Re: N810 is here -- whitout ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb Steve Greenland: According to John Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And, no, it's not about open and free. Since the developers in question are Nokia (since the comment was directed at the release of the N810 itself, and not a request for more 3rd party

Re: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Acadia Secure Networks
Fred, I can't speak to your question with respect to the N810 since I don't have one yet. I can however, confirm that RDesktop does work on the N800 and I have used/tested it by VNC'ing into my N800 by means of TigntVNC running on Windows XP SP2 and used the rdesktop app on the N800 to

Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Lars Persson Fink
Hi, The excellent maemo mapper application can use both Google and OpenStreetMap as well as Microsoft Virtual Earth, possibly others. It also has a possibility to ask a web-service for a route between two locations. I see meamo mapper as a potential source of routes for the Route Finder

Re: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 12:59:09PM +0300, Quim Gil wrote: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/ Hum, almost empty. Mid November, this is when the first real customers are going to start playing with Chinook. The N810 will come with the extras repository preconfigured, users

Re: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Jonathan Greene
perfect - no python means quite a few things just won't work... On 10/19/07, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 12:59:09PM +0300, Quim Gil wrote: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/ Hum, almost empty. Mid November, this is when the first real

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How important is it to fix this? I'm working on the assumption that you would only activate Show all packages in an emergency, but would usually leave it off (precisely because it decreases the useability so much). The problem is that while in

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I fully understand what it's doing but not why it's doing it. Since the act of doing the first update is the equivalent of apt-get update However if you use Adept/Synaptic/dpkg etc the act of the update accumulates all of this

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The optimum may be between the two - meaning we need some kind of a quality management for the community efforts. To approve that just verified and checked apps are in the official and universe repositories. So that Jill Random and ourselves can

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 18 October 2007 11:30:34 Marius Gedminas wrote: I sincerely hope Maemo Extras rejects sourceless packages. Marius Gedminas Marius, I would hope that they reject binary packages period, in that like every distro I've

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 15:14 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: - mediaplayer not playing the file I think the problem is here, unfortunately :( Developper documentation is a little too scarce about media player, unfortunately. .

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:32 +0300, Kalle Valo a écrit : ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know what the killer feature is? Automatic wifi connection. I absolutely hate it when I have to tap the silly little globe, then tap the connect menu item, then wait a few

Re: N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Jean-Christian de Rivaz
Marius Vollmer a écrit : ext Jean-Christian de Rivaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interresting, I missed this very important point, thanks for the info. I am Swiss French and I will buy the N810 as soon as possible, but I wonder what keyboard will be on the version buyable in Switzerland as the

Re: N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Jean-Christian de Rivaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interresting, I missed this very important point, thanks for the info. I am Swiss French and I will buy the N810 as soon as possible, but I wonder what keyboard will be on the version buyable in Switzerland as the standard Keyboard here is

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 12:11 +0200, Krischan Keitsch a écrit : Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these things are documented in

Re: N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Laurent MARTIN
The N810 will be available in a French AZERTY version. For the complete list of hardware variants, see Language support at: http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/sections/products/ tech_specs/en-R1/tech_specs_n810_en_R1.html Excellent! Thank you, Tomas. -- Laurent, Nantes (FR) -

Re: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Quim Gil
http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/ Hum, almost empty. Mid November, this is when the first real customers are going to start playing with Chinook. The N810 will come with the extras repository preconfigured, users will only need to activate it manually. downloads.maemo.org is going

Re: N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Jean-Christian de Rivaz
Tomas Junnonen a écrit : ext Laurent MARTIN wrote: The N810 will be available in a French AZERTY version. For the complete list of hardware variants, see Language support at: http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/sections/products/tech_specs/en-R1/tech_specs_n810_en_R1.html Interresting, I

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these things are documented in upstream projects. There should still be a tutorial how to do these things though. Tutorial is already available in Maemo 3.x SDK

Re: N810 is here (touch screen)

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
ext Alan Williamson wrote: Maybe a silly question, but is the N810 still a touch screen device? Yes. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Tomas Junnonen
ext Laurent MARTIN wrote: Hi! When the N810 will be available in France, will it be shipped with an AZERTY keyboard or will it stay with its current QWERTY one? OK, I agree that QWERTY is much more powerful for system/development purposes but my contacts are nearly all French and I need easy

Re: how to turn off and lock the n800 (answer)

2007-10-19 Thread Laurent MARTIN
So recapitulating, for those who were asking how to do it: * When the PowerKeyShortAction=softpoweroff the keys are locked * When the PowerKeyLongAction=softpoweroff the keys are NOT locked Wait, wait, wait ;-) As far as I've tested it on my N800, setpoweroff locks the keys and the screen in

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also this won't utilize the DSP). I don't agree with ogg = nerd

Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Lars Persson Fink
Hi, I (like most others) saw the news of the N810, with built in GPS. Someone suggested that the maemo community could work for more location aware applications, that got me thinking about the idea of the Route Finder Service. Unfortunately I do not have the time or competence needed in order

RE: External Monitor with N800

2007-10-19 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Kalle, Thank you! I think I'll give it a shot. If it works, great and I'll post the results. If it doesn't, lesson learned and I'll still post the results. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kalle Valo Sent: Wednesday, October 17,

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 11:32:12AM +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I could keep my tablet online all the time, of course, but then the battery wouldn't last till the end of the day. It should stay online for days, not hours. I didn't mean to imply

Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Jonathan Greene
Please don't hate for suggesting non-open source ideas ... ;) If we had a native google maps application it would take of quite a few of these needs... The new native app on Symbian is really excellent and integrates really nicely in the N95. I wonder if there are any lurkers here from Google...

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Tilman Vogel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederic Crozat schrieb: And to do that, we need expected to work but doesn't work ogg support package. And unfortunately, neither mogg or ogg-support packages are in this state for n800 (one lack schema and the other is not registering the

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: - mediaplayer not playing the file I think the problem is here, unfortunately :( Developper documentation is a little too scarce about media player, unfortunately. . Unfortunately. Am I wrong when I identify the missing source of the media player as part

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (In other words, it is conservative when removing things. Not like aptitude that goes and deletes half your OS if you are not careful.. :) Aww, cmon, this is mostly fixed in aptitude these days. Besides, it made life exciting! Yep, I should try

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these things are documented in upstream projects. There should still be a tutorial how to do these things

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thursday 18 October 2007 20:01:36 Steve Greenland wrote: According to James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a. open AM b. get asked if I want to update package lists. c. click to browse installable packages. d. wait for update packages (why it just did an update.)

Re: N810 is here

2007-10-19 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also this won't utilize the DSP). I don't agree with ogg = nerd feature. Linux as an open and

Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Henri Bergius
On 10/19/07, Lars Persson Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My thought was that it would be possible to supply the service with a source and a destination address and have respond with a route and information about the route, for instance the estimated time. The Route Finder Service could then ask

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My personal pet peeve with the app manager is all those confirmation dialogs. Yeah, and there will be more in the future... There should be at least one before starting the operation, Please

Cannot execute ARM binary in scratchbox

2007-10-19 Thread Sharath Mudalamane
TO: Maemo Users FROM: Sharath Mudalamane Subject: [Cannot execute ARM binary in scratchbox] Hello, I am trying to execute an arm binary on 386 using qemu-arm. I am unable to execute the binary generated. Can anyone who is familiar with this, help me?

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My personal pet peeve with the app manager is all those confirmation dialogs. Yeah, and there will be more in the future... There should be at least one before starting the operation, and we can't get rid of the legal Notice dialog for

Re: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Jonathan Greene
Only thing I saw in the repository was Open SSH which I installed. FBReader installed fine too using the one-click file with the new release. Unable to install ScummVM. Not sure why, that's the error that I got upon loading the .deb that was linked earlier. Term was pre-installed and procinfo