Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[John Berryman]

On Mar 30, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

You open the refrigerator door and see everything else standing  
there with

their hands up and the sour cream holding a pistol, robbing them at
gunpoint.



Craig


That's bad.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Suspension.

[Chuck Landenberger]

Not gone...!!

Try;http://www.mercedeslist.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes

Chuck
On Mar 30, 2006, at 3:36 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:


 (I have the Easley thesis on subject).


That's good. I believe the R/E website is gone...
Rick Knoble
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'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Way to go Jim. Can't wait to see the pics.

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
Wickford, RI


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Done.  (Except for the hood ornament.)  I even waxed it.
Need to do a photo shoot now, then I can list it.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

[Jim Cathey]

Done.  (Except for the hood ornament.)  I even waxed it.
Need to do a photo shoot now, then I can list it.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 0-60 Target?

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Larry,
Nitske says 0-60 is 12.4 sec. I should time my 90 too.

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
Wickford, RI


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Howdy -
What should my target time for 0-60mph be - '91 300D 2.5 Turbo?  I'm
going 
to benchmark it - tried it today but noticed the AC was on and the road 
wasn't really level either - so I'll try again.  My fingers on the
stopwatch 
may not have been quite perfect either.

TIA!

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] testing1

[Rick Knoble]

testing1



You failed

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Suspension.

[Rick Knoble]

 (I have the Easley thesis on subject).  


That's good. I believe the R/E website is gone...
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'87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] was I accidently taken off the list?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yes

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Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine,
to keep it from turning while removing the hex head fan bolt?  Mercedes
sells a tool but it is 140.00.


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[MBZ] W126 Rear Suspension.

[Peter T . Arnold]

Still having trouble making %#& CD Manual  work.  Major drawback on
this car is there is no paper manual to refer to.  In the quest for
service dollars, Mother Benz hurts us here

Getting ready to replace rear Sub frame mounts (I have the Easley
thesis on subject).  
When I replace shocks, they come out the bottom?  Nothing special?

Rear rotors "Fall off" after I remove calipers?

I'm thinking this is going to be a wonderful weekend, not.


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1995 F-250 PowerChoke  190Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
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is!

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Used 126 wheels 86 420 SEL

[Trampas]

I think tire rack sells them. I know I purchased 4 rims for a W124 from tire
rack. 

Trampas

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On Mar 30, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> those are EXPENSIVE when you can find them.  I happen to have at  
> least 3
> sets but am saving them for some special occasion.  They usually sell
> for close to $400 a set.

Rare? They are the typical 15" wheels that came after the venerable

"Bundt Cake Wheels". IIRC the 124 wheels of that era may be hard to  
come by and better looking in my opinion.
I went past a place in Harlem last week that sells any used wheel  
for $40 or less (they also have new spinners if anyone thinks they  
need some). At the time I didn't know the guy wanted any.

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Used 126 wheels 86 420 SEL

[John Berryman]

On Mar 30, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

those are EXPENSIVE when you can find them.  I happen to have at  
least 3

sets but am saving them for some special occasion.  They usually sell
for close to $400 a set.


	Rare? They are the typical 15" wheels that came after the venerable  
"Bundt Cake Wheels". IIRC the 124 wheels of that era may be hard to  
come by and better looking in my opinion.
	I went past a place in Harlem last week that sells any used wheel  
for $40 or less (they also have new spinners if anyone thinks they  
need some). At the time I didn't know the guy wanted any.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] New tumbler is different

[Zoltan Finks]

Yeah I think I can follow. Didn't know if I'd be tearing into the
column to do this or not. Thanks again.

Brian

On 3/30/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I used a pipette to squirt (more drip) the oil down the lock shaft via the 
> opening for the tumbler.  Follow?
>
> ~
> ~You say squirt the oil "into the column lock". Forgive my ignorance, but
> ~where exactly are you referring to the oil being squirted?
> ~
> ~The column lock is an item located inside the steering column, no? Which
> ~would mean I must disassemble the column partially to do this lubing? OR are
> ~you saying that the oil should be squirted into the area that the tumbler
> ~plugs into?
> ~
> ~Thanks!
> ~Brian
> ~83 240D
> ~
> ~
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 603 Fan removal

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine,
to keep it from turning while removing the hex head fan bolt?  Mercedes
sells a tool but it is 140.00.


From that other "evil" list:


The easy way is to go to Sears and purchase the two strap
>  wrench set. Straps are made of rubber. Use the largest
>  wrench to hold the fan pulley. Did this in replacing the
>  water pump on my 190E. 
>  
>  Alan Duff

>  Knoxville, TN
>  



just use the serpentine belt and loop it through a pipe.
it will hold the pulley. think of a bigger version of
the strap tool that craftsman is always advertising.

george


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[Zoltan Finks]

Oh, I forgot to include sour cream content:

Does anyone else mix up sour cream and cream cheese, or on a bad day,
whipped cream, when they're trying to think of the right product?

Brian

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> Yes! That seems a very reasonable solution! What gets me is that in my Saab,
> the ignition is down there. Yeah it's nice to be different, but the junk
> that can fall into there... The kicker is that my dealer-installed sunroof
> drips slightly and guess where it drips down into?
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
> 84 Saab 900
> >
> >   Skins like those used to protect keyboards would be a handy item in
> >such a situation. Duct taping saran wrap over them would serve the
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Re: [MBZ] New tumbler is different

[Luther Gulseth]

I used a pipette to squirt (more drip) the oil down the lock shaft via the 
opening for the tumbler.  Follow?

~
~You say squirt the oil "into the column lock". Forgive my ignorance, but
~where exactly are you referring to the oil being squirted?
~
~The column lock is an item located inside the steering column, no? Which
~would mean I must disassemble the column partially to do this lubing? OR are
~you saying that the oil should be squirted into the area that the tumbler
~plugs into?
~
~Thanks!
~Brian
~83 240D
~
~



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Re: [MBZ] 0-60 Target?

[Marshall Booth]

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Howdy -
What should my target time for 0-60mph be - '91 300D 2.5 Turbo?  I'm going 
to benchmark it - tried it today but noticed the AC was on and the road 
wasn't really level either - so I'll try again.  My fingers on the stopwatch 
may not have been quite perfect either.


About 13 sec.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

[Trampas]

I will keep you updated! 

Trampas

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hmmm, let me know how that goes, I have a 380SEL that has bent valves

Trampas wrote:

> I am currently working on making a 300SDL out of a 500SEL and an OM617,
thus
> I was thinking about intercooling and anything else that would make the
car
> actually move. My goal is to have a commuter car which gets 25MPG and can
> get onto I-40 during rush hour. 
> 
> Trampas
> 
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> 
> By themselves, none. But they do allow  you to jack up the fuel
> delivery (relatively) safely, without destroying the motor. Seems most
> stock Bosch pumps can't deliver more than, say, 20-25% power gain over
> stock, without modifying the pump via larger elements. So on an OM603,
> that should take us from 148hp (stock) to something around 170-180hp
> with stock pump, exhaust, and turbo. If you're willing to change the
> intake, exhast, and send the pump to Myna Diesel, the sky is the
> limt... the Finns have dyno charts showing 450hp from a stock
> long-block 603.
> 
> :)
> 
> -dm
> 
> 
>>--
>>Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:36:55 -0500
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>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update
>>
>>
>>What kind of horse power boost does intercooling and/or water injection
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> 
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

[Trampas]

I try not to drive or ride in portable coffins. 

Trampas

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On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Trampas wrote:

> I am currently working on making a 300SDL out of a 500SEL and an  
> OM617, thus
> I was thinking about intercooling and anything else that would make  
> the car
> actually move. My goal is to have a commuter car which gets 25MPG  
> and can
> get onto I-40 during rush hour.
>
> Trampas

Any Hyundai can serve that purpose for a fraction of the price. You

must have ulterior motives.

Johnny B.
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[MBZ] And Now For Something Completely Different...

[Rick Knoble]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1954-Mercedes-Benz-180-Streetrod-w-Nissan-200SX-Turbo_W0QQitemZ4624822122QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Whatever.
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Mark,

Here's a photo of the real tools:

http://www.w124performance.com/images/tools/OM60x_serp_belt_tools.jpg

Cost of the tool via Rusty should be under $100. I recommend buying
the tool if you intend to own OM60x engines for any length of time.
Otherwise, some people say you can slip a small Allen wrench into a
hole in the pulley, and brace it against a rib on the water pump. I've
not done this myself but others claim it works OK... just don't break
the water pump. With the stubby hex socket and spinner tool shown in
the photo above, the fan can be pulled out without removing the
radiator.

:-)

-Dave M.

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> Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine,
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> sells a tool but it is 140.00.
>
>
> Mark Maturo

[MBZ] Cheap Old Parts 'Burb

[Rick Knoble]

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Larry,

Here's a spreadsheet with performance data (from sales brochures and
TDM's) for most all 124's, plus some assorted 123, 126, 140, and 201
data:

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/other/acceleration_specs.xls

Spec for your car is 12.8 seconds.


:-)

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1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline)


> --
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:42:32 -0500
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] 0-60 Target?
>
>
> Howdy -
> What should my target time for 0-60mph be - '91 300D 2.5 Turbo?  I'm going
> to benchmark it - tried it today but noticed the AC was on and the road
> wasn't really level either - so I'll try again.  My fingers on the stopwatch
> may not have been quite perfect either.
>
> TIA!
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)

[MBZ] was I accidently taken off the list?

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Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine,
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sells a tool but it is 140.00.


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Re: [MBZ] Used 126 wheels 86 420 SEL

[Donald Snook]

Johnny B. wrote:

 

"One of my buddies wants 4 15-hole alloys for a 1986 420SEL. He wants  

to mount his Summer tires on them so if anyone has a set in  

presentable condition.. How much $$ shipped to 12814?"

 

 

That is what my car has on it now, and I would like to upgrade to the 8
hole wheels that you can buy on Tire rack.  If I were to get the new
wheels they cost $400.  Got an offer for my wheels.  They look clean and
presentable. I just like the 8 hole wheels better. 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 125K 

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

[andrew strasfogel]

I paid $49 about 10 years ago so that seems reasonable.

On 3/30/06, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> $75.00 for a 3 piece set of Genuine MB wrenches.
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> we used to sell those just about every day.  last i remember they were
> $85
> for the set of 3, but not sure what they cost now
>
> On 3/29/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#diesel
> >
> > About $100 for 2 of the bent wrench and one of the other.
> >
> > Randy B
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:25 PM
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> > Subject: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?
> >
> >
> >
> > So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box ,
> > valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00...
> > Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high...
> >
> >
> > I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so
> > does anyone know of a better deal out there?
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
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Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

[andrew strasfogel]

It looks great, Don.  Call it MMM - My mocha Mercedes.

On 3/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> its worth, 100-200 if its close.
>
> Luther Gulseth wrote:
>
> > The car isn't worth the $500 reserve.RUN AWAY!
> >
> > ~"The car starts up good and runs fine, but the engine gets hot and
> steam
> > ~comes out of the overflow.  I put a head gasket in it (not fun) but it
> > ~didn't fix the problem and now I'm sick of it and ready to take a
> loss."
> > ~
> > ~What do you guys think the issue is? And this is pre-W123, isn't it?
> > ~
> > ~I am just now getting the Loren car finally sorted out and
> fun-to-drive.
> > ~That makes four cars (plus a motorcycle) for three drivers. Debbie has
> told
> > ~me, and I quote: "You will NOT turn into a Kaleb!"
> > ~
> > ~But $500 dollar reserve and not too far away. Aw Geeze, 
> > ~
> >
> >
> >
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[MBZ] testing1

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I'm glad this crap isn't too popular around here. NY State has the
lowest increase in Meth abuse/arrests in the country. In many states
it has reached epidemic proportions.
These ads are not for the weak at heart but seem to drive the point
home. My hat is off to Thomas Seibel for his efforts to stem meth
production, distribution and abuse.

http://www.montanameth.org/ads_television.aspx#

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[Brian Chase]

Yes! That seems a very reasonable solution! What gets me is that in my Saab, 
the ignition is down there. Yeah it's nice to be different, but the junk 
that can fall into there... The kicker is that my dealer-installed sunroof 
drips slightly and guess where it drips down into?


Brian
83 240D
84 Saab 900


Skins like those used to protect keyboards would be a handy item in
such a situation. Duct taping saran wrap over them would serve the
same purpose, especially if wood-grained tape can be had.

Johnny B.
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[MBZ] 0-60 Target?

[l02turner]

Howdy -
What should my target time for 0-60mph be - '91 300D 2.5 Turbo?  I'm going 
to benchmark it - tried it today but noticed the AC was on and the road 
wasn't really level either - so I'll try again.  My fingers on the stopwatch 
may not have been quite perfect either.


TIA!

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Re: [MBZ] New tumbler is different

[Zoltan Finks]

Hey Luther, I was wondering about that. I know I read on the list where
someone lubed it. I think someone said they poured a few drops of ATF down
there. I may follow your recommendation of the Marvel oil though.

Question is:

You say squirt the oil "into the column lock". Forgive my ignorance, but
where exactly are you referring to the oil being squirted?

The column lock is an item located inside the steering column, no? Which
would mean I must disassemble the column partially to do this lubing? OR are
you saying that the oil should be squirted into the area that the tumbler
plugs into?

Thanks!
Brian
83 240D



On 3/30/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Brian, you need to lube the column lock.  I had the exact same issue with
> my CD when I replaced the tumbler.  Squirted a little Marvel Mystery oil
> into the column lock, and it works as new now.
>
> Luther
>
> ~Update on my tumbler saga: After having the dealership try to ship the
> ~correct tumbler replacement to a wrong address, I re-gave them the
> correct
> ~address, and I finally saw it tonight. It looked right this time, I
> popped
> ~it in in 10 seconds, and it is a fit!
> ~
> ~Here's the beauty: It came with a key! The incorrect one they sent me at
> ~first did not come with a key, and as some of you may recall, I was quite
> ~puzzled over that.
> ~
> ~Here's the problem: The problem was NOT the tumbler. I was quickly able
> to
> ~get the column to lock me out after installing the new tumbler.
> Fortunately
> ~my patented "kicking, turning, and twisting" technique got it unsiezed
> ~before too long.
> ~
> ~Oh well, at least I have two new dealer-cut keys now.
> ~
> ~But I still have to jump through a hoop to ensure no lock-outs. This
> ~consists of: When I arrive at my destination, I find the mid-point in the
> ~slop of the wheel and hold it there. Then I - in a split second - turn
> that
> ~key back to the zero position and back to position one, thereby
> satisfying
> ~the requirement that it be completely turned off before allowing starter
> ~engagement again. I then leave it in position one - ready for the next
> start
> ~- and lock the doors. (or if in a bad neighborhood, go ahead and remove
> ~tumbler).
> ~
> ~Brian
> ~83 240D
> ~
>
>
>
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> '82 300CD (159,222 kmi)
> '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Used 126 wheels 86 420 SEL

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

those are EXPENSIVE when you can find them.  I happen to have at least 3 
sets but am saving them for some special occasion.  They usually sell 
for close to $400 a set.


John Berryman wrote:
	One of my buddies wants 4 15-hole alloys for a 1986 420SEL. He wants  
to mount his Summer tires on them so if anyone has a set in  
presentable condition.. How much $$ shipped to 12814?


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD Rear Hatch Available - Pick Up Only

[tom savage]

Rick Knoble wrote:

You are ABSOLUTELY correct. I WORK for UPS and I see this stuff EVERY DAY. 
If you ship auto body parts this way they are more likely to get there 
intact than if you wrap them like china. If you want to be ABSOLUTELY SURE 
that your stuff gets there intact with UPS, insure it for $5000. That will 
put it into the "High Value" category, and it WILL get treated with kid 
gloves.


Me too, Earth City, MO.  You're near Chicago, right?  CACH?

Standard-sized, boxed packages are thrown onto converyor belts which 
ferry them through the hub, where all sorts of bad things can happen in 
the event of a jam.  Upon reaching the loading dock, they may be loaded 
on the top or the bottom of the trailer, where they may or not be 
crushed, depending on luck and packaging quality.  Irreg items (big, 
unboxed, or over 70 lbs) are carried through the hub on a cart where 
they won't be smashed or thrown about.  They're the last thing loaded in 
the trailer and are never stacked, so you really are safer shipping 
unboxed.  This is all academic, though, as a rear hatch is big enough 
that it qualifies as an irreg whether boxed or not.


Tom,
Uses lots of bubble wrap and packing peanuts

[MBZ] Used 126 wheels 86 420 SEL

[John Berryman]

	One of my buddies wants 4 15-hole alloys for a 1986 420SEL. He wants  
to mount his Summer tires on them so if anyone has a set in  
presentable condition.. How much $$ shipped to 12814?


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[Alex Chamberlain]

Red or green lumps!  How Christmasy!  (Johnny is making a joke... but,
really, there IS a difference, just like when yogurt goes bad [although
ironically the fact that it's already "spoiled" in a sense DOES make it last
longer].)

Alex Chamberlain, who has made yogurt from scratch for the fun of it
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

On 3/30/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It'll grow red or green lumps on top.  It'll also smell something bad,
> unlike normal sour cream.
>
> ~
> ~On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> ~
> ~> That's a good name for it.  Although other sticky colloids and
> ~> suspensions
> ~> can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream.  DO NOT ASK how I know!  ;)
> ~>
> ~> Alex Chamberlain
> ~
> ~   How does one know when sour cream has gone bad?
> ~
> ~Johnny B.

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Marshall Booth]

John Berryman wrote:

On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


300SD's are all US cars.


I thought some went to Japan as well.


ALL 116 & 126 300SDs were for north American consumption.

300SDLs went to Japan in 1988 and 350SD/SDLs (I believe) that went to 
Japan as well.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Marshall Booth]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

300SD's are all US cars.


Correct! I had forgotten that!

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Re: [MBZ] archives

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 3/30/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 30, 2006, at 8:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I wonder if there is a way to search *these* emails as before with
> > a "search archive" form ?  If not that would be a very handy
> > enhancement.
> >
> > Dan Elliott
>
> Spotlight in Mac OS X Tiger does this. it would be handier if I
> saved all messages though.
>

So does Gmail.  This list is the only thing I use it for... works great!

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

[MBZ] 603 Fan removal

[Mark . Maturo]

Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine,
to keep it from turning while removing the hex head fan bolt?  Mercedes
sells a tool but it is 140.00.


Mark Maturo




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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Marshall Booth]

Sunil Hari wrote:

What's wrong with the car?  Can it really be a grey-market car if the gauges
are all in English units?


The VIN number is a US VIN number. I expect it was built to US specs for 
European delivery - VERY common thru the mid '80. Many/most gray market 
cars had to have the speedometer and the headlights converted to US 
standards in the early/mid '80s to be legally imported so that doesn't 
help. The car appears to have precisely the equipment that a US car came 
with. My '85 190D 2.0 has US gauges and lights, but it has a EURO VIN 
number (WDB2011221F117302).


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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches

[Marshall Booth]

Dennis Perkins wrote:
My understanding is it's better to have them on the loose side if your 
having problems getting it just right vs. tight.  Is this right?




There is a little additional noise, little consequence in performance 
and none to starting when the valves are a little loose. When even a 
little tight, cold engine starting is compromised or even prevented. 
It's important that valves be checked and adjusted before freezing 
weather if reliable cold starting is to be expected.


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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

[Marshall Booth]

Mitch Haley wrote:

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:

I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s.


And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it
in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just
worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?


The 722 series transmissions wear every time they shift and hardly wear 
at all while in gear running. So to minimize transmission wear, minimize 
shifting. During the 10 years I was driving from Pittsburgh to 
Washington DC and back weekly, I counted the number of shifts that my 
300TD made on the trip and the number of shifts that my 190Ds (with 
automatics) made. The 190D shifted not quite twice as often. Around town 
the number of shifts was much closer to the same.


That corresponds with the average life of the a 722.4 transmission in a 
201 vs a 722.3 transmission in a 123/124/126. In city driving, both 
transmissions give similar life (150-200kmi), but in highway service, 
the average 722.3 transmission will last quite a bit longer (all other 
things being equal). I believe that the BIGGEST factor is engine power. 
The more powerful engines allow the transmission to last longer by 
allowing the engine to propel the car satisfactorily with many fewer shifts!


Marshall


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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

[Marshall Booth]

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:

I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?


I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. 


The B-2 piston shattering was unique to the 722.3 transmissions, but the 
 722.4 B-2 pistons or bands CAN fail and the resulting symptom is 
exactly the same. They don't fail nearly as often because the parts were 
redesigned (just as the revised, replacement 722.3 parts were).


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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Curt Raymond]

Larry,
   
  I mostly agree with you. I've spent the better part of a month slowly 
defunking my '85 190D. Considering the overall neglect I've seen throughout the 
car the grunge doesn't really surprise me. I need to schedule a trip to get 
detailed (courtesy a gift cert from my in-laws). A real steam cleaner would be 
just the ticket for removing the grunge thats pushed into the carpets, I got 
the upper layer of slime off.
   
  As a side note the coffee sachet I mentioned the other day has done its job 
admirably. I'd used some glue inside the car and the smell was hanging around 
bad, since putting in the coffee last week (about 2oz of coffee in a little 
packet I made from a papertowel folded over) its pretty much gone.
   
  That said when I was a teenager I'd spend countless hours cleaning and 
meticulously detailing the inside of my '84 Ford Tempo. The interior of that 
car was sweet. There wasn't any surface rust either but a bunch of places with 
paint that was only vaugely the right color. The floor was rotted to bits 
though. Every year I'd peel back the carpets and fiberglass up the holes. Then 
jack the car up and use sheetmetal screws to attach stovepipe (cheap and 
available) so it'd pass Maine state inspection.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:39:24 -0500
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I am always amazed at people who take photos of their stuff that's for 
sale 
but fail to clean it up - trash on the floor and in the console, etc --  
stuff that would only take a few minutes to do but would make a big 
difference in presentation.  A clean vehicle says (to me at least) that 
they 
made an effort to take care of the car - and keeping it clean is very 
low/no 
cost.

Oh well, perhaps I'm too picky?
;-)

Sincerely,
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Zoltan Finks wrote:
> On the topic of reman. starters: I know that getting one from a McParts is
> frowned upon, but I must admit I got one from AutoJoke with a lifetime
> warranty. The thing that I noticed tonight is that the solenoid has the name
> Bosch stamped on it, and the main starter body has made in Germany, or some
> such on it. So it appears to be a rebuilt original equipment unit.
> 
> I thought that the much sought after Bosch solenoids could only be found at
> the pick & pull.

Most budget rebuilds (no matter what the warranty) have been cleaned, 
painted and BROKEN parts have been replaced - no more than that. If the 
bearings have not failed, they are almost NEVER replaced. If the old 
solenoid operated, it will often NOT be replaced. If you are selling the 
car, it's an inexpensive way to get it going. If you'd like a modicum of 
reliability, DO NOT BUY A BUDGET alternator or starter

[MBZ] eBay photographer of the week....

[Rick Knoble]

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LOL! Good point. There's a "make offer" button, I should try Kleb's
standard $500...

:-)

+dm

> On 3/30/06, Joe Knight wrote:
>
> Po' man's Maybach...?   ;)
>
> j
>
> On 3/30/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In case you need *lots* of rear leg room, and like to get places in a 
> > hurry...
> >
> > 
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dave M.
> > Boise, ID
> > 1994 E500 - 95kmi  (Q-ship)
> > 1987 300D - 263kmi (Sportline)

[MBZ] best way to get pepto out of tranny

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Fixing to swap out the radiator on my 190D and then need to get the 
pepto out of the tranny.  My thinking is I will drain the pan and 
converter, fill back up with fresh fluid, , run it for a little bit. 
Drain pan and repeat until fluid is good.  Then pull pan and change the 
filter.  Anybody got any other ideas?

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Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[Rick Knoble]

How does one know when sour cream has gone bad?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


It has mold growing on it.
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD

'87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

[Rusty Cullens]

$75.00 for a 3 piece set of Genuine MB wrenches.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

we used to sell those just about every day.  last i remember they were
$85
for the set of 3, but not sure what they cost now

On 3/29/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#diesel
>
> About $100 for 2 of the bent wrench and one of the other.
>
> Randy B
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:25 PM
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> Subject: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?
>
>
>
> So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box ,
> valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00...
> Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high...
>
>
> I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so
> does anyone know of a better deal out there?
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - BTU/gal #2

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:16:18 -0500 "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> How many BTU per gal. #2?
> 
> Wilton

From,

http://www.exxon.com/USA-English/GFM/Products_Services/Fuels/Diesel_Fuels_FAQ.asp

The BTU content of No. 2-D diesel fuel is typically about 130,000 BTU/Gal.



Craig

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:29:39 -0500 John Berryman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> 
> > That's a good name for it.  Although other sticky colloids and  
> > suspensions
> > can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream.  DO NOT ASK how I know!  ;)
> >
> > Alex Chamberlain
> 
>   How does one know when sour cream has gone bad?


You open the refrigerator door and see everything else standing there with
their hands up and the sour cream holding a pistol, robbing them at
gunpoint.



Craig

[MBZ] S55 LWB on eBay

[Dave M.]

In case you need *lots* of rear leg room, and like to get places in a hurry...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4625188298

:-)


--
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 95kmi  (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 263kmi (Sportline)

Re: [MBZ] OT - BTU/gal #2

[Chuck Landenberger]

Wilton,

Here's a link that has all this info...  http:// 
housing.cce.cornell.edu/f-sht-pdf%20libraries/EE-F-SHTS/comparing% 
20heat%20fuels.pdf


If I read correctly ... It's 140,000/gallon.

HTH,

Chuck
On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:16 AM, wilton strickland wrote:


How many BTU per gal. #2?

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

here is his response when I pointed out his car is not a euro car:


> lol.let me get the invoice on the purchase for you which will show
> you that is was built and shipped over here from Germany. The car has
> only had one other owner other then my parents and I doubt that, that
> old couple went through the trouble of finding and upgrading the stupid
> headlights. thx anyways though :)
> -Taylor

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


no, I dont think so, I could be wrong but Im pretty sure Im right.

John Berryman wrote:



On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:




300SD's are all US cars.



I thought some went to Japan as well.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[Luther Gulseth]

It'll grow red or green lumps on top.  It'll also smell something bad, unlike 
normal sour cream.

~
~On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
~
~> That's a good name for it.  Although other sticky colloids and  
~> suspensions
~> can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream.  DO NOT ASK how I know!  ;)
~>
~> Alex Chamberlain
~
~   How does one know when sour cream has gone bad?
~
~Johnny B.
~I Mac Therefore I am
~



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'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) 
'82 300CD (159,222 kmi) 
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

[MBZ] OT - BTU/gal #2

[wilton strickland]

How many BTU per gal. #2?

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

its worth, 100-200 if its close.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


The car isn't worth the $500 reserve.RUN AWAY!

~"The car starts up good and runs fine, but the engine gets hot and steam
~comes out of the overflow.  I put a head gasket in it (not fun) but it
~didn't fix the problem and now I'm sick of it and ready to take a loss."
~
~What do you guys think the issue is? And this is pre-W123, isn't it?
~
~I am just now getting the Loren car finally sorted out and fun-to-drive.
~That makes four cars (plus a motorcycle) for three drivers. Debbie has told
~me, and I quote: "You will NOT turn into a Kaleb!"
~
~But $500 dollar reserve and not too far away. Aw Geeze, 
~





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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

ok, I though I missed something, nevermind.

LT Don wrote:


Benz 240D, Buick Regal, Pontiac Sunbird, VW Quantum diesel.

On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If he replaced the head gasket and it still gets hot, the problem had to
be elsewhere.  The heads/gaskets are just not a problem on those cars.
What freaking cars do you have anyways?







--
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-- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_

1977 240D
1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

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http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] archives

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

sure is, if you go to the list page and go to the archives, you can 
download the entire archive archive for a month and then search away 
with your text reader program.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I wonder if there is a way to search *these* emails as before with a "search 
archive" form ?  If not that would be a very handy enhancement.
 
Dan Elliott

82 300D-T 93kmi

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 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] New tumbler is different

[Luther Gulseth]

Brian, you need to lube the column lock.  I had the exact same issue with my CD 
when I replaced the tumbler.  Squirted a little Marvel Mystery oil into the 
column lock, and it works as new now.  

Luther

~Update on my tumbler saga: After having the dealership try to ship the
~correct tumbler replacement to a wrong address, I re-gave them the correct
~address, and I finally saw it tonight. It looked right this time, I popped
~it in in 10 seconds, and it is a fit!
~
~Here's the beauty: It came with a key! The incorrect one they sent me at
~first did not come with a key, and as some of you may recall, I was quite
~puzzled over that.
~
~Here's the problem: The problem was NOT the tumbler. I was quickly able to
~get the column to lock me out after installing the new tumbler. Fortunately
~my patented "kicking, turning, and twisting" technique got it unsiezed
~before too long.
~
~Oh well, at least I have two new dealer-cut keys now.
~
~But I still have to jump through a hoop to ensure no lock-outs. This
~consists of: When I arrive at my destination, I find the mid-point in the
~slop of the wheel and hold it there. Then I - in a split second - turn that
~key back to the zero position and back to position one, thereby satisfying
~the requirement that it be completely turned off before allowing starter
~engagement again. I then leave it in position one - ready for the next start
~- and lock the doors. (or if in a bad neighborhood, go ahead and remove
~tumbler).
~
~Brian
~83 240D
~



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'82 300CD (159,222 kmi) 
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

hmmm, let me know how that goes, I have a 380SEL that has bent valves

Trampas wrote:


I am currently working on making a 300SDL out of a 500SEL and an OM617, thus
I was thinking about intercooling and anything else that would make the car
actually move. My goal is to have a commuter car which gets 25MPG and can
get onto I-40 during rush hour. 


Trampas

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

By themselves, none. But they do allow  you to jack up the fuel
delivery (relatively) safely, without destroying the motor. Seems most
stock Bosch pumps can't deliver more than, say, 20-25% power gain over
stock, without modifying the pump via larger elements. So on an OM603,
that should take us from 148hp (stock) to something around 170-180hp
with stock pump, exhaust, and turbo. If you're willing to change the
intake, exhast, and send the pump to Myna Diesel, the sky is the
limt... the Finns have dyno charts showing 450hp from a stock
long-block 603.

:)

-dm



--
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:36:55 -0500
From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update


What kind of horse power boost does intercooling and/or water injection


add?



Trampas



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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no, I dont think so, I could be wrong but Im pretty sure Im right.

John Berryman wrote:


On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



300SD's are all US cars.



I thought some went to Japan as well.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

such as?

John Ervine wrote:


Jim Cathey wrote:



It could well have been a European-delivery US model.  Didn't
DBAG offer that around then?



Yup.  Mat Cama has a European-delivery '77 (?) 300D in his possession.  All 
records since new, including transport documents.  Lots of neat stuff about that 
car that you don't see on later w123s.




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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Thats the funniest thing i have heard in a while.

B Dike wrote:


The bent wrenches are totally unnecessary.  Valve adjustments are  easy to do 
with standard open end wrenches, just use a good light so  you can see exactly 
where to place them.  The only thing you might  consider is file or grind one 
down to make it a tad thinner to grab the  lower nut.
  
  Bruce




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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

it could have been euro delivery, but that doesnt make it a euro car.

Jim Cathey wrote:


I just sent him a message letting him know that his car is not grey
market and that the 300SD was a US only model.



It could well have been a European-delivery US model.  Didn't
DBAG offer that around then?

-- Jim


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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

[Luther Gulseth]

The car isn't worth the $500 reserve.RUN AWAY!

~"The car starts up good and runs fine, but the engine gets hot and steam
~comes out of the overflow.  I put a head gasket in it (not fun) but it
~didn't fix the problem and now I'm sick of it and ready to take a loss."
~
~What do you guys think the issue is? And this is pre-W123, isn't it?
~
~I am just now getting the Loren car finally sorted out and fun-to-drive.
~That makes four cars (plus a motorcycle) for three drivers. Debbie has told
~me, and I quote: "You will NOT turn into a Kaleb!"
~
~But $500 dollar reserve and not too far away. Aw Geeze, 
~



-- 
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Alma, Ark 
'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) 
'82 300CD (159,222 kmi) 
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Sunil Hari]

Haha Jim, you called the company "DBAG".  Say it aloud, as "d-bag'.

I'm three years old.

On 3/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am always amazed at people who take photos of their stuff that's for
> sale
> but fail to clean it up - trash on the floor and in the console, etc --
> stuff that would only take a few minutes to do but would make a big
> difference in presentation.  A clean vehicle says (to me at least) that
> they
> made an effort to take care of the car - and keeping it clean is very
> low/no
> cost.
>
> Oh well, perhaps I'm too picky?
> ;-)
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
> A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
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> - Original Message -
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> Subject: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot
>
>
> > Im not sure if I have the heart to tell him
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-300sd-DIESEL-mercedes-benz-Grey-Market-Vehicle_W0QQitemZ4626938368QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > --
> > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >  90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
> >  84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
> > http://www.striplin.net
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Re: [MBZ] archives

[John Berryman]

On Mar 30, 2006, at 8:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I wonder if there is a way to search *these* emails as before with  
a "search archive" form ?  If not that would be a very handy  
enhancement.


Dan Elliott


	Spotlight in Mac OS X Tiger does this. it would be handier if I  
saved all messages though.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

[John Berryman]

On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


 Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?


	We have a 2.5 NA. I did look it over thinking all the goodies would  
be there to convert ours or another, possibly throwing a 5spd into  
the mix. This particular car is really clapped out and ~ 600 miles  
away. I'm going to finish present projects, then look for something  
fun like that.
	In this way I would not stress-out my excellent Wife. She  
will,however want me to get into a fun project that she can also  
enjoy. She has recently suggested we overhaul my old Harley FLH  
together and do a little touring in the future. I am a lucky man to  
have her in my life. In my wildest dreams I never thought it could be  
this good.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

[LT Don]

Benz 240D, Buick Regal, Pontiac Sunbird, VW Quantum diesel.

On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If he replaced the head gasket and it still gets hot, the problem had to
> be elsewhere.  The heads/gaskets are just not a problem on those cars.
> What freaking cars do you have anyways?
>
>
>


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1977 240D
1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[l02turner]

I am always amazed at people who take photos of their stuff that's for sale 
but fail to clean it up - trash on the floor and in the console, etc --  
stuff that would only take a few minutes to do but would make a big 
difference in presentation.  A clean vehicle says (to me at least) that they 
made an effort to take care of the car - and keeping it clean is very low/no 
cost.


Oh well, perhaps I'm too picky?
;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Subject: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot



Im not sure if I have the heart to tell him

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[MBZ] archives

[dieselbenz24]

I wonder if there is a way to search *these* emails as before with a "search 
archive" form ?  If not that would be a very handy enhancement.
 
Dan Elliott
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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

[Potter, Tom E]

A few days ago, some chap on the list offered his for $40.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:25 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?


So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box ,
valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00...
Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high...


I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so
does anyone know of a better deal out there?


Thanks in advance!




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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

[Mitch Haley]

Kevin wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:
> > I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?
> 
> I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
> immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s.

And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it
in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just
worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?

Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

[Mitch Haley]

Trampas wrote:
> 
> I am currently working on making a 300SDL out of a 500SEL and an OM617, thus
> I was thinking about intercooling and anything else that would make the car
> actually move. My goal is to have a commuter car which gets 25MPG and can
> get onto I-40 during rush hour.

There's a fellow on mercedesshop, I believe the name is Brent, who made an
air/water IC for his 617. This allowed the IC to be conveniently situated
near the turbo and intake manifold. Very good for brief bursts of power, 
an IC full of cool water takes a few seconds to warm up.

Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

[John Berryman]

On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Trampas wrote:

I am currently working on making a 300SDL out of a 500SEL and an  
OM617, thus
I was thinking about intercooling and anything else that would make  
the car
actually move. My goal is to have a commuter car which gets 25MPG  
and can

get onto I-40 during rush hour.

Trampas


	Any Hyundai can serve that purpose for a fraction of the price. You  
must have ulterior motives.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

[John Berryman]

On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:14 AM, Levi Smith wrote:


Is the idea that being bent they'll clear the injector lines and
therefore allow more movement?

Levi


	Yes, clearance is the reason they are shaped like that. I use the  
Hazet set, made specifically for the purpose. They cost somewhere in  
the $50+ range when I bought them many, many moons ago. They paid for  
themselves with their first use and made me $$ with subsequent valve  
adjustments.
	Properly made wrenches can keep you from rounding the adjusters and  
locks. I feel they are worth the price, even with today's inflation  
figured in. YMMV


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

[Trampas]

I am currently working on making a 300SDL out of a 500SEL and an OM617, thus
I was thinking about intercooling and anything else that would make the car
actually move. My goal is to have a commuter car which gets 25MPG and can
get onto I-40 during rush hour. 

Trampas

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Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

By themselves, none. But they do allow  you to jack up the fuel
delivery (relatively) safely, without destroying the motor. Seems most
stock Bosch pumps can't deliver more than, say, 20-25% power gain over
stock, without modifying the pump via larger elements. So on an OM603,
that should take us from 148hp (stock) to something around 170-180hp
with stock pump, exhaust, and turbo. If you're willing to change the
intake, exhast, and send the pump to Myna Diesel, the sky is the
limt... the Finns have dyno charts showing 450hp from a stock
long-block 603.

:)

-dm

> --
> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:36:55 -0500
> From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update
>
>
> What kind of horse power boost does intercooling and/or water injection
add?
>
>
> Trampas

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Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[John Berryman]

On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

That's a good name for it.  Although other sticky colloids and  
suspensions

can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream.  DO NOT ASK how I know!  ;)

Alex Chamberlain


How does one know when sour cream has gone bad?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[John Berryman]

On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:19 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


The thing about the Pepsi syndrome vs switches in horizontal
locations is that the goo has no place to go once it gets in
there.  That's why I usually just take 'em out and clean them
out thoroughly.

-- Jim


	Skins like those used to protect keyboards would be a handy item in  
such a situation. Duct taping saran wrap over them would serve the  
same purpose, especially if wood-grained tape can be had.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[John Berryman]

On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:01 AM, John Ervine wrote:

You thunk right.  The 350SD and both longbody variants, however,  
were North

American market only.


	They drive on the correct side of the road over there just like our  
Limey friends don't they?


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

[Levi Smith]

Is the idea that being bent they'll clear the injector lines and 
therefore allow more movement?


Levi

B Dike wrote:

The bent wrenches are totally unnecessary.  Valve adjustments are  easy to do 
with standard open end wrenches, just use a good light so  you can see exactly 
where to place them.  The only thing you might  consider is file or grind one 
down to make it a tad thinner to grab the  lower nut.
  
  Bruce

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[John M McIntosh]

I dug around a bit and discovered that usually most foreign cars  
imported into Japan were left hand drive, versus
the proper right hand drive because of the prestige, which now makes  
sense why the dealer asked if the car was from Japan.


On 29-Mar-06, at 11:32 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Japan and Hong Kong drive on the wrong side (sorry, Hendrik),  
pretty much the rest of Asia on the right.


Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper


John
1983 300TDt  362k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  164k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 3/29/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The thing about the Pepsi syndrome vs switches in horizontal
> locations is that the goo has no place to go once it gets in
> there.
>

That's a good name for it.  Although other sticky colloids and suspensions
can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream.  DO NOT ASK how I know!  ;)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Alex Chamberlain]

Japan and Hong Kong drive on the wrong side (sorry, Hendrik), pretty much
the rest of Asia on the right.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

On 3/29/06, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I guess that is why the dealer asked me today "was your 90's wagon a
> euro or Japanese model?"
> but don't they drive on the left side of the road? Then again we do
> see various benz around here imported from Asia,
> and those do have the steering wheel on the left.
>
>
> On 29-Mar-06, at 10:34 PM, John Berryman wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >
> >> 300SD's are all US cars.
> >
> >   I thought some went to Japan as well.
> >
> > Johnny B.
> > I Mac Therefore I am
>
> John
> 1983 300TDt  362k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
> 1990 300TDt  164k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
> 1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[Jim Cathey]

Interesting note on the hazards: When I switch them on, only the right 
side
blinks (F and R). The way to get all four going at once is to switch 
the

hazards on, then turn the L side turn signals on.


You need to open that puppy up and clean it out, or replace it.
It's still acting up.  Or soak it in some more contact cleaner
and operate the snot out of it.

The thing about the Pepsi syndrome vs switches in horizontal
locations is that the goo has no place to go once it gets in
there.  That's why I usually just take 'em out and clean them
out thoroughly.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[John M McIntosh]

I guess that is why the dealer asked me today "was your 90's wagon a  
euro or Japanese model?"
but don't they drive on the left side of the road? Then again we do  
see various benz around here imported from Asia,

and those do have the steering wheel on the left.


On 29-Mar-06, at 10:34 PM, John Berryman wrote:



On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


300SD's are all US cars.


I thought some went to Japan as well.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


John
1983 300TDt  362k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  164k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[John Ervine]

John Berryman wrote:


I thought some went to Japan as well.


You thunk right.  The 350SD and both longbody variants, however, were North 
American market only.


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1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi
1980 300TD 175+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi
1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi

Re: [MBZ] Solenoid Loose

[Zoltan Finks]

Let me rephrase that. I know Bosch starters can be had (like from Rusty,
right?), the thing that threw me is that I got a Bosch solenoid from
AutoJoke.

Brian
83 240D


On 3/30/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  On the topic of reman. starters: I know that getting one from a McParts
> is frowned upon, but I must admit I got one from AutoJoke with a lifetime
> warranty. The thing that I noticed tonight is that the solenoid has the name
> Bosch stamped on it, and the main starter body has made in Germany, or some
> such on it. So it appears to be a rebuilt original equipment unit.
>
> I thought that the much sought after Bosch solenoids could only be found
> at the pick & pull.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
>
>  On 3/28/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Thanks! Good info! I know that on my '68 Dodge, I can start the engine
> > from the firewall by arcing two terminals on a box on the driver side
> > firewall. This must be the same as what you're describing, only it sounds
> > like on the Mercedes, I'd have to do it at the starter itself.
> >
> > I'd also have to make sure I get the correct two terminals, as it sounds
> > like you've described a third. If I get the wrong two terminals, the starter
> > motor will spin, but the gear will not engage the flywheel, if I'm
> > understanding correctly.
> >
> > And if I get the correct two terminals, using the screwdriver, the
> > starter motor will spin and the gear will engage, and I'd better have
> > remembered to have 'er in neutral. I can get under the hood and check all
> > this out, but I'm just trying to visualize as I sit here on email instead of
> > doing my work.
> >
> > Brian
> > 83 240D
> >
> >
> >  On 3/27/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > The solenoid is a switch.  The top stud has a cable connected to the
> > > battery.  The bottom terminal has a strap that goes to the wiring
> > > inside
> > > the starter.  That is why, when your solenoid fails, you can jump the
> > > starter, with a big screwdriver, or equivalent, and cause the starter
> > > to
> > > run. (but not engage) (Useful in diagnosis)  The small terminal in the
> > >
> > > middle is one side of the switching (control) circuit.  The other side
> > > of
> > > the switching circuit is the ground through the starter itself, to the
> > > engine, to the body and the negative terminal.
> > >
> > > If you suspect a problem with the starter control circuit, you can
> > > jump
> > > from the top terminal to the small terminal and if the starter and
> > > solenoid
> > > work  correctly, the starter should engage.  (another reason why your
> > > ol
> > > dissel can get you home when others are F.O.R.D.)
> > >
> > > If the nut on the bottom is loose, the current to the starter is
> > > probably
> > > arcing, and may not make contact, or may not conduct enough juice to
> > > start,
> > > and will likely cause overheating at the terminal.
> > >
> > > At 12:06 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote:
> > > >Thanks Loren. I'll certainly try to tighten it up. By the way, what's
> > > that
> > > >second terminal, (stud) for anyway? Mine doesn't have any wire going
> > > to it.
> > > >
> > > >Brian
> > > >83 240D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 3/26/06, Loren Faeth < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > BINGO!  that'd do it!   If the stud on the solenoid is tight, and
> > > only the
> > > > > nut is loose, tighten it and see what happens.  It might be a
> > > cheap
> > > > > fix.  If the stud is loose in the solenoid, you need at least a
> > > new
> > > > > solenoid, and the Bosch ones are not cheap.  I've been known to
> > > buy a used
> > > > > starter just to get a used Bosch solenoid.  The brand X solenoids
> > > I have
> > > > > tried never last long.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 11:41 PM 3/26/2006, you wrote:
> > > > > >When I went to change out my starter yesterday, I noticed that
> > > the
> > > > > solenoid
> > > > > >(or at least the assembly onto which the wires connect, and where
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > >that second terminal, or nut) is loose. It rattles around between
> > > your
> > > > > >fingers. Obviously this is a problem. Question is: Could
> > > tightening it
> > > > > back
> > > > > >up (if that's even possible) solve the intermittent starting
> > > problem,
> > > > > thus
> > > > > >allowing me to return the starter I bought? This weekend as I
> > > drove the
> > > > > 240
> > > > > >to a wedding, etc. it always started - did not do what it did
> > > before
> > > > > which
> > > > > >was absolutely nothing. But I heard a minor but noticeable
> > > "clack" just
> > > > > >before the starter jumped to life. Incidentally, I did not change
> > > the
> > > > > >starter out - mainly because the largest Allen key I have is
> > > 10mm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Brian
> > > > > >83 240D
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[John Berryman]

On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


300SD's are all US cars.


I thought some went to Japan as well.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[John Berryman]

On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:20 PM, Sunil Hari wrote:

What's wrong with the car?  Can it really be a grey-market car if  
the gauges

are all in English units?


	Sure, grey market cars need to be federalized and speedo is one of  
many items that get changed. There are exemptions for age and such, I  
don't know much more than that about it.

My 190D Euro is a grey market car.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:37:23 -0800 "Dennis Perkins"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My understanding is it's better to have them on the loose side if your 
> having problems getting it just right vs. tight.  Is this right?

Yes.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] 240D console

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:46:32 -0600 "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> > The consoles in the U-Pull are almost always ruined before
> > I ever see them.  People tend to pry out what they want
> > with crowbars there.
> >
> > -- Jim
> Don't get Clay started on P-N-P's and parts removal with
> crowbars/hammers... Or the minorities that use them
> Rick Knoble

OK.

[MBZ] The Single Most Useful Tool

[B Dike]

in my toolbox is the Petzl Zipka Plus LED headlamp. It has a  retractable 
microcord headband so it can be put on or taken off the  head instantly while 
working and used either as headlamp or hand  light.  No clumsy floppy 
headstraps. Very small, carries in the  pocket.  Extremely bright, smart power 
management logic.  Was  birthday gift from wife (how do they know these 
things??)
  
  Order it from REI:   
http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=4008000&productId=47667894&parent_category_rn=4500596
  
  
  

Bruce
82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen'
73 220D 'It'

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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:40:37 -0600 "Zoltan Finks"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> AAAaackk! That's a fear of mine. My late Dobie was reliable (could leave
> a fresh biscuit on the dash and leave him in the car for hours (at night
> - temperate weather) and it would be untouched when I'd come back. But I
> have a maniac of a 1 year old now. Whole new ball game. Sorry to hear
> about your console!

Thanks. We're going to assemble a Skykennel on the back seat and put her
in it when we need to leave her. She's a 7 month-old female German
Shepherd, so it will be several months of that, I guess.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Solenoid Loose

[Zoltan Finks]

On the topic of reman. starters: I know that getting one from a McParts is
frowned upon, but I must admit I got one from AutoJoke with a lifetime
warranty. The thing that I noticed tonight is that the solenoid has the name
Bosch stamped on it, and the main starter body has made in Germany, or some
such on it. So it appears to be a rebuilt original equipment unit.

I thought that the much sought after Bosch solenoids could only be found at
the pick & pull.

Brian
83 240D

On 3/28/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Thanks! Good info! I know that on my '68 Dodge, I can start the engine
> from the firewall by arcing two terminals on a box on the driver side
> firewall. This must be the same as what you're describing, only it sounds
> like on the Mercedes, I'd have to do it at the starter itself.
>
> I'd also have to make sure I get the correct two terminals, as it sounds
> like you've described a third. If I get the wrong two terminals, the starter
> motor will spin, but the gear will not engage the flywheel, if I'm
> understanding correctly.
>
> And if I get the correct two terminals, using the screwdriver, the starter
> motor will spin and the gear will engage, and I'd better have remembered to
> have 'er in neutral. I can get under the hood and check all this out, but
> I'm just trying to visualize as I sit here on email instead of doing my
> work.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
>
>
>  On 3/27/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The solenoid is a switch.  The top stud has a cable connected to the
> > battery.  The bottom terminal has a strap that goes to the wiring inside
> >
> > the starter.  That is why, when your solenoid fails, you can jump the
> > starter, with a big screwdriver, or equivalent, and cause the starter to
> > run. (but not engage) (Useful in diagnosis)  The small terminal in the
> > middle is one side of the switching (control) circuit.  The other side
> > of
> > the switching circuit is the ground through the starter itself, to the
> > engine, to the body and the negative terminal.
> >
> > If you suspect a problem with the starter control circuit, you can jump
> > from the top terminal to the small terminal and if the starter and
> > solenoid
> > work  correctly, the starter should engage.  (another reason why your ol
> > dissel can get you home when others are F.O.R.D.)
> >
> > If the nut on the bottom is loose, the current to the starter is
> > probably
> > arcing, and may not make contact, or may not conduct enough juice to
> > start,
> > and will likely cause overheating at the terminal.
> >
> > At 12:06 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote:
> > >Thanks Loren. I'll certainly try to tighten it up. By the way, what's
> > that
> > >second terminal, (stud) for anyway? Mine doesn't have any wire going to
> > it.
> > >
> > >Brian
> > >83 240D
> > >
> > >
> > >On 3/26/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > BINGO!  that'd do it!   If the stud on the solenoid is tight, and
> > only the
> > > > nut is loose, tighten it and see what happens.  It might be a cheap
> > > > fix.  If the stud is loose in the solenoid, you need at least a new
> > > > solenoid, and the Bosch ones are not cheap.  I've been known to buy
> > a used
> > > > starter just to get a used Bosch solenoid.  The brand X solenoids I
> > have
> > > > tried never last long.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 11:41 PM 3/26/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >When I went to change out my starter yesterday, I noticed that the
> > > > solenoid
> > > > >(or at least the assembly onto which the wires connect, and where
> > there
> > > > is
> > > > >that second terminal, or nut) is loose. It rattles around between
> > your
> > > > >fingers. Obviously this is a problem. Question is: Could tightening
> > it
> > > > back
> > > > >up (if that's even possible) solve the intermittent starting
> > problem,
> > > > thus
> > > > >allowing me to return the starter I bought? This weekend as I drove
> > the
> > > > 240
> > > > >to a wedding, etc. it always started - did not do what it did
> > before
> > > > which
> > > > >was absolutely nothing. But I heard a minor but noticeable "clack"
> > just
> > > > >before the starter jumped to life. Incidentally, I did not change
> > the
> > > > >starter out - mainly because the largest Allen key I have is 10mm.
> > > > >
> > > > >Brian
> > > > >83 240D
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[John Ervine]

Jim Cathey wrote:


It could well have been a European-delivery US model.  Didn't
DBAG offer that around then?


Yup.  Mat Cama has a European-delivery '77 (?) 300D in his possession.  All 
records since new, including transport documents.  Lots of neat stuff about that 
car that you don't see on later w123s.


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John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi
1980 300TD 175+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi
1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi

Re: [MBZ] New tumbler is different

[Zoltan Finks]

Update on my tumbler saga: After having the dealership try to ship the
correct tumbler replacement to a wrong address, I re-gave them the correct
address, and I finally saw it tonight. It looked right this time, I popped
it in in 10 seconds, and it is a fit!

Here's the beauty: It came with a key! The incorrect one they sent me at
first did not come with a key, and as some of you may recall, I was quite
puzzled over that.

Here's the problem: The problem was NOT the tumbler. I was quickly able to
get the column to lock me out after installing the new tumbler. Fortunately
my patented "kicking, turning, and twisting" technique got it unsiezed
before too long.

Oh well, at least I have two new dealer-cut keys now.

But I still have to jump through a hoop to ensure no lock-outs. This
consists of: When I arrive at my destination, I find the mid-point in the
slop of the wheel and hold it there. Then I - in a split second - turn that
key back to the zero position and back to position one, thereby satisfying
the requirement that it be completely turned off before allowing starter
engagement again. I then leave it in position one - ready for the next start
- and lock the doors. (or if in a bad neighborhood, go ahead and remove
tumbler).

Brian
83 240D

On 3/13/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Well hot diggity. I just had an unexpectedly successful phone call with
> Maplewood Mercedes in St. Paul. I told him my mystery about the supposed
> ignition tumbler that they sold me being different in a few ways and most
> notably not having the pin hole provision for removal at all.
>
> At first he said I had the right one, then he (thankfully) said oh, it
> looks like you have the wrong one (he said I got sent the older style?). And
> to my surprise he was all over taking care of things and said I'd have to
> pay nothing and the correct one will be shipped to me within a day or two
> (which I don't really understand - If it's keyed to my VIN, how can it be so
> fast?)
>
> At any rate, we'll see what they come up with this time.
>
> I know you all can rest a little easier now.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
>
>  On 3/12/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  Hmm, list: That doesn't make sense. A new ignition tumbler without the
> > pinhole required to remove it. Could they be designing them to be
> > "permanent" now? Thinking that the car would not outlast the new tumber?
> > Naaah. It's a Mercedes - they make mileage badges for these things.
> >
> > Can't wait for folks to get to work tomorrow so they can peruse the
> > posts from today. I know the answers lie within one of ya.
> >
> > Brian
> > 83 240D
> >
> >  On 3/12/06, Woodlandtaylors < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes it had the little hole.
> >
> > Dennis T
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
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> > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:04 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] New tumbler is different
> >
> > Thanks. I guess the most important question I could ask you is: Did the
> > new
> > tumbler have the little bitty hole where a pin can be inserted in order
> > to
> > allow depression of the part that retracts to allow
> > removal/installation?
> > Yes I know once the key is turned to the correct position (and the
> > tumbler
> > is not installed yet) it can be depressed by hand, but once installed,
> > there
> > needs to be a way to make it depress so that the tumbler can be pulled
> > out.
> > That is what the hole for the pin is for. Does the one you installed
> > have
> > it? Thanks.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

[Zoltan Finks]

Very pleasant news this evening! The signals started working great! It
didn't take many flicks of the hazard switch to affect a change. What a
great feeling to have them working again for no money and no work! (my kind
of repair). Thanks for the reminder that operating the hazard switch can
affect it.

Interesting note on the hazards: When I switch them on, only the right side
blinks (F and R). The way to get all four going at once is to switch the
hazards on, then turn the L side turn signals on.

Brian
83 240D

On 3/28/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'll try turning the dimmer and hoping. Is removing it a bear?
>
> Two screws, once you have the cluster out.  And that's not
> usually too hard either.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

[B Dike]

The bent wrenches are totally unnecessary.  Valve adjustments are  easy to do 
with standard open end wrenches, just use a good light so  you can see exactly 
where to place them.  The only thing you might  consider is file or grind one 
down to make it a tad thinner to grab the  lower nut.
  
  Bruce

hue wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box ,
valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00...
Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high...


I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so
does anyone know of a better deal out there?


Thanks in advance!




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> The consoles in the U-Pull are almost always ruined before
> I ever see them.  People tend to pry out what they want
> with crowbars there.
>
> -- Jim
Don't get Clay started on P-N-P's and parts removal with crowbars/hammers...
Or the minorities that use them
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'87 190 DT 

Re: [MBZ] 240D console

[Zoltan Finks]

AAAaackk! That's a fear of mine. My late Dobie was reliable (could leave a
fresh biscuit on the dash and leave him in the car for hours (at night -
temperate weather) and it would be untouched when I'd come back. But I have
a maniac of a 1 year old now. Whole new ball game. Sorry to hear about your
console!

Brian
83 240D


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> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:53:06 -0800 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Anyone know where I can get one? (And don't say the local salvage
> > > yard, because there isn't any.)
> >
> > The consoles in the U-Pull are almost always ruined before
> > I ever see them.  People tend to pry out what they want
> > with crowbars there.
>
> That's not encouraging.
>
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Re: [MBZ] /8

[Dimitri Seretakis]

  The Chev is now a valuable collector car. The 
/8s ain't.

  Don't know about that.  According to Mercedes Classic Magazine (? issue 2 yrs 
ago), the /8 is achieving collector status, at least in Germany.  The car was a 
mundane model and therefore accessible to middle class folk.  The car is 
therefore dear in the the hearts of many 30 year olds like myself who grew up 
with these cars.
   
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My understanding is it's better to have them on the loose side if your 
having problems getting it just right vs. tight.  Is this right?

Dennis Perkins
84 300SD

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I never used the "official " wrenches.  I have never even seen them, other
than in pictures.  I have always used just plain open end (combination)
14mm wrenches.  You need one that is thin.  Lately I have been using a
cheap combination wrench that has been ground to make the jaws thinner, for
the bottom nut.  I have never needed a big wrench.  YOu need to watch the
spring cap (where the big wrench goes) to be sure you compensate if it
turns.  Most of the time, if the valve is closed as it must be to adjust,
the valve cap will not turn.  There is an art to knowing where to set the
top nut so when you tighten it and the lock nut together, the gap is
right.  Don't expect to get it right the first time.  You may have to do
some valves many times before you gat that particular one right.  when you
think you have them all right,  turn the crank over and check each pair
again as they come up.  (You will notice that 2 cam lobes will be pointing
more or less up at  the same time, one intake and one exhaust)  When you
can do this repeatedly and get the same reading, then you are ok.

I used to have an old S wrench that was 1/2 x 9/16 open end.  If worked
perfectly to fit around the cam towers and injectors to hold the lock
nut.  The ground down cheapo 14 mm is its replacement.

You also need to get the feel of how to use feeler gauges.  it is right
when the proper thickness gauge can slide in the gap, but there is a
noticeable resistance.  If you have to force it in, you are too tight.  If
it has no resistance, the valve is too loose.  There are also go-no-go
feeler gauges.  These have two thicknesses on each blade.  My set was from
Snears.  The thick part was .002 inch thicker than the thin part.  I will
often work with two blades out, one at the setting I want, and the other
.001" thicker.  I want the first to go and the second not to go in.  It
isn't necessary, but it is a way to check your work as you go.  I believe
in being verdamt sure the valves are right before i put the cover back
on.  I have never burned a valve from misadjustment in 30+ years.

Tch??!

Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

[Dave M.]

By themselves, none. But they do allow  you to jack up the fuel
delivery (relatively) safely, without destroying the motor. Seems most
stock Bosch pumps can't deliver more than, say, 20-25% power gain over
stock, without modifying the pump via larger elements. So on an OM603,
that should take us from 148hp (stock) to something around 170-180hp
with stock pump, exhaust, and turbo. If you're willing to change the
intake, exhast, and send the pump to Myna Diesel, the sky is the
limt... the Finns have dyno charts showing 450hp from a stock
long-block 603.

:)

-dm

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> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:36:55 -0500
> From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update
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>
> What kind of horse power boost does intercooling and/or water injection add?
>
>
> Trampas

Re: [MBZ] 240D console

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:53:06 -0800 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Anyone know where I can get one? (And don't say the local salvage
> > yard, because there isn't any.)
> 
> The consoles in the U-Pull are almost always ruined before
> I ever see them.  People tend to pry out what they want
> with crowbars there.

That's not encouraging.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

[Jim Cathey]

I just sent him a message letting him know that his car is not grey
market and that the 300SD was a US only model.


It could well have been a European-delivery US model.  Didn't
DBAG offer that around then?

-- Jim