap? Holdit! I'm not done, listen to me! I'm still talking. You'll get your chance. I didn't ask you all if th3e problems can be addressed in a software update. I'll address that in a second. right now, we're just looking at the facts. OK? So I repeat: 2. Is it not true, that we all agree that lots of things are buggy? Yes, or no. 3. Do we all agree that these are problems that should have probably been addressed at least to some extent during the beta cycle before the official release? Yes or no? 4. Do we all agree that most of these bugs can be delt with and tollerated to some degree? OK then. I think we all agree on all the above, so why such hostility toward me and everyone else on list by some members. Look, I feel you all's frustration, we just want things to work, but we also are getting frustrated at the nonconstructive messages cluttering the inbox of many. But, there is a delete key, and I assure you, things will die down once Lion is more progressed. Right now, everyone is just kind of in that what the bird state right now. do we need to chill? OK, maybe so, but, really people, do you really think that an O S should be this buggy before official release? I know you all don't like hearing what I'm saying, and it's pissing you all off hearing it, but that's because I am not afraid to speak my mind nor the truth. The blunt truth is, at least in my view of things, Apple is beginning to fail miserably at there line of duty with accessibilty. Now, does this mean I'm saying that they are purposefully? doing this? No! Mark it in red what I say here: Ab, suh, lootly? not! I think they're just becoming more and more lazy, maybe not wanting to be so involved. Maybe they're trying to take on too much at once. I, don't, know! I don't know what goes on behind the scenes there? I probably don't, wanna? know! The point is, we really can't make accusations, can we! We don't know if they're really working behind the scene or not. So, on the one hand, should we probably just chill? Yes, but, having said that, is it mortally wrong for me to constructively complain about observations I've found? Yes. Is it justifiable to say negative things about bugs I find
Italian iPad: was getting more voices for 10.7
Hey Teresa: Sorry to highjack this. But, You've brought up something that I wanted to ask but was hesitant. I'm experiencing strangeness with. My iPad has suddenly become an Italian voice, speaking pigeon English! I'm not kidding! It's making me crazy, as it hard to track down anything with her speaking half Ital and half English. I did go to settings, and US English is indeed selected. But, when I press any other buttons, or drag around the screen, the little Italian Lady is back, and then she says, screen looking! Anyone have any thoughts on this, short of restoring the iPad to factory defaults? TIA Now Where's my spaghetti?:) Carolyn On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Nope. I just downloaded eleven voices for free, including the English Indian one and the Scottish and Irish. Also, I downloaded Italian, since I'm learning some Italian songs. Very fun. :) They do take up quite a bit of space, however. Teresa On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Christopher Peppel wrote: Hi there, Hate to ask, but does it cost anymore for the extra voices? As far as Lion goes, I think it is a matter of getting used to some of the changes. Chris On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:03 PM, David Tanner wrote: Well, I got there by going to System Preferences and then to the Speech settings. When I got the list of voice choices I chose a voice that had not been available in Snow Leopard to be my System voice. Once I took an OK on the change I was prompted whether I wanted to download that voice. I answered yes and the entire group of voices apparently got downloaded since it was almost a 400 meg download. Once it was downloaded I was prompted as to whether I wanted to go ahead and install them or install them later. I answered yes to go ahead and install the package and the multi-lingual package was installed. HTH - Original Message - From: Ed Worrell edworr...@bresnan.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:42 PM Subject: getting more voices for 10.7 Hello, I was wundering if anyone knew where to find, the place to download the new voices for Lion. Thanks ED -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: What the heck is com.apple.doc.extra, and is there any way to make it go away?
There is, Chris: Turn off your computer! On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Yes, on your ITunes thing! I flippen! hate it! Chris. - Original Message - From: Daniel Miller To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:16 AM Subject: RE: What the heck is com.apple.doc.extra, and is there any way to make it go away? Missy, I don’t know what it is either, but it’s really really annoying. Also, has anyone noticed that VO randomly won’t tell you when it’s on, and you have to press CMD-tab to get to the Finder before it will start speaking? I emailed apple accessibility yesterday, but haven’t heard anything back from them. Once I do, I’l post the response on this list since I felt there were some concerns that needed to be addressed. Also, I know this is straying off the subject, but has anyone noticed slow response times with VO and iTunes 10.4? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: What the heck is com.apple.doc.extra, and is there any way to make it go away? Hello, all. I completely forgot about the 1 other thing that's frustrating me with regards to lion. I suspect this might be part of what's slowing down boot-up times, but could be totally wrong about that, of course. Anyway, when the mac first starts up, I'm in this thing that says com.apple.doc.extra has no windows. I don't know what it is, but command-tab takes me back to the finder. Is there any way to permenantly get rid of this thing, whatever it is? Also, I haven't noticed any issues with mail at all; have played with it a bit, and it works just fine. So, apart from the problem with midi I wrote in about earlier, and this com.apple.doc.extra thing, I'm over all satisfied with lion, but am happy to know that I've got sl backed up on my external hard drive, just in case things get too weird. As always, thank you very much for your time, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Turning off and on VO speech
Hi George: As far as I know, the only way to do this is with command f5 turning off VO. You can also turn it off in the menus under Vo utility, but I'm guessing you want something a little better than this.:) Carolyn On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:34 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: I am wondering if there is a command from the keyboard to toggle speech on and off without using the trackpad. Original message: Hi, Yup, You can turn the trackpad commander off by holding down control and option an placing 2 fingers on the trackpad and turning them counter clockwise. On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:31 AM, Cakes wrote: Hi Ricardo and all, Thanks for helping me out once again. You guys are great! Is there a hotkey for turning off and on the trackpad? Great idea of course. Johnny Cakes Chilelli On 7/21/2011 12:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, And you might want to just turn trackpad commander off when not using it to prevent accidental gestures. On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Cakes wrote: Hi folks, Help! First of all, every once and a while I somehow mute VO by simply accidentally touching the track pad. I think the way to unmute VO on a 13 mbp is by hitting the fourth button from the top right corner of the keyboard. Right? But this time; and I think it happened one other time, I somehow shut off vO speech altogether. Oh my! Hitting cmd F5 turned VO on but then it reported that VO speech is off. Now I am unable to get VO to speak at all. Any help is always appreciated. Thanks, Johnny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: trying to download lion?
Tammy: Cmd-shift-A will get you to the applications folder. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Tammy wrote: What’s the best way to get to the aps folder? It’s in the doc but it appears you can’t get there via that shortcut. \Tammy From: Zachary Kline Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: trying to download lion? Hi Chris, THe installer is put in the Applications folder, but after it is used to install the system it self-destructs. To prevent this you can quit it initially with cmd-q, and you'll find it in there. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Has anyone yet been able to figure out where in the heck the app store actually puts the installer for Lion? What if I wanted to back the installer up on a dvd? Is the installer not a .app file etc? Chris On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Dona, Yes, this is the what happens. You can monitor the progress of the download via the purchases button in the toolbar. Also, the installer will open automatically when the download finishes. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, So I went to the app store, clicked to purchase Lion, and clicked Confirm Purchase. It now says Installing Lion, but nothing else is happening. The downloads folder hasn't opened, and I'm still on the page with the info about Lion. It's been like this for about five minutes. Is this what should be happening? If not, any suggestions for next steps? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
a music question
Hi guys: I've gotten inspired to try again at ripping my vinyl to computer. I have some really intricate classical pieces, and, though I have severe herring loss, others don't,:) so I'd like to get the very best sound quality out of these that I can. The other variable is I'm working with a Griffin iMike. The only real program I'm a little familiar with is Vinyl Studio. Given those perameters, can anyone tell me what kind of file to preserve the music to? Also, given my inexperience with all of this, would I be better off having someone do this professionally for me? I'd really like to get this music down in the best possible format. If I wind up with a cochlear implant, I'll want to have as much of the real sound preserved as possible wo work with in remapping how I hear music. Tia for Carolynany suggestions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: maybe my macbook is too hot? was Re: can't get my macbook to stay shut down
Hi Christina: My answer will not be likely to be very helpful. But, perhaps your computer is haunted? Ok, on a more serious note: Mine only runs pretty warm when I'm running a lot of apps at the same time, forcing it to work harder, or when I operate it on a soft surface. The only other time is when I'm charging something like the iPad that pulls power through it. On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Christina wrote: So, I finally got my macbook to stay Shut down instead of spontaneously restarting a few minutes after I shut it off. So, I just had a theory that the folks at the apple store could get it to shut down and stay shut down because maybe my macbook had cooled off by then. So, I put a fan blowing on my macbook and propped it up and let it cool off. I shut my macbook down and then it stayed shut down until I restarted it. Could this be the reason my macbook keeps restarting all on it's own? How do I know if my macbook is overheating? I know the obvious of it feeling hot. It does feel hot but it has always felt kind of hot or warm. The internal fan rarely comes on. It only comes on if I'm really working the system with video or something like that, but that's pretty uncommon. Thanks for all the help. I did check the schedule section and all seemed fine there and I am definitely navigating to the Shut down button and I am not using the restart button. Have a super weekend and thanks, Christina On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Christina wrote: Hi all, Every time I shutdown my macbook it won't stay off. No, I am not hitting restart instead of shut down. A couple of months ago I had to take my mac book to the genius bar so I kept shutting down the computer and it kept restarting. I wanted to turn the computer off before I put it into the bag. Well, I told them about it at the apple store and the problem would not reproduce. Last week I had to travel and I encountered the same problem when trying to pack my laptop. I thought I finally got it to stay shut off but it restarted all on it's own in the bag. So, tonight, I tried to google the problem and I cannot find any help. I have very recently repaired permissions so I don't think that would be helpful. Any ideas? Thanks, Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: adding to libery in the new itunes?
Hi Trahern: It sounds to me like you have gone into list view instead of column or icon. Quite honestly, I haven't clearly memorized how each reacts. But, you can change these with command-1,, 2, or 3. The view settings, as these are called change how VO interacts with lelments. Hope this helps. Carolyn On Jul 17, 2011, at 9:47 AM, trahern culver wrote: thanks for your help i cant open difrent folders every time i press the arro keys to do this v o sais selection replaced and now v o also sais file list instead of saying file brouser like it used to in the old itunes any one know what's going? kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Network problems
Hello Mark and Geoff: With all due respect to both of you, Please take this discussion off list. It really is kind of off topic, and not conducive to the resourcefulness we're striving for. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Friendly, Carolyn On Jul 14, 2011, at 2:56 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Geoff, I truly don't understand your apparent hostility towards me nor your desire to publicly insult someone to whom you don't bother to extend the most basic of courtesies. Are you incapable of asking me a question without attacking my character? Geoff, it has been said by those wiser than I, that people tend to view others as they view themselves; something we should all keep in mind before we attack those with whom we have never met. Regardless of the mean-spirited tone of your post, I am certain that you are a nice person who wishes to help others and this is why I have decided to pay you the respect you clearly do not think I deserve by both ignoring your antagonistic remarks and answering your question said answer being the following: The reason I responded to Ed, on-list, is so that other list members would know that a reply was posted. Moreover, it has been my experience that few, if any, tend to reply to network issues for the reasons stated in the post to which I am referring. Some members, who receive few or, in some cases, no replies to a question may take it personally and I, like you, don't want anyone to feel as though they are being ignored, pre-judged, or attacked. That is All. [The Gospel According To Mark, Chapter 221.] (Big Smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Network problems Hi Mark, Other than illustrating your proclivity toward boundless narsisism, what purpose was served by sending this to the list? Best regards. Geoff On Jul 13, 2011, at 4:12 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Ed. Troubleshooting network connectivity issues can be one of the most challenging a support person can face. However, rather than engaging in lengthy email correspondence, please send me your contact telephone number, off-list, and I will endeavor to assist you. Please include the city/state/time zone in which you live and the best time to call. Mark On Jul 13, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello Listers, I am having some issues with seeing my network hard drive. My drive is plugged into a NetGear wireless hub. I can not see the hub or the drive plugged into it with my MacBook Pro. My MBP is running the latest version of the OS. Please help me figure it out. If need be , contact me off list at edworr...@bresnan.net Thanks ED please check out my music at http://soundcloud.com/blinded Follow me on twitter at http://twitter.com/#!/blindworrell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Prizmo on the Mac!
Hey Colin: I had no idea it was available for the Mac. So, I have no other input except thanks for pointing this out.:) Carolyn On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi all! Sorry to bring up OCR again! But I've seen on the discussions people talking about vu scan and that one beginning with D and Abby fine reader! Then people really like Prizmo on the Iphone! But Prizmo is also available for the Mac and I was wondering why that is not mentioned! Is the Mac version not as good as the others or is it not vo friendly! Or no one has tried it or no one has heard of it! Any input welcome! Where ever you are have a great Day, Night or even Morning! Colin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Resignation of Moderator
Hello listers: I'm just writing to let everyone know I am no longer moderating for this group or the ViPhone group. I thnk Cara for the opportunity to be a part of something so useful and regret having to give in to the suggestion that my being here was a power issue. I'm not interested in Power, I'm interested in things Apple. For anyone who assumes otherwise of me, Assuming leads to misunderstanding and hurt. Enjoy your mac journey everyone. Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari Keyboard Reference Posted
Hi Doug and others: In the interest of streamline our traffic, and our resourcefulness, Can you please take up the tweaking of Doug's gracious efforts off list? This is in no way an attempt to rain on anyone's parade, but again, to try to keep things streamlined. Thank you for understanding, and keep up the good posts. Enjoy the day. Carolyn On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hi Esther, I have updated the keyboard reference with your suggestions. They are most helpful. Please take a look and let me know if I can do anything else with it. Thank you very much, Doug On 2011-07-12, at 4:43 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Doug, One suggested addition for your Safari Keyboard Reference, unless you want to limit yourself to only cover commands listed under the Safari menu bar: Add the fact that pressing Command-1, Command-2 etc. will activate the first 9 bookmarks in the Bookmarks Menu Bar, whether the Bookmarks Menu Bar is shown or hidden. You might want to amend the descriptions for viewing and bookmark options to show/hide or hide/show for the commands that are toggle actions, e.g.: Viewing: To hide/show the tool bar press “Command-|” To hide/show the Bookmarks Bar press “Command-Shift-b”. To hide/show the Tab Bar press “Command-shift-t”. To hide/show the Status Bar press “Command-/”. Bookmarks: To Show/Hide All Bookmarks press “Command-Option-b”. You've written this up for the default Safari browser settings, which is fine, but many VoiceOver users choose to hide their bookmarks menu, etc. (so those items don't show up in item chooser menu), so it's convenient to know which shortcuts are toggles. Also, FYI when on the Show All Bookmarks page of Safari (Command-Option-b), the Command-f acts as filter to only show matches to bookmarks that contain the search string. If you're curious, you can point your browser to: file:///Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/Shortcuts.html (You may have to copy this, then navigate to your address bar with Command-l, paste with command-v, and then press return to activate the link.) This is a pointer to the Shortcuts resource page within your Safari Application Contents on your machine. Some of these are alternative shortcuts, like delete and shift-delete to go backwards and forwards. Also, one of the very commonly used Safari shortcuts for VoiceOver users is Option-return (or Option-enter if you're used to Windows naming return as the enter key). This is one of the shortcuts listed under Other browser window shortcuts as Option-click a link to download a file. VoiceOver automatically selects/highlights links that it moves to, which is what the click action by sighted users does, so you only have to press return after pressing option to complete the action. You'll find this is true for the other shortcuts that specify clicking on the link, too, so Command-return on a link will open the link in a new window or tab. This shortcuts list was technically for Safari 4, so I'd check out any shortcuts before including, if you're interested in this. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 12, 2011, at 07:21, Doug Lawlor wrote: I'll try to get a Mail reference posted tomorrow. Doug Sent from my iPhone On 2011-07-12, at 2:00 PM, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote: Thanks for posting this. I'm sure it will come in handy! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Safari Keyboard Reference Posted hello all: I just wanted to let you all know that I have posted a Safari Keyboard reference to http://www.douglawlor.com/safari-keyboard-reference. Any comments on these references would be well appreciated, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: office applications
Hi James: The accessibility of the iWorks suite has been the subject of many a discussion here. There is some room for improvement. But, people are using the applications with some success. Please have a look at the archives from this group for boatloads of commentary on their accessibility as well as helpful tips and links to podcasts and tutorials. You can find the archives by using the links at the bottom of every list post. HTH Carolyn On Jul 11, 2011, at 9:14 AM, james walton wrote: How accessible is it? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Have you thought about using IWorks made by Apple? It's only $79. Chris. - Original Message - From: james walton jmwalto...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:47 AM Subject: office applications what do you all use for office tasks? I have never heard of any good accessible office programs for mac, i have heard of LibreOffice but don't know if it is accessible. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a couple of trackpad commander questions
Hi Donna: Well, I had been using the trackpad with some success, particularly for continuous read text. I have had success previously working with mail in the past. But, I just tried to reply to your post using the trackpad to get in place to type, and got all of nowhere. I can interact with scroll area to read from the top of a message, but trying to double-tap on reply to gets me nowhere. Also, I typically interact with my messages list to move down subject lines, and enter on anything I want to read But, on the trackpad, I had to stop interacting with messages just to select yours to try to work with. Either some things are broken/changed, or I need a quick refresher course. I'm guessing it's the latter. But, now you've got me curious. I'll let you know what I find. Carolyn On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Jim, Colin, and all, Not sure why, but this isn't working for me. In fact, I'm having abysmal results with the trackpad commander as a whole. Does anyone seriously use this thing? The only column I can get it to read in mail is the mailbox column, despite swiping left and right and having it tell me I've moved to a different column. Moreover, the text that is spoken when I try and navigate with Trackpad Commander isn't the same as that which is spoken when I use the arrow keys. I've tried all this while interacting and not interacting. If anyone is really using the Trackpad commander, I'd appreciate any pointers. I've used an iphone since the 3gs was released in 2009, so I'm really surprised by this. Best, Donna On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote: According to keyboard help, you are supposed to be able to hold down the the control key and tap to jump to a linked item, such as moving from the messages table in mail to the text. I can get this to accknowledge this gesture in keyboard help, but for some reason, I cannot get it to work in the mail program. Thanks On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Esther, thanks for this info. I knew that there are some gestures that are different from or not present on the iPhone, so I'm sure I'll find the help section very useful. I'm really surprised that there isn't a way to open an email message using the trackpad. that seems like a major oversight, particularly given that this obviously works on the iPhone. It's interesting, too, because doubletapping does work for opening an app. But, at least I know I wasn't missing something, either in regards to this or having all columns of the messages table read (another major oversight imho) Cheers, Donna On Jul 9, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Donna, 1. There's a section in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (Chapter 11 on Using VoiceOver Gestures) that describes using TrackPad Commander. Use VO-H to bring up the help menu and press g to go to the Getting Started Guide and return. Open the web item rotor with VO-U and press g e s to get the two relevant sections (Chapter 11 and Appendix A listing the Commands and Gestures). If you want the list of standard gestures, go directly to Appendix A and navigate to the section on VoiceOver standard gestures. (I'd use VO-U for the web rotor and press s t.) A lot of these will be familiar to you from using the iPhone, but there are some other ones like going to the dock or menu bar (two finger double tap near bottom or top of trackpad), or opening the application or window chooser menus (two finger double tap along left or right sides of the trackpad), and changing how VoiceOver reads text (word, line, sentence, paragraph) by pressing the Command key while your finger touches the trackpad, that are different. 2. I don't know of a way to get all the columns in the messages table announced at once with TrackPad commander. 3. I press return to open a message in mail I'm probably not the best person to answer your questions. Maybe somebody else can give you better answers. Cheers, Esther On Jul 9, 2011, at 07:18, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I've finally decided to spend some time messing with the trackpad commander, and have a couple of questions. 1. Is there any way to view a list of commands? when I go into the assign Commands table I can see the gestures, but none of the commands are displayed. 2. How do I navigate in Mail? Single-finger flicking takes me out of the messages table unless I interact, and if I interact, VO only reads the column that I'm on. I'd like to be able to hear all columns like I do when not using the trackpad commander. 3. How do I open a message in mail? I would have thought you would do this with a double-tap like on the iPhone, but that isn't working. Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send
Itunes and syncing: was permanently removing downloads
Hi Teresa: Welcome. And I have a question: I have Navigon on my computer, but can't get it to sync back to the phone. I don'teven see a way to affect a change in the checkbox. I'd like to have it back on my phone to try again and make friends with it. Can anyone give me a clue why it won't sync back, even though other apps are syncing. Take care and tia for any info. Carolyn On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:45 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Perfect, Carolyn; thank you. I didn't even notice that apps playlist in the library. Then I had an adventure with the apps displayed, because I'd somehow gotten them into a grid view. Once I switched them to a list, everything went great. Thanks again. Teresa On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:06 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Teresa: If I understand what you're asking here: All you need to do is to go to your apps table in iTunes, (the one from the actually library, not the device). Command delete on the ones you don't want anymore, then resync should get rid of them from the iDevice. I think You can also keep apps in iTunes but have them not sync, by unchecking their checkboxes in the apps. table. HTH Carolyn On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm using the most recent beta version of ITunes. There are a few apps that aren't accessible, which I want to remove. When I remove them from my IPod, they sync again periodically and they're bck! How can I delete these for good? Do I need to turn off syncing temporarily? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Permanently Removing Downloaded Apps From all Devices
Hi Teresa: If I understand what you're asking here: All you need to do is to go to your apps table in iTunes, (the one from the actually library, not the device). Command delete on the ones you don't want anymore, then resync should get rid of them from the iDevice. I think You can also keep apps in iTunes but have them not sync, by unchecking their checkboxes in the apps. table. HTH Carolyn On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm using the most recent beta version of ITunes. There are a few apps that aren't accessible, which I want to remove. When I remove them from my IPod, they sync again periodically and they're bck! How can I delete these for good? Do I need to turn off syncing temporarily? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about Lion from the app store?
Hi Joseph: I believe the Apple people indicated the program would not be sold as a disk. But, there would be a way to reinstall from ICloud. On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Joseph Norton wrote: Hi: Sorry if this has been repeated, but, I'm wondering about the upgrade. I understand Lion will be available from the app store. If I do this, will there be any way to make an install disk, or, do I need to order from Apple to get an install disk? Any information would be helpful. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Success! Help received.
Hi Johnny: There are two guides and a tutorial on your computer. There is the getting started VO tutorial, you can access by pressing vo-command-f8. There is the Welcome to Snowleopard, and also user guide all right in that handy-dandy little machine. If you press command-spacebar, you will bring up something called spotlight search, in which you can type whatever you're trying to find in your Mac. If you type user or guide you'll receive a list of hits which spotlight thinks are relevant. I found the one to one offered by the Apple retail stores particularly helpful, and, of course you have the best group of resourceful folks around you right here. Enjoy your Mac journey. Carolyn On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Cakes wrote: Thanks again folks, I'm back up and running and VO is talking to me once again! As for now,-to where I'm running to - I'm not too sure. But I'm getting it. I'm working this thing! grinning Johnny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Just bought Pages
Hi Shannon: I only work with the blank one as well. The other ones would be pretty neat to understand and make use of, since I'm terrible at knowing page formatting.:) But, the fancy templates allude me. Take care Carolyn On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Shannon Dyer wrote: Is there a particular template you choose on a regular basis? I chose the blank one, but wasn't really sure if that was correct. It just seemed to be the most sensible at the time. Basically, it was a guess. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:41 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Shannon: Just one little thought. If something doesn't work right, try interacting with it. Also, you should be aware that there are lots of templates. they're meant to make things easy, visually. But they can make for pretty difficult cleanup, since they're in Latin and might confuse you at first. Take care Carolyn On Jul 2, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Shannon Dyer wrote: Hi, all. I just purchased Pages for my MacBook. Is there anything in particular you think I should know to get the most out of the program? I'm used to using earlier versions of Microsoft Word. So, any tips or tricks would be appreciated. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Quick Question About Skype
Hi Ezzy: Try working from the Address book tab. Also, if you dial a number from the dial pad, it will be with that person's name under contacts. Sounds odd, I know, but that's what happened with a couple of mine. Carolyn On Jul 3, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Ezzie Buenito wrote: Hi Colin, I myself am trying to add phone numbers I have saved on Skype, since I have the plan to call landlines and mobile phones. Has anyone else figured out how to get the people with phone numbers to show up along with the online contacts? Thanks, Ezzy - Original Message - From: Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 01:21:25 +0100 Subject: Re: Quick Question About Skype Hi Silly! I've had a look around Skype! You can just have the online contacts showing without the offline ones! But You'll have to change from Skype tab to Address tab for your phone contacts! I could not see any way to have both at the same time! To get the Skype contacts online only press the contacts monitor button! hth Colin On 3 Jul 2011, at 23:48, silly Ez wrote: Hello List, I hope that you all are having a great and safe Fourth of July weekend! As some of you may know, it is rare for me to sign into Skype. When I do sign in, I would like to see the contacts I've set up with phone numbers listed along with those that are online. I don't want to have to see the offline contacts. Is there a way to do this on the Mac? Thanks, Silly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Just bought Pages
Hi Shannon: Just one little thought. If something doesn't work right, try interacting with it. Also, you should be aware that there are lots of templates. they're meant to make things easy, visually. But they can make for pretty difficult cleanup, since they're in Latin and might confuse you at first. Take care Carolyn On Jul 2, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Shannon Dyer wrote: Hi, all. I just purchased Pages for my MacBook. Is there anything in particular you think I should know to get the most out of the program? I'm used to using earlier versions of Microsoft Word. So, any tips or tricks would be appreciated. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] jumping around the web?
Hi Joseph There are a couple of ways to do this. In some cases, such as a clearly defined article, you can use command-shift-r to bring up the reader. If it's going to work, the article will start speaking immediately. You can other wise use search for the first words in text, if you know them. Or you can use command-vo-H to jump to headings, command-vo-m to go to same level headings. These have come in really handy since I learned them. One other trick is to look for the word search, and text often starts just below that area. HTH Carolyn , On Jul 2, 2011, at 1:06 PM, joseph wrote: ok, how to jump to tex on a given webpage using safari on the mac? thank you in advance. bestOn 2 Jul 2011, at 16:42, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Just use command+j to go from one form field or control to another. Here's another way, use VO+u to access the web roter and then choose form controls from the horisontal menu. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:21 AM, KliphSharrie wrote: Okay, have tried finding this everywhere, but since I can't find it I will ask. How do you jump quickly to check boxes, radio buttons, and combo boxes? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: need some apple help...
Hi Eric: In case someone hasn't suggested this yet: If you look on Craigslist, there are always people offering to unlock a phone for a small fee. At least, here in Denver area there are.:) Good luck. Carolyn On Jul 1, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: Hey folks I need some help. I was given an iphone 3 GS and its still tied to ATT. I tried to call them to get it carrier unlocked and they told me to call apple. apple told me to call ATT. I really like the device but cannot afford to have 2 cell contracts nor can I break my current contract with t-mobile without incurring an early termination penalty. does anyone have some information on who to call over at apple? I know they can unlock the phone (they sanction it for some EU carriers) and I know that they sell an unlocked version. I just can't see paying $500 for a new phone that is carrier unlocked (I don't have that kind of discretionary funds laying around either). the phone has the latest series 4 iOS on board. I really don't want to jailbreak the device if I can avoid it. any help would be greatly appreciated. -Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: .flack on the Mac
Of course, you could always rehire that a-flack guy who's out of work. On Jun 29, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Sounds like some kind a movie title huh. Flack on da Mac. LOL! Anyway... no, seriously, heheheheh... I have a whole discography here of an artist that a friend gave me. It's about 25 discs all total. Problem is, they're all .flack files. the last I recall, ITunes wouldn't play these. I know I could easily enough use VLC, or maybe even Cogg, but the whole idea was to get these into my ITunes and eventually on my IPod touch. I would use Switch from NCH, but I can't afford it. Is there not some free sollution? I got Amadeus Pro, but it's a real old version, only 1.1, as I can't afford the updates, and seeing I got about 25 albums to do? Um? Unless there is a tach converter? I'm not terribly sure I wanna do each file one? by one! God, that would be annoying! Any suggestions? Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac book pro running very hot
Hello Mike: You might have missed this. Earlier in the thread, she said Apple Spell was using a high per centage, and resetting it temporarily made the issue stop. Carolyn On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You might check the process manager, see if something is running that is using all of your processor's resources. In particular, stuck print jobs can do this. On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:20 AM, johns.kary wrote: Hi guys, I've got a strange problem hear, and I'm really hoping it's software not hard ware. A couple of days ago my Mac book pro started running hot, the fan would kick in a short time after start up, and would pretty much run constantly from there until I shut down again. Now, it's the middle of winter hear in Australia, so the temperature hardly get's above 20 Celsius, Even with the heater going my lounge-room is definitely not hot enough to up set the MBP. I checked all the usual culprits, Things I'd forgotten to remove from the finder, apps running in the background, ect, no deal it still happened. I ran a permissions repair, worked for about a day, then started all over again. So I went deeper and had a look at the activity monitor. Most things are running at 0.0 or or not much higher, except for one. Something called applespell.service was varying between 84 and 99%. I quit it, and it went back to 0.0 and my MBP immediately started cooling down. A short while later it started heating up again and the fan cut in and remained on again. I went back and checked, and sure enough applespell.service was running at 99%. Once again I quit, and things cooled down again. It's been running at 0.0 for a bit over an hour now, the Mac is a lot cooler, and the fan hasn't kicked in once. So I'm assuming I've found my problem. The thing is it seams to be reoccurring frequently. Does anyone have any idea what's going on hear? Do you guys think I've found the problem, or am I completely off the mark? I'd really like to fix this my self, not only for the satisfaction, but my nearest apple store is an hour and a half away, and finding transport for that long a trip can be tricky at best. :). Thanks in advance for any thoughts-help. A very! frustrated, Kari. Ps all software is up to date. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Update on mac running hot, from bad to worse!
Hi Kary: This really sounds like an issue to consult Apple's tech support about. Someone there might be able to point you to a more long term solution. I don't know if you have tried doing a search of the Apple site for the issue, but it might be worth a look. Best of luck, and I hope you don't end up having to take your Mac in. On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:45 PM, ; wrote: Hi guys, Well things seam to have gone from bad to worse! My mac has been working fine all last night and most of to day, with applespell.service consistently running at 0.0. So I thought my troubles were over. No such luck! I wasn't paying very close attention, so I'm not 100 % sure when it started running hot again, but i'd say it's probably just the last hour it's been heating up again. I've had my mac running since 9 this morning so it's been on probably 4 and a half hours ruffly. Not always in use either. As soon as I noticed I went and checked and sure enough, my old friend applespell.service was running at 85.4 This is wear I ran in to real trouble, quitting or force quitting the process is now having no affect! I can't get it to run at anything below80. I've been monitoring it for a while now and I thought I'd post the details hear on the off chance someone can see something in them I'm missing. Parent process, launched 127, process group applespell.service 524, % CPU: 80.87, recent hangs: 0, threads:2, page ins: 0, ports: 44, mach messages in: 20410, CPU time: 29:15:29, mach messages out: 43623, context switches: 52211, mach system calls: 32307, Faults: text, UNIX system calls: 2831336. The only programs I've had running most of the time is safari, Mail and text edit. Thanks for any more thoughts, I guess my next move is to contact apple. *sigh* Kari. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Contacting a Mod/Owner
Hello Chris: I recently listed the owner and mods. I'll do this again, in case anyone else has concerns or questions: List owner: Cara quinn: email: modelc...@gmail.com Moderators: Carolyn Haas: Email: chaas0...@gmail.com Mark taylor: email: mk...@ucla.edu Carolyn On Jun 26, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I have a question for the list owners, but I cannot for the life a me figure out on the googlegroups page wher3e to go to write you guys. It used to be fairly straight forward, but all a sudden, I dono what Google's done to their web site, but frankly, it's now a mess! Obviously, unlike with Yahoogroups, I cannot just write to listname-ow...@googlegroups.com That bounces, if I try. So... would one of you all please get back with me to address my question off list? I hate clogging the list asking this, but I honestly at this time see no other way. Sorry for the inconvenience. clgillan...@gmail.com Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes navigation
Just another idea: If for some reason that doesn't work, you can shift-vo-end, and then vo-arrow back a couple and you're there. It beats arrowing all the way across. On Jun 20, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Ron, Often Ricardo's suggestion of vo command h does exactly what you want, even though you are not already in the html area of ITunes. It use to work 100% of the time for me. Lately, sometimes it does not work, and I have no clue why that is. Type the search term, press enter and do vo command h and see if you get to the first heading within the html area. It works most of the time for me. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How Are MS Word Tables Handled in TextEdit?
Hi teresa: Sometimes, I think they should redo the whole of pages. I just spent an enormous amount of time trying to get a resume and cover letter neat. Even with high verbosity, all punctuation, and everything else we could think of set to high, I still had extra spaces between words that weren't being acknowledged by VO. I literally went letter by letter to finally assure that it was all good. Completely unacceptable, and made me ashamed to be referring people to use this software. Somehow, I wish this community could impress upon developers and Apple that just a little more info would go a long way to making Pages useful. As it is, I'm very very discouraged. Carolyn Haas On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, all, Yesterday I opened an MSWord document that I knew had a table in it. When I opened it in Pages, as expected, VO didn't read the table at all. When I opened it in TextEdit, all the info in the table was presented, but VO did not indicate that there was a table. Needless to say, I think I'll be viewing most MS Word documents in TextEdit, but I'm curious as to how the tables are handled. I'm also going to ask my sighted husband to look at the table in these applications. Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Um, VO Doesn't Seem to Work with the Mobile Me Site?
Hey Teresa: Maybe I'm just being grouchy today. But, I think it's time to perhaps see if we can get the accessibility team to do more than forward our issues to the developers. I'll go to bat for this company with all my heart and soul. But, I'll also expect them to provide solutions to serious issues like you're experiencing. And yes, I'll smile, still. :) Carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Thanks for all the info, Bryan. I think I will simply have someone help log in when I need to find my IPod. sigh Shame, shame, shame on Apple. :( I am disappointed. However, let's hope they have a more accessible solution soon. Thanks, Teresa On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Teresa, I have some bad news and some good news. First the bad. Believe it or not, Me.com is pretty inaccessible using VO or any screen reader. Esther has posted some workarounds that can help in some situations. One of Esther's tips is that it can be less painful to login if you include the specific section of the me.com site in the address bar as I've included in the following URL: www.me.com/findmyiphone When you get to that site, chances are you will still hear lots of the dreaded Safari busy, Safari ready chatter, but be patient and you should eventually be able to enter your id and password. I've noticed that it can take some VO left and right to hit the actual edit fields, and the button labeled sign in sometimes requires routing the mouse cursor to the VO cursor and then performing the VO-Shift-Spacebar mouse click. I just tested this and it got me to the find my iphone section of the me.com site but I was not able to find anything useful on that page using VO. Now for the good news. Aside from the me.com mess, I think you can perform the actual setup of the find my ipod service from your ipod itself. If you haven't already done so, take a look at the instructions at the following Apple site for setting this up on an ipod touch: http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/find-my-ipodtouch-setup/ More good news is that there is an App called Find my iPhone that is VO accessible and runs on an i-device. It will find any i-devices that have been setup on the find my i-whatever service under the ID you use to login after launching the app. It allows a sighted person to view a map displaying the approximate location of the i-device in question, and it has fully accessible functions allowing you to send a text message with or without sound, change the device's password, or wipe the device. You can even use the app to test the device you are running it on. Here's a link to the app in the US App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/find-my-iphone/id376101648?mt=8 Hopefully Apple will be replacing me.com with an upgraded and accessible website as part of the iCloud initiative. I had emailed accessibil...@apple.com a few months ago and they flat out told me the me.com site is not accessible with VO or any screen reader, but they offered no insight into when this situation might be improved. HTH, Bryan On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm actually *hoping I have the wrong URL for the Mobile Me site. I'm trying to activate the find my IPod service, and when I go to www.me.com VO mostly says busy and will occasionally read one element on the page. Is it just me? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille on the I phone.
Hi Kawal and Claus: This should definitely be reported to accessibil...@apple.com. It's really the only way things are going to be noticed and possibly fixed. Carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Absolutely, it happens when I route my letter with the braille routing cells. On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, With my Focus Blue from Freedom this happens with Danish contractions whenever I route the cursor to a letter that is written as a letter an interpreted correctedly as a letter not a contraction, by VO in the first place, but as soon as I route braille to the letter it is expanded. Very anoying. Apple should give us some more customisation options in the braille settings, e.g. to expand or not to expand a word when you use a router key to place the cursor at the letter. I am not sure I would use this at all, only in the study mode like FS has done, but not so that it makes changes to the text you have written before. Claus Den 17-06-2011 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu skrev: Hi. As I'm not on the VI phone list, I am posting to another list as there may be people on it who may be having this problem. I use a Euro braille 40 which I pair up with the I phone 4 that I have. If I use it more than half an hour with braille contractions on, after a some period of time each individual letter like P or any other letter associated with a braille contraction even if it's meant to make a word, gets translated. For example, if I write permision, the P in permission translates as people even though I have written permission. Has anyone had this problem and if so how to get rid of it? Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Issuing VoiceOver commands on an IPhone with the Bluetooth keyboard
Hi Paul: If you go to Apple.com, search for accessibility and keyboard commands, you should be able to find what you're looking for. Also, you can get this info at applevis.com On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello everyone. I want to know how to issue a VoiceOver Read Page command on my IPhone with my Bluetooth keyboard. I also would like to know how to use the roter command from the keyboard. I know about the vo+k command. However, how can I get a complete list of keyboard equivalent keys for the IPhone? Thanks so much and I hope you have a good day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Um, VO Doesn't Seem to Work with the Mobile Me Site?
Hey Scott: You're right, of course. I guess after struggling for these past couple weeks t produce two pretty simple documents that might look like they weren't written by a blind person, I'm kind of frustrated with the very accessibility I usually brag to others about.:) I have 6 copies of my resume, and 5 of my cover letter, each of which btw STILL has some spacing issues. And, I'm usually not a poor typist.:) Anyhow, iCloud will likely resolve the mobile quirks. Take care Carolyn On Jun 18, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Carolyn, I would not expect a lot of effort from Apple on fixing the existing site since iCloud will be replacing it in the not so distant future. The question will be how accessible is the next version and what exactly will there be in terms of an interface if any. I have the impression that the MobileMe site will be going away at some point in its entirety. Scott On Jun 18, 2011, at 2:13 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hey Teresa: Maybe I'm just being grouchy today. But, I think it's time to perhaps see if we can get the accessibility team to do more than forward our issues to the developers. I'll go to bat for this company with all my heart and soul. But, I'll also expect them to provide solutions to serious issues like you're experiencing. And yes, I'll smile, still. :) Carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Thanks for all the info, Bryan. I think I will simply have someone help log in when I need to find my IPod. sigh Shame, shame, shame on Apple. :( I am disappointed. However, let's hope they have a more accessible solution soon. Thanks, Teresa On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Teresa, I have some bad news and some good news. First the bad. Believe it or not, Me.com is pretty inaccessible using VO or any screen reader. Esther has posted some workarounds that can help in some situations. One of Esther's tips is that it can be less painful to login if you include the specific section of the me.com site in the address bar as I've included in the following URL: www.me.com/findmyiphone When you get to that site, chances are you will still hear lots of the dreaded Safari busy, Safari ready chatter, but be patient and you should eventually be able to enter your id and password. I've noticed that it can take some VO left and right to hit the actual edit fields, and the button labeled sign in sometimes requires routing the mouse cursor to the VO cursor and then performing the VO-Shift-Spacebar mouse click. I just tested this and it got me to the find my iphone section of the me.com site but I was not able to find anything useful on that page using VO. Now for the good news. Aside from the me.com mess, I think you can perform the actual setup of the find my ipod service from your ipod itself. If you haven't already done so, take a look at the instructions at the following Apple site for setting this up on an ipod touch: http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/find-my-ipodtouch-setup/ More good news is that there is an App called Find my iPhone that is VO accessible and runs on an i-device. It will find any i-devices that have been setup on the find my i-whatever service under the ID you use to login after launching the app. It allows a sighted person to view a map displaying the approximate location of the i-device in question, and it has fully accessible functions allowing you to send a text message with or without sound, change the device's password, or wipe the device. You can even use the app to test the device you are running it on. Here's a link to the app in the US App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/find-my-iphone/id376101648?mt=8 Hopefully Apple will be replacing me.com with an upgraded and accessible website as part of the iCloud initiative. I had emailed accessibil...@apple.com a few months ago and they flat out told me the me.com site is not accessible with VO or any screen reader, but they offered no insight into when this situation might be improved. HTH, Bryan On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm actually *hoping I have the wrong URL for the Mobile Me site. I'm trying to activate the find my IPod service, and when I go to www.me.com VO mostly says busy and will occasionally read one element on the page. Is it just me? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
Re: Voiceover on the iPhone
Hi: I'd be taking that to the Apple store right away. Shouldn't be doing that, and I don't believe there's a setting that would affect that kind of change. carolyn On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:08 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote: Hi all, When my iPhone battery drops below 20% Voiceover stops working. Given that the battery life on the iPhone is not great to begin with, and 20% is still a lot, I am wondering if maybe there is a setting I can change to allow Voiceover to continue to work even below the 20% mark. Thx, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Help, my gmail email account's not syncing to my mac or Ipod
Hi Steph: Well, Gmail's kind of like the weather at times. Wait a few minutes and it'll change.:) I've had things go odd like that. You might honestly leave it alone for a couple hours and try again with differing results. It could be anything from server issues, to the mighty cloud having hiccups, to the lunar eclipse.:) If it persists, I'd be interested to know what steps you're taking, and what's different. Best Carolyn On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, My gmail account on apple mail on my Ipod and apple mail on both of my macs isn't syncing. By this, I mean it says it is offline. I haven't changed any settings on the gmail server. I didn't change anything within apple mail either. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: network
Hi Clifton: You can simply go into your status menu, with vo-shift-MM. Look for your network's name, and vo-space on it. YOu should be prompted for your password or wpa or WEP. Enter that and it should connect. On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:53 PM, KliphSharrie wrote: So where do I go to connect my mac to my wireless router? And what choices do I make? I saw something about a VPN, but didn't want to mess anything up, so I left it alone. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Google Voice) 657-229-2105 Sent from my IMac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flashdrive for Christine
Hi Christine: At the risk of sounding archaic, you might just go ahead and burn a CD from iTunes, and .:) It would be a lot fewer headaches. The fact that you got half of your music to copy makes it seem as though a reformat isn't the answer. Carolyn On Jun 13, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: Darn. Wish I had seen this earlier. Last night, I managed to get half of my music from my media folder onto the drive, but for the life of me, I cannot get the rest on it. I cannot figure out why the media folder works, but not the music in my regular iTunes library. The most current additions aren't transferring. I think I may just have to start fresh. If anyone can give me a quicker way of shjaring music files with my famly, let me know. Christine On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Christine, I had this problem once before too. BUt it wasn't with music, it was with any file. THe only way I resolved the issue was to format the drive. YOu can accomplish this in Disc Utilities. Open your applications folder and then type U T for utilities and hit command O on it. THen type d I for disc. hit command O to open that window. You should see the drive in there. You can tell if it's the hard drive on your Mac verses the flash drive by how big it is. Once you find it there should be an option to format it. You might have to VO and right arrow after you find it. I had to do this with a flash drive I purchased. Once I did, it worked perfectly. I hope this helps. Have a great day. Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: just submitted report to Vuescan Dev regarding Text edit
Hi Ray: Thanks for taking the initiative to do this. He is pretty good about at least reading and considering feedback. I'll do the same when I try Vuescan again. Take care Carolyn On Jun 13, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: For the benefit of those of us having issues with Text edit not opening automatically, I just sent a report to the developor regarding this matter. I assume, of course, that I am not the only one and that others here have submitted a report. Just in case I'm the first, I would encourage others having this issue to send their very detailed step by step reports along with the Vuescan.log file to: edhamr...@aol.com You can fine the Vuescan.log file via this path: c/User/Library/Preferences (where user equals your name). Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Issues with VueScan 9.x
Ray: This is erroneous info. I've done OCR with Vuescan. Only, it won't do orientation for you. Carolyn On Jun 12, 2011, at 5:23 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Uh, well, sounds to me like your not running OCR at all. YOu need to run VUScan and then run OCR with Abby Fine reader or some other OcR app and then save through your OcR app. VUScan will not do OCR directly. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 12, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hello there. I'm trying to use VueScan to see if it's as good as Abbyy when it comes to ocr and that kind of stuff. I have a problem, though. I can't seem to open textedit and see the results of the scanned documents, even though i have chosen to have textedit as external text editor. Do i have to also start textedit before using VueScan or what should i do? Thanks so much. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: List Messages
Hi Dan: It's been going along all day. Not a lot of traffic, but definitely still alive. Might want to reboot and see if your mail has some kind of snag. Carolyn On Jun 12, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Dan Roy wrote: I haven' received 1 message all day, I am wondering if the list is still up? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Fwd: VueScan settings
Hi Ray and anyone else who missed this: Anne posted this a couple days ago. BTW: you can just go to hammock.com and download the latest. I believe when you do the install, it will update what you already have. Then you can lose those earlier ones if you want. Again, the latest is at the website, not the Apple store. I don't know if the latest upgrade needs to be purchased. I'd guesss it depends on how long ago you got the earlier one. Now here are the settings Anne gave. HTH Carolyn Begin forwarded message: From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk Date: June 10, 2011 1:38:55 AM MDT To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VueScan settings Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Below are the settings for VueScan. Cheers, Anne 1) Select Input; 1.1) Task: Scan to file; 1.2) Source: Your scanner; 1.3) Media: Text; 1.4) Media size: Auto; 1.5) Preview resolution: 300 dpi; 1.6) Scan resolution: 300 dpi; 2) Select Output; 2.1) Default folder: Folder you have created for this purpose; 2.2) Printed size: Scan size; 2.3) TIFF file: unchecked check box; 2.4) JPEG file: unchecked check box; 2.5) PDF file: unchecked check box; 2.6) OCR text file: checked check box; 2.7) OCR text file name: Name for document being scanned; 2.8) OCR text multi page: check or uncheck as needed; 2.9) Raw file: unchecked check box; 3) Select Prefs; 3.1) Language: Choose your language out of the 29 available; 3.2) Font size (pt): 16; 3.3 Crop units: mm; 3.4) Printed units: mm; 3.5 External viewer: unchecked check box; 3.6) External editor: checked check box; 3.7) Editor: TextEdit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: sever/network issues
Hi Mike: I did try using control-f8. It mostly said system UI server. I managed to get it connected now. But, even when I go into advanced and try to change network name and settings, though I hit save changes, and apply, it defaults back to the myqwest name and settings At least it allowed me to remove my neighbor's unsecured Netgear server. And, at least it brought in the mail.:) CarolynOn Jun 11, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You might try using control f8, this is the mac command for going to the status menus. On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:41 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi guys: I've recently had my internet go crazy. I can't get VO to go to the status menu. Vo-MM only stops at the Apple menu. CTL-F8 says, system UI server. And during Apple training today, Melissa noticed that my cursor tracking was intermittently getting separated. I think I'm connected now, as Ive got 33 new messages here. But, it may be to the network next door. Any help in understanding any of this would be very much appreciated. Don't think I can sleep with my Mac out of sourest. (I know, that's weird. Isn't it?:) TIA for any help. Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Trouble with PDF files
Hi Christine: It's possible that they were sent as scanned images, in which case you'd need an OCR program to read them. A long way around option, if you have a scanner is to print the attachment, and run it through your scanner for it's ocr capability. Carolyn On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: Greetings to all. I am trying to figure out why I cannot read two PDF attachments which were sent to me this morning. I've never had difficulty before. I did open two pdf files I was able to read before, to make sure that they still were accessible. However, the two I received today are on the screen, according to a sighted person, but are not being read. Any ideas? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: NEver mind about Eloquent, it works.
Hi Jes: I'm confused why you'd want to run Eloquence on the Mac. Is this the Eloquence that is a speech synthesizer, or some app I've not heard of. Please excuse my not knowing. Carolyn On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Jes Smith wrote: Just had to turn VO off and back on again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: sever/network issues
Hi Mark: Thanks for the suggestions/questions. Actually, yes, I finally got it working by doing a reset, turning Airport off, removing my neighbor's unsecured network from the choices, and turning airport back on. It's still pretty quirky, (we had to reset again this afternoon). And I can't get the network control group to save the changes when I try to rename the network to something other the the infamous myqwest. But, yes. For the moment, it's working. (Man, it's hard to type with one's fingers crossed.:) Carolyn On Jun 11, 2011, at 5:41 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Carolyn, I have been following this thread. I am so sorry for your network issues. There are few things more irritating than trying to troubleshoot a network problem. Be that as it may: Is it possible that your router has been reset or experienced a power surge lately? Do you have a Ethernet cable to test the router? If you have an iPhone, iPad, etc, have you experienced any problems initiating WiFi? Mark On Jun 11, 2011, at 10:03 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Mike: I did try using control-f8. It mostly said system UI server. I managed to get it connected now. But, even when I go into advanced and try to change network name and settings, though I hit save changes, and apply, it defaults back to the myqwest name and settings At least it allowed me to remove my neighbor's unsecured Netgear server. And, at least it brought in the mail.:) CarolynOn Jun 11, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You might try using control f8, this is the mac command for going to the status menus. On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:41 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi guys: I've recently had my internet go crazy. I can't get VO to go to the status menu. Vo-MM only stops at the Apple menu. CTL-F8 says, system UI server. And during Apple training today, Melissa noticed that my cursor tracking was intermittently getting separated. I think I'm connected now, as Ive got 33 new messages here. But, it may be to the network next door. Any help in understanding any of this would be very much appreciated. Don't think I can sleep with my Mac out of sourest. (I know, that's weird. Isn't it?:) TIA for any help. Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
sever/network issues
Hi guys: I've recently had my internet go crazy. I can't get VO to go to the status menu. Vo-MM only stops at the Apple menu. CTL-F8 says, system UI server. And during Apple training today, Melissa noticed that my cursor tracking was intermittently getting separated. I think I'm connected now, as Ive got 33 new messages here. But, it may be to the network next door. Any help in understanding any of this would be very much appreciated. Don't think I can sleep with my Mac out of sourest. (I know, that's weird. Isn't it?:) TIA for any help. Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Buying a mac computer
Hi Wendy: I'll leave the descriptions to others here, other than saying the Macbook air has no cd/dvd drive, is lighter, and it's hard drive is a solid-state as opposed to optical. But you might want to take a look at the Apple site. Under the Mac heading, there are good explanations and comparison tools. There is also some helpful information about making the switch from pc to mac, as well as information on accessibility. If you type switching, or accessibility into their search box, you'll likely find some good helpful info. Carolyn On Jun 9, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Wendy Alling wrote: Hello all, I'm new to the list and am seriously considering taking the plunge into the mac world. Can anyone on list give me some recommendations on purchasing a mac? What are the differences in MacBook Pro and MacBook Air? Thanks, Wendy __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6192 (20110609) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Music and iTunes
Hi David: You should simply be able to transfer stuff on your iPod back into the iTunes library. When you connect, you should receive a dialog asking if you want to transfer them or they would otherwise be lost. Just select transfer, and they'll come into the library. As to your other question, I haven't looked at the latest so I'll let someone with a better handle on it answer. Take care Carolyn On Jun 9, 2011, at 1:47 AM, David Hole wrote: Hi folks. I have a few questions wich I hope someone have a good answer to :) - I think we have meen into this first topic before, but maybe there have happened something lately wich I've not discovered... Have anyone found a way to copy music from iPod Touch (3rd generation) into iTunes that works without too much hassle? Will this be possible if I jailbreak my iPod? - Where's the button (in iTunes 10.3) to download already purchased music? I've only found a such button in the purchased-list in the library, but when clicking on that one, I only get the list of apps and books. Hoping for good answers. -Kind regards David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Updating Stream from a Mac
Hi: You can add books to the Victor Reader Stream from the Mac. You just can't use the companion software. Carolyn On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: No. It don't work. the companion don't work on the Mac. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 9, 2011, at 2:34 PM, KliphSharrie wrote: What about conferting and listening to audio notes on the mac, does this part work? I'm guessing not since you didn't mention it. On Jun 9, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Course it works on the Mac. When you connect your Stream to the Mac, it is seen as a drive and files can be moved to and from it just like in that other OS. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 9, 2011, at 11:03 AM, KliphSharrie wrote: So the stream works on the mac? I was under the impression that you could not use it on the mac sie, just the windows side. On Jun 9, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers wrote: Hi Has anyone tried to do this? If so, how does it work? I don't understand what a root is on and SD card, which Humanware keep going on about Thanks Adrienne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: not getting all responses to my email messages
Hi Chris: Just a shot in the dark here: Is it possible you have your email set to thread view, and aren't expanding the threads to view all the messages? Just a thought. Carolyn On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi all, For some reason, when I look at the messages from this list, the VIPhone list, and the ProTools Access list, I am not seeing all of the responses to a topic. I know this because I often see quoted responses below messages I do get that didn't appear on the list. These don't appear to be off list messages. I also had someone respond to one of my questions, , and I never got it. I only saw it in a quoted reply from someone else's response. Any ideas why this might be happening? Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: First time trying to use a flash drive with my Mac
Hi Christine: I don't believe you can copy more than one at a t ime, unless they're in a folder. The other thing to keep in mind is you may need to interact in order to paste. VO should be telling you both when it copies, and when it is pasting, it should say, paste, copying from ... Sometimes it's ust a bit of trial and error tinkering. Carolyn On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: Hi, Esther and others: thanks so much for your responses. I am now able to find the drive, and what I want to do is copy music files to it. However, I cannot figure out how to do this. I selected several files, copied them, then interacted with the empty table for the centon drive. I hit command v -- and got the error sound. This is how I went about things with my PC -- is there some step or nuance I'm missing? Even if someone must contact me off-list, could you walk me through the process, or point me to a podcast or web site that does so? I thought this was going to be one of the simpler things I would be doing . . . (grin). Christine On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:32 AM, Esther wrote: Hi Christine, If this is a USB flash drive or memory stick you should not have to format or otherwise activate it. If this is a new hard drive, depending on the format, you may or may not want, or have to format (or reformat) the drive with Disk Utility. What you decide to do depends on how you plan to use the drive, and whether you need to both read and write to it from different operating systems, or just plan to use it with your Mac, and the issue here is that, without additional software, Windows file systems can't read the default Mac file system file formats. Since, from your subject line, you are using a USB flash drive, I'll add a suggestion to the good recommendations you've had from Zack and Ricardo. If you can't find the drive on your Desktop, and Carolyn's suggestion of looking in Finder on your computer (Command+Shift+C) doesn't work, try the keyboard shortcut in Finder of Command+Shift+G (for Go to Folder). In the text box of the dialog window that appears when you issue this command, type or paste in: /Volumes without the surrounding quotation marks, but with the slash mark at the beginning, and using a capital V for Volumes, then press Return. This should show you all mounted volumes that are attached to your computer in your Finder window. One of them will be Macintosh HD, which is your main hard drive. Another should be the name of your USB flash drive (e.g., Lexar, Crucial, or Untitled), which you can then select. This method (pressing Command+Shift+G and then going to the /Volumes folder in Finder) works for me in the very few instances where an attached drive is mounted on the system, but for some reason the graphical user interface (GUI) doesn't update the information. The Finder view is a little simpler with this command than what is displayed with Command+Shift+C (which, as Carolyn explained, shows the top level of your Computer), because it doesn't include network connections. Remember that you have to exit the files on the attached USB drive before ejecting it. That means that you cannot have any of the files open in another application (e.g., be viewing one of the files on the drive in TextEdit), and you should navigate to the top level of the device in the Finder window (use Command+Up arrow to move up levels). Then you can use Command+E to eject the attached USB flash drive and remove it safely from the USB port on your computer. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 7, 2011, at 16:27, Christine Grassman wrote: I did check that external disks were checked in Finder preferences to show on the desktop, but the only untitled folder there is not the disk. I can't find anything to activate the disk. Is there something else I can try -- is it possible I have to format it or something? It's brand-new. On Jun 7, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Christine, When you insert the drive an icon will appear on the desktop, which you can then open. It might be labeled as Untitled or similar, depending on whether the drive has a volume label or not. You open this with command-o, and then can copy files to it by, for instance, opening a new Finder window with command-n and navigating to where ever you want to copy from. To remove the drive, first eject it with command-e on its icon. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Hi, everyone, I'm really confused right now. I placed a new drive into the USB port and expected some sort of dialog box or alert telling me it was available; I want to copy music files onto it. Nothing, and I can't figure out how to locate it, the way I used to on a PC using my computer. What must I do? (I did try removing it, and I got the alert that it was not removed safely, but it doesn't
Re: [Bulk] transition from pc to mac
Hi Joanne: There are a few different ways you can go when tackling the mac switch. One thing I found really helpful was to look at the switching 101 articles on the Mac. While they don't specifically address voiceover, they clarify some of the similarities and differences between PC and Mac. Secondly, there is the getting started with Voiceover and Snowleopard manual. This is available on line, (But, please excuse me, the exact site escapes me.:) It's a handy tool. On your mac itself, there are several good resources: 1 being the voiceover getting started interactive tutorial, A second is the VO-K combination where you can find out what different keys do with the VO modifier key. A third resource is the VO-H, and VO-HH keystrokes that take you to different levels of commands and how they work. Finally, the Mac has on it both a Mac users guide and a getting started with snowleopard built in. Also, , Handytech USA has a training manual written by Earl Harrison. It goes with a workshop the company offers here in the US. You may find it helpful. HTH Carolyn On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: I'd go here: www.blindcooltech.com and while there, I'd look for all the files called Mac Demo. That's how I got my head around it. Thanks Mike. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 8, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: hi there, i'm Joanne, from Australia whom currently on total transit from PC to Mac. however, i found that the commands and learning the back takes me too long, and i'm not really sure where to start. it sounds stupid i know but, may i ask, is there any tips or ways for me to fast track my learning curves with using voice over? any suggestion is deeply appreciated. many thanks Joanne :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: First time trying to use a flash drive with my Mac
HI christine: There is the option of selecting noncontiguous files, , I've just never understood it well enough to have it work for me. But it involves turning off cursor tracking while selecting Here is the how-to from an earlier post. On May 15, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Rose, ... Incidentally, I came across this because I was checking my Preview Bookmarks menu and, in an old version of the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Leopard, had bookmarked the section on Non-Contiguous Selection. ... I'll paste in what the section on non-contiguous selection said, since it also references the escape key to deselect: begin quote Hello. 1. interact with the list with vo shift m. 2. arrow down to the item you want to start the selection. 3. turn vo curser tracking off with vo f3 and lock your vo keys with vo semi colon. both of these are toggles by the way. 4. Now just arrow down and press cmd space on the items you want to select. when you are done unlock your vo keys with vo semi colon, complete your action and then reenable curser tracking and you should be set to go. to select non-contiguous items: 1. Navigate to the first item. If VO cursors are not following each other, then use VO-cmd-f5 (add FN on a laptop) to bring focus to where VO is. 2. Now turn off cursor tracking by pressing VO-shift-f3 (add the FN on a laptop). 3. Navigate to the next item you wish to select. 4. Press VO-cmd-space. 5. Repeat #3 and #4 until you have all items selected. 6. Press cmd-c to copy or begin dragging or do whatever you wish to do. 7. Turn cursor tracking back on using VO-shift-f3 (add FN on a laptop). don't forget to do #7 as it will frustrate you to no end when cursor tracking is off and you're trying to do things you're used to doing. HTH Carolyn . On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: I can't select a bunch of files from my music folder at a time and copy them to the drive? What a pain! I will try one at a time and sww if that works. I could copy over the whole file, but then I'll have to go through and delete; I'm putting together some music files for my husband's iTunes library, since I was told this is the easiest way to share music files. (We have different iTunes accounts.) Christine On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:22 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Christine: I don't believe you can copy more than one at a t ime, unless they're in a folder. The other thing to keep in mind is you may need to interact in order to paste. VO should be telling you both when it copies, and when it is pasting, it should say, paste, copying from ... Sometimes it's ust a bit of trial and error tinkering. Carolyn On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: Hi, Esther and others: thanks so much for your responses. I am now able to find the drive, and what I want to do is copy music files to it. However, I cannot figure out how to do this. I selected several files, copied them, then interacted with the empty table for the centon drive. I hit command v -- and got the error sound. This is how I went about things with my PC -- is there some step or nuance I'm missing? Even if someone must contact me off-list, could you walk me through the process, or point me to a podcast or web site that does so? I thought this was going to be one of the simpler things I would be doing . . . (grin). Christine On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:32 AM, Esther wrote: Hi Christine, If this is a USB flash drive or memory stick you should not have to format or otherwise activate it. If this is a new hard drive, depending on the format, you may or may not want, or have to format (or reformat) the drive with Disk Utility. What you decide to do depends on how you plan to use the drive, and whether you need to both read and write to it from different operating systems, or just plan to use it with your Mac, and the issue here is that, without additional software, Windows file systems can't read the default Mac file system file formats. Since, from your subject line, you are using a USB flash drive, I'll add a suggestion to the good recommendations you've had from Zack and Ricardo. If you can't find the drive on your Desktop, and Carolyn's suggestion of looking in Finder on your computer (Command+Shift+C) doesn't work, try the keyboard shortcut in Finder of Command+Shift+G (for Go to Folder). In the text box of the dialog window that appears when you issue this command, type or paste in: /Volumes without the surrounding quotation marks, but with the slash mark at the beginning, and using a capital V for Volumes, then press Return. This should show you all mounted volumes that are attached to your computer in your Finder window. One of them will be Macintosh HD, which is your main hard drive. Another should be the name of your USB flash drive (e.g., Lexar, Crucial, or Untitled), which you can then select
Re: selecting a scanner?
Hi: Vuescan was around $40 us last I looked. On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Goldfinga Productions wrote: What is the cost of this vuescan? On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Anne, thanks, just downloaded Vuescan. The setup looks to be straight-forward enough. One question, though. Since I don't have a scanner at the moment. Do you know if Vuescan supports duplex scanning? Thanks, Donna On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Donna, I'm not sure whether all scanners work with the Mac, but it's usually easy to get the information before purchasing. As for OCR on the Mac, I'm currently just using VueScan. If you set it to multipage scanning, you can then set the number of seconds between scans so that you don't have to keep pressing Cmd-N to launch a scan. The quality of the OCR is pretty good and it offers several languages. I can't remember which languages, but I'm sure the usual European languages are included. It also handles columns correctly, so I can scan two pages of a book at a time and have them come out in the right order. Cheers, Anne On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Do I understand correctly that any scanner with a twain driver will work on the Mac? If that's not correct, what do I need to pay attention to when selecting a scanner? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. GF Check me out on twitter http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: selecting a scanner?
Hi: There is also a list of supported scanners on the vuescan site. On Jun 7, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Donna, I don't know the answer to your question, but Ed Hamrick is usually happy to answer questions. Just look for the contact details on the Hamrick site. Cheers, Anne On Jun 7, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Anne, thanks, just downloaded Vuescan. The setup looks to be straight-forward enough. One question, though. Since I don't have a scanner at the moment. Do you know if Vuescan supports duplex scanning? Thanks, Donna On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Donna, I'm not sure whether all scanners work with the Mac, but it's usually easy to get the information before purchasing. As for OCR on the Mac, I'm currently just using VueScan. If you set it to multipage scanning, you can then set the number of seconds between scans so that you don't have to keep pressing Cmd-N to launch a scan. The quality of the OCR is pretty good and it offers several languages. I can't remember which languages, but I'm sure the usual European languages are included. It also handles columns correctly, so I can scan two pages of a book at a time and have them come out in the right order. Cheers, Anne On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Do I understand correctly that any scanner with a twain driver will work on the Mac? If that's not correct, what do I need to pay attention to when selecting a scanner? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes In the Cloud
Gee, that's not what I understood from the presentation. I'm confused by what you're saying here. I read everything yesterday, and nowhere did it mention iSync. On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Shen wrote: Hi, Cloud is not an accurate term. It's iSync. There is no cloud in iTunes. It is a mechanism for you to sync your content across all your devices. There's no need to sign up if you already have an iTunes account. The confusing part here is that there is no cloud. On 6/7/11, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, guys. I just downloaded ITunes 10.3 under the assumption that I could try the ICloud. I do notice a menu item labeled cloud in the app store menus. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether the match service is available yet. I can't seem to find it. Also, I don't find anywhere to sign up, unless that's unnecessary. TiA, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes In the Cloud
Thanks Zak: I just never heard anyone talk about isync yesterday, and there's been so much speculation that I'm not sure what to believe anymore. Anyhow thank you. Carolyn On Jun 7, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Carolyn, iSync was his term for what is happening, I believe. Confusingly, iSync is also an unrelated Apple program on OS X. Even more confusingly, Apple calls the service iCloud, or iTunes in the Cloud, leading to some mistaken impressions. Best, Zack. On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Gee, that's not what I understood from the presentation. I'm confused by what you're saying here. I read everything yesterday, and nowhere did it mention iSync. On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Shen wrote: Hi, Cloud is not an accurate term. It's iSync. There is no cloud in iTunes. It is a mechanism for you to sync your content across all your devices. There's no need to sign up if you already have an iTunes account. The confusing part here is that there is no cloud. On 6/7/11, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, guys. I just downloaded ITunes 10.3 under the assumption that I could try the ICloud. I do notice a menu item labeled cloud in the app store menus. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether the match service is available yet. I can't seem to find it. Also, I don't find anywhere to sign up, unless that's unnecessary. TiA, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: adding recipient to address book
Hi Ron: I believe the only way to do this is to VO-shift-M on that address, copy it and create a card in address book. Perhaps someone will correct me with a better way.:) Take care On Jun 7, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote: Hi, How does one add a recipient, not the sender, in a mail to the address book? In the Journey, Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes In the Cloud
Hi: Thanks for clarifying. This all sounds so futuristic and a bit scary to me. Ok, so now y'all know I'm an old spirit of a girl.:) Carolyn On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Shen wrote: Sorry for the confusion. Yes, I used the term iSync because the way iTunes downloads your contents across all your devices, and not store them in a remote server, is more like a sync process than cloud. I actually got the iSync term from a tech podcast I was listening to yesterday. Don't strain yourself trying to understand this. Remember, iOS 5 is not going to be available till at least September. Lots of things can change between now and then. You can still sync your iTunes media to 10 devices. Let the so-called cloud enter your world when it is actually available. On 6/7/11, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: You do get some storage capacity through apple; at least five gigs, as far as I understand. However, like Amazon, the music you purchase on ITunes doesn't count toward your limit. Where my real confusion came in was not being able to find the Match service. Apparently, all of this ICloud-related stuff is beta, so you have to go to a separate part of the Apple site for it. Teresa On Jun 7, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Carolyn, iSync was his term for what is happening, I believe. Confusingly, iSync is also an unrelated Apple program on OS X. Even more confusingly, Apple calls the service iCloud, or iTunes in the Cloud, leading to some mistaken impressions. Best, Zack. On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Gee, that's not what I understood from the presentation. I'm confused by what you're saying here. I read everything yesterday, and nowhere did it mention iSync. On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Shen wrote: Hi, Cloud is not an accurate term. It's iSync. There is no cloud in iTunes. It is a mechanism for you to sync your content across all your devices. There's no need to sign up if you already have an iTunes account. The confusing part here is that there is no cloud. On 6/7/11, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, guys. I just downloaded ITunes 10.3 under the assumption that I could try the ICloud. I do notice a menu item labeled cloud in the app store menus. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether the match service is available yet. I can't seem to find it. Also, I don't find anywhere to sign up, unless that's unnecessary. TiA, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
Re: Openning a file before my job interview on Monday
Christopher: You asked about a simple database program. That's why Bento was suggested. On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Maybe I was mistaking but by the looks of this thread, I thought it was set that Bento was a program Apple suggested for doing PowerPoint stuff. As for how I know it didn't have the other features, the company who is interviewing me, verified that the rep over the phone I spoke with was mistaking on it having them. Chris. - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:41 PM Subject: Re: Openning a file before my job interview on Monday Hi Chris, Umm, how will Bento, a database app, help you with powerpoint presentations? I'm glad to know your particular presentation worked well. I hate to be the devil's advocate here, but are you sure there were none of those advanced features in the presentation? If Keynote wasn't able to handle them, it might not have mentioned them. Best, Zack. On Jun 7, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Huh! I'll have to look into that. For what it's worth, Keynote did the trick, but, if I'm gonna get more into power point down the road, which at this point, I'm unsure, I'll certainly consider looking at this app you mention. Chris. - Original Message - From: Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:08 PM Subject: Re: Openning a file before my job interview on Monday Seems Bento is the one Apple pushes. I've never gotten a chance to play with it though. I've seen screenshots, and it looks really user friendly. You might could get a demo of it in an Apple Store. On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Actually, I'm impressed! Keynote did beautifully! with the file. It took me a bit to get the hang of how to navigate the application, but once I got the hang of it, it was quite a breeze. Now, having said that, for one, the lady was mistaking. there was no transitioning nor audio/video, so I have no idea how Keynote would a handled that with VO. Speaking of Keynote, by the way, as longas where on that subject, I thought Keynote was a database program, not a presentation app. so, what then do you all recommend for a good database app that isn't real powerful. I don't want an MS Accewss for the Mac, if you will. I just need something real down dirty sweet and simple/non powerful. Just something for incredibly basic functionality. Chris. - Original Message - From: Pierre Heim pie...@familie-heim.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Openning a file before my job interview on Monday Hi Chris, you can try the PowerPoint Viewer if you have a Windows installation. It is free and can be downloaded from the MS website. Keynote works also but has the compatibility problem as Zack has already mentioned. I think there's the same problem with Open Office/Libre Office. Greetings, Pierre Am 07.06.2011 um 03:52 schrieb Zachary Kline: Hi Chris, I do believe Keynote will open .ppt files. Whether its support is good enough to handle all the advanced features your slideshow apparently has I don't know. This is yet another example of the assumption most businesses seem to still have that Microsoft software in one form or another is close at hand. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Guys, I do not own Microsoft Office for Windows, and as you all know, it's not accessible on the Mac. I have a job interview this Monday, however one of the requirements prior to the interview is to review a power point presentation. I definitely have the file on my drive, and admittedly, haven't tried openning it, but it's just a standard .ppt file. I've been told however that it's not exactly a simple little slide show, it has auto slide transitioning, background audio naration, basically the whole 9 yards. They did say as a very last resort, they could have someone go through the presentation with me in person before or during my interview, but it's way more prefered that I view it ahead of time. I do have the latest version of IWorks, but to the best of my understanding nothing'll open a power point file that is including in that bundle of apps. So, I have been told Preview will open it within some reason. So, what's the best thing you all recommend, and can you all give me a little hand, how to navigate through this? Yes the file is copy written, but it's freely available for absolutely anyone, whehter applying or not to freely at will download and view. So I'd be happy off list thus fore, to send this file to anyone who would like it to see if they can get it to work to then better assist me with
Re: First time trying to use a flash drive with my Mac
Hi Christine: A couple of ideas come to mind here and I'll share them for what they may be worth.:) Press Command-shift-c to get to your computer. You may be able to just vo arrow down, or you may need to interact first. But you should find something like Christine's Hd, Network, and the name of your usb drive. Open that volume like an app, and you should be good to go. If for some reason that doesn't show it, go into disk utility, and look what disks show up. I once had to mount an SD card. Which, isn't as weird or complicated as it sounds. You shouldn't have to do anything to the usb drive for it to work, though depending on what kind of files are there, some may not work HTH Carolyn. On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I did check that external disks were checked in Finder preferences to show on the desktop, but the only untitled folder there is not the disk. I can't find anything to activate the disk. Is there something else I can try -- is it possible I have to format it or something? It's brand-new. On Jun 7, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Christine, When you insert the drive an icon will appear on the desktop, which you can then open. It might be labeled as Untitled or similar, depending on whether the drive has a volume label or not. You open this with command-o, and then can copy files to it by, for instance, opening a new Finder window with command-n and navigating to where ever you want to copy from. To remove the drive, first eject it with command-e on its icon. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Hi, everyone, I'm really confused right now. I placed a new drive into the USB port and expected some sort of dialog box or alert telling me it was available; I want to copy music files onto it. Nothing, and I can't figure out how to locate it, the way I used to on a PC using my computer. What must I do? (I did try removing it, and I got the alert that it was not removed safely, but it doesn't seem to notice when I insert it.) Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about macbook trackpad
Hello Chris: Regardless of which Mac system you're working on, the trackpad anomalies can occur. Most of the time, I use the keyboard, and keep the track pad commander turned off. Then if I need it, I employ it and turn it back off before doing any major writing again. I've never, on the other hand done accidental mouse-clicks. HTH Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, lets get the essentials outta the way first. We're dealing with a white parlicarbon stocked mid 2010 macbook running 10.6.7 Snowleopard, 2gb ram, 13 inch display, 250GB hard disk, etc. It's totally stocked, no customizations. Absolutely none. OK, so now that you know what system precisely we're working with here, on to my two questions: 1. Have you all noticed that when trackpad commander is on, it's a lot easier than you'd think when typing for your wrists to accidentally bump the trackpad, causing a flick or some sort of unwanted jesture on the thing, making your focus go haywire? 2. We've been on list discussing piano pub and one person just wrote and said about routing the mouse pointer if it doesn't already follow, then literally speaking with trackpad commander off, literally clicking the actual trackpad. This leads me to a question. If you do this, not just in that context with that application, but I mean more in complete general regardless what app you're in, how do you keep from your finger moving as you drop it on the pad ever so so slightly, causing you to get just enough offset where if you click nothing'll happen? How do you prevent that aside the obvious of practice? Are their any sort of ish good techniques for dropping your finger that can help a bit with that? Thanks. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Hi Erik: Well, I couldn't resist a bit of folly. Just tell them the controls are within a pinky-promise! A-Q-Z all in the pinky. With the shift to clinch the promise. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:01 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, It sounds like you could get by without braille support since you don't need it to drive the application as some of my clients would. As soon as you save your scanned document as a text file your access is complete for your purposes. I'm happy enough with this arrangement myself but for some of my clients it's no option. Keysrokes, OK, to start reading press the letter E. To speed up the voice on the fly press shift Q. To slow down the speech on the fly press shift Z. I just can't find a good cognitive way to teach this to my clients. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 10:36 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Erik, thanks for giving such a detailed response. could you say more about a couple of the things you mentioned? I've been doing a lot of thinking re what I want in terms of braille. One thought that has occurred to me is that I can translate a txt file into brf format on my BSP, so perhaps having the ability to translate it on the Mac is less important. I still have a PC with Duxbury on it, for those rare occasions when I actually need to print out a hard copy in braille. with this in mind, does your assessment of the braille support change at all? Second, what do you mean by terrible keystrokes? Could you give a couple of examples? thanks again, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Abisee?
Hi Donna: I don't have Abbyy, and messed up my rial period of it. But, people have had good luck pairing it with iPhoto or vuescan. Vuescan works with more scanners, but I never got really comfortable with it's setup. I'll be interested to see what works well for you. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi, thanks for sharing your thoughts. This is really the only area where I have to say that the Mac is truly lacking. I'm also thinking about giving ABBYY Fine Reader a shot, but it sounds like it's awfully fiddly. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote: Hello Donna, I am a user of DocuScanPlus and I have also used EyePal for Mac with varying amounts of success. Unfortunately, I can't say that I enjoy using either solution since they both have tremendous drawbacks. Although DocuScanPlus has some nice features, it requires an internet connection to really be usable. EyePal for Mac isn't really a Mac application and doesn't behave like one. Although it does a good job of processing print text, the UI seemsreally clunky and inefficient since ABISee is using Wine to create a Windows like environment to run the application. Overall, I've found the EyePal application to be more of a memory hog and less stable than what I would expect from such a high priced solution. Just my thoughts On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address
Hi Donna: I didn't get there in time. But if you go to Mac Rumors, there's some great coverage of what's being shown. Someone's an awesome notetaker.:) Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Is anyone able to listen to this? I can't get it to play either on my Mac or my PC. Donna Begin forwarded message: From: Maccessibility nore...@maccessibility.net Date: June 6, 2011 12:33:39 PM EDT To: nore...@maccessibility.net Subject: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address At 10:00 AM PDT, Apple wil be holding its World Wide Developers Conference Keynote address. Hosted by Steve Jobs, Apple will be pulling the wraps off of iOS 5, Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, and its new iCloud service. You can listen to the Mac-cessibility Round Table Knights as the news unfolds at this link. [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/06/06/mac-cessibility-live-coverage-of-wwdc-keynote-address/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
I believe I heard it was only going to be available through the Mac App store, and one would have to burn their own backup cd. Either that, or given your Apple Id and password, iCloud could do the reinstall. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iBooks, iCloud and the Mac
Howard: Don't know about reading on the mac. If the files ae in pub format, and even if they're PDF, at least currently, they can't be read. ICloud is just the storage device. They wold have to make some major changes in iTunes to be able to erad them on the mac. imho Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Howard Dupuis wrote: Am I understanding correctly that we'll soon be able to read iBooks on the Mac? If iCloud is going to be synching all devices, then a book I purchase on my iPod Touch would be available on my Mac, too, no? I'm hoping so. Thanks. -- Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hi George: I've gotten it paired now, first with the Mac, and also with the iPhone. Sometimes, it seems like hit or miss. It took my iPhone 3GS several tries before it found the Braillino, and a few more for me to get the timing quick enough to enter the pairing code.:) The really nice thing is not having to install a bunch of software on a mac to get it going. Looking at the manual, gave me a bit of a scare.:) Carolyn On Jun 5, 2011, at 1:48 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: The EuroBraille eSYS40 did not work using bluetooth for me, I have it connected via usb. I have a Braillino which I must try via bluetooth, I know it works using cable. On another side, the only braille table available in macos is US, are there any other braille tables and where can one get them and where to put them? Thanks. Original message: No software should need to be installed. Open the voiceover utility, and choose the braille category. Choose add to add the bluetooth display. On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hi Anne and George: If I understand this correctly, you can also mute speech with cord-M. Carolyn On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Georges, To mute the VoiceOver speech, you can either check the check box in VoiceOver Utility, Speech, or set a short cut on your Braille display. The Mute command is in the Audio menu. The Braille display is tied to the VO cursor, so you can't have it working separately from VO. You can, however, turn cursor tracking off, in which case, the mouse and the insertion point will be somewhere else. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 19:48, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Let me first ask how do I mute voiceover and unmute it again? I will explain what I meant hopefully, I want to read the screen with my braille display without muting voiceover and I don't want my braille display to move the voiceover cursor with it, but say I stand on a button I want to be able to activate that button with cursor routing got me now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
braille display Assistance requested
Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hi Anne: I don't see a bluetooth extension that looks like a usb drive. There's a usb thingie that looks like a serial to usb interface cable. But I have a disk that says bluetooth, and a braille slip with the code on it. So, I'll head for preferences and see how far I get. Thanks for the heads up. Carolyn On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Carolyn, What a coincidence! I got my Braillino yesterday. There is nothing to install on the Mac. The Braillino only works with BlueTooth on the Mac as it has no USB connector, just a serial port. To pair your Braillino, you have to go into the BlueTooth pane of System Preferences, and follow the instructions to pair it there. You should have a 5 figure code provided with your Braillino, and this is the code to enter on the Mac when it is asked for. It should be with the BlueTooth extension that looks like a USB drive. Cheers, Anne On 4 Jun 2011, at 19:38, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Fwd: braille display Assistance requested
Hi Anne: Ok, found that adapter. Do I need that anywhere, also my braillino isn't seeing the mac, or at least, it's not responding t a pairing attempt. Also, my iPhone isn't even seeing it.Any further help much appreciated. ? Guess I'm back to the silly on disk manual. But, thank you again. Carolyn On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:10 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Anne: I don't see a bluetooth extension that looks like a usb drive. There's a usb thingie that looks like a serial to usb interface cable. But I have a disk that says bluetooth, and a braille slip with the code on it. So, I'll head for preferences and see how far I get. Thanks for the heads up. Carolyn On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Carolyn, What a coincidence! I got my Braillino yesterday. There is nothing to install on the Mac. The Braillino only works with BlueTooth on the Mac as it has no USB connector, just a serial port. To pair your Braillino, you have to go into the BlueTooth pane of System Preferences, and follow the instructions to pair it there. You should have a 5 figure code provided with your Braillino, and this is the code to enter on the Mac when it is asked for. It should be with the BlueTooth extension that looks like a USB drive. Cheers, Anne On 4 Jun 2011, at 19:38, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
