Re: [Marxism] Trotsky lives -- Paul Le Blanc reviewsRobertService's biography.

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Re: [Marxism] Another Happy Year To You !

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Re: [Marxism] [1211] Re: Another Happy Year To You !

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I have no intention of sending you anywhere Lara, just thought you might have

Re: [Marxism] US Farming [was cowflop]

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == State, debt, application of machinery- why that's the history of US capitalism,

Re: [Marxism] Was this about spending? [was: WSWS: Socialism and thedefense of public education

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Re: [Marxism] Manure

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == True, and a Marxist analysis would point out how the individual small farmer would

Re: [Marxism] Manure

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Marx was speaking with historical specificity-- of small, individual, peasant

Re: [Marxism] Manure

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Re: [Marxism] Manure

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Re: [Marxism] [microsound] Manure

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == First, agriculture requires a certain level of social, not technical, development

Re: [Marxism] The Danger of Overcapacity

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Re: [Marxism] WSWS: Socialism and the defense of public education

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == So... are we supposed to be against public education? W aren't against secular,

Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Dismiss the liberal Dogan from MarxMail list

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Dogan, A little bit more concrete understanding of the US would serve you well in

Re: [Marxism] WSWS: Socialism and the defense of public education

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == And I can telly without any question, the best thing I did for my daughters [the

Re: [Marxism] Productivity and real income

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Re: [Marxism] Communist Party backs Senate health care reform bill

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Re: [Marxism] Communist Party backs Senate health care reform bill

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Right, daily politics are different than strategic thinking. Sure they are. Sure

Re: [Marxism] The CP is Still Ga-Ga

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Nothing could interest me less than becoming philosophical. Marx is no

Re: [Marxism] Productivity and real income

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == What scarcity of resources? And this: Someday after chaos and scarcity reduce

[Marxism] Not a Very Good Durable Goods Report

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[Marxism] First Berlusconi, Now the Pope

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Re: [Marxism] Mini, Maxi, and Transitional

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Re: [Marxism] Mini, Maxi, and Transitional

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I think Mark nails it properly when he focuses on the issue of power-- the

Re: [Marxism] The CP is still ga-ga

. == There were some five replies to my last posts. Let me reply to them collectively by replying to S. Artisan. My replies are in red below: 2009/12/19 S. Artesian sartes...@earthlink.net Talk about superficial analysis this by Dogan

Re: [Marxism] Leninism: Its not what you think

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Sobuadhaigh provides an interpretation of history that glosses over the single

Re: [Marxism] They certainly keep good records, part II

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Re: [Marxism] Leninism: Its not what you think

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == How could I ever forget-- especially when the guy who doesn't know what the fuck

Re: [Marxism] Leninism: Its not what you think

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == In answer to Waistline's question. There are several reform movements I can think

Re: [Marxism] Leninism: Its not what you think

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == 1. Perhaps I should have stated that the inquiry was not limited to the summation

Re: [Marxism] Leninism: Its not what you think

collaboration. Made another mistake earlier-- I was thinking not of John L. Lewis and the UMWA, but rather his predecessor Frank Haynes and his tenure of the UMWA. - Original Message - From: S. Artesian sartes...@earthlink.net Send list

Re: [Marxism] Nepal: Maoists seize Kathmandu, announce parallel government

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I wonder if this qualifies as ultra-left adventurism? Are there actual class

Re: [Marxism] FROP again

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Re: [Marxism] The CP is still ga-ga

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Talk about superficial analysis this by Dogan takes some kind of cake: If the

Re: [Marxism] The CPUSA is still ga-ga

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == That's pretty clever, good use of exaggeration to make your point. Just in case

Re: [Marxism] Leninism: It's not what you think

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Now that's the Joaquin we know and love. Welcome back! - Original Message

Re: [Marxism] FROP again (about use-value)

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == 1. Part of your argument is not an argument-- I stated earlier that we need to

Re: [Marxism] FROP again (about use-value)

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Like I said, you are only repeating yourself. I know what happened to the

Re: [Marxism] Capital Class

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Re: [Marxism] Fw: Dr. Kevorkian

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I think I provided a link to a study that demonstrated the areas of actual

Re: [Marxism] The CPUSA is still ga-ga

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == OK, what's that supposed to indicate? A critical Marxist, class analysis of the

Re: [Marxism] Fw: Dr. Kevorkian

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I forgot to add perhaps the most important point: The system in use in the

Re: [Marxism] The CPUSA is still ga-ga

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Tom, If you read the original reply to the posting of the excerpt by Sam Webb, I

[Marxism] Comparative Advantage

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == From the US BLS website: Real average hourly earnings fell 0.5 percent from

Re: [Marxism] Fw: Dr. Kevorkian

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Re: [Marxism] Fw: Dr. Kevorkian

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Re: [Marxism] The CPUSA is still ga-ga

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Are you kidding me? Do you think that what you posted by Sam Webb betrays even the

[Marxism] Double Dips

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Re: [Marxism] What if this time the Sun does not rise?

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Re: [Marxism] Fw: Dr. Kevorkian

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Re: [Marxism] Fw: Dr. Kevorkian

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Re: [Marxism] Fw: Dr. Kevorkian

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Re: [Marxism] FROP again

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Re: [Marxism] FROP again

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Re: [Marxism] Paul Krugman: Taxing the Speculators ( - aka'TobinTax')

lux nick From: S. Artesian sartes...@earthlink.net Well, you didn't answer any of my previous questions, but that's OK, I've got plenty more. You are advocating that the government actively take positions in the market with these tax generated funds, something the US government has

Re: [Marxism] FROP again

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Re: [Marxism] FROP again

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Re: [Marxism] Global Warming again

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Re: [Marxism] FROP again

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Re: [Marxism] Afghanistan

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Re: [Marxism] Afghanistan

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Re: [Marxism] Afghanistan

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Re: [Marxism] Afghanistan

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Re: [Marxism] The Significance of Chavez' Call for a Fifth SocialistInternational

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Re: [Marxism] FROP again

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Re: [Marxism] The Significance of Chavez' Call for a FifthSocialistInternational

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Re: [Marxism] FROP again

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Re: [Marxism] Spiegel nails Obama's falseness

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Re: [Marxism] ISO and CA budget cuts

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Re: [Marxism] Eight theses on the economic crisis

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Re: [Marxism] theses on the economic crisis

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Re: [Marxism] (no subject) value, social revolution and revolution at the front

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Re: [Marxism] Eight theses on the Economic crisis

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Re: [Marxism] Honduras: Unequivocal signs of coming repression,,

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Re: [Marxism] theses on the economic crisis

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Re: [Marxism] Honduras: Unequivocal signs of coming repression,,

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Comrade, You need to have a look... at the history of the Russian Revolution.

Re: [Marxism] (no subject)

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Re: [Marxism] Honduras: Unequivocal signs of coming repression,

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Re: [Marxism] [Spanish, sorry] My cde. Battistoni answers to some rrrrrrevolutionaries

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Re: [Marxism] Bank bailout list

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Re: [Marxism] Come back Karl

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yes, that is correct-- I used that as a lead in to explore the real sources of the

Re: [Marxism] (no subject)

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Re: [Marxism] (no subject)

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Re: [Marxism] (no subject)

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == A pretty well thought out and well argued presentation, one that I admire even as

[Marxism] Venezuela

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yesterday, Sandia asked for comments on the WSJ on the contraction in the

Re: [Marxism] The Chinese Revolution (90 years ago)

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Re: [Marxism] The Chinese Revolution (90 years ago)

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == What came first, in actuality, was the inability of capitalism in China to develop

Re: [Marxism] Rethinking Marxism: Temporal Value Theory in a Moment of Crisis; Roundtable on the Economic Crisis

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[Marxism] Cross Border Flows

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Re: [Marxism] The Chinese Revolution (90 years ago) - theory

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Re: [Marxism] The Socialist Revolution Started 90 Years Ago in China

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Re: [Marxism] The Socialist Revolution Started 90 Years Ago in China

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Re: [Marxism] The Socialist Revolution Started 90 Years Ago in China

== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == What's schematic about the real class relations, the real economics, at the core

Re: [Marxism] list rule reminder

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Re: [Marxism] Energy and El Niño, Venezuela and Co lombia

So Venezuela is losing an excessive amount of transmitted energy, and is running up against capacity limitations? Yes? No? - Original Message - From: Les Schaffer schaf...@optonline.net To: David Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:23 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Marxism] Zizek on the Berlin Wall

Yes, I agree-- it's all historical, but the reference Zizek makes is specifically to China. I agree also that China is not a successor state to the US in the configuration of advanced capitalism. It, China's new model capitalism, is based on the rather old cheap labor model, more

Re: [Marxism] Greek Orthodox al Qaeda operative?

What a s**tbag country this is, and Florida being one of the biggest bags. - Original Message - From: Louis Proyect l...@panix.com To: David Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:25 PM Subject: [Marxism] Greek Orthodox al Qaeda operative? (

Re: [Marxism] Energy and El Niño, Venezuela and Co lombia

Look, we need to get some numbers here-- in terms of increased power consumption in Venezuela. Remember about soviets and electricity? Well social revolution, social development takes a lot of juice, literally. So the improved social welfare of more, rather than fewer people in Venezuela

Re: [Marxism] Energy and El Niño, Venezuela and Co lombia

So here's what the IEA says for 2006: Vz: total electricity generation app 110,000 Gwh Hydro-electric portion 70% (Colombia about 75%, Brazil 85%) Consumption 80,773 GWh Loss in distribution 24, 028 [perhaps David or Anthony can explain that number-- is it really Gwh lost in transmission and

Re: [Marxism] Economists Seek to Fix a Defect in Dat a That Overstates the Nation’s Vigor (NYT)

Can we get off this merry-go-round? Every time the spot price of oil doubles, the same old same old record gets played-- peak oil, shortages just around the corner, the US is applying pressure to the IEA according to unnamed sources. You think this might have anything to do with the fact that

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