we're floating on top.
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Yes, but being on a shaky, leaky canoe ready to sink or capsize on
top of a cesspool is still not a very nice place to be.
;-)
Dragon
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e already present in your outgoing mailbox.
This is a known problem and Google appears to not give a damn about fixing it.
Please see:
http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/I+use+Gmail-Googlemail%2C+but+I+can%27t+tell+if+any+of+my+messages+have+been+posted+to+the+list
Dragon
~
back in, then just add the second one. You need
them both so it listens on both port 25 and the alternate port.
That will do what you want and maintain the original sendmail functionality.
Dragon
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Mark Sapiro wrote:
Dragon wrote:
>
>MTAs are designed to deliver mail to the correct host based on the MX
>record for a given domain.
Except in cases where the recipient domain is one of the MTA's 'local
domains'. In that case, the mail is delivered locally wit
cause it
wastes bandwidth and because it leaves a big hole open for abuse.
Dragon
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If so, reverse the order of lookup to:
order hosts bind
That will ensure that the IP address resolution is driven by what is
in the hosts file before it goes out to any DNS server.
More info:
http://tldp.org/LDP/nag/node82.html
Dragon
e-mail to determine threading order.
Threading in the archive is controlled by References: and
In-Reply-To: headers, not by the Date: header or even the subject line.
Dragon
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e to set up your
aliases or mail routing to deliver to the appropriate instance for
each domain. However, I don't know exactly how to do that.
Dragon
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latest version here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103
If you have any questions or concerns, please
check the FAQ to see if your question might be
answered there before posting to the list.
Mailman FAQ:
http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Dragon
Michael Welch wrote:
Dragon wrote at 08:06 AM 7/16/2008:
>>Does there exists some extension/add-on for mailman that would
enabled the www discussion interface? So that its possible to
read/write contributions both with emails and www interface? My
admin keeps telling me that nothing i
ectories it
failed to fix? That way one of the developers could have a look at
what went wrong and see if it is something that could be fixed.
If you did not run it as root, the user you did run as may not have
permission to change the ownership and file permission
nothing is like that and I cant believe him.
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No such thing exists. Mailman is an e-mail list manager, not a
web-mail solution like Yahoo or Google groups.
Dragon
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am not certain).
You probably also want to remove the offending messages from the mbox
files for the lists and then rebuild the archives without them,
though there are issues with possibly breaking links to messages in
the archives.
Once you have things cleaned up, you can resta
rvice provider that allows it, but they
may have other issues for you to deal with (like being blacklisted).
Or you can just live with the restrictions your ISP has imposed on
their shared hosting system.
Dragon
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e they are posting to the list address and not mistakenly
trying to post using the bounce address.
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effectively fix problems.
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at is happening
is if you contact their technical support (if you can actually get an
answer out of them, they may well ignore your request too).
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Now that the FAQ has migrated to the Wiki, perhaps the links in the
footers of the list messages should be changed to reflect that?
Dragon
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sword reminder. You have to click the "Unsubscribe or edit
options" button to get to the page with the password reminder button.
This really needs to be FAR more obvious. It really should be an item
on the very first page a user
e, nothing will automatically remove the archives.
Not everyone wants the archives to go away even when a list does. The
safest thing to do is just leave it alone and let the system
administrator deal with it as desired.
Dragon
~~~
Veni
y from the big
guys like AOL, Yahoo, gmail, etc.)
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members and I have to search for any
other members individually.
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In version 2.1.10 (NOT anything earlier) you can adjust the number of
users displayed per page by setting admin_member_chunksize on the
General Options page.
Dragon
n until you get
things fixed and then restart it afterward. I doubt you will have to
do anything to it, but it can't hurt to be cautious.
Dragon
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n't. Where do I set that in the Web UI?
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Should be in the list general options. I am not sure, but you may
have to do a Mailman restart to enable it.
Dragon
~~~
Venimus,
he archive is public. The current architecture under
pipermail is that the actual archive pages themselves are just static
HTML files and the wrapper script only has the function of setting
and checking an access token in a cookie to access them if
etter spent getting and using a tool specific to your needs.
Dragon
~~~
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that works, you will have to decide if you want to just keep it
off or go to the trouble of configuring SElinux.
Dragon
~~~
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account is currently not available."
I'm running an RHEL 5 box.
As I stated in my earlier reply, I do have my account set up as part
of the mailman group. I can run mailman scripts with no problem
without having to sudo to anything else.
Dragon
~
n all of the
scripts having proper permissions so you would have had to run the
bin/check_perms script with the -f option until you received no
errors (run it as root when you do that).
Dragon
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ist.org/mailman-install/node32.html
But the error message he got when he executed newaliases leads me to
believe there is something else that is wrong there. So yeah, I agree
with you Brad that he would be better served with getting help on a
sendmail related for
Shams Fantar sent the message below at 09:55 4/30/2008:
Dragon wrote:
>> Did you add the list aliases for the list to the /etc/aliases file and
> > then run newaliases?
Yes, I did. But when I run newaliases :
WARNING: local host name (;; connection timed out; no servers could be
of aliases for it should have been
provided as output from the newlist script or via the web interface.
Those have to be set up properly so sendmail knows what to do with
the addresses associated to the list.
Dragon
~~~
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Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:29:57 -0700, Dragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>Just wanted to ask how you manage the following situation:
> >>
> >>There
best negligent and at worst it is willfully
ignoring the wishes of people to no longer receive your mailing.
What you need to do in this case is to process the unsubscribe
notices from mailman and then remove the corresponding e-mail
addresses from the database. This should not
.
If anyone has incorrectly edited Defaults.py instead of putting
things in mm_cfg.py, those changes will be lost.
Dragon
~~~
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is usually quite close to the final version and the
only changes that are made in a stable release are often just translation
issues.
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See:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.062.htp
Dragon
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the digest period.
Dragon
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everyone, it really won't have any effect.
Dragon
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Steve Lindemann sent the message below at 14:43 4/3/2008:
>Dragon wrote:
>>Steve Lindemann sent the message below at 12:18 4/3/2008:
>>>
>>>The problem - when the list email address is (spoofed) in the From: line
>>>(as well as being on the To: line) the messag
processed through mailman. If not, perhaps it was BCC'ed to your
address or there is something else going on with your MTA.
Dragon
~~~
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~~
he list archive while an URL is added to the list post
pointing to the file.
All of this is controllable by file type, if you desired it, you can
allow or scrub some types of attachments while disallowing all others.
Dragon
~~~
V
guration is to have the gmail address you are sending to added
to acceptable_aliases on the Privacy Options -> Recipient filters page.
Dragon
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~~
CC: headers of the e-mail. You will get this if you
BCC: a list. You can turn this off if you like if you set
require_explicit_destination to NO on the Privacy Options ->
Recipient filters page.
Dragon
o be an anonymous list.
Check the anonymous_list setting on the main list options page.
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It's in the FAQ. How did you search for it?
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.004.htp
Dragon
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ution of mailman does not offer this
functionality. It would require some custom code to implement.
The only other option you have is to place these members on moderated
posting and have a human play traffic cop.
Dragon
~~~
Venimus
s message to. Required.
-q queuename
--queue=queuename
The name of the queue to inject the message to. The queuename must be
one of the directories inside the qfiles directory. If omitted, the
incoming queue is used.
filename is the name of the
heir e-mail client so
they can either live with it or find an e-mail client to their liking.
Dragon
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That is not a problem with mailman, that is specifically a problem
with Outlook (not sure exactly what versions).
More info:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=on+behalf+of&querytype=simple&casefold=yes&req=search
a Gmail account, the original post will then "magically"
appear in the threaded view. Since I don't use Gmail, I have to admit this
is hearsay at this point.
There is really nothing anyone can do about it unless and until Google
decides to change it. Your users either have to live wi
ribution's notion of a "proper" file
heirarchy. Red Hat moves things around and if you are using Plesk or
Cpanel, they move things too (and support for them is out of the scope of
this list as they haven't shared their
file for the standard crontab in the
Mailman distribution you can edit and then install using crontab.
Dragon
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sendeail.php the clear image dose not
>clear the contact page
>
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And precisely what does this have to do with Mailman?
I'd suggest finding a forum or list dedicated to
es to be used as
input to Mailman's bin/sync_members script. Maybe this approach will
work for you too.
Dragon
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Venimus, Salta
ally rejected. But you must also understand that this is
a volunteer effort, nobody gets paid for it and you aren't paying
anything to obtain or use the software to those volunteer developers.
Dragon
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V
ent
something or they may not. The fact that one of the core developers
(Mark Sapiro) is telling you that his is not desirable should be an
indication that the way it functions is probably not going to change.
Which leaves you with basically two options, develop the changes y
rarily intercept these for troubleshooting?
>I'd just like to see some of the NDRs.
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Is there some way you can have the -bounces address deliver to both
the mailman queue and a mailbox?
I know that is possible with sendmail but I a
s the .py file.
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it reply it only goes back to the sender (a philosophical point I
despise but won't try to argue. Thankfully, I can configure my lists
the way I prefer to post back to the list).
Dragon
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Venimus, Sa
sed on this list at least a couple of times in
the last week or so.
As Mark has both pointed out, see FAQ entry 4.039 for more detail:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.039.htp
Dragon
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t site-wide mailman list as detailed in the
install instructions?
Do you have access to the mailman logs?
If so, what does the error log say?
All of that would give folks a starting point to help you, right now
there is simply not
mailman 4096 Jan 3 09:00 cuisine
If you are running a default installation of mailman, your lists
directories should have the same permissions.
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om.
See if this might be of use:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.042.htp
Particularly the part about Gmail near the bottom.
Dragon
t is created
and you would have to modify it for each list. You can see this by
using the dumpdb script to examine the config.pck file for a list,
the parameter is admin_member_chunksize.
You can change this by using the config_list script -o op
ut the config.pck in it and run
>"bin/list_members -f -p "
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Is it really necessary to have a fully functioning Mailman
installation to do this?
Would it not be sufficient to have Python install
hat would really serve
no useful purpose and would obscure the fact that the address is used
as bounce processing address.
However, it may not be as simple as just changing an alias depending
on what MTA you are using and how Mailman is set up.
I'
ead.
This is a well known issue here on this list and I know a number of
Gmail users have complained about it but Google apparently has no
intention of fixing it (last I heard).
Dragon
~~
g/software/mailman/mailman-install/index.html
Specifically, you want to look at section 6 and follow the guide for
whichever MTA you are using.
Dragon
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>Thanks for the input :)
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Run the bin\check_perms script with the -f option until it reports no
errors. You need to be logged in as root to do this.
Dragon
~~~
Venimus,
p you better than
I in that regard.
>Incase you have not gathered, I'm a newbie :)
Hey, we all started somewhere, there's no shame in that.
>I'll run through the troubleshoots, thanks for the link
Excellent, report back with your success or more information on the
fail
://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.078.htp
There may be other things in the FAQ that may prove useful, it has a
lot of information. (See the footer to any list post for a link to the FAQ).
Dragon
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uot; list?
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Yes, you need to add these to the /etc/aliases file and then run
newaliases for sendmail to recognize them.
When you create a new list with bin/newlist it will output a list of
the aliases you need for the list. They must als
g. Mailman uses a set of command line tools and
a web interface but there is no GUI that controls Mailman.
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mattias wrote:
>where can i find a list of mm_cfg.py variables?
>
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Read the comments in Defaults.py they will tell you what you can set
in mm_cfg.py
Dragon
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V
; means set by the administrator, and "?" means unknown. So
>what does "U" mean?
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U = User, meaning the person with that e-mail address went into their
settings page and set
d works fine, then do
a thousand at a time.
Why is it so important to do it in one gulp?
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.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/index.html
I found a previous version of that document to be very clear and
helpful when I first setup Mailman on my server a couple years ago.
BTW, that is the first result returned if you Google on &q
withlist script.
Dragon
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Larry Stone sent the message below at 14:09 8/29/2007:
>On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, Dragon wrote:
>
> > Lots of us have done just that. I run my lists on a server owned by a
> > friend and have pretty much free reign to do whatever I want.
>
> > If you can justify the cost
rick is finding a place to host that server that
won't cost an arm and a leg.
Dragon
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On Mon, August 27, 2007 17:06, Jon Slater wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I know this is a really dumb question, but until recently, I have always
> received a copy of any e-mail I sent to a list that I'm a member of.
>
> But now, I'm not. I send e-mail to the board list, and I never receive a
> copy.
erator are not automatically members of a list,
in order to post to a members only list, you must be subscribed to it
and have your moderation bit turned off.
If you are not a member and you have the non-member post action set
to disca
ed. If you wish to
change them for existing lists you must do that through the web
interface or a withlist script.
Dragon
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that.
Are the Qrunners running? (Do "ps aux | grep mailman" as root to find out)
What is your MTA?
Have you set up the aliases for the list(s) so your MTA knows how to
route list traffic?
What is in the mailman error, smtp and vette logs?
Dragon
~~
e second thing on that page.
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Mailman does this automatically by default if you have the list set
to confirm subscription requests. The other options are approval
required or both confirm and approve.
Dragon
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Dragon wrote:
>Far more likely is that the subscribers are getting multiple copies
>of replies to their posts or they have filter rules that are copying
>the posts instead of moving them.
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That didn't come out exactly
oth an RHEL 4 and
an RHEL 6 system and never had a problem with doing so.
Otherwise, you are pretty much doomed to being behind a bit on
releases if you rely on a package distribution of Mailman.
Dragon
otherwise indicated, all material in this post is
copyright , all rights reserved."
The problem with this is that the poster using it must be extremely
careful to ensure that all quoted material is indicated unambiguously
as being not under the copyright notice.
It'
debase, and for which version?
>
>Is there a standard template library for Python, ala Template::Toolkit for
>perl or Smarty for php ?
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No, that is why this discussion is going on.
Dragon
~~~
Stephen J. Turnbull did speak thusly:
>Dragon writes:
>
> > Actually no, those are not the best way to do this IMO. If ALL of the
> > web pages were template-based, it would be a simple matter of
> > defining the CSS you want in a CSS file and adding it to the page head
adding it to the page header.
Wasn't somebody working on moving everything to a template system for
the 2.2 branch or was that for 3.0? If so, that would be a nice new
feature to have.
Dragon
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e and time and used that to set the
creation date of the message file. While that works, it would be nice
to have this built into the arch script as an option for those who
would like it.
Dragon
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members on moderated
status. Have you tried setting that for the list and then adding a
member via this method?
It's worth a try.
Dragon
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~~~
that such
access could be useful. And to be honest, even though I have such
access, it is unlikely that I would add yet another list to my many
subscriptions just on the off chance I might be able to help somebody
over there.
Dragon
~~~
. You can shut off the bounce processing, but
this is not recommended for a number of reasons.
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t one. It gets overwritten when Mailman is upgraded.
You can put the settings you want in the mm_cfg.py file, this file is
used to override defaults and set other options like msg_footer etc.
at list creation. The settings you wa
private list, it should return it. But what is
confusing is that the private list shows up under the "Public lists:"
header in the response e-mail. I think that this private listing
should have a heading in the reply stating that it is private and is
listed be
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