Re: [mailop] Why is mail forwarding such a mess?

2024-02-10 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
You have a good point in that the first and main problem is that the forwarder cannot be trusted to not mangle or fake the original message. Nothing else can be sorted out until this gets out of the way, including OOB communication between originator and final receiver. Which is in effect

Re: [mailop] BIMI boycott?

2024-01-11 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
Greetings. What I believe will happen is most non-big mail client apps will support BIMI if they support avatars, otherwise, they won't, cause the arguments on the receiver side are the same for both features. I don't buy the "promoting authentication" argument. There would be a marginal

Re: [mailop] SPF (and other email security protocols) Survey

2022-11-24 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 2022-11-24 14:01, Tobias Fiebig via mailop wrote: And to circle back to on-topic: The result of that is what then pops up in /var/log/maillog. So it isn't about 'should VT change [something]'; It is more 'shouldn't society change the incentive structure and general setup around academia as

Re: [mailop] Musings on Mail Service Operators

2022-02-03 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 3/2/22 13:59, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: To me any system that aims to replace email must be based on pushing messages and have a distributed nature. This means that deliverability issues are an inherent risk, in a way that pulling messages from a central/unified service can avoid.

Re: [mailop] Barriers to Entry / Governance (was: What a drag it is sending DMARC reports)

2022-01-01 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 2021-12-31 13:42, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote: The difference between them is that, although HTTP provides for put and post verbs, the web evolved around clients downloading data from the servers, while email dealed the opposite direction. The implication with respect to spam is

Re: [mailop] Roundcube client IPs → dovecot, postfix

2021-12-28 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 2021-12-28 17:55, Nicolas JEAN via mailop wrote: My conclusion is that today, there's no technical way to forward client IPs from roundcube to dovecot/postfix. Doesn't the XFORWARD feature work for postfix? I thought that's how amavis for example talks to postfix. Usually via a dedicated

Re: [mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming? - the MEME

2021-08-05 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 2021-08-05 21:51, Brielle via mailop wrote: Looks like some of the topics of the spam is starting to gravitate towards current events... ESP to spamming customer: "improve the quality of your mailings, stop sending people mail they don't want or we will have to ask you again to stop,

Re: [mailop] Seeking advice for warming up IPs with Microsoft

2021-07-30 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 2021-07-30 11:30, mailop--- via mailop wrote: I'm not sure that anyone can offer me anything other than sympathy but I'm open to any advice or suggestions. These huge freemail providers are killing email. Mail was never supposed to be so centralized. We're just managing our misery here.

Re: [mailop] Deutsche Telekom rejects connections because of missing "provider identification"

2020-08-27 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 26/8/2020 20:36, flo via mailop wrote: I prefer not to put my private address unprotected on the internet. Well duh. Not everyone is a business with already-public information. I run my own server and host some domains on that. What assurances do I have that my personal information is

Re: [mailop] Google and Spam detection

2020-07-24 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 24/7/2020 8:12 μ.μ., Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote: On 24 Jul 2020, at 7:48, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Not true, I was (and am) always delivering mail via IPv4 and had mentioned problems (and also other people whose complaints I have read don't use IPv6 as well). I see no

Re: [mailop] Google and Spam detection

2020-07-24 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 24/7/2020 7:13 μ.μ., John Levine via mailop wrote: In article <20200724160354.gg9...@ikki.ethgen.ch> you write: I think it might happen that in past hetzner (my hosting provider) ... Oh, there's your problem. Hetzner's network spews garbage. I don't accept any mail from it at all.

Re: [mailop] Ideas for possible content for FAQ: "Best Practices for running a mail server"

2020-02-17 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 17/2/2020 22:39, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote: One could state facts – i.e., pointing out that SPF will break straight forwarding and mailing lists that do not rewrite – without introducing judgement. How about a small section in the FAQ about decisions that the mail admin must make?

Re: [mailop] Microsoft fragmented abuse reporting

2019-10-17 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 17/10/2019 22:05, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: Why doesn't Microsoft handle this internally instead of forcing the reporter to jump through another flaming hoop? They got the report to their whois-listed abuse contact based on originating IP. They know what internal department should

Re: [mailop] Microsoft blacklisting a /16

2019-06-07 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 5/6/2019 20:23, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: That hasn't been determined as of yet. Comments and thoughts on that subject welcome. A good start would be VM/VPS/server provisioners actually putting default firewall rules in their images. Especially outgoing rules to a certain port