RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite right when I was running Lion, so for now at least, I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the over-heating now? If not, I can mention it to them; have an appointment to talk to a rep in a couple of hours regarding my midi playback issue. I'll be booting from my external drive that has Lion on it, but will wait til the last minute prior to the call to do so. I don't want my computer to be toasted. (smile) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution The thing is that Spotlight, yes, can be easily disabled. If you follow all my steps up until I start going into Terminal, in theory, that should! work, but the reason I did the terminal work is just to absolutely beyond a doubt be certained that it wouldn't try pulling anything stupid in the background unknowingly, as frankly, I dono about you Missy, but, I don't like surprises, nor over-heated logicboards, as they don't taste too good when cooked for dinner. LOL! Take care. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:15 AM Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight the safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way over my little head, that's for sure! I have no doubt that they'd work, but as I read them, all I could think was: Or... Go back to SL until Lion is fised. If spotlight can be disabled simply and safely in sl too, though, I'd love instructions on that. Might that be something you'd cover in an up-coming podcast? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If cocktail works with lion, I will use it to disable spot light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep everything on my computer, so I have no need for spotlight, those resources are better used for other things. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed running very very hot; but, today, not so. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite right when I was running Lion, so for now at least, I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the over-heating now? If not, I can mention it to them; have an appointment to talk to a rep in a couple of hours regarding my midi playback issue. I'll be booting from my external drive that has Lion on it, but will wait til the last minute prior to the call to do so. I don't want my computer to be toasted. (smile) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution The thing is that Spotlight, yes, can be easily disabled. If you follow all my steps up until I start going into Terminal, in theory, that should! work, but the reason I did the terminal work is just to absolutely beyond a doubt be certained that it wouldn't try pulling anything stupid in the background unknowingly, as frankly, I dono about you Missy, but, I don't like surprises, nor over-heated logicboards, as they don't taste too good when cooked for dinner. LOL! Take care. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:15 AM Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight the safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way over my little head, that's for sure! I have no doubt that they'd work, but as I read them, all I could think was: Or... Go back to SL until Lion is fised. If spotlight can be disabled simply and safely in sl too, though, I'd love instructions on that. Might that be something you'd cover in an up-coming podcast? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If cocktail works with lion, I will use it to disable spot light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep everything on my computer, so I have no need for spotlight, those resources are better used for other things. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but I'm gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open. Chris. On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed running very very hot; but, today, not so. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite right when I was running Lion, so for now at least, I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the over-heating now? If not, I can mention it to them; have an appointment to talk to a rep in a couple of hours regarding my midi playback issue. I'll be booting from my external drive that has Lion on it, but will wait til the last minute prior to the call to do so. I don't want my computer to be toasted. (smile) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution The thing is that Spotlight, yes, can be easily disabled. If you follow all my steps up until I start going into Terminal, in theory, that should! work, but the reason I did the terminal work is just to absolutely beyond a doubt be certained that it wouldn't try pulling anything stupid in the background unknowingly, as frankly, I dono about you Missy, but, I don't like surprises, nor over-heated logicboards, as they don't taste too good when cooked for dinner. LOL! Take care. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:15 AM Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight the safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way over my little head, that's for sure! I have no doubt that they'd work, but as I read them, all I could think was: Or... Go back to SL until Lion is fised. If spotlight can be disabled simply and safely in sl too, though, I'd love instructions on that. Might that be something you'd cover in an up-coming podcast? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If cocktail works with lion, I will use it to disable spot light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep everything on my computer, so I have no need for spotlight, those resources are better used for other things. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Nope. I have a mid 2010 mbp too, and it urns hot from time to time. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:41 AM, James Malone wrote: Wow, I'm honestly amazed so many of you are having this problem. Is it only on the really new models? Mine is the mid 2010 one, and its fine. MBP by the way. On 7/27/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but I'm gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open. Chris. On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed running very very hot; but, today, not so. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite right when I was running Lion, so for now at least, I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the over-heating now? If not, I can mention it to them; have an appointment to talk to a rep in a couple of hours regarding my midi playback issue. I'll be booting from my external drive that has Lion on it, but will wait til the last minute prior to the call to do so. I don't want my computer to be toasted. (smile) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution The thing is that Spotlight, yes, can be easily disabled. If you follow all my steps up until I start going into Terminal, in theory, that should! work, but the reason I did the terminal work is just to absolutely beyond a doubt be certained that it wouldn't try pulling anything stupid in the background unknowingly, as frankly, I dono about you Missy, but, I don't like surprises, nor over-heated logicboards, as they don't taste too good when cooked for dinner. LOL! Take care. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:15 AM Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight the safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way over my little head, that's for sure! I have no doubt that they'd work, but as I read them, all I could think was: Or... Go back to SL until Lion is fised. If spotlight can be disabled simply and safely in sl too, though, I'd love instructions on that. Might that be something you'd cover in an up-coming podcast? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If cocktail works with lion, I will use it to disable spot light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep everything on my computer, so I have no need for spotlight, those resources are better used for other things. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Hi, I have a mid 2010 standard macbook (not pro), and it's running just fine here. Courtney On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Nope. I have a mid 2010 mbp too, and it urns hot from time to time. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:41 AM, James Malone wrote: Wow, I'm honestly amazed so many of you are having this problem. Is it only on the really new models? Mine is the mid 2010 one, and its fine. MBP by the way. On 7/27/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but I'm gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open. Chris. On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed running very very hot; but, today, not so. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite right when I was running Lion, so for now at least, I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the over-heating now? If not, I can mention it to them; have an appointment to talk to a rep in a couple of hours regarding my midi playback issue. I'll be booting from my external drive that has Lion on it, but will wait til the last minute prior to the call to do so. I don't want my computer to be toasted. (smile) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution The thing is that Spotlight, yes, can be easily disabled. If you follow all my steps up until I start going into Terminal, in theory, that should! work, but the reason I did the terminal work is just to absolutely beyond a doubt be certained that it wouldn't try pulling anything stupid in the background unknowingly, as frankly, I dono about you Missy, but, I don't like surprises, nor over-heated logicboards, as they don't taste too good when cooked for dinner. LOL! Take care. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:15 AM Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight the safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way over my little head, that's for sure! I have no doubt that they'd work, but as I read them, all I could think was: Or... Go back to SL until Lion is fised. If spotlight can be disabled simply and safely in sl too, though, I'd love instructions on that. Might that be something you'd cover in an up-coming podcast? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If cocktail works with lion, I will use it to disable spot light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep everything on my computer, so I have no need for spotlight, those resources are better used for other things. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Odd! You and I have the same system basically, except that your's is a Pro, where mine isn['t, but m ine's also Mid 2010. Dule core Intel 2.4GHZ, 2GB Ram, 250GB hard Drive, Lion OSX 10.7, 13 inch display. I can get my SMC Firmware version number, if you'd like me to, but I know, after referencing it on the Apple web site, that it is the newest, and when I tried to reinstall it from the dmg that I downloaded, as advised by a Senior advisor, the checksum on the version I had installed and on the DMG I downloaded matched to a T. So... yeah... I definitely think that the MDS Daemon has a lot to do with this, perhaps that isn't the only thing, but again, I staned before god, regardless what Carolyn, and others think, to say, for me, doing the things that I outlined last night, has now made my core 1 and 2, According to the app called Temperature Monitor, (Which is freeware by the way,) go dow3n to half, approx. where they were. Before, it was running with core 1 and 2, each individually at about 85C, with the fans running about 2000RPM, and my graffics chip when screen was at 0 percent brightness+screen curtain enabled, at about 90C. Now half all those figures or roughly. When I called Apple, they really didn't seem to care, or take the fact seriously that I almost burnt myself the other night when trying to move the system from my desk to my couch, and believe me, I have fairly tough skin. I don't burn easy. So, yeah, I don't know the deal, but it seems very odd that it was so hot that this happened, and that I've found tons of people having this issue. Just go to google, and search for macbook+lion+running hot I promise you'll find multiple results which reference this issue. The fact that Apple didn't take me seriously, and seems to think that 200F for a CPU is normal, and that over-heating would be around 450F...? Uh huhhum? Yeah, that would be overheating if it was a bottle rocket, but multen if it's metel, as it is. Needless to say, I question that advisor's credibility. If anyone wants to benchmark their system, as I said, just google for an app called Temperature Monitor. the app store might even have it. I didn't look there. I found it just by Googling, so, sorry, no longer have the U R L. If you all have issues finding it though, let me know and I'll try to dig it out of my history. Chris. - Original Message - From: James Malone james.9...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Wow, I'm honestly amazed so many of you are having this problem. Is it only on the really new models? Mine is the mid 2010 one, and its fine. MBP by the way. On 7/27/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but I'm gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open. Chris. On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed running very very hot; but, today, not so. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite right when I was running Lion, so for now at least, I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the over-heating now? If not, I can mention it to them; have an appointment to talk to a rep in a couple of hours regarding my midi playback issue. I'll be booting from my external drive that has Lion on it, but will wait til the last minute prior to the call to do so. I don't want my computer to be toasted. (smile) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution The thing is that Spotlight, yes, can be easily disabled. If you follow all my steps up until I start going into Terminal, in theory, that should! work, but the reason I did the terminal work is just to absolutely beyond a doubt be certained that it wouldn't try pulling anything stupid in the background unknowingly, as frankly, I dono about you Missy, but, I don't like surprises, nor over-heated logicboards, as they don't taste too good when cooked for dinner. LOL! Take care. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:15 AM Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight the safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way over
RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
I ran temperature monitor while I still had lion installed, and I'm not sure I was reading it's output correctly because it's not an app I'm familiar with, but assuming I did read it correctly, my temperatures were around 104F, which seemed awfully hot to me. I reported the overheating issue again today when I spoke to the Apple rep who is helping me with my midi issues. He said he completely understands going back to SL until this issue gets fixed, and he said he'd report that it has been determined that spotlight has quite a lot to do with this. Personally, I'd be perfectly happy never to run spotlight at all. I know where I put my files, so if it’s a resource that can be disabled safely, then that's what I'd prefer to do. I'm still going to wait on an update or two to lion before I make it my primary OS again, just because I really don't want to take any chances on inadvertently frying my brand new macbook pro. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Odd! You and I have the same system basically, except that your's is a Pro, where mine isn['t, but m ine's also Mid 2010. Dule core Intel 2.4GHZ, 2GB Ram, 250GB hard Drive, Lion OSX 10.7, 13 inch display. I can get my SMC Firmware version number, if you'd like me to, but I know, after referencing it on the Apple web site, that it is the newest, and when I tried to reinstall it from the dmg that I downloaded, as advised by a Senior advisor, the checksum on the version I had installed and on the DMG I downloaded matched to a T. So... yeah... I definitely think that the MDS Daemon has a lot to do with this, perhaps that isn't the only thing, but again, I staned before god, regardless what Carolyn, and others think, to say, for me, doing the things that I outlined last night, has now made my core 1 and 2, According to the app called Temperature Monitor, (Which is freeware by the way,) go dow3n to half, approx. where they were. Before, it was running with core 1 and 2, each individually at about 85C, with the fans running about 2000RPM, and my graffics chip when screen was at 0 percent brightness+screen curtain enabled, at about 90C. Now half all those figures or roughly. When I called Apple, they really didn't seem to care, or take the fact seriously that I almost burnt myself the other night when trying to move the system from my desk to my couch, and believe me, I have fairly tough skin. I don't burn easy. So, yeah, I don't know the deal, but it seems very odd that it was so hot that this happened, and that I've found tons of people having this issue. Just go to google, and search for macbook+lion+running hot I promise you'll find multiple results which reference this issue. The fact that Apple didn't take me seriously, and seems to think that 200F for a CPU is normal, and that over-heating would be around 450F...? Uh huhhum? Yeah, that would be overheating if it was a bottle rocket, but multen if it's metel, as it is. Needless to say, I question that advisor's credibility. If anyone wants to benchmark their system, as I said, just google for an app called Temperature Monitor. the app store might even have it. I didn't look there. I found it just by Googling, so, sorry, no longer have the U R L. If you all have issues finding it though, let me know and I'll try to dig it out of my history. Chris. - Original Message - From: James Malone james.9...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Wow, I'm honestly amazed so many of you are having this problem. Is it only on the really new models? Mine is the mid 2010 one, and its fine. MBP by the way. On 7/27/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but I'm gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open. Chris. On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed running very very hot; but, today, not so. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite right when I was running Lion, so for now at least, I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the over-heating now? If not, I can mention it to them; have an appointment to talk to a rep in a couple of hours regarding my midi playback issue. I'll be booting from my external drive that has Lion on it, but will wait til the last minute
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Where do you find temperature monitor? In the Journey, Ron On Jul 27, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I ran temperature monitor while I still had lion installed, and I'm not sure I was reading it's output correctly because it's not an app I'm familiar with, but assuming I did read it correctly, my temperatures were around 104F, which seemed awfully hot to me. I reported the overheating issue again today when I spoke to the Apple rep who is helping me with my midi issues. He said he completely understands going back to SL until this issue gets fixed, and he said he'd report that it has been determined that spotlight has quite a lot to do with this. Personally, I'd be perfectly happy never to run spotlight at all. I know where I put my files, so if it’s a resource that can be disabled safely, then that's what I'd prefer to do. I'm still going to wait on an update or two to lion before I make it my primary OS again, just because I really don't want to take any chances on inadvertently frying my brand new macbook pro. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Odd! You and I have the same system basically, except that your's is a Pro, where mine isn['t, but m ine's also Mid 2010. Dule core Intel 2.4GHZ, 2GB Ram, 250GB hard Drive, Lion OSX 10.7, 13 inch display. I can get my SMC Firmware version number, if you'd like me to, but I know, after referencing it on the Apple web site, that it is the newest, and when I tried to reinstall it from the dmg that I downloaded, as advised by a Senior advisor, the checksum on the version I had installed and on the DMG I downloaded matched to a T. So... yeah... I definitely think that the MDS Daemon has a lot to do with this, perhaps that isn't the only thing, but again, I staned before god, regardless what Carolyn, and others think, to say, for me, doing the things that I outlined last night, has now made my core 1 and 2, According to the app called Temperature Monitor, (Which is freeware by the way,) go dow3n to half, approx. where they were. Before, it was running with core 1 and 2, each individually at about 85C, with the fans running about 2000RPM, and my graffics chip when screen was at 0 percent brightness+screen curtain enabled, at about 90C. Now half all those figures or roughly. When I called Apple, they really didn't seem to care, or take the fact seriously that I almost burnt myself the other night when trying to move the system from my desk to my couch, and believe me, I have fairly tough skin. I don't burn easy. So, yeah, I don't know the deal, but it seems very odd that it was so hot that this happened, and that I've found tons of people having this issue. Just go to google, and search for macbook+lion+running hot I promise you'll find multiple results which reference this issue. The fact that Apple didn't take me seriously, and seems to think that 200F for a CPU is normal, and that over-heating would be around 450F...? Uh huhhum? Yeah, that would be overheating if it was a bottle rocket, but multen if it's metel, as it is. Needless to say, I question that advisor's credibility. If anyone wants to benchmark their system, as I said, just google for an app called Temperature Monitor. the app store might even have it. I didn't look there. I found it just by Googling, so, sorry, no longer have the U R L. If you all have issues finding it though, let me know and I'll try to dig it out of my history. Chris. - Original Message - From: James Malone james.9...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Wow, I'm honestly amazed so many of you are having this problem. Is it only on the really new models? Mine is the mid 2010 one, and its fine. MBP by the way. On 7/27/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but I'm gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open. Chris. On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed running very very hot; but, today, not so. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite right when I was running Lion, so for now at least, I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the over-heating now? If not, I can mention
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Actually, 104 isn't that bad. What is bad is about 240F where my was at it's highest peek. Granted, that's more than 85C that I quoted initially, but it only spiked to this level for maybe 5 minutes, but still, it was enough to make me r'r'really! freaked. If you're only at 1o4, then you're actually not doing the worst in the world. Believe me, I've seen way worse! Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I ran temperature monitor while I still had lion installed, and I'm not sure I was reading it's output correctly because it's not an app I'm familiar with, but assuming I did read it correctly, my temperatures were around 104F, which seemed awfully hot to me. I reported the overheating issue again today when I spoke to the Apple rep who is helping me with my midi issues. He said he completely understands going back to SL until this issue gets fixed, and he said he'd report that it has been determined that spotlight has quite a lot to do with this. Personally, I'd be perfectly happy never to run spotlight at all. I know where I put my files, so if it’s a resource that can be disabled safely, then that's what I'd prefer to do. I'm still going to wait on an update or two to lion before I make it my primary OS again, just because I really don't want to take any chances on inadvertently frying my brand new macbook pro. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Odd! You and I have the same system basically, except that your's is a Pro, where mine isn['t, but m ine's also Mid 2010. Dule core Intel 2.4GHZ, 2GB Ram, 250GB hard Drive, Lion OSX 10.7, 13 inch display. I can get my SMC Firmware version number, if you'd like me to, but I know, after referencing it on the Apple web site, that it is the newest, and when I tried to reinstall it from the dmg that I downloaded, as advised by a Senior advisor, the checksum on the version I had installed and on the DMG I downloaded matched to a T. So... yeah... I definitely think that the MDS Daemon has a lot to do with this, perhaps that isn't the only thing, but again, I staned before god, regardless what Carolyn, and others think, to say, for me, doing the things that I outlined last night, has now made my core 1 and 2, According to the app called Temperature Monitor, (Which is freeware by the way,) go dow3n to half, approx. where they were. Before, it was running with core 1 and 2, each individually at about 85C, with the fans running about 2000RPM, and my graffics chip when screen was at 0 percent brightness+screen curtain enabled, at about 90C. Now half all those figures or roughly. When I called Apple, they really didn't seem to care, or take the fact seriously that I almost burnt myself the other night when trying to move the system from my desk to my couch, and believe me, I have fairly tough skin. I don't burn easy. So, yeah, I don't know the deal, but it seems very odd that it was so hot that this happened, and that I've found tons of people having this issue. Just go to google, and search for macbook+lion+running hot I promise you'll find multiple results which reference this issue. The fact that Apple didn't take me seriously, and seems to think that 200F for a CPU is normal, and that over-heating would be around 450F...? Uh huhhum? Yeah, that would be overheating if it was a bottle rocket, but multen if it's metel, as it is. Needless to say, I question that advisor's credibility. If anyone wants to benchmark their system, as I said, just google for an app called Temperature Monitor. the app store might even have it. I didn't look there. I found it just by Googling, so, sorry, no longer have the U R L. If you all have issues finding it though, let me know and I'll try to dig it out of my history. Chris. - Original Message - From: James Malone james.9...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Wow, I'm honestly amazed so many of you are having this problem. Is it only on the really new models? Mine is the mid 2010 one, and its fine. MBP by the way. On 7/27/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but I'm gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open. Chris. On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed running very very hot; but, today, not so. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
The web site is found at: http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html and the direct download is at: http://www.bresink.com/osx/0TemperatureMonitor/download.php5 Look on that page for the download button, and vo+Space on it. Good luck. Chris. - Original Message - From: Ronald McEwan ron.mce...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:15 AM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Where do you find temperature monitor? In the Journey, Ron On Jul 27, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I ran temperature monitor while I still had lion installed, and I'm not sure I was reading it's output correctly because it's not an app I'm familiar with, but assuming I did read it correctly, my temperatures were around 104F, which seemed awfully hot to me. I reported the overheating issue again today when I spoke to the Apple rep who is helping me with my midi issues. He said he completely understands going back to SL until this issue gets fixed, and he said he'd report that it has been determined that spotlight has quite a lot to do with this. Personally, I'd be perfectly happy never to run spotlight at all. I know where I put my files, so if it’s a resource that can be disabled safely, then that's what I'd prefer to do. I'm still going to wait on an update or two to lion before I make it my primary OS again, just because I really don't want to take any chances on inadvertently frying my brand new macbook pro. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Odd! You and I have the same system basically, except that your's is a Pro, where mine isn['t, but m ine's also Mid 2010. Dule core Intel 2.4GHZ, 2GB Ram, 250GB hard Drive, Lion OSX 10.7, 13 inch display. I can get my SMC Firmware version number, if you'd like me to, but I know, after referencing it on the Apple web site, that it is the newest, and when I tried to reinstall it from the dmg that I downloaded, as advised by a Senior advisor, the checksum on the version I had installed and on the DMG I downloaded matched to a T. So... yeah... I definitely think that the MDS Daemon has a lot to do with this, perhaps that isn't the only thing, but again, I staned before god, regardless what Carolyn, and others think, to say, for me, doing the things that I outlined last night, has now made my core 1 and 2, According to the app called Temperature Monitor, (Which is freeware by the way,) go dow3n to half, approx. where they were. Before, it was running with core 1 and 2, each individually at about 85C, with the fans running about 2000RPM, and my graffics chip when screen was at 0 percent brightness+screen curtain enabled, at about 90C. Now half all those figures or roughly. When I called Apple, they really didn't seem to care, or take the fact seriously that I almost burnt myself the other night when trying to move the system from my desk to my couch, and believe me, I have fairly tough skin. I don't burn easy. So, yeah, I don't know the deal, but it seems very odd that it was so hot that this happened, and that I've found tons of people having this issue. Just go to google, and search for macbook+lion+running hot I promise you'll find multiple results which reference this issue. The fact that Apple didn't take me seriously, and seems to think that 200F for a CPU is normal, and that over-heating would be around 450F...? Uh huhhum? Yeah, that would be overheating if it was a bottle rocket, but multen if it's metel, as it is. Needless to say, I question that advisor's credibility. If anyone wants to benchmark their system, as I said, just google for an app called Temperature Monitor. the app store might even have it. I didn't look there. I found it just by Googling, so, sorry, no longer have the U R L. If you all have issues finding it though, let me know and I'll try to dig it out of my history. Chris. - Original Message - From: James Malone james.9...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Wow, I'm honestly amazed so many of you are having this problem. Is it only on the really new models? Mine is the mid 2010 one, and its fine. MBP by the way. On 7/27/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but I'm gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open. Chris. On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed running very very hot; but, today, not so. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Hello Tim: As usual, very well thought out and very well spoken. I don't have the issue at present, thankfully. But, I really appreciate your succinct and clear explanation. Thank you. Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, I suggest that people dig a little deeper into the issue. In fact, I'd suggest You go into Activity Monitor, Interact with the Toolbar, make sure that the Processes pop-up is set to All Processes and then take a look at the percent CPU of the running processes. For the most part, the ones beginning with MD are the Spotlight related processes. If they are not using a high percentage of the CPU, then the below mentioned idea is totally unnecessary. Actually, I'd simply note the processes using the greatest amount of CPU and check with someone knowledgeable as to their importance. Stopping processes can lead to undesirable consequences if you're not familiar with the entire picture. One thing to note for those of you using external HDs, Spotlight will often index that external HD, especially if it's a clone of your main HD, this indexing will certainly create extra load and thus, extra heat. If you're not using the drive consistently, disconnect it and you'll notice changes in behaviour. Just my thoughts. Later… On 2011-07-26, at 10:35 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Yes Dear. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my block sender's list. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
I agree with Tim as well. I have a mid 2010 MBP and are not having any issues with heating. I think, however, when one is troubleshooting any issue, a lot of research and caution should be undertaken. I am one who likes to have multiple expert sources when it comes to an offered solution and the instructions on how to carry out any given task. Additionally, I prefer not to attempt anything requiring such caution until I have exhausted all other options. Thus, Tim's suggestion about using Activity monitor is surely a important place to start in trying to determine what processes might be causing a system to run hot and what may be hogging resources. Also, check the Apple forums and the various Apple related information sites, like Mac World, Mac Tidbits and other similar outlets to see if an issue is discussed and solutions are offered by multiple sources that seem to suggest the same procedures. Just my two cents, for what it's worth. I am not questioning anyone's knowledge or experience on the list, btw. I simply prefer having more than one source for any recommendation and being sure that recommendation has been utilized with success by more than a few individuals before I'll try it. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:39 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hello Tim: As usual, very well thought out and very well spoken. I don't have the issue at present, thankfully. But, I really appreciate your succinct and clear explanation. Thank you. Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, I suggest that people dig a little deeper into the issue. In fact, I'd suggest You go into Activity Monitor, Interact with the Toolbar, make sure that the Processes pop-up is set to All Processes and then take a look at the percent CPU of the running processes. For the most part, the ones beginning with MD are the Spotlight related processes. If they are not using a high percentage of the CPU, then the below mentioned idea is totally unnecessary. Actually, I'd simply note the processes using the greatest amount of CPU and check with someone knowledgeable as to their importance. Stopping processes can lead to undesirable consequences if you're not familiar with the entire picture. One thing to note for those of you using external HDs, Spotlight will often index that external HD, especially if it's a clone of your main HD, this indexing will certainly create extra load and thus, extra heat. If you're not using the drive consistently, disconnect it and you'll notice changes in behaviour. Just my thoughts. Later… On 2011-07-26, at 10:35 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Yes Dear. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my block sender's list. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks
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John, I tried all the things you and Tim suggested from the Activity Monitor, to the forums, etc. I'm sorry if my advice was useless. Chris. - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I agree with Tim as well. I have a mid 2010 MBP and are not having any issues with heating. I think, however, when one is troubleshooting any issue, a lot of research and caution should be undertaken. I am one who likes to have multiple expert sources when it comes to an offered solution and the instructions on how to carry out any given task. Additionally, I prefer not to attempt anything requiring such caution until I have exhausted all other options. Thus, Tim's suggestion about using Activity monitor is surely a important place to start in trying to determine what processes might be causing a system to run hot and what may be hogging resources. Also, check the Apple forums and the various Apple related information sites, like Mac World, Mac Tidbits and other similar outlets to see if an issue is discussed and solutions are offered by multiple sources that seem to suggest the same procedures. Just my two cents, for what it's worth. I am not questioning anyone's knowledge or experience on the list, btw. I simply prefer having more than one source for any recommendation and being sure that recommendation has been utilized with success by more than a few individuals before I'll try it. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:39 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hello Tim: As usual, very well thought out and very well spoken. I don't have the issue at present, thankfully. But, I really appreciate your succinct and clear explanation. Thank you. Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, I suggest that people dig a little deeper into the issue. In fact, I'd suggest You go into Activity Monitor, Interact with the Toolbar, make sure that the Processes pop-up is set to All Processes and then take a look at the percent CPU of the running processes. For the most part, the ones beginning with MD are the Spotlight related processes. If they are not using a high percentage of the CPU, then the below mentioned idea is totally unnecessary. Actually, I'd simply note the processes using the greatest amount of CPU and check with someone knowledgeable as to their importance. Stopping processes can lead to undesirable consequences if you're not familiar with the entire picture. One thing to note for those of you using external HDs, Spotlight will often index that external HD, especially if it's a clone of your main HD, this indexing will certainly create extra load and thus, extra heat. If you're not using the drive consistently, disconnect it and you'll notice changes in behaviour. Just my thoughts. Later… On 2011-07-26, at 10:35 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Yes Dear. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my block sender's list. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
No advice is ever useless. That was not the point of my post. My point was that research and caution should be taken before anyone tries any given suggestion presented to them, and should be completely certain that the remedy offered is something that will fix the problem. If you have found what you recommended to work for you and others who have taken your advice also have found similar success, all the better for everyone. Again, I was not seeking to discredit or detract from anyone's efforts. I was just suggesting caution and patience in determine exactly what is going on with the heating issue. Spotlight surely makes sense as a cause because of the indexing done in Lion, but that also does not infer or imply it's the only cause. Verification through multiple sources with any given matter is always something that one should consider. It's just common sense. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 27, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: John, I tried all the things you and Tim suggested from the Activity Monitor, to the forums, etc. I'm sorry if my advice was useless. Chris. - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I agree with Tim as well. I have a mid 2010 MBP and are not having any issues with heating. I think, however, when one is troubleshooting any issue, a lot of research and caution should be undertaken. I am one who likes to have multiple expert sources when it comes to an offered solution and the instructions on how to carry out any given task. Additionally, I prefer not to attempt anything requiring such caution until I have exhausted all other options. Thus, Tim's suggestion about using Activity monitor is surely a important place to start in trying to determine what processes might be causing a system to run hot and what may be hogging resources. Also, check the Apple forums and the various Apple related information sites, like Mac World, Mac Tidbits and other similar outlets to see if an issue is discussed and solutions are offered by multiple sources that seem to suggest the same procedures. Just my two cents, for what it's worth. I am not questioning anyone's knowledge or experience on the list, btw. I simply prefer having more than one source for any recommendation and being sure that recommendation has been utilized with success by more than a few individuals before I'll try it. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:39 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hello Tim: As usual, very well thought out and very well spoken. I don't have the issue at present, thankfully. But, I really appreciate your succinct and clear explanation. Thank you. Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, I suggest that people dig a little deeper into the issue. In fact, I'd suggest You go into Activity Monitor, Interact with the Toolbar, make sure that the Processes pop-up is set to All Processes and then take a look at the percent CPU of the running processes. For the most part, the ones beginning with MD are the Spotlight related processes. If they are not using a high percentage of the CPU, then the below mentioned idea is totally unnecessary. Actually, I'd simply note the processes using the greatest amount of CPU and check with someone knowledgeable as to their importance. Stopping processes can lead to undesirable consequences if you're not familiar with the entire picture. One thing to note for those of you using external HDs, Spotlight will often index that external HD, especially if it's a clone of your main HD, this indexing will certainly create extra load and thus, extra heat. If you're not using the drive consistently, disconnect it and you'll notice changes in behaviour. Just my thoughts. Later… On 2011-07-26, at 10:35 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Yes Dear. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my block sender's list. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few
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OK, I'm sorry, maybe I over-reacted. forgive me. I see now where you're coming from. Chris. - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:46 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution No advice is ever useless. That was not the point of my post. My point was that research and caution should be taken before anyone tries any given suggestion presented to them, and should be completely certain that the remedy offered is something that will fix the problem. If you have found what you recommended to work for you and others who have taken your advice also have found similar success, all the better for everyone. Again, I was not seeking to discredit or detract from anyone's efforts. I was just suggesting caution and patience in determine exactly what is going on with the heating issue. Spotlight surely makes sense as a cause because of the indexing done in Lion, but that also does not infer or imply it's the only cause. Verification through multiple sources with any given matter is always something that one should consider. It's just common sense. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 27, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: John, I tried all the things you and Tim suggested from the Activity Monitor, to the forums, etc. I'm sorry if my advice was useless. Chris. - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I agree with Tim as well. I have a mid 2010 MBP and are not having any issues with heating. I think, however, when one is troubleshooting any issue, a lot of research and caution should be undertaken. I am one who likes to have multiple expert sources when it comes to an offered solution and the instructions on how to carry out any given task. Additionally, I prefer not to attempt anything requiring such caution until I have exhausted all other options. Thus, Tim's suggestion about using Activity monitor is surely a important place to start in trying to determine what processes might be causing a system to run hot and what may be hogging resources. Also, check the Apple forums and the various Apple related information sites, like Mac World, Mac Tidbits and other similar outlets to see if an issue is discussed and solutions are offered by multiple sources that seem to suggest the same procedures. Just my two cents, for what it's worth. I am not questioning anyone's knowledge or experience on the list, btw. I simply prefer having more than one source for any recommendation and being sure that recommendation has been utilized with success by more than a few individuals before I'll try it. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:39 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hello Tim: As usual, very well thought out and very well spoken. I don't have the issue at present, thankfully. But, I really appreciate your succinct and clear explanation. Thank you. Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, I suggest that people dig a little deeper into the issue. In fact, I'd suggest You go into Activity Monitor, Interact with the Toolbar, make sure that the Processes pop-up is set to All Processes and then take a look at the percent CPU of the running processes. For the most part, the ones beginning with MD are the Spotlight related processes. If they are not using a high percentage of the CPU, then the below mentioned idea is totally unnecessary. Actually, I'd simply note the processes using the greatest amount of CPU and check with someone knowledgeable as to their importance. Stopping processes can lead to undesirable consequences if you're not familiar with the entire picture. One thing to note for those of you using external HDs, Spotlight will often index that external HD, especially if it's a clone of your main HD, this indexing will certainly create extra load and thus, extra heat. If you're not using the drive consistently, disconnect it and you'll notice changes in behaviour. Just my thoughts. Later… On 2011-07-26, at 10:35 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Yes Dear. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my block sender's list. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going
for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on terminal.app. 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing sudo mdsutil -a -i off Then press return. Type your administrator password, then hit return. Great! Now indexing should be disabled. 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but probably not. If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're done! If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, either way! Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the following two commands. I should add all these commands are case sensitive, so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em again. Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise doing this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type: sudo chmod 600 /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search Then for the change to take effect, type: killall SystemUIServer And hit return. Then quit Terminal with command+Q. Boom! Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot computer! Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address this, I'll write another e-mail post on how to undo all this crap. Again, I didn't say this was for the faint of heart, and if something blew up in your face along the way, again, I didn't say! to do this! I said, do it soly at your own risk. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on terminal.app. 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing sudo mdsutil -a -i off Then press return. Type your administrator password, then hit return. Great! Now indexing should be disabled. 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but probably not. If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're done! If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, either way! Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the following two commands. I should add all these commands are case sensitive, so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em again. Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise doing this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type: sudo chmod 600 /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search Then for the change to take effect, type: killall SystemUIServer And hit return. Then quit Terminal with command+Q. Boom! Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot computer! Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address this, I'll write another e-mail post on how to undo all this crap. Again, I didn't say this was for the faint of heart, and if something blew up in your face along the way, again, I didn't say! to do this! I said, do it soly at your own risk. Chris. -- You
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my block sender's list. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on terminal.app. 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing sudo mdsutil -a -i off Then press return. Type your administrator password, then hit return. Great! Now indexing should be disabled. 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but probably not. If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're done! If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, either way! Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the following two commands. I should add all these commands are case sensitive, so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em again. Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise doing this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type: sudo chmod 600 /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search Then for the change to take effect, type: killall SystemUIServer And hit return. Then quit Terminal with command+Q. Boom! Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot computer! Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address this, I'll write another e-mail post on how
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Yes Dear. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my block sender's list. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on terminal.app. 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing sudo mdsutil -a -i off Then press return. Type your administrator password, then hit return. Great! Now indexing should be disabled. 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but probably not. If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're done! If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, either way! Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the following two commands. I should add all these commands are case sensitive, so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em again. Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise doing this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type: sudo chmod 600 /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search Then for the change to take effect, type: killall SystemUIServer And hit return. Then quit Terminal with command+Q. Boom
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Carolyn, Regardless of any subsequent messages, this is the only message that you will receive from me on this reply. I'm posting this solely on the merit of what was suggested, not on friendship or enmity. According to Chris, a former senior adviser who has been promoted to an engineer has confirmed that this solution, though extreme, is totally viable and works perfectly. I haven't tried this solution, as I'm a newby and I don't trust that I wouldn't fowl something up, but I do trust his credibility.Chris is working on his apple certifications. He has worked on the Unix server side for at least ten years trying to write bash scripts. His experience is with Unix, Linux, Free BSD, Open Suce and others. This is not Unix, but Mac OSX is based on Unix under the hood, so that's why it works. Is this solution daunting? Oh baby is it ever! If Chris crashes my system due to a muck-up on his part, it's not the biggest deal due to my Time Machine backup. If the logic board is fried, Time Machine ain't comin' to my rescue! What he suggested is incredible in the best sense of that word! Frankly, I'm not sure why he doesn't go out to Cupertino to work for Apple. Carolyn, yo hablo español. Estudié en Hermosillo, Sonora, México por un semestre, y gané un diploma universitario en lengua española. Recibí un certificado en interpretación medical. Si usted va decirle mal a la gente, favor de escribir bien sus palabras. No he oído hablar de tiquila. Si usted se refiere a la bebida alcólica, se llama tequila. Carolyn, I speak Spanish fluently. I studied in Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico for a semester. I earned a Bachelor's degree in Spanish Language and a certification in medical interpreting. If you're gonna cut people down, at least spell your drinks correctly. I've not heard of tiquila, but I have heard of tequila. In Chris's defense, knock it off! P.S. If either Chris or I are moderated or banned because of this subthread, we are both leaving the list. He has confirmed this with me. Sincerely in Christ, Ben J. Bloomgren On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If cocktail works with lion, I will use it to disable spot light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep everything on my computer, so I have no need for spotlight, those resources are better used for other things. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on terminal.app. 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing sudo mdsutil -a -i off Then press return. Type your administrator password, then hit return. Great! Now indexing should be disabled. 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but probably not. If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're done! If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, either way! Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the following two commands. I should add all these commands are case sensitive, so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em again. Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise doing this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type: sudo chmod 600 /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search Then for the change to take effect, type: killall SystemUIServer And hit return. Then quit Terminal with command+Q. Boom! Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot computer! Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address this, I'll write another e-mail post on how to undo all this crap.
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Hello Mj: Your Spanish is commendable. I think perhaps Alex failed to correct my misspelling of the suggested drink. My commentary was based more on a lack of any sense of professional writing, such that the wonderful and apparently amazing fix was totally lost among the gibberish of the presentation. I do appreciate your bring these things to my attention, and I certainly wish your good buddy the best in getting his Apple certification. Take care Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:01 PM, Ben J Bloomgren wrote: Carolyn, Regardless of any subsequent messages, this is the only message that you will receive from me on this reply. I'm posting this solely on the merit of what was suggested, not on friendship or enmity. According to Chris, a former senior adviser who has been promoted to an engineer has confirmed that this solution, though extreme, is totally viable and works perfectly. I haven't tried this solution, as I'm a newby and I don't trust that I wouldn't fowl something up, but I do trust his credibility.Chris is working on his apple certifications. He has worked on the Unix server side for at least ten years trying to write bash scripts. His experience is with Unix, Linux, Free BSD, Open Suce and others. This is not Unix, but Mac OSX is based on Unix under the hood, so that's why it works. Is this solution daunting? Oh baby is it ever! If Chris crashes my system due to a muck-up on his part, it's not the biggest deal due to my Time Machine backup. If the logic board is fried, Time Machine ain't comin' to my rescue! What he suggested is incredible in the best sense of that word! Frankly, I'm not sure why he doesn't go out to Cupertino to work for Apple. Carolyn, yo hablo español. Estudié en Hermosillo, Sonora, México por un semestre, y gané un diploma universitario en lengua española. Recibí un certificado en interpretación medical. Si usted va decirle mal a la gente, favor de escribir bien sus palabras. No he oído hablar de tiquila. Si usted se refiere a la bebida alcólica, se llama tequila. Carolyn, I speak Spanish fluently. I studied in Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico for a semester. I earned a Bachelor's degree in Spanish Language and a certification in medical interpreting. If you're gonna cut people down, at least spell your drinks correctly. I've not heard of tiquila, but I have heard of tequila. In Chris's defense, knock it off! P.S. If either Chris or I are moderated or banned because of this subthread, we are both leaving the list. He has confirmed this with me. Sincerely in Christ, Ben J. Bloomgren On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight!
RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight the safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way over my little head, that's for sure! I have no doubt that they'd work, but as I read them, all I could think was: Or... Go back to SL until Lion is fised. If spotlight can be disabled simply and safely in sl too, though, I'd love instructions on that. Might that be something you'd cover in an up-coming podcast? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If cocktail works with lion, I will use it to disable spot light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep everything on my computer, so I have no need for spotlight, those resources are better used for other things. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on terminal.app. 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing sudo mdsutil -a -i off Then press return. Type your administrator password, then hit return. Great! Now indexing should be disabled. 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but probably not. If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're done! If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, either way! Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the following two commands. I should add all these commands
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
The thing is that Spotlight, yes, can be easily disabled. If you follow all my steps up until I start going into Terminal, in theory, that should! work, but the reason I did the terminal work is just to absolutely beyond a doubt be certained that it wouldn't try pulling anything stupid in the background unknowingly, as frankly, I dono about you Missy, but, I don't like surprises, nor over-heated logicboards, as they don't taste too good when cooked for dinner. LOL! Take care. Chris. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:15 AM Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight the safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way over my little head, that's for sure! I have no doubt that they'd work, but as I read them, all I could think was: Or... Go back to SL until Lion is fised. If spotlight can be disabled simply and safely in sl too, though, I'd love instructions on that. Might that be something you'd cover in an up-coming podcast? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If cocktail works with lion, I will use it to disable spot light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep everything on my computer, so I have no need for spotlight, those resources are better used for other things. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on terminal.app. 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing sudo mdsutil
Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
Hi, I suggest that people dig a little deeper into the issue. In fact, I'd suggest You go into Activity Monitor, Interact with the Toolbar, make sure that the Processes pop-up is set to All Processes and then take a look at the percent CPU of the running processes. For the most part, the ones beginning with MD are the Spotlight related processes. If they are not using a high percentage of the CPU, then the below mentioned idea is totally unnecessary. Actually, I'd simply note the processes using the greatest amount of CPU and check with someone knowledgeable as to their importance. Stopping processes can lead to undesirable consequences if you're not familiar with the entire picture. One thing to note for those of you using external HDs, Spotlight will often index that external HD, especially if it's a clone of your main HD, this indexing will certainly create extra load and thus, extra heat. If you're not using the drive consistently, disconnect it and you'll notice changes in behaviour. Just my thoughts. Later… On 2011-07-26, at 10:35 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Yes Dear. On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my block sender's list. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots of tiquila!!! On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. First of all, the problem at hand: I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as hot. Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit command+shift+C to go to computer. 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on terminal.app. 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing sudo mdsutil -a -i off Then press return. Type your administrator password, then hit return
